Re: a concept for spam filter

2012-11-11 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 11Nov2012 09:02, Russell L. Harris wrote: | * Cameron Simpson [121103 09:12]: | > - anything else lands in my "UNKNOWN" folder; it is 99% spam | > I always sort that folder on subject when I visit it; | > it makes tossing it much easier because a lot of spam gets repeated | > in

Re: [POSSIBLE SPAM] Re: a concept for spam filter

2012-11-11 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Cameron Simpson [121103 09:12]: ... > - anything else lands in my "UNKNOWN" folder; it is 99% spam > I always sort that folder on subject when I visit it; > it makes tossing it much easier because a lot of spam gets repeated > in big chunks ... Cameron, I thank you for the detai

Re: a concept for spam filter

2012-11-04 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 04Nov2012 07:31, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: | I see your point. I've not looked into other filtering methods a great | deal but I intend to. Mind you, I don't have many friends so my procmail | rules are pretty basic ATM lol. I'm on a lot of mailing lists, and several have multiple rules. -- C

Re: a concept for spam filter

2012-11-04 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
/ Cameron Simpson wrote on Sun 4.Nov'12 at 9:04:16 +1100 / > It also parses each message header just one on demand, so to test > hundreds of rules the parsing happens only once. And of course the rules > are parsed when I start mailfiler, not for each message. The other > upside of extracting th

Re: a concept for spam filter

2012-11-03 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 03Nov2012 11:03, Russell L. Harris wrote: | I thank you for taking the trouble to give a detailed reply, Cameron. | I have printed it out, and I plan to study it carefully in the | morning. On 03Nov2012 09:53, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: | I just have my mail delivered by smtp so use OpenBSD sp

Re: a concept for spam filter

2012-11-03 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
> | message index of Mutt almost always is rewritten -- sometimes to an > | address from which valid messages may originate -- so I hesitate to > | blacklist such addresses. > > Indeed. > > I've just implemented a script for this (adding a message subject as a > spam fil

Re: a concept for spam filter

2012-11-03 Thread Cameron Simpson
I've just implemented a script for this (adding a message subject as a spam filter rule), and I have this macro: macro index,pager SS "+spool-spam-subj" "delete message as spam by subject" I have arranged that messages saved to "+spool-spam-subj" get the

Re: a concept for spam filter

2012-11-02 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Jamie Paul Griffin [121102 19:36]: > > I have set up macros that bind keys to pass messages to spamassassin > using sa-learn and then puts the message into the spam mailbox. Is > this the type thing you mean? The spam mailbox can later be used to > train spamassassin for future filtering, using

Re: a concept for spam filter

2012-11-02 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
uot;d" key to > mark spam items to be deleted, perhaps by pressing some other key I > could mark spam items to be both deleted and added to a spam filter, > so that neither the same sender nor the same subject line ever again > would clutter my screen. > > RLH I have

a concept for spam filter

2012-11-02 Thread Russell L. Harris
mark spam items to be both deleted and added to a spam filter, so that neither the same sender nor the same subject line ever again would clutter my screen. RLH

Re: Which spam filter do you use?

2007-10-05 Thread M. Fioretti
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 09:47:26 AM -0500, Kyle Wheeler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Friday, October 5 at 04:02 PM, quoth M. Fioretti: > > 0) Do I have a flat rate fast connection, where I wouldn't notice SA > > contactly doing network checks? > > Indeed! Not all solutions are perfect for all

Re: Which spam filter do you use?

2007-10-05 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, October 5 at 05:14 PM, quoth Holger Weiss: >> As for impact, it chunks through on the order of 5000 emails a day, >> of which over 86% is spam (according to my logs), and I think the >> last time I got a message that was incorrectly class

Re: Which spam filter do you use?

2007-10-05 Thread Holger Weiss
* Kyle Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-05 09:38]: > I will say, though, it is true that SpamAssassin is really slow, but > not for the reason many people claim. My claim is that spamd requires an order of magnitude more CPU and memory ressources than Bogofilter and others do. Of course, that

Re: Which spam filter do you use?

2007-10-05 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, October 5 at 04:02 PM, quoth M. Fioretti: > 0) Do I have a flat rate fast connection, where I wouldn't notice SA > contactly doing network checks? Indeed! Not all solutions are perfect for all situations. > 1) after the whole message ha

Re: Which spam filter do you use?

2007-10-05 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, October 5 at 01:22 PM, quoth Eyolf Østrem: > So this does in fact mean that without that extra time tending the > rules, SA may actually let more spam through? As in most cases, the answer is "it depends". It *may* let more spam through

Re: Which spam filter do you use?

2007-10-05 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 05.10.2007 (15:30), Holger Weiss wrote: > * eyolf østrem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-05 13:22]: > > It's not that I'm dissatisfied with my current situation. My #1 > > concern is actually with false negatives; I've since long given up > > browsing through the CapturedSpam folder to check for

Re: Which spam filter do you use?

2007-10-05 Thread Holger Weiss
* Christian Kuka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-05 07:56]: > I also read from a scanner called "crm114" in the linux magazine that > should be realy good, but never checked that. I use OSBF-Lua[1] which is a port of CRM114. It's a Bayesian classifier which uses a more sophisticated algorithm than B

Re: Which spam filter do you use?

2007-10-05 Thread M. Fioretti
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 02:08:26 AM -0500, Kyle Wheeler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Bah; SpamAssassin is the swiss-army-knife of spam filters. It includes > a bayesian filter (not to mention things like razor and dcc, which are > constantly up-to-date), and as such, does not require updating the

Re: Which spam filter do you use?

2007-10-05 Thread M. Fioretti
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 14:48:09 PM +0200, Michal Vitecek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > hi, > > Eyolf ?strem wrote: > >I've been using bogofilter ever since I first installed KDE/Kmail and the > >potentially hassle-free configuration of SpamAssassin led to constant > >crashes. I belive it has been s

Re: Which spam filter do you use?

2007-10-05 Thread Holger Weiss
* M. Fioretti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-05 08:19]: > On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 07:56:44 AM +0200, Christian Kuka ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote: > > At the moment I'm using bogofilter, razor, pyzor, dcc, spamassassin > > and clamassassin and the following procmail rules: > > This (cascading several fi

Re: Which spam filter do you use?

2007-10-05 Thread Holger Weiss
accuracy highly depends on good training, though. It's critical to not only train Bogofilter with misclassified messages but also with messages it's unsure about. Fine-tuning the configuration might also increase Bogofilter's accuracy[*]. IMO, SpamAssassin is only useful if

Re: Which spam filter do you use?

2007-10-05 Thread Michal Vitecek
hi, Eyolf ?strem wrote: >I've been using bogofilter ever since I first installed KDE/Kmail and the >potentially hassle-free configuration of SpamAssassin led to constant >crashes. I belive it has been solved by now, and in any case Kmail is >ancient history, but I was wondering what experiences t

Re: Which spam filter do you use?

2007-10-05 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 05.10.2007 (02:08), Kyle Wheeler wrote: > On Friday, October 5 at 08:06 AM, quoth M. Fioretti: > >Besides some MTA-level filtering, I am using bogo instead of > >spamassassin because of one simple reason: lack of maintenance. > > > >I've read several times that SA rules must be constantly updat

Re: Which spam filter do you use?

2007-10-05 Thread Michael Tatge
* On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 M. Fioretti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: > On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 14:25:43 PM +0800, Wilkinson, Alex wrote: > Another approach, valid also on Imap and compatible with webmail, is > to just move all the spam missed by bogofilter in a predefined with a > macro, When imap is inv

Re: Which spam filter do you use?

2007-10-05 Thread M. Fioretti
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 14:25:43 PM +0800, Wilkinson, Alex wrote: > Have you got any documents describing the process of integrating > bogofilter with mutt ? I just used these: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6439 http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7436 Another approach, valid also on Imap and

Re: Which spam filter do you use?

2007-10-05 Thread M. Fioretti
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 07:56:44 AM +0200, Christian Kuka ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > At the moment I'm using bogofilter, razor, pyzor, dcc, spamassassin > and clamassassin and the following procmail rules: This (cascading several filters, lightest to heaviest) is what inmy other reply I said I'

Re: Which spam filter do you use?

2007-10-05 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, October 5 at 08:06 AM, quoth M. Fioretti: >Besides some MTA-level filtering, I am using bogo instead of >spamassassin because of one simple reason: lack of maintenance. > >I've read several times that SA rules must be constantly updated and

Re: Which spam filter do you use?

2007-10-04 Thread Wilkinson, Alex
0n Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 08:06:55AM +0200, M. Fioretti wrote: >On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 00:23:06 AM +0200, Eyolf Østrem >([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >> So, should I switch? I'm quite happy with bogo, especially with the >> current setup with some macros I borrowed from an arti

Re: Which spam filter do you use?

2007-10-04 Thread M. Fioretti
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 00:23:06 AM +0200, Eyolf Østrem ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > So, should I switch? I'm quite happy with bogo, especially with the > current setup with some macros I borrowed from an article in linux > journal (I think it was), but I would very much like to hear what > your expe

Re: Which spam filter do you use?

2007-10-04 Thread Christian Kuka
Hi, Thus wrote Eyolf Østrem ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [07.10.05 06:54]: > I've been using bogofilter ever since I first installed KDE/Kmail and the > potentially hassle-free configuration of SpamAssassin led to constant > crashes. I belive it has been solved by now, and in any case Kmail is > ancient hi

Re: Which spam filter do you use?

2007-10-04 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, October 5 at 12:23 AM, quoth Eyolf Østrem: >So, should I switch? I'm quite happy with bogo If you're satisfied with your current spam prevention technique, there's absolutely no reason to switch. At best, you'll get fewer spams. If the s

Which spam filter do you use?

2007-10-04 Thread Eyolf Østrem
I've been using bogofilter ever since I first installed KDE/Kmail and the potentially hassle-free configuration of SpamAssassin led to constant crashes. I belive it has been solved by now, and in any case Kmail is ancient history, but I was wondering what experiences the list people have with vario

Re: spam filter

2002-08-16 Thread Mike Erickson
* Andre Berger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > * Rob 'Feztaa' Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 2002-07-29 19:08 -0400: > > Alas! Andre Berger spake thus: > > > By the way, what would an exmaple > > > procmail rule to add a sender to the spamassassin blacklist look > > > like? Read `perldoc Mail::SpamAssasU

Re: spam filter

2002-08-16 Thread Andre Berger
* Rob 'Feztaa' Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 2002-07-29 19:08 -0400: > Alas! Andre Berger spake thus: > > By the way, what would an exmaple > > procmail rule to add a sender to the spamassassin blacklist look > > like? > > Probably something along the lines of this (but I'm a little rusty; > the flag

Re: spam filter

2002-07-29 Thread Rob Reid
At 4:49 PM EDT on July 29 Rob 'Feztaa' Park sent off: > Alas! Andre Berger spake thus: > > By the way, what would an exmaple ^^ It's not mutt, but since I don't have time to read the procmail list... > > procmail rule to add a sender to the spamassassin blacklist look > > like? > >

Re: spam filter

2002-07-29 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
--gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Andre Berger spake thus: > By the way, what would an exmaple > procmail rule to add a sender to the spamassassin blacklist look > like? Probably something

Re: spam filter

2002-07-29 Thread Andre Berger
--MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Rob 'Feztaa' Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 2002-07-29 00:31 -0400: > Alas! Iain Truskett spake thus: > > * Patrick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [29 Jul 2002 12:02]: > > > *

Re: spam filter

2002-07-28 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
Alas! Iain Truskett spake thus: > * Patrick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [29 Jul 2002 12:02]: > > * Andre Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [07-28-02 20:46]: > [...] > > This would be better accomplished by procmail, since this is one of > > it's intended uses. Use mutt to read/respond to email. > > If one is a

Re: spam filter

2002-07-28 Thread Iain Truskett
* Patrick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [29 Jul 2002 12:02]: > * Andre Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [07-28-02 20:46]: [...] > This would be better accomplished by procmail, since this is one of > it's intended uses. Use mutt to read/respond to email. If one is adding to a kill file, I personally would prefe

Re: spam filter

2002-07-28 Thread Patrick
* Andre Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [07-28-02 20:46]: > Hi! > > I wonder if it is posssible to have mutt execute a command based on > spam subject lines created by spamassassin to automatically add the > corresponding email addresses to a "shared" kill file of mine? This would be better accomplis

spam filter

2002-07-28 Thread Andre Berger
--RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi! I wonder if it is posssible to have mutt execute a command based on spam subject lines created by spamassassin to automatically add the corresponding email addresses to a "shared" kill file of mine? -

Re: Offline SPAM-filter with mutt?

2002-02-21 Thread Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri.
On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Marco Fioretti wrote: > Hello, Hi ! > > I've been following this discussion with great interest, and looked > (very shortly, I confess) to the tools that were mentioned. I have the > impression that they require you to be online to work. Do they still > work if you dial up,

Re: Offline SPAM-filter with mutt?

2002-02-20 Thread Justin R. Miller
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Said Marco Fioretti on Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 12:28:19AM +0100: > I've been following this discussion with great interest, and looked > (very shortly, I confess) to the tools that were mentioned. I have the > impression that they require you to be onli

Offline SPAM-filter with mutt?

2002-02-20 Thread Marco Fioretti
Hello, I've been following this discussion with great interest, and looked (very shortly, I confess) to the tools that were mentioned. I have the impression that they require you to be online to work. Do they still work if you dial up, run fetchmail and hang off immediately via scripts? OR maybe

Re: SPAM-filter with mutt

2002-02-20 Thread Tony Godshall
On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 02:22:08AM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > Mark J. Reed wrote: > > > If you're not comfortable digging around your Perl install > > and manually tweaking files, I recommend looking elsewhere. > > hrmm... i found it fairly easy to install - perl Makefile.pl ; make ; > make in

Re: SPAM-filter with mutt

2002-02-20 Thread Mark J. Reed
On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 02:22:08AM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > hrmm... i found it fairly easy to install - perl Makefile.pl ; make ; > make install. Yup. That part worked fine. Passed all the tests, etc. > you need to setup your own copies of the config and user prefs files, > which is perhaps

Re: SPAM-filter with mutt

2002-02-19 Thread David Rock
On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 10:56:59AM +0100, Thorsten Haude wrote: > > * Jobst Landgrebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-02-18 14:10]: > >I'm looking for a SPAMfilter that I could combine with mutt. Does anyone > >have a good suggestion which filter is easy to setup together with mutt > >and how this must b

Re: SPAM-filter with mutt

2002-02-19 Thread Will Yardley
Mark J. Reed wrote: > If you're not comfortable digging around your Perl install > and manually tweaking files, I recommend looking elsewhere. hrmm... i found it fairly easy to install - perl Makefile.pl ; make ; make install. you need to setup your own copies of the config and user prefs files

Re: SPAM-filter with mutt

2002-02-19 Thread Tony Godshall
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 09:01:46AM -0600, johnathan spectre wrote: > Some people have mentioned spamassassin, you could also try Razor at >. Pretty simple to set up, requires perl and procmail >to be useful, includes documentation for getting it to work with mutt fo

Re: SPAM-filter with mutt

2002-02-19 Thread Mark J. Reed
Well, I tried Spam Assassin, but have yet to get it to work. It installed its files in one directory tree, but looks for them in a completely different one. The test works great when run from the build directory, with all the files it needs in $PWD, but from any other directory it can't find its

Re: SPAM-filter with mutt

2002-02-19 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * Jobst Landgrebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-02-18 14:10]: >I'm looking for a SPAMfilter that I could combine with mutt. Does anyone >have a good suggestion which filter is easy to setup together with mutt >and how this must be done? Is there a filter one can call from the >.muttrc-file? Sorry f

Re: SPAM-filter with mutt

2002-02-19 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * Jobst Landgrebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-02-18 14:10]: >I'm looking for a SPAMfilter that I could combine with mutt. Does anyone >have a good suggestion which filter is easy to setup together with mutt >and how this must be done? Is there a filter one can call from the >.muttrc-file? You sho

Re: SPAM-filter with mutt

2002-02-18 Thread Artem Okounev
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 02:10:52PM +0100, Jobst Landgrebe wrote: > I'm looking for a SPAMfilter that I could combine with mutt. Does anyone > have a good suggestion which filter is easy to setup together with mutt > and how this must be done? Is there a filter one can call from the > .muttrc-file

Re: SPAM-filter with mutt

2002-02-18 Thread Justin R. Miller
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Said Jobst Landgrebe on Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 02:10:52PM +0100: > I'm looking for a SPAMfilter that I could combine with mutt. Does > anyone have a good suggestion which filter is easy to setup together > with mutt and how this must be done? Is there

Re: SPAM-filter with mutt

2002-02-18 Thread Thomas Huemmler
* Jobst Landgrebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02/02/18 15:00]: > I'm looking for a SPAMfilter that I could combine with mutt. Does anyone Spamblock (http://www.belwue.de/wwwservices/hilfestellungen/spamblock.html) or (ftp://ftp.belwue.de/belwue/software/spamblock) works fine for me. Thomas -- Thomas

Re: SPAM-filter with mutt

2002-02-18 Thread Mads Martin Jørgensen
* Jobst Landgrebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Feb 18. 2002 14:59]: > Dear List, > > I'm looking for a SPAMfilter that I could combine with mutt. Does anyone > have a good suggestion which filter is easy to setup together with mutt > and how this must be done? Is there a filter one can call from the > .m

Re: SPAM-filter with mutt

2002-02-18 Thread Gerhard Siegesmund
> I'm looking for a SPAMfilter that I could combine with mutt. Does anyone > have a good suggestion which filter is easy to setup together with mutt > and how this must be done? Is there a filter one can call from the > .muttrc-file? I think it can't be done alone with mutt, as mutt is just a pro

SPAM-filter with mutt

2002-02-18 Thread Jobst Landgrebe
Dear List, I'm looking for a SPAMfilter that I could combine with mutt. Does anyone have a good suggestion which filter is easy to setup together with mutt and how this must be done? Is there a filter one can call from the .muttrc-file? Thanks in advance, Jobst Dr. Jobst Landgrebe AG Wurst (Mo