Re: vfolders

2001-07-18 Thread Bruno Postle
On Thu 12-Jul-2001 at 12:49:39PM +, Jonathan Miller wrote: > I really love the concept of vfolders, which are basically SQL > statements that create "folders" out of a bunch of mail in a database. This is a definite issue with the mail-as-file system for storing mail. Like most people, I hav

[OT] Re: vfolders

2001-07-17 Thread David
On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: > > We had several problems with ReiserFS, we even lost a machine due to > FS corruption. We rather use XFS... or ext3 > Little off topic, but how well has ext3 been working for you? Are you having problems with it? -- Don't tell me I'm burning the

Re: vfolders

2001-07-17 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 12:48:53AM -0700, Tracy R Reed wrote: > Not only that but create a reiserfs filesystem and put your Maildir on it. > It will absolutely FLY! reiserfs was designed for handling many small > files such as in a Maildir. I've been using reiserfs for a year now with > excellent

Re: vfolders

2001-07-17 Thread Tracy R Reed
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 02:59:00PM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: > On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 08:56:08AM -0400, Walt Mankowski wrote: > > > I've done some experimenting with Maildirs. I've found it to be quite > > a bit *slower* than mbox, particularly on big folders. This is on a > > Linux ext2

Re: MailDir vs. mbox (was: Re: vfolders)

2001-07-15 Thread Ben Reser
On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 02:03:36PM -0500, Tim Legant wrote: > Note the requirement to use the hostname. Note that procmail doesn't. > Procmail is broken. Does on mine: _vz.z77T7.titanium [breser@titanium new]$ hostname titanium [breser@titanium new]$ procmail -v procmail v3.14 1999/11/22, Copyr

Re: MailDir vs. mbox (was: Re: vfolders)

2001-07-15 Thread Alexander Skwar
So sprach »Magnus Bodin« am 2001-07-15 um 21:38:49 +0200 : > I agree however, that the procmail filenames are ugly. How do real maildir filenames look like? In reality, that is - we all heard the spec :) Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (engl

Re: MailDir vs. mbox (was: Re: vfolders)

2001-07-15 Thread Alexander Skwar
So sprach »Tim Legant« am 2001-07-15 um 14:03:36 -0500 : > "Okay, so you're writing messages. A unique name has three pieces, > separated by dots. On the left is the result of time(). On the right is > the result of gethostname(). In the middle is something that doesn't > repeat within one

Re: MailDir vs. mbox (was: Re: vfolders)

2001-07-15 Thread Magnus Bodin
On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 02:03:36PM -0500, Tim Legant wrote: > On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 08:31:44PM +0200, Magnus Bodin wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 14, 2001 at 07:51:18PM -0500, Tim Legant wrote: > > > Procmail is severely broken in its creation of file names for maildirs. > > > If procmail correctly foll

Re: MailDir vs. mbox (was: Re: vfolders)

2001-07-15 Thread Tim Legant
On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 08:31:44PM +0200, Magnus Bodin wrote: > On Sat, Jul 14, 2001 at 07:51:18PM -0500, Tim Legant wrote: > > Procmail is severely broken in its creation of file names for maildirs. > > If procmail correctly followed the specification for maildirs, > > duplicates would be impossi

Re: MailDir vs. mbox (was: Re: vfolders)

2001-07-15 Thread Magnus Bodin
On Sat, Jul 14, 2001 at 07:51:18PM -0500, Tim Legant wrote: > > > > 995153880.17759_1.teich > > 995153880.17760_1.teich > > 995153880.17761_1.teich > > > > Procmail is severely broken in its creation of file names for maildirs. > If procmail correctly followed the specification for maildirs

Re: MailDir vs. mbox (was: Re: vfolders)

2001-07-14 Thread Tim Legant
On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 01:42:03AM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: > So sprach »Walt Mankowski« am 2001-07-13 um 19:04:43 -0400 : > > Maildirs have some neat advantages of their own. For example it's > > very easy to merge two folders together. I send mail from my laptop, > > Hmm, dunno, but I f

MailDir vs. mbox (was: Re: vfolders)

2001-07-14 Thread Alexander Skwar
So sprach »Walt Mankowski« am 2001-07-13 um 19:04:43 -0400 : > Maildirs have some neat advantages of their own. For example it's > very easy to merge two folders together. I send mail from my laptop, Hmm, dunno, but I find a cat old_mbox >> current_mbox also quite easy. Dunno how maildir names

Re: vfolders

2001-07-13 Thread Walt Mankowski
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 10:58:43AM -0400, darren chamberlain wrote: > Justin R. Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said something to this effect on 07/13/2001: > > What about searching? > > What I like most about mbox, and the main reason I haven't moved > to Maildir, is the searchability of a single fi

Re: vfolders

2001-07-13 Thread darren chamberlain
Justin R. Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said something to this effect on 07/13/2001: > Thus spake Walt Mankowski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Depends where the messages are that you're deleting. I find I'm > > generally deleting the newest messages, which are at the end of the > > file and don't take lo

Re: vfolders

2001-07-13 Thread Justin R. Miller
Thus spake Walt Mankowski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Depends where the messages are that you're deleting. I find I'm > generally deleting the newest messages, which are at the end of the > file and don't take long at all to delete. I open the folder to check > for new messages a lot more often than

Re: vfolders

2001-07-13 Thread Walt Mankowski
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 02:59:00PM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: > Yeah, but try deleting a mail from that 50MB mailbox. Boy, this will > suck. Depends where the messages are that you're deleting. I find I'm generally deleting the newest messages, which are at the end of the file and don't take

Re: vfolders

2001-07-13 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 08:56:08AM -0400, Walt Mankowski wrote: > I've done some experimenting with Maildirs. I've found it to be quite > a bit *slower* than mbox, particularly on big folders. This is on a > Linux ext2 partition. I had one Maildir that was an archive of a > high-traffic mailin

Re: vfolders

2001-07-13 Thread Walt Mankowski
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 03:33:04PM -0400, darren chamberlain wrote: > Have you considered Maildir format? It was designed specifically > to compensate for the limitations of mbox format, specifically > locking and speed. I've done some experimenting with Maildirs. I've found it to be quite a bi

Re: vfolders

2001-07-12 Thread Bob Bell
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 12:49:39PM +, Jonathan Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've recently become unhappy with the way that my email is > sorted/stored/whatever, and I've been looking into more advanced ways > of handling it as opposed to a big text file. I really love the concept > of v

Re: vfolders

2001-07-12 Thread darren chamberlain
Jonathan Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said something to this effect on 07/12/2001: > I've recently become unhappy with the way that my email is > sorted/stored/whatever, and I've been looking into more advanced ways > of handling it as opposed to a big text file. I really love the concept > of vfold