Re: mutt sucks... II

2002-10-20 Thread David Rock
* Mike Leone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-10-20 15:36]: > > Tag all the ones you want saved (with the ";" key), then save them. To be potentially clearer... Tag all messages you want to save (move) with "t", then hit ";" to start the "perform on tagged items" operation. Next, hit "s" to save the me

Re: mutt sucks... II

2002-10-20 Thread Mike Leone
Payal ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote this on 10 20, 02 at 14:52: > Hi, > Great to receive mails from you all. > > use the s (save) command. this will give you a prompt where you can specify > got it. works beautifully, but can I do multiple saves at a same time? Tag all the ones you want saved (with t

Re: mutt sucks... II

2002-10-20 Thread David Obwaller
On Sun, Oct 20, 2002 at 02:21:55PM +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [...] > > 1. Please tell a plain answer ;-), if I have a files like Mail/inbox, > Mail/friends. I get maildrop to do filtering. Now if I go to Mail/inbox > and find that a particular mail should have gone to Mail/friends, how do

mutt sucks... II

2002-10-20 Thread payal
Hi all, I have just started using mutt maily cos' all email clients sucks and mutt sucks less. I wanted an email client on console and mutt was one. For me an email client is an email client and i don't want to spend hours learning it. It should just send my mails, filter mail

Re: mutt sucks... II

2002-10-20 Thread Peter Harkins
On Sun, Oct 20, 2002 at 02:21:55PM +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 1. Please tell a plain answer ;-), if I have a files like Mail/inbox, > Mail/friends. I get maildrop to do filtering. Now if I go to Mail/inbox > and find that a particular mail should have gone to Mail/friends, how do > i MOVE it

Re: mutt sucks...

2002-10-20 Thread Patrick
* Jacek Wojaczynski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [10-19-02 14:32]: > > Well... I'm pretty sure I have more questions, but I can't remember > all of them now. > I'm sure that you would probably find more questions and, perhaps, even a few answers to your questions if you RTFM. You might even get some hel

Re: mutt sucks...

2002-10-19 Thread Markus Hubig
On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: > On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 09:29:37PM +0200, Jacek Wojaczynski > wrote: > > > 3. In The Bat! I had a filter which colored all replies to > > my mails. It based on References: header and my unique > > Message-ID. Possible in mutt? > > Dunno. Probably.

Re: mutt sucks...

2002-10-19 Thread Gregor Zattler
Hi Jacek, * Jacek Wojaczynski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [19. Okt. 2002]: [...] > 3. In The Bat! I had a filter which colored all replies to my mails. > It based on References: header and my unique Message-ID. > Possible in mutt? color index default color7 '~h "^references:[[:blank:]].*pit.id-43118.user

Re: mutt sucks...

2002-10-19 Thread -dsr-
Jacek Wojaczynski wrote: > 4. Folders - it really sucks! I even cannot see how many read/unread > messages there are in a particular folder if I don't enter it... Sounds like you haven't listed your mailboxes in .muttrc: mailboxes ! mailboxes =mutt =procmail-user =linux-kernel =vim-user mailboxe

Re: mutt sucks...

2002-10-19 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 23:02:15 +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: > On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 09:29:37PM +0200, Jacek Wojaczynski wrote: > > 3. In The Bat! I had a filter which colored all replies to my mails. > > It based on References: header and my unique Message-ID. > > Possible in mutt? > > Dunno

Re: mutt sucks...

2002-10-19 Thread Lars Heiermann
* Jacek Wojaczynski: > 3. In The Bat! I had a filter which colored all replies to my mails. > It based on References: header and my unique Message-ID. > Possible in mutt? you can use patterns for 'color index', refer to man muttrc for details on that. > 7. C - copies messages to a different fol

Re: mutt sucks...

2002-10-19 Thread Colin Keefe
* Jacek Wojaczynski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-10-19 21:29:37 +0200]: > "All mail clients suck. This one just sucks less." :-) > > I'm new to the list and wanted to say "Hi!" to everybody. > Me too. Imagine my consternation when the *first* message I s

Re: mutt sucks...

2002-10-19 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 09:29:37PM +0200, Jacek Wojaczynski wrote: > Headers to hide: > > !X-Mime > !X-MSMail > !X-Priority > !X-Complaints > > So I could see all important to me X-headers and hide those stupid > ones... > > Possible in mutt? Of course, and even better: ignore * unignore date

mutt sucks...

2002-10-19 Thread Jacek Wojaczynski
"All mail clients suck. This one just sucks less." :-) I'm new to the list and wanted to say "Hi!" to everybody. I'm also new to mutt, vim and even Linux. Previously I used to handle all my mail under Windows. The program of my choice was The Bat! - IMHO the best mail client for Windows. OK. Enou

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-09 Thread David T-G
Volker -- ...and then Volker Moell said... % % David T-G wrote: % > % > . % > % > to tag 'em all, hit esc-P for 'em, and then untag? % % Great, thanks! I should think more in macros. :-) No problem :-) % % But while trying out this ferature I saw, that I didn't convince mutt to % seek i

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-09 Thread Volker Moell
David T-G wrote: > > Do you mean a folder of emails that are non-MIME pgp and you want them to > be seen as PGP messages? Well, what about a muttrc hook line or a macro > that simply says > > . > > to tag 'em all, hit esc-P for 'em, and then untag? Great, thanks! I should think more in macr

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-08 Thread Jeremy Blosser
On Jan 08, David T-G [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > ...and then Derek D. Martin said... > % [SNIP more of my ramblings...] > % > % > Try Esc-P when displaying a message. > % > % Ok... I was unfamiliar with this option/feature. I guess you could > % add another gripe: documentation. The old versi

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-08 Thread David T-G
Derek, et al -- ...and then Derek D. Martin said... % % > >There seems to be no way to make mutt include a forwarded message in % > >quoted text. MUCH more often than not, that's the behavior I want, so ... % > The easiest way to do this is, of course, to just use reply. ;-) % % Well, yes, exc

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-08 Thread David T-G
Volker - ...and then Volker Moell said... % % Lars Hecking wrote: % > % > Secondly, mutt also supports checking of traditionally signed email % > (i.e. without conversion). % > % > P check-traditional-pgp check for classic pgp % ... % single mail I can hit Esc-P, but when searching i

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-08 Thread René Clerc
* Samuel Padgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [08-01-2002 17:39]: [all context] | Real UNIX users only compose email with ed, no doubt about it! ;-) Real UNIX users telnet to the SMTP port ;) -- René Clerc - ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The very essence of leadership is that you have to ha

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-08 Thread Dale Woolridge
On 8-Jan-2002 10:55 Justin R. Miller wrote: | | I don't know about you, but I'd like to have a final confirmation of | whose key I'm encrypting with before I send a message. For my close | friends, I have a send-hook set up (to encrypt) and that searches for | their key(s), but never prompts me

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-08 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Justin R. Miller hath spake thusly: > Thus spake Derek D. Martin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > > - pgp userid identification > > > > > > Despite the fact that I've composed an e-mail to a person whose > > > e-mail address match

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-08 Thread Samuel Padgett
mike ledoux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't buy into the idea that the editor should be the beginning and > the end of my interaction with the system. I expect a text editor to > be good at editing text--nothing more, nothing less. To insist that > the editor should know the difference be

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-08 Thread Justin R. Miller
Thus spake Derek D. Martin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > - pgp userid identification > > > > Despite the fact that I've composed an e-mail to a person whose > > e-mail address matches exactly one of the userid's in my gpg key > > ring, and despite the fact that gpg will select the correct key > > ev

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-08 Thread Thomas Hurst
* mike ledoux ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 09:22:45AM +0100, René Clerc wrote: > > > I couldn't _disagree_ with you more. For example, C source code is > > text to: I bet you'll want your editor to know that it's editing C > > source code ;) I'd perhaps disagree that it s

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-08 Thread René Clerc
* Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [08-01-2002 03:36]: | On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 21:04:10 -0500, mike ledoux wrote: | > On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 12:27:29AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: | > > Me too. Now, this isn't a problem for me as using the editor (emacs | > > in my case) to do that is a b

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread Dale Woolridge
On 7-Jan-2002 19:53 Derek D. Martin wrote: | | Mutt sucks much less (for me) today! =8^) I'd still really really | like to see the pgp key selection stuff cleaned up, and I'd also Have a look at http://www.woolridge.org/mutt/ for a patch which will probably address the iss

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread Philip Mak
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 08:59:04PM -0500, Derek D. Martin wrote: > > > Mike L, if you have tricks for figuring out WHICH mozilla window the > > > page will pop up in, I'd like to see that. > > Yeah, that'd do it, but I'd rather just leave one up and have it use > the same one all the time. No

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 21:04:10 -0500, mike ledoux wrote: > On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 12:27:29AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > Me too. Now, this isn't a problem for me as using the editor (emacs > > in my case) to do that is a better solution since I can unstrip the > > signature (with Ctrl-_ i

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread Derek D. Martin
crypt as well). This is *very* frustrating. Yeah, that sucks too. Though I haven't looked at the code much (being not really a programmer), it strikes me that ought to be something that's fairly easy to fix. Maybe I'll look at it, if no one else bothers... > > Mutt sucks muc

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Will Yardley hath spake thusly: > Derek D. Martin wrote: > > > > Mutt sucks much less (for me) today! =8^) I'd still really really > > like to see the pgp key selection stuff cleaned up, and I&#x

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread Will Yardley
Derek D. Martin wrote: > > Mutt sucks much less (for me) today! =8^) I'd still really really > like to see the pgp key selection stuff cleaned up, and I'd also > really rather not have to hit P to have a traditional PGP message > work. do you use procmail? i use t

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread Derek D. Martin
Same as above for this one. > - clearsigned and/or ascii-armored messages At least as far as my (very) limited test goes, P does seem to deal with this acceptably. > With these problems, IMO mutt does not suck less than other mailers; > it just sucks differently. If they were f

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread Samuel Padgett
Derek D. Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, that command didn't do much useful for me, Did you try running it after loading post-mode? > To turn it OFF, one would stick this in the appropriate place in > their .emacs file: > > '(post-kill-quoted-sig nil) That line alone does not do

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 14:40:36 -0500, mike ledoux wrote: > On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 01:40:30PM -0500, Derek D. Martin wrote: > > Occasionally, you run across a sig that's just damn cool, or otherwise > > warrants comment. I can find no way to make mutt include the sig in > > e-mail, temporarily

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Samuel Padgett hath spake thusly: > Derek D. Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Hmmm... well, whenever I reply to a message, everything after > > sigdashes is stripped from the message. It's possible that my editor > >

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread Samuel Padgett
Derek D. Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hmmm... well, whenever I reply to a message, everything after > sigdashes is stripped from the message. It's possible that my editor > is doing this (I use post-mode for emacs), and I'll look into that. I'm pretty sure that post-mode does this. Yo

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread René Clerc
* Derek D. Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [07-01-2002 20:59]: | > text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -force_html %s; needsterminal | > text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -dump -force_html %s; copiousoutput | > | > When I get HTML mail it automatically gets passed through lynx and | > displayed in Mutt's pager.

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread Justin R. Miller
Thus spake Volker Moell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Months ago there was a thread how to do this automatically. But at > that time all tries didn't work; AFAIR there was a conceptual problem > (endless loops or so, I don't know exactly any more). Well, to read > one single mail I can hit Esc-P, but

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread Volker Moell
Lars Hecking wrote: > > Secondly, mutt also supports checking of traditionally signed email > (i.e. without conversion). > > P check-traditional-pgp check for classic pgp Months ago there was a thread how to do this automatically. But at that time all tries didn't work; AFAIR there wa

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread Jim Mock
On Mon, 07 Jan 2002 at 13:40:30 -0500, Derek D. Martin wrote: > Here's my current list of gripes: > > - forwarded messages not included in quoting > > There seems to be no way to make mutt include a forwarded message in > quoted text. MUCH more often than not, that's the behavior I want, so >

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread Will Yardley
Derek D. Martin wrote: > At some point hitherto, mike ledoux hath spake thusly: > > On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 01:40:30PM -0500, Derek D. Martin wrote: > > > There seems to be no way to make mutt include a forwarded message > > > in quoted text. MUCH more often than not, that's the behavior I > > >

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, mike ledoux hath spake thusly: > On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 01:40:30PM -0500, Derek D. Martin wrote: > > There seems to be no way to make mutt include a forwarded message in > > quoted text. MUCH more often than not, that's the behavior I want, so > > that I can comment on wh

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > >There seems to be no way to make mutt include a forwarded message in > >quoted text. MUCH more often than not, that's the behavior I want, so > >that I can comment on what the original writer wrote. Maybe a way > >does exist, since it seems intui

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread Lars Hecking
> - clearsigned and/or ascii-armored messages > > Whether you guys like it or not, most of the rest of the world uses > clearsigning and ascii-armored plaintext messages. Mutt falls down > here. You apparently refuse to support this, which makes no sense > since the majority of the PGP-using

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread Justin R. Miller
Thus spake Will Yardley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > that said, it would be cool if there were 'forward_inline' and > 'forward_quoted' options or something. See $forward_quote :-) -- Justin R. Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> View my website at http://codesorcery.net Please encrypt email using key 0xC9C40

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread Will Yardley
Derek D. Martin wrote: > There seems to be no way to make mutt include a forwarded message in > quoted text. why not just reply and then change the 'To' header. you can delete the 'in-reply-to' if you're worried about messing up headers. that said, it would be cool if there were 'forward_inline

Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I like Mutt's motto: All e-mail clients suck; mutt just sucks less. And I used to believe it too, until I started trying to use GPG regularly. I switched from Pine to mutt specifically for its built-in support for PGP/GPG. But I found that either I