>> I have set up IMAP gmail with Thunderbird and wondered about POP and
>> SMTP. Gmail has an odd way of handling IMAP which i'm not sure about.
>> Using as webmail Gmail has an Inbox, Sent and All Mail box - when
>> using Thunderbird in IMAP all incoming mail remains in the Inbox, then
>> has to b
On 26Feb2009 10:41, I wrote:
| On 25Feb2009 23:04, James Freer wrote:
| An X11 geometry has the form:
| DXxDY+PX+PY
Oh yes: you can leave off the DXxDY or +PX+PY parts if you only care
about the position or size respectively, so 80x24 and +5-6 are valid.
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Cameron Simpson DoD#743
http://www.
On 25Feb2009 23:04, James Freer wrote:
| Many thanks for that. That did work but i changed it as i like vim
| [with no menu] as opposed to gvim. I like a bare screen!
|
| gnome-terminal --hide-menubar --geometry 200x60+200+200 -e vim %t
|
| I wanted to learn about the syntax for geometry but man
2009/2/22 Chris G :
> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:45:50AM +, James Freer wrote:
>> 2009/2/22 James Freer :
>> > 2009/2/22 Chris G :
>> >> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:39:05AM +0800, bill lam wrote:
>> >>> On Sat, 21 Feb 2009, James Freer wrote:
>> >>> > some v.clever person has developed an extern
* Gary Johnson on Monday, February 23, 2009 at 08:41:28 -0800
> According to the www.meriam-webster.com entry for hyphen (noun),
www.merriam-webster.com
SCNR
But don't worry, they have a redirect rule for /your/ address ;-)
c
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On 2009-02-23, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 10:19:33AM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote:
> > On 2009-02-21, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:55:00AM -0500, Noah Sheppard wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:44:45AM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
> > > > > [..]
On 23Feb2009 10:21, Chris G wrote:
| On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 03:58:52PM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote:
| > On 22Feb2009 10:45, James Freer wrote:
| > | I've just been looking at mozex. the "xterm -e vim %t" that one enters
| > | for the editor leaves one with a small font. I hoped "xterm -fs 16 -e
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 03:58:52PM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> On 22Feb2009 10:45, James Freer wrote:
> | I've just been looking at mozex. the "xterm -e vim %t" that one enters
> | for the editor leaves one with a small font. I hoped "xterm -fs 16 -e
> | vim %t" might improve things. How can o
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 10:19:33AM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote:
> On 2009-02-21, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:55:00AM -0500, Noah Sheppard wrote:
> > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:44:45AM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
> > > > [..]
> > > > Of course, now we're getting into pedant
On 22Feb2009 10:45, James Freer wrote:
| I've just been looking at mozex. the "xterm -e vim %t" that one enters
| for the editor leaves one with a small font. I hoped "xterm -fs 16 -e
| vim %t" might improve things. How can one get over this?
The best way is to edit your .Xdefaults file to add su
On 22Feb2009 10:20, James Freer wrote:
| 2009/2/22 Chris G :
| > On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:39:05AM +0800, bill lam wrote:
| >> On Sat, 21 Feb 2009, James Freer wrote:
| >> > some v.clever person has developed an external editor addon instead of
| >> > the TB editor. It allows emacs, vi, joe, gedi
2009/2/22 Chris G :
> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:45:50AM +, James Freer wrote:
>> 2009/2/22 James Freer :
>> > 2009/2/22 Chris G : xvile -geometry 200x60+200+200 %t
>> >> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:39:05AM +0800, bill lam wrote:
>> >>> On Sat, 21 Feb 2009, James Freer wrote:
>> >>> > some v.cle
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:45:50AM +, James Freer wrote:
> 2009/2/22 James Freer :
> > 2009/2/22 Chris G :
> >> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:39:05AM +0800, bill lam wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 21 Feb 2009, James Freer wrote:
> >>> > some v.clever person has developed an external editor addon instead of
2009/2/22 James Freer :
> 2009/2/22 Chris G :
>> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:39:05AM +0800, bill lam wrote:
>>> On Sat, 21 Feb 2009, James Freer wrote:
>>> > some v.clever person has developed an external editor addon instead of
>>> > the TB editor. It allows emacs, vi, joe, gedit or whatever to com
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009, James Freer wrote:
> 'ItsallText' i haven't got working somehow. For gmail one has got to
> do a bash script from what i can gather. Mozex is fine for me and is
I just used gvim and that worked for me although I rarely use firefox
now.
--
regards,
===
2009/2/22 Chris G :
> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:39:05AM +0800, bill lam wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Feb 2009, James Freer wrote:
>> > some v.clever person has developed an external editor addon instead of
>> > the TB editor. It allows emacs, vi, joe, gedit or whatever to compose
>> > emails. Should be of
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:39:05AM +0800, bill lam wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Feb 2009, James Freer wrote:
> > some v.clever person has developed an external editor addon instead of
> > the TB editor. It allows emacs, vi, joe, gedit or whatever to compose
> > emails. Should be of interest to anyone who wa
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009, James Freer wrote:
> some v.clever person has developed an external editor addon instead of
> the TB editor. It allows emacs, vi, joe, gedit or whatever to compose
> emails. Should be of interest to anyone who wants to say goodbye to
> the mouse while editing emails.
There is
2009/2/21 Brian Salter-Duke :
> On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 07:56:47PM +, James Freer wrote:
>> Thank you for your help and comments. Just to recap i had wanted to
>> use a text editor to speed up answering emails and considered Mutt and
>> Emacs. I had used Thunderbird for sometime and liked the a
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 07:56:47PM +, James Freer wrote:
> Thank you for your help and comments. Just to recap i had wanted to
> use a text editor to speed up answering emails and considered Mutt and
> Emacs. I had used Thunderbird for sometime and liked the app. A text
> email client seemed th
Thank you for your help and comments. Just to recap i had wanted to
use a text editor to speed up answering emails and considered Mutt and
Emacs. I had used Thunderbird for sometime and liked the app. A text
email client seemed the answer but i wasn't that impressed by Mutt.
However, i'm not as kn
On 2009-02-21, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:55:00AM -0500, Noah Sheppard wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:44:45AM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
> > > [..]
> > > Of course, now we're getting into pedantry, and kinda off track. :)
> >
> > We are computer geeks; pedantry is
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:55:00AM -0500, Noah Sheppard wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:44:45AM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
> > [..]
> > Of course, now we're getting into pedantry, and kinda off track. :)
>
> We are computer geeks; pedantry is never off-track.
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 08:36:01AM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
> Even today an MTA is needed for hosts that have special uses.
> Firewalls, etc. On these machines there are a bunch of daemon
> processes, which can get into trouble, and need to be able to call for
> help. On Debian, and likely othe
2009/2/16 James Freer :
>> Of course, now we're getting into pedantry, and kinda off track. :)
>>
>> ~Kyle
>
> Yea sure. I've been trying to learn my way through this. Now that exim
> appears to be a default install and maildrop has dependencies on exim.
> I'll be installing maildrop shortly and ho
> Of course, now we're getting into pedantry, and kinda off track. :)
>
> ~Kyle
Yea sure. I've been trying to learn my way through this. Now that exim
appears to be a default install and maildrop has dependencies on exim.
I'll be installing maildrop shortly and hopefully end up with the mutt
insta
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:44:45AM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
> [..]
> Of course, now we're getting into pedantry, and kinda off track. :)
We are computer geeks; pedantry is never off-track.
http://xkcd.com/386/
Cheers,
--
Noah Sheppard
Assistant Computer Resource Manager
Taylor University CSE
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On Monday, February 16 at 12:09 PM, quoth James Freer:
>Kyle
>
>> You mean procmail, not postfix, right? Procmail *APPEARS* easier, but
>> has some massive problems with error handling (see
>
>No assuming Ubuntu Linux by Von Hagan is correct.
You said
On 2009-02-15_13:13:09, Brandon Sandrowicz wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 06:41:46PM +, James Freer wrote:
...snip...
> Exim is part of the default install because in the olden days all of
> your email was delivered to the 'mail spool' (usually
> /var/mail/$USERNAME or /var/spool/mail/$USERN
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 06:21:47PM -0600, Derek Martin wrote:
>
> FWIW, the statement is correct as stated. A statement which is
> phrased as an absolute which is not always true is false (i.e. not
> true).
>
Derek has accumulated enough clarity points to win his pedant pendant
for the year 200
Kyle
> You mean procmail, not postfix, right? Procmail *APPEARS* easier, but
> has some massive problems with error handling (see
No assuming Ubuntu Linux by Von Hagan is correct.
examples [if i've learnt anything!]
MTA [mail transfer agent] - sendmail, postfix, qmail, exim, mstmp
MDA [mail de
Brandon
> Are you wanting to do filtering beyond what you are doing with Gmail's
> filtering? Or are you trying to subvert the web interface altogether?
> This matters to answering your question.
Sorry i think i might have slightly misled your thinking and should clarify.
a] I want to use mutt
On 2009-02-15, Brandon Sandrowicz wrote:
> Gmail uses TLS over SMTP (TLS is just a way to start an SSL
> connection over a normal connection, as opposed to using a
> completely separate port for SSL-only connections).
No, that's not what TLS is. TLS is the encryption standard
that superceded th
2009/2/15 Agathoklis D. Hatzimanikas :
>> On Sunday, February 15 at 06:41 PM, quoth James Freer:
>> >esmtp [poor documentation not SSL
>
> Not true, if libesmtp is linked against openssl. Also it supports
> multiply accounts and the documentation is quite decent.
>
> http://esmtp.sourceforge.net/ma
On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 06:41:46PM +, James Freer wrote:
> Jan
>
> > I don't know about synaptic. But using "apt-get install mutt"
> > exim4 was installed automatically with mutt on my sytem. i was using exim
> >
> > what should I learn from this? better building mutt from the source?
>
> {Us
> On Sunday, February 15 at 06:41 PM, quoth James Freer:
> >esmtp [poor documentation not SSL
Not true, if libesmtp is linked against openssl. Also it supports
multiply accounts and the documentation is quite decent.
http://esmtp.sourceforge.net/manual.html
Regards,
Ag.
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On Sunday, February 15 at 06:41 PM, quoth James Freer:
>a] re: exim I don't think so! On my main PC [as opposed to my test PC
>which is where i'm trying out mutt first] Exim is a DEFAULT install.
>From synaptic mutt installs without any dependencies wh
Jan
> I don't know about synaptic. But using "apt-get install mutt"
> exim4 was installed automatically with mutt on my sytem. i was using exim
>
> what should I learn from this? better building mutt from the source?
{Using Ubuntu 8.04
I wanted to use mutt for coping with my mail for three email
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 04:15:30PM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
> On Friday, February 13 at 10:33 PM, quoth sigi:
> > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 03:06:49PM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
> >> Collecting email from multiple accounts is what programs like
> >> fetchmail or getmail do best. I recommend getmai
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On Sunday, February 15 at 01:20 PM, quoth Jan-Herbert Damm:
> everything would have been a lot simpler had i known about mutts
> smtp feature.
>
> what should I learn from this? better building mutt from the source?
I guess I'd take away from it that
hello,
i was surprised to read that mutt can handle smtp-sending on its own now.
because i also had to fiddle with msmtp (which is rather simple).
> So just install mutt on it's own - there don't seem to be any
> dependencies according to synaptic.
I don't know about synaptic. But using "apt-get
2009/2/13 Kyle Wheeler :
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> On Friday, February 13 at 10:33 PM, quoth sigi:
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 03:06:49PM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
>>> Collecting email from multiple accounts is what programs like
>>> fetchmail or getmail do best. I recom
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 04:15:30PM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
> On Friday, February 13 at 10:33 PM, quoth sigi:
> > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 03:06:49PM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
> >> Collecting email from multiple accounts is what programs like
> >> fetchmail or getmail do best. I recommend getmai
Noah Sheppard wrote:
[..]
well too. The only thing with them is: they will pull your email to
your computer and delete it from the server. You won't be able to read
email with the webmail frontend anymore; you'll have to use something
on your own computer.
Run fetchmail with the -k switch or
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On Friday, February 13 at 10:33 PM, quoth sigi:
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 03:06:49PM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
>> Collecting email from multiple accounts is what programs like
>> fetchmail or getmail do best. I recommend getmail, but fetchmail works
On 2009-02-13, James Freer wrote:
> Kyle
>
> Thanks for your reply - that has helped clarify some things. Ubuntu
> 8.04 repos has the mutt 1.5.17 [but as the 8.04 version is the Long
> Term Support version it may well automatically replace it with the
> updated version on install].
>>> I have thre
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 03:06:49PM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
> Collecting email from multiple accounts is what programs like
> fetchmail or getmail do best. I recommend getmail, but fetchmail works
> well too. The only thing with them is: they will pull your email to
> your computer and delete
> [..]
> well too. The only thing with them is: they will pull your email to
> your computer and delete it from the server. You won't be able to read
> email with the webmail frontend anymore; you'll have to use something
> on your own computer.
Run fetchmail with the -k switch or set keep on y
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On Friday, February 13 at 07:44 PM, quoth James Freer:
>>> I have three emails addresses with googlemail.com
>> Ah, fun.
> Does that mean considerable stress and grief??
Maybe. Gmail's IMAP support is a little weird. There are ways of
working around
Kyle
Thanks for your reply - that has helped clarify some things. Ubuntu
8.04 repos has the mutt 1.5.17 [but as the 8.04 version is the Long
Term Support version it may well automatically replace it with the
updated version on install].
>> I have three emails addresses with googlemail.com
>
> Ah,
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On Friday, February 13 at 05:37 PM, quoth James Freer:
> I'd be grateful if someone could just clarify a couple of things
> before i do an installation.
I can try! :)
> using Ubuntu 8.04 on a standalone PC connected to broadband. I chose
> Mutt as
I'd be grateful if someone could just clarify a couple of things
before i do an installation.
using Ubuntu 8.04 on a standalone PC connected to broadband.
I chose Mutt as i can use vim as an editor and hopefully will be able
to reply to emails from my many yahoogroups and mail lists rather more
qu
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