Setting Line Length

Hello: I've only been using Mutt on my FreeBSD box for a short while and am wondering how I should go about setting line length? Mutt's editor is vi. Thanks for your patience-- Ken Ciao-- Ken http://www.y2know.org/safari Failure is not an option- it comes bundled with your Microsoft product.

Re: Setting Line Length

At 12:01 AM 9/20/99 +0200, Thorsten Jens wrote: > >On Sun Sep 19 23:45:07 1999 MEST Ken wrote: > >> Hello: >> >> I've only been using Mutt on my FreeBSD box for a short while and am >> wondering how I should go about setting line length? Mutt's edi

Re: Setting Line Length

Now that I'm pointed in the right direction, I see that either wrapmargin or wraplen will do the job in vi (actually nvi). Previously I had tried specifying columns, but it didn't get me what I wanted. Guess I should have kept reading Thanks to all-- Ken At 12:08 PM 9/20/99 +

ncurses vs. slang??

Greets Again: I'm liking this puppy so much that I'm going to install it on another box. I don't know much about the ncurses or slang though. Enlightenment? Thanks-- Ken

Re: Message Width

is text width? > >:set textwidth=72 Something you may want to consider is specifying this in your .muttrc rather than .vimrc. I like vi to have long line lengths and not wrap unless necessary when I'm mucking about with code files like html and php. Ciao-- Ken http://www.y2know.org/safari Failure is not an option- it comes bundled with your Microsoft product.

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

RRENT [using slang 10202] >Compile options: >-DOMAIN Some time back I posted a question as to whether it would be best to build Mutt with ncurses of slang and the response seemed to favor slang. Looks like such is now not the case?? Ciao--Ken http://www.y2know.org/safari/ FreeBSD- Viagra for your server ;^)

clear screen after exit in tcsh?

versions of tcsh, and both basically the same .muttrc's and .tcshrc's. One machine clears the screen upon exiting mutt, the other keeps what's left of mutt on the screen and gives you a prompt. Thanks. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

Re: clear screen after exit in tcsh?

On Thu, Jun 22, 2000, Anand Buddhdev wrote: > On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 11:56:06AM -0400, Ken W wrote: > > > Hi there. I know this seems more like a tcsh question than a mutt > > question, but I only see this behavior in mutt. Anyone know what > > would make the screen

Re: clear screen after exit in tcsh?

On Thu, Jun 22, 2000, Thomas E. Dickey wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, Gary Johnson wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 02:02:43PM -0400, Ken W wrote: > > > > > They are both set to vt100, if that is what you mean. Also what I > > > forgot to say is that

Re: those users (was "Re: Reply to all???")

read through the mutt manual. With all do respect, hitting '?' would have given you your answer in less than a minute. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

shell-escape problem?

e. Is mutt not correctly resolving '~'? Thanks. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

Re: shell-escape problem?

On Tue, Jun 27, 2000, Jeremy Blosser wrote: > Ken W [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > Sorry if I am missing something obvious, but something seems odd to me > > with mutt's shell-escape behavior. If I hit '!' and type at the > > prompt 'vim ~/.signature

Re: shell-escape problem?

ified command line to the shell you > specify -- or perhaps to the shell specified at compile time to *then* > hand off to your specified shell -- and the sh derivatives don't know > what ~ means. I use tcsh. The same command, 'vim ~/.signature' works just fine from my command prompt. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

Re: shell-escape problem?

login shell from /etc/passwd is used. - but does nothing for this to set it to /bin/tcsh. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

Re: suggestion

'Reilly is right. I don't think they would sell many books on mutt alone. Probably the closest thing they would consider would be something like a book on unix mailers in general, like mutt, pine, etc. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

Re: suggestion #2

On Wed, Jun 28, 2000, fman wrote: > Is there plans to make enable mutt to read the news from a news server? Yeah, it already can. Hit 'qtin' or 'qslrn'. Works great. ;-) -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

basic pgp question

the PGP binaries (but not to pgpring!)" means. I copied language.txt to my $PGPPATH but don't know what the above means. Thanks. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

tin-like quoting

Has anyone here written a script to make vim quote replies like tin can, placing a spaces between quoted paragraphs? I would do it but I don't know how. :( I think this would be a great function for mutt as a variable. Thanks. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

Re: tin-like quoting

It would look like the following: On Thu, Jul 27, 2000, Joe Abley wrote: > On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 10:27:39PM -0400, Ken W wrote: > > Has anyone here written a script to make vim quote replies like tin > > can, placing a spaces between quoted paragraphs? I would do it but I >

Re: tin-like quoting

That would do it. Thanks, Ronny. I think I prefer the vim mapping. Overall I do prefer the quoting of the entire reply. On Wed, Jul 26, 2000, Ronny Haryanto wrote: > On 26-Jul-2000, Ken W wrote: > > I guess essentially, blank line would not be quoted. It would be > >

No Mail on Spool

uble from mutt. Any ideas? ken

Re: No Mail on Spool

et me know if I can be of any further help. Thanks. It may not be obvious, but you did help me realize that nothing was feeding the spool, which was the key to the problem. ken

changes in 1.2.x

e now. -Ken

Re: changes in 1.2.x

kup was set. Someone must have rebuilt vim on the server setting that. -Ken

Mailcap problems

correct it. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Ken Rachynski Database Developer/Web Developer/Linux Administrator (in training) mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] web - http://www.telusplanet.net/public/krachyn/ ICQ - 3113514

Re: Mailcap problems

On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 02:08:53PM -0600, Ken Rachynski wrote: > I'm at a loss as to why this is generating this error message and where > to look further to correct it. Any ideas would be appreciated. Umm, lets pretend that I actually woke up before writing that. Of course it does

Re: Maildir/procmail/Mutt/mutt -y/mailboxes

ver empty, but that's the way I prefer it to be. HTH -- Ken Rachynski Database Developer/Web Developer/Linux Administrator mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] web - http://www.telusplanet.net/public/krachyn/ ICQ - 3113514

Re: User ID different from email address

> > > it is a boolean option, so I think you meant "set envelope_from=true". > > > > "set envelope_from=yes" works for me > > Ooops, right, that's correct, boolean variables only have two values "yes" and > "no". In fact setting it to "true" gives an error. I keep forgetting about > this. I have simply 'set envelope_from' and it works. -Ken

threads, annoying threads

g ago. Things wind up even more confusing, sometimes a replied message to another both showing up on the same level, and replied to others not fitting anywhere near logically into the tree. Any ideas on how to clean this up? I know these are more issues of yahoo mail and such, but... Thanks.

Folder Collections in Mutt?

is a separate directory from where my incoming mailspool is located. Is there a way to do this in Mutt? thanks ken

long 'Sending message...'

When mutt sits for a while on 'Sending message...', is it a mutt or sendmail issue? Or something else? Thanks. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

Re: marking folders if there's at least one new mail

e to change to a folder > by > c= > which opens the default folder directory and I'd like to > see quickly in which folders I've new mail. http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-3.html#ss3.11 -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

Re: Trying to wrap my messages at 72 characters

message that I am composing? On top of what Doug said, could wl be conflicting with wm? I think wm gets preference. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

Re: help: high bit chars turned to '?'

t; somewhere? Sorry I can't help, but I get this too on occasion and would love to fix it. Last time I got it I asked my friend what he did with the email he sent and he said he used Word as the editor for Outlook. Double wammy, eh? -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

reloading mutt aliases file

that alias. I also tried 'source ~/.mutt.aliases' , etc. Thanks. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

Re: Sender

: header. It's most likely your MTA. The way I ahve found to eliminate this is to be included in your MTA's Trusted Users (sendmail in my case). Luckily now I admin the system where my mail is, so I put myself in. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

thread date question

I'm sorry, but I have looked all over my muttrc and the mutt manual, but can't find this anymore. What variable is it that pushed a thead to the top of the index if there is new mail in it? Thanks. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

Re: character limit

But it's long-standing netiquette to do > > it. > > RFC 1855 (the Netiquette RFC) Section 2.1.1, contains the following: > > - Limit line length to fewer than 65 characters and end a line > with a carriage return. 65?!? I thought 72 was a standard. I set it to 70 and thought it was a nice limit. Wow, and that's only from 1995. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

autoview HTML question

="us-ascii" My .mailcap has: text/html; lynx -dump %s; copiousoutput; nametemplate=%s.html And my .muttrc has: auto_view text/html -Ken

Re: autoview HTML question

On Wed, Feb 7, 2001, G.Embery wrote: > On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 12:14:53AM -0500, Ken Weingold wrote: > > What is it that mutt uses to tell that an email is in HTML? I set > > autoview to launch lynx to view HTML, and all of a sudden I am seeing > > a lot more emails as ht

Re: rtf viewing

RTF with other MUAs actually comes in as text/html. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

Re: line width?

n external paragraph formatter like par and run it on the > message before you send it is that the best way to do it, or am > I missing some simple feature of vim? You missed some simple feature of vim. ;-) 'set wm=60' for 60 lines. wm=wrapmargin. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

Re: line width?

On Tue, Feb 13, 2001, Chip Paswater wrote: > set editor="vi -c 'set tw=60'" Woops, tw is what I meant. Not wm. Ignore my post. :-/ -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

MacOS X

lose a lot of patience with XF86 and usually wind up back at NT. Anyway, has anyone here tried it and built mutt on it? I am wondering how some of the software I use a lot will build and run under it. Thanks. And sorry if this is OT. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

mutt not deleting attachment

ment. Message stays the same. The mailbox is not read-only. And this is happening in my spool folder as well as a mailbox under ~/Mail/. Any ideas why this happens? This is mutt 1.2.5i. I have no idea how long it's been like this, but I used to be able to do this. Thanks. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

Re: standalone app vs. xterm interface question

bject: Re: standalone app vs. xterm interface question Mutt displayed the email from [EMAIL PROTECTED], showing it from me in the index. FYI. -Ken

Re: Word-wrap when printing and quoting

ot; command. Or just type "gqG" which will reformat every > line until the end. Yeah, one of my favorite and most used functions of vim for email. I would be lost without it. Q} is one of my most used keystroke combos. I still keep the old (?) use of Q instead of gq. Btw, I re

Re: Setting From: when replying

it still puts in the my_hdr I have set. Thanks. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

Re: Setting From: when replying

uot;(Michael.Tatge|michael_tatge)" > > # I don't want reverse_name here > send-hook . 'unmy_hdr From:' > send-hook '~t kencht' 'my_hdr From: Michael Tatge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>' That was exactly it. Thanks so much. -Ken

mutt praise (was: Re: Replying to "From:" address)

;Just when you thought it couldn't get any better", or something like that. Mutt never ceases to amaze me with its capabilities. And people give me a blank stare when they see me using a text-based MUA. "This is how you see email? :-/" :) -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

Re: filtering

able and had everything set that I wanted. Granted I ask things every once in a while here that are in the manual and I didn't know, since I built my muttrc with mutt 0.88. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

Re: Limiting on non-subject fields

27;t ready *everything* there is to read > about mutt yet). Here you go: <http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-4.html#ss4.2>. Have fun. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

Re: virus

27;s mediocre for email, and a constant target. If you have to use a Windows MUA, I would recommend Eudora. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

adfilter.pl

find from searching (http://www.wizzu.com/mutt/). He says that it is to be invoked from procmail, but I am not sure of how to set up the recipe. Anyone? Thanks a lot. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

adfilter - forget it

Woops, sorry. There are examples at the top of the script. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

Re: Bug in mutt set index_format?

the following instead: folder-hook . 'set index_format="%4C %Z %{%b %d} %-25.25L (%4l) %s"' -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

upcoming features?

I was just curious what new features are being developed for future release(s) of mutt. Thanks. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

mutt site maintenance?

Is it only Jeremy who maintains the mutt site? The URL to a patch I have linked from there is dead, and I send him the updated one but haven't heard from him. Thanks. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

Re: spell checking

for > this is "i" when composing a message. Note that invocation of ispell is > governed by the $ispell variable, which must be set to the path of > ispell. (The default is: "/usr/bin/ispell".) If ispell is in your path, you shouldn't need to do anything. Just hit 'i' in the compose menu. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

Re: scrolling in a message

x27;t find this simple thing. > Found something about '<' and '>' but this only works in the message > lister. If this helps, I make some things in the mutt pager like less. I mapped the up arrow to previous-line and the down arrow to next-line. bind pager pr

DMAIL

Does anyone here use DMAIL? I have some questions if you wouldn't mind emailing me off the list. Thanks. And sorry for the OT. -Ken

Re: new mail in mailboxes

ll the new email > in the current mailbox only. It won't switch mailboxes--this must be > done manually. However, I do get messages in mutt when new mail > appears in other folders. Is this behavior normal? cycles through the mailboxes with new mail. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

Re: new mail in mailboxes

On Mon, Apr 30, 2001, Brian Nelson wrote: > On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 02:28:22PM -0400, Ken Weingold wrote: > > cycles through the mailboxes with new mail. > > > It does? From what view? For me, in the index view opens the > selected message (ie. bound to display-messa

Re: How to attach a previous email?

enu? Section 2.4 in the manual. And even more simply, if it is only a paragraph or a few lines, as you say, what about copy and paste? :) -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

Re: first steps v.1.2.5-4

ailboxes are never removed. Note: This only applies to mbox and MMDF folders, Mutt does not delete MH and Maildir directories. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

Re: Does this patch really exist (Sven?)

On Thu, Jun 28, 2001, Greg Matheson wrote: > Yes, I only tried it on mbox folders. I wonder if a patch to readmsg > for maildir folders was what Sven Guckes was talking about?! Try the newsgroups. Sven tends to hang out there more than the list. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: solaris + linux

FYI: CDE's Terminal does color. As soon as my DSL is connected at home I will be installing stuff such as GNOME, but until then Terminal works fine. Of course I need to know how to make the cursor not blink by default... :) -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

netiquette (was: Re: Simple mutt question ... I think?)

e in USENET than email, though. You have a thread going on for a while, and want to quote it, but it is MANY lines. That is where I wonder what to do, since you could have more than a page-worth of just quoting, and it is all relevent. Still okay? I do do it, since I think it is better than top-posting, but still ugly. Thanks. -Ken

Re: netiquette [ drifting OT ]

yes, but there really are cases soemtimes where a lot more than the most recent post is necessary to understand the reply. Sad but true. :( -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

Re: quote deleting in vim (OT)

lete 10s, or even 100s of lines before I get to my > sig... any easy way of doing "Delete until ^--"? I could also write a > macro to do DG:r~/.sig^M, but thought there might be an easier way? > > Anyone? How about 'd}' ? -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest

Re: Inc?

number of folders with new messages, but what is it an abbreviation for? > > "Incoming". It even took me a second to remember. :-) Oh, so THAT'S what it stands for! In all the years I am using mutt, I never knew. :) -Ken

Re: Simple mutt question ... I think? [now miles OT]

k is what there is, and top-posting is the norm, it makes it worse to do "proper" replies, since they will take that and just top post. Makes things even more confusing. I go through this all the time at work. :-/ -Ken

Re: highlighting quotes in pager

e > > > > each come up in its own color? > > This is how this looked for me: <http://www.hellrot.org/mutt/colors.jpg>. -Ken

Re: highlighting quotes in pager

On Tue, Jul 31, 2001, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > You probably want to look in your .muttrc for the 'pager' directive. > If you don't have it set, then you are using the internal one. I don't have a problem, I was just showing how that example looked in color. :) -Ken

colors with wrapped quotes

s a different color. Anyone know a way of dealing with this? Thanks. -Ken

bold vs. bright color/text

'-'s meld together into one bold line. Is there a way to get the color in actual bold? Thanks. -Ken

Re: Threading lists w/ stupid users

ge they replied to and changed the subject to make a new one. They never have any clue how I know that. >:) -Ken

Re: Threading lists w/ stupid users

On Thu, Aug 2, 2001, David T-G aptly wrote: > > I guess us mutt folks are just elitist bastards :-) Yes, and for better or for worse, damn proud of it. :) At least there are a FEW people who still appreciate proper formatting. :-/ -Ken

patches - 1.2 -> 1.3

patch-1.2.bj.status-time.1 patch-0.94.7.sec.pager_status_on_top.1 Both work fine with 1.2.5. Thanks. -Ken

Re: colors with wrapped quotes

tring chars, another line > (maybe shorter than length X) without any, and another line with the > same number of indent_string chars and would then go back to the upper > line and join up the bare one... Thanks. For me it's not worth the effort this way, since I view a message and then usually delete it. -Ken

make warning

Now sure if I should be worried about it, but I get this on the last line from running make on 1.3.20i: muttlib.c:73: warning: mktemp() possibly used unsafely; consider using mkstemp() Anything I should be worried about? Sorry if this is a common question. -Ken

patch tutorial?

Does anyone know of any sites with tutorials on the basics of writing patches? I would like to modify an older patch, but need some basic direction on what I am looking at. Thanks. -Ken

colors/mono: bold vs. bright

e 'bright' simply seems to make them brighter. Thanks. -Ken

recompile for updated ncurses?

I built mutt with ncurses 5.0, and just updated ncurses to 5.2. Any reason to recompile mutt? Thanks. -Ken

Re: recompile for updated ncurses?

On Sat, Aug 18, 2001, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > Ken Weingold [18/08/01 03:06 -0400]: > > I built mutt with ncurses 5.0, and just updated ncurses to 5.2. Any > > reason to recompile mutt? > > Reason? See if something breaks - if so recompile (nothing should, ideal

Re: mailboxes and new mail notification

weren't. I'll wait for some 'real' new mail and see what > happens. :) You can do it all on one line. And '!' means your spool folder. Try: mailboxes ! =blackbox HTH -Ken ps: please set some sort of line wrapping in your editor

Re: procmail

One thing, too. It is possible that the MTA on your server is ignoring procmail. I had this issue once on a shell account I got. they use dmail, and it did just this. I don't have root there, and the admin is impossible to get hold of, so I gave up. Just a thought. -Ken

Re: procmail

On Sun, Aug 19, 2001, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > Ken Weingold [19/08/01 05:22 -0400]: > > One thing, too. It is possible that the MTA on your server is > > ignoring procmail. I had this issue once on a shell account I got. > > they use dmail, and it did just this. I

spool folder notification weirdness

Starting today, mutt will show when there is new mail in my spool folder at the bottom, but will not put it in the status bar in the Inc part. If I manually change to it, the new mail is there, marked 'N'. Why would it be doing this? -Ken

messages object

d. I guess the line for changing mailboxes (default binding: 'c'), is not supposed to be. Just curious exactly what is supposed to be and what not, from that line. Thanks. -Ken

Re: vim / ispell

be able to check a particular word or paragraph. > > i downloaded one such set of macros (from i forget where) but it was a > bit complex for my needs. Will, I think you are looking for 'i' in the Compose menu, after you leave your editor. It will run ispell on the email. -Ken

Re: Color

since color would work in the CDE Terminal, but not under any other, with whatever other term settings I tried. HTH... -Ken

Re: Moving messages

I think it is bound to 's' by default, though I change it to 'S'. -Ken

mailto URLs (was: Re: [Announce] mutt-1.3.22 (BETA) is out.)

t doesn't seem to work when I paste a mailto URL into the To: line when I hit 'm' for a new mail. -Ken

Re: WTC and Pentagon disaster

l I got from my rooftop in Brooklyn, probably minutes before the towers collapsed: http://dev.suddenindustries.com/ken/wtc.mpg http://www.hellrot.org/stuff/wtc/wtc-1.jpg http://www.hellrot.org/stuff/wtc/wtc-2.jpg http://www.hellrot.org/stuff/wtc/wtc-3.jpg http://www.hellrot.org/stuff/wtc/wtc-4.jpg h

Re: Thread sorting question

rder sort_aux is reversed again (which is not the right thing to do, but kept to not break any existing configuration setting)." -Ken

Re: switch from maildir format back to mbox

Why is it that in the mutt pager, all I saw from Suresh's email was: [-- Error: unable to create PGP subprocess! --] -END PGP SIGNATURE- I can see the text from the attachment menu and in my editor in a reply, but not in the pager. Thanks. -Ken

Re: pgp subprocess (was "Re: switch from maildir format back to mbox")

On Wed, Oct 24, 2001, David T-G wrote: > ...and then Ken Weingold said... > % Why is it that in the mutt pager, all I saw from Suresh's email was: > % > % [-- Error: unable to create PGP subprocess! --] > % -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > Probably because mutt couldn

odd new mail problem

h it? It's about 23 megs. Thanks. -Ken

Re: How to mark read messages unread?

> to want to be able to do, but I can't seem to find it in the manual. How about hitting 'N' on the message in the index. Marks it as new. -Ken

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