Re: message signing

2002-04-02 Thread Dave Smith
Others have answered the other points, so I'll just answer this: On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 11:00:39AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > so you are saying it is a totally subjective judgement call? Yes. It's a question of trust, which is very difficult to compute algorithmically... The question i

customizing addresses

2002-04-02 Thread Eduardo Gargiulo
Hi all. Is there any way to customize the format of addresses records in mutt? I want to add some fields (mailing address, phone, etc) to the aliases records. -- Eduardo Gargiulo egargiulo(at)ingdesi(dot)net|com

Re: customizing addresses

2002-04-02 Thread David T-G
Eduardo -- ...and then Eduardo Gargiulo said... % % Hi all. Hello! % % Is there any way to customize the format of addresses records in mutt? Not really; it's very basic and very structured. % I want to add some fields (mailing address, phone, etc) to the aliases % records. You're better

Re: gpg-key probs

2002-04-02 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
--uh9ZiVrAOUUm9fzH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Rocco Rutte spake thus: > On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 04:18:29:PM -0500 Shawn McMahon wrote: > > begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at > >

Re: message signing

2002-04-02 Thread Martin Karlsson
* Peter T. Abplanalp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-04-01 12.14 -0700]: [...] > right. that is what i thought. so the question remains, how does one > develop a web of trust using good judgement while probably being unable > to verify anyone's identity outside of long distance (email, phone, fax, et

Re: Scrolling the Index -> current-{top,middle,bottom}

2002-04-02 Thread David DeSimone
Sven Guckes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > there is no command which scrolls the index by one line - sorry. What about these? Index bindings: < previous-line scroll up one line > next-line scroll down one line If you were to combine these in a macro... mac

automating move of folders, imap to imap

2002-04-02 Thread Robert Chien
Hi, I'm in the process of writing a CGI/Perl script to move folders from one IMAP server to another IMAP server. I would like to use mutt because I'm already familiar with it, but it's the first time I use mutt in a non-interactive way. I've looked at the docs and the mailing list archives, unfo

Re: customizing addresses

2002-04-02 Thread Pankaj Jangid
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 08:10:53AM -0500, David T-G wrote: > % I want to add some fields (mailing address, phone, etc) to the aliases > % records. > > You're better off using something like abook, which can keep all of that > extra stuff but only hand mutt what it needs. There are lots of addres

Re: automating move of folders, imap to imap

2002-04-02 Thread Simon White
01-Apr-02 at 18:57, Robert Chien ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > Hi, > > I'm in the process of writing a CGI/Perl script to move > folders from one IMAP server to another IMAP server. I would > like to use mutt because I'm already familiar with it, but > it's the first time I use mutt in a non-inte

close IMAP connections

2002-04-02 Thread Dan Boger
I'm trying to use an IMAP folder with mutt, and running into an annoying problem: when I don't access that one folder for a while, and I switch to it (with a macro), I get an error "connection closed" and an empty index. the only thing I could find that would fix this is to quit mutt and start it

Re: pgp_create_traditional in 1.5.0

2002-04-02 Thread Thomas Roessler
On 2002-03-27 09:47:07 -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote: >OpenPGP specifies application/pgp, but that breaks some MUAs that >don't follow the OpenPGP RFC. Where does the OpenPGP RFC specify that? -- Thomas Roessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (ICQ: 127158008) msg26523/pgp0.

Re: close IMAP connections

2002-04-02 Thread Heiko Heil
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 10:50:24AM -0500, Dan Boger wrote: > when I don't access that one folder for a while, and I switch to it > (with a macro), I get an error "connection closed" and an empty index. > the only thing I could find that would fix this is to quit mutt and > start it again - a new c

Re: close IMAP connections

2002-04-02 Thread Dan Boger
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 06:32:07PM +0200, Heiko Heil wrote: > I have the same problem here. I find it very annoying that due to the > lost connection my sent E-Mail cannot be saved. > > By the way - I use the preconnect-feature in order to access my > imap-port: > set preconnect="ssh -f -q -L 809

Re: pgp_create_traditional in 1.5.0

2002-04-02 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Thomas Roessler said on Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 05:59:32PM +0200: > >OpenPGP specifies application/pgp, but that breaks some MUAs that > >don't follow the OpenPGP RFC. > > Where does the OpenPGP RFC specify that? Sorry, I mispoke; it was another standard that specified that, an

Re: close IMAP connections

2002-04-02 Thread Simon White
02-Apr-02 at 11:35, Dan Boger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > I just use imaps, and it's all behind my firewall anyway... but that > doesn't solve the problem ... > All my mailboxes are IMAP, so I don't have this problem, since I'm always connected to the server. However, I have a fairly short ima

Re: close IMAP connections

2002-04-02 Thread Dan Boger
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 04:56:41PM +, Simon White wrote: > All my mailboxes are IMAP, so I don't have this problem, since I'm always > connected to the server. However, I have a fairly short > imap_checkinterval: > set imap_checkinterval=60 I saw that in the manual, but when I try it, I get a

Re: automating move of folders, imap to imap

2002-04-02 Thread David Champion
* On 2002.04.02, in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, * "Simon White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 01-Apr-02 at 18:57, Robert Chien ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > > Hi, > > > > I'm in the process of writing a CGI/Perl script to move > > folders from one IMAP server to another IMAP server. I would > > Er

Re: Scrolling the Index -> current-{top,middle,bottom}

2002-04-02 Thread David T-G
David -- ...and then David DeSimone said... % % Sven Guckes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: % > % > there is no command which scrolls the index by one line - sorry. % % What about these? % % Index bindings: % < previous-line scroll up one line % > next-line scroll

Re: gpg-key probs

2002-04-02 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, * Rob 'Feztaa' Park [04/02/02 01:12:14] wrote: > Alas! Rocco Rutte spake thus: > > On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 04:18:29:PM -0500 Shawn McMahon wrote: > > > begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at > > > 11:02:23PM +0200: > > > > On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 03:07:58:PM -0500 ShRen M

Re: automating move of folders, imap to imap

2002-04-02 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what David Champion said on Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 11:47:51AM -0600: > For doing this between two servers *neither* of which you have access > to, I don't see a way to automate it, since there's no direct means of > getting the folder tree structure in mutt and passing it to a script.

Re: close IMAP connections

2002-04-02 Thread Heiko Heil
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 11:35:51AM -0500, Dan Boger wrote: > I just use imaps, and it's all behind my firewall anyway... but that > doesn't solve the problem ... I like port-forwarding via ssh because I don't want to open my imap-port. -- Cheers, Paranoia-Heiko ;-) msg26533/pgp0.pgp Descr

Re: automating move of folders, imap to imap

2002-04-02 Thread Simon White
02-Apr-02 at 11:47, David Champion ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > > in which case you're not going to be doing it > > for a whole heap of users, are you? > > Why not? > > I've been in this situation (or, more accurately, postured a similar on > behalf of my users). O

Re: close IMAP connections

2002-04-02 Thread Simon White
02-Apr-02 at 11:59, Dan Boger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 04:56:41PM +, Simon White wrote: > > All my mailboxes are IMAP, so I don't have this problem, since I'm always > > connected to the server. However, I have a fairly short > > imap_checkinterval: > > set imap_ch

Re: close IMAP connections

2002-04-02 Thread Dan Boger
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 06:17:50PM +, Simon White wrote: > Let me confirm for Heike and Dan, that you have local folders and IMAP > folders in your config, and this is why your IMAP folders are timing out > (on the server) causing the connection to close and thus creating your > problem with n

Re: close IMAP connections

2002-04-02 Thread Michael Tatge
Dan Boger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: > when I don't access that one folder for a while, and I switch to it > (with a macro), I get an error "connection closed" and an empty index. > the only thing I could find that would fix this is to quit mutt and > start it again - a new connection will then

Re: close IMAP connections

2002-04-02 Thread David Champion
* On 2002.04.02, in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, * "Dan Boger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 04:56:41PM +, Simon White wrote: > > All my mailboxes are IMAP, so I don't have this problem, since I'm always > > connected to the server. However, I have a fairly short > > imap_

Re: close IMAP connections

2002-04-02 Thread Simon White
02-Apr-02 at 13:22, Dan Boger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > I have two setups (two different boxes) - one has a bunch of local > (non-imap) folders, and a macro defined to access an IMAP folder > (infrequently). the other box is all IMAP - my folders via IMAP (which > update and work fine), and t

Re: close IMAP connections

2002-04-02 Thread Simon White
02-Apr-02 at 20:22, Michael Tatge ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > Check out $imap_keepalive The default is 600 seconds for imap_keepalive, so I guess those who have problems should set this lower. I assume if mail_check is set to 30 (as in my config) then I needn't set an imap_keepalive, since I h

Re: close IMAP connections

2002-04-02 Thread Dan Boger
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 12:23:01PM -0600, David Champion wrote: > It's a little briefer in the actual NEWS file (which this was meant > to patch). Basically, it was determined that $imap_checkinterval and > $mail_check were redundant, so we dropped the special imap one. _very_ interesting. so wh

Re: close IMAP connections

2002-04-02 Thread Dan Boger
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 06:24:45PM +, Simon White wrote: > 02-Apr-02 at 13:22, Dan Boger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > > I have two setups (two different boxes) - one has a bunch of local > > (non-imap) folders, and a macro defined to access an IMAP folder > > (infrequently). the other box is

Re: close IMAP connections

2002-04-02 Thread Luke Ross
Hi, > > when I don't access that one folder for a while, and I switch to it > > (with a macro), I get an error "connection closed" and an empty index. > > the only thing I could find that would fix this is to quit mutt and > > start it again - a new connection will then be established. > > Check

Re: Mutt ignoring 'From ' lines in mailbox

2002-04-02 Thread David DeSimone
James Greenwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I looked more carefully at the From lines of the messages > it was picking up compared to those it wasn't, and in the > ones mutt can see, the sender is an e-mail address, e.g. : > > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Oct 16 12:48:57 2001 > > whereas

Re: Scrolling the Index -> current-{top,middle,bottom}

2002-04-02 Thread Robert Conde
That is slick. It's more like macro index { macro index } -R On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 06:30:12PM -0600, David DeSimone wrote: > Sven Guckes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > there is no command which scrolls the index by one line - sorry. > > What about these? > > Index bindings: >

Re: close IMAP connections

2002-04-02 Thread Heiko Heil
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 06:24:45PM +, Simon White wrote: > I'm assuming that you mean the IMAP folder with a different username. > > Do you have anything set for mail_check in your .muttrc? > How about you, Heike? ^ --> o ;-) Currently I use: set mail_check=120 set timeout=15 After I have

Re: close IMAP connections

2002-04-02 Thread Simon White
02-Apr-02 at 13:34, Dan Boger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 06:24:45PM +, Simon White wrote: > > Do you have anything set for mail_check in your .muttrc? > > yup - "set mail_check = 5" So... let me know how you get on if you lower imap_keepalive and/or if you add the

Re: close IMAP connections

2002-04-02 Thread Dan Boger
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 07:48:18PM +0100, Luke Ross wrote: > Hi, > > > > when I don't access that one folder for a while, and I switch to it > > > (with a macro), I get an error "connection closed" and an empty index. > > > the only thing I could find that would fix this is to quit mutt and > > >

Re: Why is http address attachet to header?

2002-04-02 Thread David DeSimone
Patrik Modesto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I create new message, then to the first empty line under header i > write http://www.something.com and send this mail. This address is > send as a part of email's header and body of this mail is empty. Why? > Is this correct? The other posters on t

Outhouse on Mutt-Users? Was: Re: close IMAP connections

2002-04-02 Thread Simon White
02-Apr-02 at 19:48, Luke Ross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > I use mutt patched with vvv-nntp (I know not now - I'm on holiday on a > strange computer), and if the NNTP connection gets closed it asks if you > want to reconnect, and then continues where it left off - perhaps IMAP can > be patched to

Re: close IMAP connections

2002-04-02 Thread Heiko Heil
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 01:32:01PM -0500, Dan Boger wrote: > _very_ interesting. so while it doesn't help with my current problem > (since the mailbox that's timing out isn't one that's getting polled for ^^^ The same applies for

Re: "update encoding?"

2002-04-02 Thread David DeSimone
Sadiq Al-Lawatia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "~/Mail/tmp/mutt-csce-4803-30 [#1] modified. Update encoding? > ([yes]/no): " This message indicates that the time-stamp on the file has been changed since Mutt last saw you write to the file. That is, when Mutt launches your editor, and your edito

Re: Mutt ignoring 'From ' lines in mailbox

2002-04-02 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 12:46:36PM -0600 I heard the voice of David DeSimone, and lo! it spake thus: > > Mutt chooses to be picker about the "From " syntax because some mailers > don't properly escape a "From " that is inside the body of the message. Well. Mutt doesn't escape "^From " in the bo

Re: close IMAP connections

2002-04-02 Thread David T-G
Dan -- ...and then Dan Boger said... % % On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 12:23:01PM -0600, David Champion wrote: % ... % with the local one... esp since my IMAP server is a P90 with 48M of ram You have 48M? Wow; lucky you. My box at home is only a P60 with 16M :-) HAND :-D -- David T-G

Re: close IMAP connections

2002-04-02 Thread Dan Boger
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 06:57:59PM +, Simon White wrote: > So... let me know how you get on if you lower imap_keepalive and/or if you > add the IMAP folder to your new mail poll... although you'll set > mail_check higher or that poor old P90 might get a bit overworked :) I changed my keepaliv

[OT] Re: close IMAP connections

2002-04-02 Thread Dan Boger
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 02:10:43PM -0500, David T-G wrote: > You have 48M? Wow; lucky you. My box at home is only a P60 with 16M :-) yah, we upgraded after it was too slow acting as a fileserver/dns/dhcp/web server/twiki/cvs/smb master etc... it's actually working quite nice, except that AIDE

How do you search to: header?

2002-04-02 Thread jennyw
I was just wondering how I would search for someone I sent a message to. Using / doesn't help -- that only seems to search subject and from:. Also, is there documentation somewhere on searching? I tried hitting help in mutt, but it doesn't even show that / is a key to hit for searching. Than

Re: How do you search to: header?

2002-04-02 Thread Tim Kennedy
Jen, have you tried using / with ~t? / ~t [EMAIL PROTECTED] should key on mail 'To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'. -tim On Tue, 02 Apr 2002, jennyw wrote: > I was just wondering how I would search for someone I sent a message to. > Using / doesn't help -- that only seems to search subject and from:.

Re: "update encoding?"

2002-04-02 Thread Kyle Rawlins
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 01:04:24PM -0600, David DeSimone wrote: > Sadiq Al-Lawatia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > "~/Mail/tmp/mutt-csce-4803-30 [#1] modified. Update encoding? > > ([yes]/no): " > > So, the mystery here is, why does Mutt think that you're changing the > file behind his back?

Re: "update encoding?"

2002-04-02 Thread Adam Shostack
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 05:02:02PM -0500, Kyle Rawlins wrote: > On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 01:04:24PM -0600, David DeSimone wrote: > > Sadiq Al-Lawatia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > "~/Mail/tmp/mutt-csce-4803-30 [#1] modified. Update encoding? > > > ([yes]/no): " > > > > So, the mystery her

Re: How do you search to: header?

2002-04-02 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky
* jennyw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-04-02 11:53:11 -0800]: > I was just wondering how I would search for someone I sent a message to. > Using / doesn't help -- that only seems to search subject and from:. Look for "Pattern" in the manual. Nicolas

pager-index display

2002-04-02 Thread Natalie Ford
How do i get my mutt to ise pager-index display like i have seen a friend of mine using? I have read man muttrc and man mutt and googled for all of the mutt documentation but cannot find how to set this up anywhere ... TIA for any help... -- Natalie Ford .. [EMAI

Re: pager-index display

2002-04-02 Thread Michael Elkins
Natalie Ford wrote: > How do i get my mutt to ise pager-index display like i have seen > a friend of mine using? I have read man muttrc and man mutt and > googled for all of the mutt documentation but cannot find how to > set this up anywhere ... TIA for any help... see pager_index_lines in the

Re: "update encoding?"

2002-04-02 Thread David DeSimone
Adam Shostack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The client's clock is running a few minutes behind the server. You > write the file at local noon, which the server sets to be 12:03. Mutt > checks the file, sees that its mtime is in the future (12:03 being > later than 12:00), and warns you. I gues

browser menu - add next-new command?

2002-04-02 Thread Sven Guckes
* Bo Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-04-01 23:30]: > > % Tab key is used to "go to next new message" > > % within a mailfolder. Can it jump to new > > % messages of another mailfolder like pine does? I > > % am sorry if I missed something in the manual. > > > > mutt won't go to next-new in another

Re: browser menu - add next-new command?

2002-04-02 Thread Bo Peng
> * Bo Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-04-01 23:30]: > > > % Tab key is used to "go to next new message" > > > % within a mailfolder. Can it jump to new > > > % messages of another mailfolder like pine does? I > > > % am sorry if I missed something in the manual. > > > > > > mutt won't go to next

Re: "update encoding?"

2002-04-02 Thread Sadiq Al-Lawatia
Quoting Kyle Rawlins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I notice that the tmp directory is somewhere under the home directory so could > possibly be nfs mounted - if there is a time skew between the server and the > computer running mutt this could potentially cause problems too. I am having a > hard time ex

Re: "update encoding?"

2002-04-02 Thread Will Yardley
Sadiq Al-Lawatia wrote: > The home directories are indeed nfs mounted. And after a little chat > with the system administrator, it turns out the problem is exactly as > Adam has suggested in his reply about the clocks not running at the > same time. > > So I guess there is nothing I can do, unl

Re: echo $EUID

2002-04-02 Thread Sven Guckes
* Matthew D. Fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-03-27 11:50]: > .. I end up having to work around Solaris' > braindamage in a number of ways. > For instance, on every OTHER OS (including > pre-Solaris-renaming SunOS, HP/UX 9, NeXT Mach), > I can use "id -u" to get the EUID. Solaris? > setenv EU

Re: echo $EUID

2002-04-02 Thread Mark J. Reed
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 05:55:25AM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: > * Matthew D. Fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-03-27 11:50]: > > .. I end up having to work around Solaris' > > braindamage in a number of ways. > > For instance, on every OTHER OS (including > > pre-Solaris-renaming SunOS, HP/UX 9, NeX

Re: echo $EUID

2002-04-02 Thread Mark J. Reed
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 11:27:31PM -0500, Mark J. Reed wrote: > /usr/xpg4/bin/id -u To expand upon this: When SunOS becamse Solaris, its base moved from BSD (Berkeley's UNIX-based OS) to System V (official UNIX from AT&T). For compatibility with System V applications (and with the POSIX standar

Re: close IMAP connections

2002-04-02 Thread Michael Tatge
Dan Boger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: > when I don't access that one folder for a while, and I switch to it > (with a macro), I get an error "connection closed" and an empty index. > the only thing I could find that would fix this is to quit mutt and > start it again - a new connection will then

language-problem

2002-04-02 Thread Heiko Heil
Hello mutt-users, I have compiled mutt v1.3.28i both on my Server (based on SuSE7.1) and on my Laptop (based on SuSE7.3). Now I have noticed that the mutt-version on the server runs in English language and the mutt-version on my laptop in German language. The language-settings (according to loca