Re: Happy Little Vegemite

2000-03-01 Thread Martin Keseg - Sun Slovakia - SE
Mikko Hänninen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > > You can actually get by with *no* .muttrc, pretty much everything in > Mutt has reasonable defaults. When I was starting with mutt I just get Sven's config, edit hostname and headers and run mutt. When I needed to change something I look into docum

Mutt colours in xterm

2000-03-01 Thread Glyn Millington
: The soul is greater than the hum of its parts Hi. I spent a happy half-hour building mutt-1.7.1i last night,(with ncurses) fired it up in console mode - colours as usual - brilliant! Trying it this morning in an x-term I'm reduced to mono. Not a big problem but I like the colours a

Russian charsets and automatic recoding

2000-03-01 Thread Denis Chapligin
Hi How can i make Mutt automaticly recode e-mails from one character set to another one? -- Denis Chapligin

Re: Happy Little Vegemite

2000-03-01 Thread Telsa Gwynne
On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 10:13:41AM +1100 or thereabouts, Chuck Dale wrote: > Wrote Mikko Hänninen on Tue, Feb 29, 2000 at 09:34:37PM +0200: > > If you ask me, I wouldn't use sendmail as a newbie's MTA, the beast is > > not for the faint at heart. > > And the ironic thing is that sendmail is prett

Re: Mutt colours in xterm

2000-03-01 Thread Thomas Roessler
On 2000-03-01 09:01:44 +, Glyn Millington wrote: > Mail-Followup-To: Glyn Millington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Mutt Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Most probably, you want to read README.UPGRADE and change the "lists" settings in your configuration file. ,-) > Trying it this morning in

Re: Mutt colours in xterm

2000-03-01 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 09:01:44AM +, Glyn Millington wrote: > I spent a happy half-hour building mutt-1.7.1i last night,(with ncurses) fired > it up in console mode - colours as usual - brilliant! > > Trying it this morning in an x-term I'm reduced to mono. Not a big problem but > I like th

Re: Russian charsets and automatic recoding

2000-03-01 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Denis Chapligin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > How can i make Mutt automaticly recode e-mails from one character > set to another one? If it's installed properly, it should handle charsets correctly. Do you have a specific problem? I recommend upgrading to 1.0.1, by the way; the only differences betwee

Re: Mutt colours in xterm

2000-03-01 Thread Matthew Hawkins
On 2000-03-01 10:12:00 +0100, Thomas Roessler wrote: > The trick should be using a TERM setting which supports color. On > my Debian system, I'm using TERM=xterm-xf86-v33, and it works nicely. I think TERM=xterm-debian (the default in potato at least) gives colour as well. I usually use the one

Threading Characters

2000-03-01 Thread Chuck Dale
Dear List. Using my favourite terminal font, Clean (Schumacher), the threading arrows are all wrong and turn out as little musical notes etc. This font is installed with the XFree86-75dpi-fonts RPM on my RH6.0 system. Is there any way to use different characters for the threading arrows that w

Re: Threading Characters

2000-03-01 Thread Thomas Roessler
On 2000-03-01 21:45:57 +1100, Chuck Dale wrote: > Using my favourite terminal font, Clean (Schumacher), the > threading arrows are all wrong and turn out as little musical > notes etc. This font is installed with the XFree86-75dpi-fonts > RPM on my RH6.0 system. Funny. Some of the stuff I'm see

Re: Threading Characters

2000-03-01 Thread Thomas Roessler
On 2000-03-01 21:45:57 +1100, Chuck Dale wrote: > Is there any way to use different characters for the threading > arrows that would be more displayable by my font? Even if they > were not as nice as the normal ones. PS: set ascii_chars. -- http://www.guug.de/~roessler/

Re: Threading Characters

2000-03-01 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Chuck Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Using my favourite terminal font, Clean (Schumacher), the threading > arrows are all wrong and turn out as little musical notes etc. This font > is installed with the XFree86-75dpi-fonts RPM on my RH6.0 system. > > Is there any way to use different characters f

Re: Threading Characters

2000-03-01 Thread Chuck Dale
Wrote Thomas Roessler on Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 12:05:34PM +0100: > Funny. Some of the stuff I'm seeing in "Clean" heavily reminds me > of Atari's character set used with their STs, although other things > definately looked different, for instance the shape of the "a". > (Actually, there seems to b

[1.1.7] IMAP segfault

2000-03-01 Thread Thomas Roessler
The attached patch fixes a segmentation fault which would occur when the operates without a Context (this happens, for instance, when you can't connect to an IMAP folder). -- http://www.guug.de/~roessler/ Index: imap/util.c === RC

Re: Happy Little Vegemite

2000-03-01 Thread Chuck Dale
> They *are* settable within the interface. Just type ":set " > (and keep repeating pressing tab until you get to the setting you want > to change). :-) Of course it won't save the settings > > Anyway, all silliness aside, what's different from doing the changes > "within the interface" as

Re: Happy Little Vegemite

2000-03-01 Thread Matthew Hawkins
On 2000-03-01 23:09:22 +1100, Chuck Dale wrote: > > > The problem (as I see it) is that .muttrc goes against the principles > which Mutt is following. Particularly in modularisation. The .muttrc > contains absolutely everything configurable in the program - it defines > the interface (keys, colu

Re: Happy Little Vegemite

2000-03-01 Thread Eugene Lee
On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 11:09:22PM +1100, Chuck Dale wrote: : : : :The problem (as I see it) is that .muttrc goes against the principles :which Mutt is following. Particularly in modularisation. The .muttrc :contains absolutely everything configurable in the program - it defines :the interface (ke

Re: Russian charsets and automatic recoding

2000-03-01 Thread Andrew W. Nosenko
Denis Chapligin wrote: : Hi : : How can i make Mutt automaticly recode e-mails from one character set to another one? I not have any problems with it. Is your `charset' variable set properly? What is your local encoding? What is encoding of recode-failed message (for example)? -- Andrew W. Nos

Re: mutt and mh/procmail

2000-03-01 Thread Conrad Sabatier
On Tue, Feb 29, 2000 at 09:57:05PM -0800, Phil Staub wrote: > > My major questions relate to getting mutt to properly detect the fact > that mail has been newly deposited into mh folders that I have > designated in my .muttrc as mailboxes. I've been getting new mail > reported in folders that are

Re: Happy Little Vegemite

2000-03-01 Thread Thomas Roessler
On 2000-03-01 23:09:22 +1100, Chuck Dale wrote: > One way to make things clearer would be to have sections like > [colors] > [keybindings] > [mailboxes] > [lists] > [folder_hooks] You are completely free to create a set of configuration files, and then source them. For instance, create a very

Re: Happy Little Vegemite

2000-03-01 Thread Chuck Dale
Wrote Matthew Hawkins on Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 11:46:58PM +1100: > On 2000-03-01 23:09:22 +1100, Chuck Dale wrote: > > > > > > The problem (as I see it) is that .muttrc goes against the principles > > which Mutt is following. Particularly in modularisation. The .muttrc > > contains absolutely eve

Re: Happy Little Vegemite

2000-03-01 Thread Chuck Dale
Wrote Eugene Lee on Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 04:50:09AM -0800: > I don't know if this division of labor will work for all but the most > simplest configurations. An example would be a complex set of folder > hooks where colors, key bindings, save hooks, and other settings. > Now imagine you had diffe

Re: Russian charsets and automatic recoding

2000-03-01 Thread Denis Chapligin
Hi On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 02:51:59PM +0200, Andrew W. Nosenko wrote: > : > : How can i make Mutt automaticly recode e-mails from one character set to another >one? > > I not have any problems with it. > Is your `charset' variable set properly? Yes. > What is your local encoding? KOI8-R > What i

Re: mutt and mh/procmail

2000-03-01 Thread Thomas Roessler
On 2000-03-01 07:15:28 -0600, Conrad Sabatier wrote: > Yes, I've noticed that mutt behaves in a rather unreliable > fashion when it comes to this, too. The mh code is far from perfect. It should be fine for converting legacy mh-style folders to something else, but I wouldn't use it in productio

Re: Happy Little Vegemite

2000-03-01 Thread Dave Pearson
On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 11:09:22PM +1100, Chuck Dale wrote: > One way to make things clearer would be to have sections like > [colors] > [keybindings] > [mailboxes] > [lists] > [folder_hooks] This seems to work on the assumption that all ~/.muttrc files are one large monolithic list of settings

Re: Russian charsets and automatic recoding

2000-03-01 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Denis Chapligin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > There is one of message that i can't read with mutt It's in "windows-1251". Presumably your mutt doesn't know about that charset. I think you can tell whether mutt knows about a charset by going to the compose menu and doing ":exec change-charset" on any t

Re: Happy Little Vegemite

2000-03-01 Thread John Franklin
On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 01:53:34PM +0100, Thomas Roessler wrote: > On 2000-03-01 23:09:22 +1100, Chuck Dale wrote: > > > One way to make things clearer would be to have sections like > > > [colors] > > [keybindings] > > [mailboxes] > > [lists] > > [folder_hooks] > > You are completely free to c

Re: checking pop mail in the background

2000-03-01 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Bevan Broun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > fetchmail doesn't require that either (I'm not sure if you were implying > > that it did, or not). And it can also be configured to use an > > ssh-tunnel for the pop-retrieval. > > Yes I did think fetchmail required a local smtp, glad Im wrong. I > might giv

Re: mutt and mh/procmail

2000-03-01 Thread Phil Staub
I wouldn't call my reasons "grave", but I do have a certain amount of preference for MH folders. However, given the benefits of mutt over raw MH, it wouldn't exactly be a show stopper if I couldn't use MH for incoming mail. Thanks for your comments. Phil On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 02:48:48PM +0

Re: mutt and mh/procmail

2000-03-01 Thread Thomas Roessler
On 2000-03-01 09:49:23 -0800, Phil Staub wrote: > I wouldn't call my reasons "grave", but I do have a certain > amount of preference for MH folders. Let me put my question like this: Is it a preference for MH-style folders, or is it a preference for the one-file-per-message folder model? In the

Re: mutt and mh/procmail

2000-03-01 Thread Phil Staub
On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 07:06:42PM +0100, Thomas Roessler wrote: > On 2000-03-01 09:49:23 -0800, Phil Staub wrote: > > > I wouldn't call my reasons "grave", but I do have a certain > > amount of preference for MH folders. > > Let me put my question like this: Is it a preference for MH-style > fo

Re: Russian charsets and automatic recoding

2000-03-01 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 04:52:19PM +, Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote: > It's in "windows-1251". Presumably your mutt doesn't know about that > charset. > > I think you can tell whether mutt knows about a charset by going to > the compose menu and doing ":exec change-charset" on any text part. If

Re: Russian charsets and automatic recoding

2000-03-01 Thread Denis Chapligin
Hi On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 04:52:19PM +, Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote: > > There is one of message that i can't read with mutt > > It's in "windows-1251". Presumably your mutt doesn't know about that > charset. How can i give such knowledge to mutt? > I think you can tell whether mutt knows abo

Re: Russian charsets and automatic recoding

2000-03-01 Thread Denis Chapligin
Hi On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 09:45:14PM +0200, Marius Gedminas wrote: > > knows about a charset. > > > > My mutt does know about windows-1251. I'm using it for the body of > > this message, I think. > > Mine doesn't. Actually, it's not Mutt who doesn't know this charset, > it's my /usr/share/i18n/

Introduction to Maildir (was Re: mutt and mh/procmail)

2000-03-01 Thread Bennett Todd
2000-03-01-13:46:36 Phil Staub: > While I have some legacy MH folders that I would rather not > re-format, I don't have enough knowledge of maildir to have known > that one-file-per-message is possible with it. Looks like some > further study is indicated. Lemme try and give you a running start.

Re: Russian charsets and automatic recoding

2000-03-01 Thread Andrew W. Nosenko
Denis Chapligin wrote: : How you maked this? How can i explain to mutt about cp1251? For stable branch -- only in compile-time. `charset-hook' and so on -- it's from unstable. My recomendation -- switch to 1.1.x. Yes, this is unstable branch, but wery stable in did. Charset handling in this branc

Re: mutt and mh/procmail

2000-03-01 Thread Conrad Sabatier
On 01-Mar-00 Thomas Roessler wrote: > On 2000-03-01 07:15:28 -0600, Conrad Sabatier wrote: > >> Yes, I've noticed that mutt behaves in a rather unreliable >> fashion when it comes to this, too. > > The mh code is far from perfect. It should be fine for converting > legacy mh-style folders to s

Re: mutt and mh/procmail

2000-03-01 Thread Bennett Todd
2000-03-01-20:08:10 Conrad Sabatier: > I'm going to have to look into this "maildir" format, I think. :-) > > By the way, is there a simple way to convert my existing folders > to this format? Within mutt, if you go :set mbox_type="Maildir" (or put that in your .muttrc), mutt will creat

Re: home/end/pageup/pagedown don´t work

2000-03-01 Thread Thomas Ribbrock
On Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 12:43:50AM +0200, Mikko Hänninen wrote: > I've used cat > /dev/null followed by pressing the key, and seeing > which characters get printed. This may or may not work for you... [...] At least under tcsh (haven't tried it under any other shell), it's as easy to simply t

Reading HTML Attachments

2000-03-01 Thread John P. Verel
Hi. I've got mutt loaded with the default mime types and mailcap file that came with the distro and am running under RH 6.1 When I attempt to view attached HTML, I get the following message: sh: syntax error near unexpected token `openURL('' sh: -c: line 1: `netscape -remote openURL('/tmp/AP-A

print_command (a2ps)

2000-03-01 Thread -kevin-
I like using a2ps to do my printing, but I would like to have it use the date/author/subject for some of the footers and headers. Has someone already done this? If so, can you show me your 'print_command' setting? TIA -- -* -kevin-*- -* sick with the good infection *- -*

Re: mutt and mh/procmail

2000-03-01 Thread Doug Wellington
Previously: >> By the way, is there a simple way to convert my existing folders >> to this format? Bennett provided a lot of good code to move files around, but I wonder if it wouldn't just be easier to use nmh's "packf" command to batch convert each of your MH style directories into single mbox

Re: Reading HTML Attachments

2000-03-01 Thread -kevin-
John, On 00-03-01 20:46, John P. Verel wrote: > My mailcap entry looks like this: > > text/html; netscape -remote openURL\(%s\) Change to: text/html; netscape -remote 'openFile(%s)';copiousoutput -- -* -kevin-*- -* sick with the good infection *- -* [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: mutt and mh/procmail

2000-03-01 Thread Bennett Todd
2000-03-01-22:09:44 Doug Wellington: > Bennett provided a lot of good code to move files around, but I wonder > if it wouldn't just be easier to use nmh's "packf" command to batch > convert each of your MH style directories into single mbox style files > and then deal with them that way... If pac

Re: Reading HTML Attachments

2000-03-01 Thread John P. Verel
Kevin, Thanks. Worked like a charm! Now, next project is to be able to "click" on imbeded hyperlinks. The mutt manual (4.12) refers to an external urlview program. I'm unclear what the manual means in referring to macro indexetc. Have you done this? On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 06:58:08PM -

Re: mutt and mh/procmail

2000-03-01 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Bennett Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wed, 01 Mar 2000: > So if you open an MH folder, tag all the messages with > > T~A > > then save them all to a new folder with > > ;snew-folder > > (that's a semicolon, it is the "tag prefix") that will convert the > folder. However, since

Re: Reading HTML Attachments

2000-03-01 Thread Mikko Hänninen
John P. Verel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wed, 01 Mar 2000: > Now, next project is to be able to > "click" on imbeded hyperlinks. The mutt manual (4.12) refers to an > external urlview program. I'm unclear what the manual means in > referring to macro indexetc. Have you done this? The ur

Re: Reading HTML Attachments

2000-03-01 Thread Thomas Roessler
On 2000-03-01 18:58:08 -0800, -kevin- wrote: > Change to: > text/html; netscape -remote 'openFile(%s)';copiousoutput Bad idea. You'd rather want this: text/html; netscape -remote 'openFile('%s')'; copiousoutput Note that the %s itself MUST NOT be enclosed by any form of quoting, beca

Re: mutt and mh/procmail

2000-03-01 Thread Thomas Roessler
On 2000-03-01 19:08:10 -0600, Conrad Sabatier wrote: > By the way, is there a simple way to convert my existing folders > to this format? Just set mbox_type=maildir in mutt, go into an old folder, tag all messages, and apply-save them to a new folder. With the "-e" option, you can even do this