Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Andrea Hanke
Hello together, I have a problem with mutt and charset configuration. I am working with Ubuntu and my local settings are there: LANG=de_DE.utf8 LANGUAGE= LC_CTYPE="de_DE.utf8" LC_NUMERIC=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_TIME=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE="de_DE.utf8" LC_MONETARY=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES="de_DE.utf8" LC_P

Re: isn't doing what I expect, help please

2013-01-02 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 02Jan2013 07:23, Chris Green wrote: | On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 10:57:03AM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: | > The weird names may be Chris trying to work with something | > else, like Dovecot which by default has a fairly horrible filesystem | > naming scheme for maildirs. | | Yes, the trouble is

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Nikola Petrov
On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 10:20:56AM +0100, Andrea Hanke wrote: > Hello together, > > I have a problem with mutt and charset configuration. > > I am working with Ubuntu and my local settings are there: > > LANG=de_DE.utf8 > LANGUAGE= > LC_CTYPE="de_DE.utf8" > LC_NUMERIC=de_DE.UTF-8 > LC_TIME=de_DE

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting Andrea Hanke (andreas.ha...@r-kom.de): > I am working with Ubuntu and my local settings are there: > LANG=de_DE.utf8 The correct way to write it is "de_DE.UTF-8". This might well be the source of your troubles. > LC_CTYPE="de_DE.utf8" > LC_NUMERIC=de_DE.UTF-8 ^^ See it mixed here? > Al

Re: isn't doing what I expect, help please

2013-01-02 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
* Michael Elkins [2012-12-31 15:10:29 +]: > On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 09:04:21AM +, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > >I use something very similar: I read the Maildirs directly on my mx > >server using mutt but use imap from my Mac to the server also using mutt > >and ssh tunnel; however, I do u

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Andrea Hanke
Hi Sander, thanks a lot for your feedback: OK I changed my /etc/default/locale etc. and now my locals: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 LANGUAGE= LC_CTYPE="de_DE.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_TIME=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE="de_DE.UTF-8" LC_MONETARY=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES="de_DE.UTF-8" LC_PAPER=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_N

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting Andrea Hanke (andreas.ha...@r-kom.de): > OK I changed my /etc/default/locale etc. and now my locals: > LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 > And if I enter 'locale charmap' it shows: UTF-8. Good. That's part one. ;-) > But...mutt shows the ��� wrong, not just in any mails. also in the > mutt menue, for ex

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hi Sander, thanks for the reply. I am using vim. And if I write an E-Mail, like now I could see the ü into your "Grüße" Everthing in VIM is perfect. But if I switch back to mutt every ü is an M-CM-< Also in the mutt menue. That is the point why I could not belive that this is problem with my

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Andreas Kneib
* Andreas Hanke schrieb am 02.01.2013 um 15:35 Uhr: > And if I write an E-Mail, like now I could see the ü into your "Grüße" > Everthing in VIM is perfect. > But if I switch back to mutt every ü is an M-CM-< > Also in the mutt menue. Do you use a terminal-emulator with utf8-support? Andreas

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hi Andreas, yes I am sure that I am using an terminal-emulater with utf8-support. Because into the terminal the äöü works fine -> without vim and mutt And in vim it also works fine. thanks andreas [ Andreas Kneib - 02.01.2013 15:51:19 ]: > * Andreas Hanke schrieb am 02.01.2013 um 15:35 U

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting Andreas Hanke (andreas.ha...@r-kom.de): > I am using vim. > And if I write an E-Mail, like now I could see the ü into your "Grüße" > Everthing in VIM is perfect. Okay. Your outgoing emails are perfectly okay now. Encoding is set to UTF-8 and the characters show correct on my terminal. Th

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting Andreas Hanke (andreas.ha...@r-kom.de): > yes I am sure that I am using an terminal-emulater with utf8-support. > Because into the terminal the äöü works fine -> without vim and mutt This message was once again sent with iso-8859-1 encoding. :) -Sndr. -- | Zebras are colored with light

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Michael Elkins
On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 03:59:48PM +0100, Andreas Hanke wrote: Hi Andreas, yes I am sure that I am using an terminal-emulater with utf8-support. Because into the terminal the äöü works fine -> without vim and mutt And in vim it also works fine. When you are editing an email in vim, what are t

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hi Sander, Hi other, thanks a lot for the feedback! I have the informations for you: 1.) the "wget -qO- http://8n1.org/utf8"; returns the collect values. 2.) I have no charset config into my .muttrc 3.) ":set ?charset" in mutt returns "charset="utf-8"" 4.) ":set encoding" in vim return "encod

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting Andreas Hanke (andreas.ha...@r-kom.de): > 1.) the "wget -qO- http://8n1.org/utf8"; returns the collect values. > 2.) I have no charset config into my .muttrc > 3.) ":set ?charset" in mutt returns "charset="utf-8"" > 4.) ":set encoding" in vim return "encoding=utf-8" > 5.) ":set fileencodin

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Michael Elkins
On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 04:24:50PM +0100, Andreas Hanke wrote: 1.) the "wget -qO- http://8n1.org/utf8"; returns the collect values. 2.) I have no charset config into my .muttrc 3.) ":set ?charset" in mutt returns "charset="utf-8"" 4.) ":set encoding" in vim return "encoding=utf-8" 5.) ":set f

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Andreas Hanke
:-( Yes, what I am seeing is: M-CM-$M-CM-'M-CM-'M-CM-)M-CM-1tM-aM-9M- But if I reply to your mail and open with vim, like in this moment: everthing works... wow... [ Sander Smeenk - 02.01.2013 17:10:13 ]: > Quoting Andreas Hanke (andreas.ha...@r-kom.de): > > > 1.) the "wget -qO- http:

Transitioning to IMAP & maildir. Howto define ~/mail instead of ~/Mail?

2013-01-02 Thread s. keeling
Hi. Long time. :-) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) # Debian testing/wheezy. Background, I used mutt for years locally, dumping mail into ~/Mail via POP. Now, I've recently discovered that my ISP allows me IMAP access, so I'm trying to resurrect my old mutt config. The problem is, I ca

Re: Transitioning to IMAP & maildir. Howto define ~/mail instead of ~/Mail?

2013-01-02 Thread Michael Elkins
On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 10:26:23AM -0700, s. keeling wrote: set folder="~/mail" Make sure that your "set folder" line appears before any use of "+" or "=" in mailbox names in any other variables or hooks. ~/Mail is the default value, so if you did something like this: save-hook . +foo set

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Andreas Kneib
* Andreas Hanke schrieb am 02.01.2013 um 16:24 Uhr: > I have the informations for you: > 1.) the "wget -qO- http://8n1.org/utf8"; returns the collect values. > 2.) I have no charset config into my .muttrc > 3.) ":set ?charset" in mutt returns "charset="utf-8"" > 4.) ":set encoding" in vim retu

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Michael Elkins
I don't see anything too out of the ordinary with your configuration, short of the sidebar patch. I don't know whether that patch would affect the display in the manner your described, but it would be helpful if you could tell me whether or not you see the same behavior with stock mutt, either

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Michael Elkins
On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 04:12:05PM +, Michael Elkins wrote: On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 04:24:50PM +0100, Andreas Hanke wrote: 1.) the "wget -qO- http://8n1.org/utf8"; returns the collect values. 2.) I have no charset config into my .muttrc 3.) ":set ?charset" in mutt returns "charset="utf-8""

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Andreas Kneib
* Sander Smeenk schrieb am 02.01.2013 um 16:08 Uhr: > Quoting Andreas Hanke (andreas.ha...@r-kom.de): > > But if switch back to mutt the ü is an M-CM-< -> also in the menues. > > any ideas? > Read your mails with vim. :-)) :-D Mother Google give me this hint: , | | http://lists.gnu.org/a

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Andreas Kneib
* Michael Elkins schrieb am 02.01.2013 um 18:21 Uhr: > For the record, here are the pertinent parts of his `mutt -v' output: > ncurses: ncurses 5.9.20110404 (compiled with 5.9) > +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK +HAVE_WC_FUNCS +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET > +HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR > +HAVE_ICONV -ICONV_NONT

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
* Andreas Hanke [2013-01-02 16:24:50 +0100]: > Hi Sander, Hi other, > > thanks a lot for the feedback! > > I have the informations for you: > > 1.) the "wget -qO- http://8n1.org/utf8"; returns the collect values. > > 2.) I have no charset config into my .muttrc > > 3.) ":set ?charset" in mut

Re: Transitioning to IMAP & maildir. Howto define ~/mail instead of ~/Mail?

2013-01-02 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
* s. keeling [2013-01-02 10:26:23 -0700]: > Hi. Long time. :-) > >User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) # Debian testing/wheezy. > > Background, I used mutt for years locally, dumping mail into ~/Mail > via POP. Now, I've recently discovered that my ISP allows me IMAP > access, so I'm try

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
* Andreas Kneib [2013-01-02 19:53:27 +0100]: > * Michael Elkins schrieb am 02.01.2013 um 18:21 Uhr: > > > For the record, here are the pertinent parts of his `mutt -v' output: > > > ncurses: ncurses 5.9.20110404 (compiled with 5.9) > > +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK +HAVE_WC_FUNCS +HAVE_LANGINFO_

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Michael Elkins
On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 07:41:26PM +0100, Andreas Kneib wrote: | http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/weechat-dev/2008-11/msg8.html | | Problem was link against libncurses instead of libncursesw. | I'll add warning with cmake when this library is not found (it's not | required, but recommended i

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Dale A. Raby
> Well, that's strange. Everyting is normal and expected then. > Still your mutt pager shows strange characters when i type äççéñtṡ? > > Regards, > -Sander. Mein Deutsch ist nicht gut, aber the umlaut characters disply just fine on my system. What I would like to know is how you type them on

Re: Transitioning to IMAP & maildir. Howto define ~/mail instead of ~/Mail?

2013-01-02 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Jamie Paul Griffin: > * s. keeling [2013-01-02 10:26:23 -0700]: > > > Hi. Long time. :-) > > > >User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) # Debian testing/wheezy. > > > > Background, I used mutt for years locally, dumping mail into ~/Mail > > via POP. Now, I've recently discover

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Sander Smeenk: > > No, serious, there has to be a problem with your mutt config and/or > terminal configuration, still. Can you perform a wget from the same > system mutt is running on? > > Run wget -qO- http://8n1.org/utf8 > > This should show a 'demo' of unicode capabilities. I