Re: v6 subnet size for DSL & leased line customers

2008-01-02 Thread Simon Lyall
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008, Deepak Jain wrote: > Is there anything inherently harmful with suggesting that filtering at > RIR boundaries should be expected, but those that accept somewhat more > lenient boundaries are nice guys??? When the nice guys run out of > resources, they can filter at RIR boundarie

Re: DreamHost Contact?

2008-01-02 Thread Patrick Giagnocavo
On Dec 31, 2007, at 10:18 AM, Leigh Porter wrote: Isn't this what you folks call "freedom of speech" ? -- Leigh FOS applies to actions by the government, not to actions taken between two private parties. E.g. DreamHost could easily ban any and all websites about oranges and apples f

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL & leased line customers

2008-01-02 Thread Brian Dickson
>> As to "there must be better knobs" I think it may be a little late for that; by design (or as a consequence of it) the set of IPv6 knobs is the same as the set of IPv4 knobs. > The trouble is that BGP doesn't have a meaningful inter-AS metric. (Although there is something that is called tha

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL & leased line customers

2008-01-02 Thread Scott Weeks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- From: "Christopher Morrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I think this goes back to my point about DHCP, today there is a business practice and set of business requirements that work for a host of reasons. Expecting that in v6 these requirements will evaporate

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL & leased line customers

2008-01-02 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Jan 2, 2008 1:05 PM, Joe Abley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 2-Jan-2008, at 10:21, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: > > > On 2 jan 2008, at 6:42, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > > >> out of curiousity how is this sort of thing supposed to be done in > >> v6? > >> (traffic engineering given the '1

IPv6 tracking assignments (OSS recommendations)

2008-01-02 Thread Deepak Jain
Anyone have any experience with software that will track both IPv4 and IPv6 assignments in the OSS world? Any recommendations? Thanks in advance, DJ

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL & leased line customers

2008-01-02 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Jan 2, 2008 10:21 AM, Iljitsch van Beijnum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2 jan 2008, at 6:42, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > > out of curiousity how is this sort of thing supposed to be done in v6? > > (traffic engineering given the '1 prefix per ISP' standard mantra) > > AS path prepending, l

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL & leased line customers

2008-01-02 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> If someone starts announcing dozens of prefixes in v6 then they either > get blocked or they get a filter that restricts them to their covering > route (or blocks them if they don't have it). Too late once they've announced them As with v4 if the herd doesn't stay together on policy then

Re: 2007 IPv4 Address Use Report

2008-01-02 Thread Joe Loiacono
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/02/2008 10:13:52 AM: > The 196.77 million figure is approxmately 19% higher than the 2005 and > 2006 numbers, which were largely the same. This is in line with my (un-scientific) observation that the growth of the default-free routing table grew modestly through 2

2007 IPv4 Address Use Report

2008-01-02 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
2007 IPv4 Address Use Report In 2007, the number of available IPv4 addresses went down from 1300.65 million to 1122.85 million, a difference of 177.8 million addresses. The number of usable addresses is 3706.65 million, so on January 1, 2007 we were at 64.9% utilization and a year later we