Re: spam harvesting

2002-09-02 Thread Chris Green
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 09:04:32AM -0500, Jeremy Blosser wrote: > On Sep 01, Peter T. Abplanalp [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 04:31:54PM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > > > Yes, but it's much less likely to happen... a spammer would have to go > > > to a lot of effort (compar

Vipul('s Razor) sucks - was Re: [OT] spam harvesting

2002-09-01 Thread Gerhard Häring
* Gerhard Häring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-01 21:27 +0200]: > * Jeremy Blosser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-01 14:13 -0500]: > > Considering that we aren't using any pattern matching, no. (Vipul's is > > checksumming + network query, > > And unusable because its database is filled with too ma

Re: [OT] spam harvesting

2002-09-01 Thread Gerhard Häring
* Jeremy Blosser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-01 14:13 -0500]: > Considering that we aren't using any pattern matching, no. (Vipul's is > checksumming + network query, And unusable because its database is filled with too many wrong submissions, most probably because of clueless users that automa

Re: [OT] spam harvesting

2002-09-01 Thread Jeremy Blosser
On Sep 01, Eugen Leitl [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, Ken Weingold wrote: > > I've been noticing that one too. I'm not familiar with Vipul's or > > TMDA, but Spamassassin has a rule for when the From: and To: are the > > same. > > I think from the ISP mail server admin's point

Re: spam harvesting

2002-09-01 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, Ken Weingold wrote: > On Sat, Aug 31, 2002, Jeremy Blosser wrote: > > No, I will feel chained to my mail servers as people take that attitude, > > which has the nice effect of making it so they don't see the spam in their I didn't realize the guy was arguing from a mail admin

Re: spam harvesting

2002-09-01 Thread Ken Weingold
On Sat, Aug 31, 2002, Jeremy Blosser wrote: > No, I will feel chained to my mail servers as people take that attitude, > which has the nice effect of making it so they don't see the spam in their > inbox, but the mail servers still see it and have to not only deal with it > as normal, but also hav

Re: spam harvesting

2002-09-01 Thread Jeremy Blosser
On Sep 01, Eugen Leitl [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > The problem of spam is easily solvable for technically proficient users. > Depening on your philosophy, install SpamAssassin/Vipul's Razor or a > tagged message delivery system, and set up a few filters on MUA's side. > > Once in a while check

Re: spam harvesting

2002-09-01 Thread 1RmSchlHse
On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, Eugen Leitl wrote: if your kids are young they shouldn't be surfing the net alone. If they're a bit bigger you should educate them, so they can tell shit from shinola on their own. This will help you, and them, especially when you're not there to look over their shoulders. +

Re: spam harvesting

2002-09-01 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, Jeremy Blosser wrote: > (BTW, if anyone thinks calling them "the enemy", etc. is overly > melodramatic, remember that spam in recent years has moved more and > more from printer toner to all manner of pr0n, beastiality, etc. > spams, and many of us are stuck trying to keep our

Re: spam harvesting

2002-09-01 Thread Jeremy Blosser
On Sep 01, Peter T. Abplanalp [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 04:31:54PM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > > Yes, but it's much less likely to happen... a spammer would have to go > > to a lot of effort (comparatively) to sign up for a list like this... > > and spamming a list of l

Re: spam harvesting

2002-09-01 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 04:31:54PM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > Yes, but it's much less likely to happen... a spammer would have to go > to a lot of effort (comparatively) to sign up for a list like this... > and spamming a list of largely technical people would be dumb anyway. i disagree. it wo

Re: spam harvesting

2002-08-31 Thread Jeremy Blosser
On Sep 01, Cameron Simpson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > On 13:44 31 Aug 2002, Jeremy Blosser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | On Aug 31, Aaron Goldblatt [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > | > an fyi so yall know it's happening, my email address used exclusively > | > for mutt-users and mutt-dev has been

Re: spam harvesting

2002-08-31 Thread Jeremy Blosser
On Aug 31, Sven Guckes [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > * Jeremy Blosser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-08-31 18:46]: > > On Aug 31, Aaron Goldblatt [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > > .. my email address used exclusively for mutt-users > > > and mutt-dev has been harvested for spam. i believe i > > > poste

Re: spam harvesting

2002-08-31 Thread jkinz
On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 04:31:54PM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 11:04:21AM -0500, Aaron Goldblatt wrote: > > > > an fyi so yall know it's happening, my email address used exclusively > > > for mutt-users and mutt-dev has been harvested for spa

Re: spam harvesting

2002-08-31 Thread Will Yardley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 11:04:21AM -0500, Aaron Goldblatt wrote: > > an fyi so yall know it's happening, my email address used exclusively > > for mutt-users and mutt-dev has been harvested for spam. i believe i > > posted to mutt-users exactly once, and never to mut

Re: spam harvesting

2002-08-31 Thread jkinz
On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 11:04:21AM -0500, Aaron Goldblatt wrote: > an fyi so yall know it's happening, my email address used exclusively > for mutt-users and mutt-dev has been harvested for spam. i believe i > posted to mutt-users exactly once, and never to mutt-dev. > Hi Aaron, Sorry you got

Re: spam harvesting

2002-08-31 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 13:44 31 Aug 2002, Jeremy Blosser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On Aug 31, Aaron Goldblatt [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: | > an fyi so yall know it's happening, my email address used exclusively | > for mutt-users and mutt-dev has been harvested for spam. i believe i | > posted to mutt-users exa

Re: spam harvesting

2002-08-31 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Sat, 31 Aug 2002 the mental interface of Jeremy Blosser told: > On Aug 31, Aaron Goldblatt [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > an fyi so yall know it's happening, my email address used exclusively > > for mutt-users and mutt-dev has been harvested for spam. i believe i > > posted to mutt-users e

Re: spam harvesting

2002-08-31 Thread Sven Guckes
* Jeremy Blosser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-08-31 18:46]: > On Aug 31, Aaron Goldblatt [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > .. my email address used exclusively for mutt-users > > and mutt-dev has been harvested for spam. i believe i > > posted to mutt-users exactly once, and never to mutt-dev. > > Bla

Re: spam harvesting

2002-08-31 Thread Jeremy Blosser
On Aug 31, Aaron Goldblatt [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > an fyi so yall know it's happening, my email address used exclusively > for mutt-users and mutt-dev has been harvested for spam. i believe i > posted to mutt-users exactly once, and never to mutt-dev. Blame the people that are archiving t

Re: spam harvesting

2002-08-31 Thread Rob Park
Alas! Aaron Goldblatt spake thus: > an fyi so yall know it's happening, my email address used exclusively > for mutt-users and mutt-dev has been harvested for spam. i believe i > posted to mutt-users exactly once, and never to mutt-dev. What did you want us to do about it? Spammers exist, and

Re: spam harvesting and spam whiners

2002-08-31 Thread Sven Guckes
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spam harvesting

2002-08-31 Thread Aaron Goldblatt
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