Re: Buffy notification ordering

2015-06-25 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 24.06.15 09:00, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > When there are too many folders with new mail, the buffy notification > mechanism truncates the list and replaces the rest with "...". But not > all folders are equally important, and it so happens that for me the > folders that make it to the visible list

Re: Mutt on ssl gmail "allow unsecure apps" == off => webalert

2015-06-25 Thread Mick
On 24-06-2015 ,22:48:37, Ben Fitzgerald wrote: > Hi > > I recently updated my google preferences and limited set "allow > unsecure apps" to "off". > > Later I tried to login to gmail with mutt and found it no longer > worked as imap attempted AUTHENTICATE PLAIN over port 993 (SSL). Can you confi

Re: Mutt on ssl gmail "allow unsecure apps" == off => webalert

2015-06-25 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi Mick, On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 09:28:16AM +0100, Mick wrote: > On 24-06-2015 ,22:48:37, Ben Fitzgerald wrote: > > > I'm a little confused about why google consider this unsafe. I'd like > > to understand this better so if anyone has pointers to reading up do > > please post, however my primary

Re: Mutt on ssl gmail "allow unsecure apps" == off => webalert

2015-06-25 Thread Xu Wang
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 4:28 AM, Mick wrote: > On 24-06-2015 ,22:48:37, Ben Fitzgerald wrote: > I don't know why this is happening in your case. I have Google's > "Access for less secure apps" turned On and I have no problem (yet) > connecting to their IMAP4 server. I hope this continues to be

Re: Mutt on ssl gmail "allow unsecure apps" == off => webalert

2015-06-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-06-25, Ben Fitzgerald wrote: > I recently updated my google preferences and limited set "allow > unsecure apps" to "off". > > Later I tried to login to gmail with mutt and found it no longer > worked as imap attempted AUTHENTICATE PLAIN over port 993 (SSL). > > I'm a little confused about

Re: Mutt on ssl gmail "allow unsecure apps" == off => webalert

2015-06-25 Thread Mick
On Thursday 25 Jun 2015 16:13:35 Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2015-06-25, Ben Fitzgerald wrote: > > I recently updated my google preferences and limited set "allow > > unsecure apps" to "off". > > > > Later I tried to login to gmail with mutt and found it no longer > > worked as imap attempted AUTHE

Re: saving messages to files/permissions?

2015-06-25 Thread Derek Martin
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 03:05:21PM +0200, bastian-muttu...@t6l.de wrote: > > This is wrong. The file permissions are what they are quite > > specifically and intentionally for security reasons. If you want to > > make the files less secure, you are required to make a conscious > > decision on a c

Re: saving messages to files/permissions?

2015-06-25 Thread David Champion
* On 25 Jun 2015, Derek Martin wrote: > to secure it. That is a massive security failure. If other people > are on your system and have access to the directory where your > attachments are stored, YOU DO NOT WANT THIS. And if not, YOU DO NOT > NEED THIS. So practically speaking there's no good

Re: saving messages to files/permissions?

2015-06-25 Thread Derek Martin
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:48:57AM -0500, David Champion wrote: > * On 25 Jun 2015, Derek Martin wrote: > > to secure it. That is a massive security failure. If other people > > are on your system and have access to the directory where your > > attachments are stored, YOU DO NOT WANT THIS. And

Re: saving messages to files/permissions?

2015-06-25 Thread Derek Martin
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 01:25:19PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:48:57AM -0500, David Champion wrote: > > I generally agree with Derek but I want to point out one exception to > > this. There are use cases for allowing specific roles/service accounts > > access to your un