Re: hdr_order not working

2009-08-14 Thread dv1445
> On 13Aug2009 22:25, dv1...@wayne.edu wrote: > | > > (1) Isn't my muttrc supposed to override /usr/local/etc/muttrc when > | > > they conflict? > | > > | > With mutt config files, there's no notion of conflicts, there cannot > | > be. It reads them in line by line and remembers the setting inter

Re: hdr_order not working

2009-08-13 Thread dv1445
> > (1) Isn't my muttrc supposed to override /usr/local/etc/muttrc when > > they conflict? > > With mutt config files, there's no notion of conflicts, there cannot > be. It reads them in line by line and remembers the setting internally > somehow. This means they're always applied on top of one an

Re: hdr_order not working

2009-08-13 Thread dv1445
> On Thursday, August 13 at 07:40 PM, quoth dv1...@wayne.edu: > > Sometime in the last few days, it appears that the hdr_order setting > > in my muttrc is being ignored by mutt. I just noticed it today, > > with the Aug. 13 nightly, but it may have gone haywire in the last > > few days. > > So

hdr_order not working

2009-08-13 Thread dv1445
Hello, Sometime in the last few days, it appears that the hdr_order setting in my muttrc is being ignored by mutt. I just noticed it today, with the Aug. 13 nightly, but it may have gone haywire in the last few days. In my muttrc, I have these three lines: ignore * unignore from date subject

Re: urlview problems

2009-07-22 Thread dv1445
> Today after building and installing the latest tip, I find that urlview > doesn't work anymore. I hit CTRL-] and I get a list of urls, but when I go > to one that I know is valid and hit return, nothing happens. Upon quitting > mutt, I see right before my shell prompt: sh: line 1: url_handle

urlview problems

2009-07-22 Thread dv1445
Hello, Today after building and installing the latest tip, I find that urlview doesn't work anymore. I hit CTRL-] and I get a list of urls, but when I go to one that I know is valid and hit return, nothing happens. Upon quitting mutt, I see right before my shell prompt: sh: line 1: url_handle

Re: authenticated smtp problems

2009-05-20 Thread dv1445
> > They require authenticating smtp with ssl, > > There's multiple ways of doing that. Are they any more specific? No, unfortunately. > Before we get into this, let me explain the basic options here. There > are three different protocol-level variations on basic SMTP service: > SMTP, SMTPS, a

authenticated smtp problems

2009-05-20 Thread dv1445
Hello, One of my email providers just migrated to a new email system (Zimbra). With just a tiny adjustment in my muttrc (change from imaps://old.domain.com to imaps://new.domain.com) I seem to be able to read mail just fine. I cannot send it in the way I'm supposed to. They require authenticati

coloring in the index

2008-12-10 Thread dv1445
Hello, I've managed to color all mail addressed to this list (or CC'd to it) green, by means of: color index green default "~C mutt" However, I'm also trying to color all mail from me red, like so: color index red default ~P This works fine except for mail associated with this list that gets

Re: mutt tmp files

2008-10-01 Thread dv1445
Thus spake Kyle Wheeler [10/01/08 @ 09.12.14 -0500]: > On Wednesday, October 1 at 09:13 AM, quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > Hmm. Mutt has *always* left plenty of files behind for me. > > Starting with 1.4.something and all the way into 1.5.18. On OSX > > Panther, Tiger, and Leopard. It leaves t

Re: mutt tmp files

2008-10-01 Thread dv1445
Thus spake Kyle Wheeler [09/30/08 @ 16.01.37 -0500]: > On Tuesday, September 30 at 10:18 PM, quoth Mauro Sacchetto: > > I set mutt to put all tmp file in ~/mail/tmp. > > However, at present I've a lot of file, many empty > > or backup files. Is there an (automatic) method > > to delete the all t

securing muttrc on the mac

2008-08-08 Thread dv1445
Hello, A week or two ago there was a thread about how to secure one's .muttrc file if it has passwords sitting there in plaintext. A bit of tooling around has resulted in the following tip for those mutters working on OSX. The goal is not to encrypt the .muttrc, but rather to cleanse it of vulne

Re: smtp_pass: why is it unneeded?

2008-06-24 Thread dv1445
Thus spake Kyle Wheeler [06/24/08 @ 12.15.21 -0500]: > On Tuesday, June 24 at 12:20 PM, quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > >> So... your IMAP server will let you log in without a password? > > > > No, but once I'm reading my mail, an "unset imap_pass" together with > > "unset smtp_pass" still allows me to

Re: smtp_pass: why is it unneeded?

2008-06-24 Thread dv1445
Thus spake Kyle Wheeler [06/24/08 @ 10.31.12 -0500]: > On Tuesday, June 24 at 09:30 AM, quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > I use mutt's IMAP to check my email, and mutt's built-in SMTP to > > point to my remote SMTP server (that is, I have set > > smtp_url=smtps://blah.com). I also have set smtp_pass,

smtp_pass: why is it unneeded?

2008-06-24 Thread dv1445
Hello, I use mutt's IMAP to check my email, and mutt's built-in SMTP to point to my remote SMTP server (that is, I have set smtp_url=smtps://blah.com). I also have set smtp_pass, but I've discovered by accident that I can send mail even with smtp_pass commented out, and without mutt asking me to

Re: caching not right

2008-06-18 Thread dv1445
Thus spake Brendan Cully [06/18/08 @ 12.30.18 -0700]: > On Wednesday, 18 June 2008 at 15:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have a large IMAP folder (~17000 messages), and on the remote > > machine it's a maildir. Mutt 1.5.18 has just begun ignoring the > > header cache. When I go

caching not right

2008-06-18 Thread dv1445
Hello, I have a large IMAP folder (~17000 messages), and on the remote machine it's a maildir. Mutt 1.5.18 has just begun ignoring the header cache. When I go to that folder, I see "evauluating cache" like normal, but then it starts "fetching headers" starting from scratch. When this finishe

smtp authenticating as "plain"

2008-06-08 Thread dv1445
Hello, When I send mail from mutt (1.5.18), using mutt's own smtp_url feature rather than msmtp, I see a bunch of stuff flash by on the bottom of the screen. That "stuff" looks like mutt is contacting the smtp server, etc. But I see something that looks like it says "AUTHENTICATING (PLAIN)".

Re: Drafts index_format

2008-06-07 Thread dv1445
Thus spake Kyle Wheeler [06/07/08 @ 14.37.40 -0500]: > On Friday, June 6 at 07:56 PM, quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > Thus spake Kyle Wheeler [06/06/08 @ 16.36.22 -0500]: > >> Does anyone know how to set a hook to change the index_format in the > >> Postponed Messages selector? > >> > >> I use fold

Re: Drafts index_format

2008-06-06 Thread dv1445
Thus spake Kyle Wheeler [06/06/08 @ 16.36.22 -0500]: > Does anyone know how to set a hook to change the index_format in the > Postponed Messages selector? > > I use folder-hooks to set the index_format; for example, in folders of > mailing list messages, I use an index_format that always shows t

Re: set time_inc= ?

2008-05-27 Thread dv1445
Thus spake Wilkinson, Alex [05/28/08 @ 09.56.38 +0800]: > AFAICT with time_inc=10 included in my $HOME/.mutt/settings I see no change, > yet > I see people on this list raving about it ? What am I missing ? 10 milliseconds isn't very long :) -gmn

Re: new things in 1.5.18

2008-05-27 Thread dv1445
Thus spake Rocco Rutte [05/26/08 @ 14.38.05 +0200]: >> If so, I suppose the best thing is to let read_inc and write_inc be >> 1000 or even bigger, while letting time_inc be 10 seconds. > > Sorry, I still don't get what exactly you're trying to achieve. When > time_inc is 10s, it mostly doesn't m

inaccurate estimates of message size

2008-05-23 Thread dv1445
Hello, Mutt (always has for me) made extremely inaccurate estimates of how big my email messages are. Often off by a factor of 5. Why is this? Is it maybe not mutt's fault, but the IMAP servers I interact with? On the one hand, I hope it's the servers' fault, because mutt is great. On the

Re: speed of cacheing depends on terminal?

2008-05-23 Thread dv1445
Thus spake Rocco Rutte [05/21/08 @ 09.18.56 +0200]: > > * [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Thus spake Rocco Rutte [05/15/08 @ 16.16.10 +0200]: > >>> http://dev.mutt.org/trac/ticket/2978 > >> I just downloaded the source and built. I don't use macports at all. >> BerkeleyDB compiles flawlessly on Pa

Re: new things in 1.5.18

2008-05-23 Thread dv1445
Thus spake Rocco Rutte [05/23/08 @ 15.28.00 +0200]: >> First, I see that when mutt is Evaluating Cache or Fetching Headers (or >> other things too), there is now a percentage displayed to the right of >> the fraction that tells how far along mutt is in the process. There >> used to simply be

new things in 1.5.18

2008-05-22 Thread dv1445
Hello, I've just build 1.5.18 and replaced 1.5.17. I notice that there's some small new features in 1.5.18 that are kind of annoying me, and I'd like to know what, if anything, I can do about it. First, I see that when mutt is Evaluating Cache or Fetching Headers (or other things too), there

Re: speed of cacheing depends on terminal?

2008-05-20 Thread dv1445
Thus spake Rocco Rutte [05/15/08 @ 16.16.10 +0200]: > * [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> FWIW: I built using the BerkeleyDB libraries, since the other choices >> refuse to work with OSX. (Actually, I finally got mutt to build with gdb, >> but mutt behaved *really* weird with screen-drawing, so gdb is

speed of cacheing depends on terminal?

2008-05-10 Thread dv1445
Hello, 1.5.17 with header caching enabled. I've got read_inc and write_inc set to 1000. Nevertheless, I've noticed that the process of evaluating the cache (when I switch into a big folder) is significantly slower when I use Terminal.app than if I use xterm/rxvt over Apple's X11. This is puz

too much header fetching

2008-05-10 Thread dv1445
Hello, I have some mailing list archives kept in mailboxes over IMAP. I have header caching enabled on 1.5.17. Usually when I switch to those folders, mutt "evaluates" the caches, which is a process that's considerably faster than "fetching the headers" (indeed, that's the point of caching).

Re: save_history not working

2007-11-05 Thread dv1445
Thus spake Kyle Wheeler [11/05/07 @ 12.02.04 -0600]: > > > > I also noticed that not only does :set &save_history ?save_history > > return 0 when I set it to 100, but also, :set $history returns 10 > > even when I set it to 100. Either I've screwed up or mutt isn't > > reporting values correct

Re: save_history not working

2007-11-05 Thread dv1445
Thus spake Kyle Wheeler [11/04/07 @ 22.26.46 -0600]: > On Sunday, November 4 at 04:45 PM, quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > The save_history setting is supposed to tell mutt how many things to > > save in the history_file, right? Save_history is not working for me > > at all. No matter what I set i

save_history not working

2007-11-04 Thread dv1445
The save_history setting is supposed to tell mutt how many things to save in the history_file, right? Save_history is not working for me at all. No matter what I set it to, it only saves 10 commands. In .muttrc I have set save_history=100 or 50, or whatever. Then mutt starts, and when I ent

what happened?

2007-11-02 Thread dv1445
Testing to see if I receive this ... I haven't received any messages from the mutt list since Oct 30, even though the archives show that there's been some activity. Does my list subscription expire or something? G

Re: pattern aliases

2007-10-11 Thread dv1445
Thus spake Michael Hendricks [10/11/07 @ 21.19.15 -0600]: > I was unable to find an answer to this question on the wiki, in the > manual or in the mailing list archives. Is it possible to create > aliases for commonly used patterns? For instance, when I begin working > on project "foo", I often s

Re: trouble building with sasl

2007-10-06 Thread dv1445
OK, I tried a fresh install of cyrus-sasl2.1.22 in /usr/local/lib, and was able to build. But now I can't authenticate with my smtp server. Here's what I've set: smtp_url='smtp://[EMAIL PROTECTED]:587' But mutt attempts to send mail and I get "no authenticators available". I've been using ms

trouble building with sasl

2007-10-06 Thread dv1445
All, I've been trying to build in sasl so that I can fully use the new built-in smtp action in 1.5.16. Trouble is, I have sasl on my machine, but when I invoke 'make', I get a bunch of errors, telling me that some file named sasl.h does not exist. Well, that's true, there is no file on my mac

Re: Subject üî

2007-09-10 Thread dv1445
Thus spake Kyle Wheeler [09/10/07 @ 18.25.23 -0500]: > And of course, you can try them out, and if you don't like the > results, change it back to how it is now without a second thought. :) As a matter of fact, I don't seem to have .Xdefaults *anywhere* on my machine. There is something called

Re: Subject üî

2007-09-10 Thread dv1445
Thus spake Kyle Wheeler [09/10/07 @ 18.25.23 -0500]: > And of course, you can try them out, and if you don't like the > results, change it back to how it is now without a second thought. :) I don't know what it is now, since I do not have an ~/.Xdefaults file. (not in my home dir anyway). Can

Re: Subject üî

2007-09-10 Thread dv1445
Thus spake Kyle Wheeler [09/10/07 @ 15.13.49 -0500]: > On Monday, September 10 at 03:42 PM, quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > I've tried setting it to xterm-16color, 256color, and just color, > > all with no dice. The messed-up colors have a precedent. When I > > installed OSX 10.4 with Apple's X11,

Re: Subject üî

2007-09-10 Thread dv1445
Thus spake Kyle Wheeler [09/07/07 @ 08.01.34 -0500]: > >Latin1 it is, until further bizarre things pop up. Plus, xterm under > >X11 does it right under Latin1, while it is screwy under UTF-8. > >(uxterm and other things, like the -u8 option and friends, resulted > >in messed-up colors, includin

Re: Subject üî

2007-09-06 Thread dv1445
Thus spake Alain Bench [09/06/07 @ 19.17.56 +0200]: > And the "ui" arrived here cleanly. This may mean the replacements > were inserted when you entered the "uia". Where? At Mutt's subject > prompt? Or in Vim in $edit_headers? Typed, or Pasted? Hmm, I don't know. I didn't paste it in. I'm pr

Re: Subject üî

2007-09-05 Thread dv1445
Thus spake Alain Bench [09/05/07 @ 00.01.21 +0200]: > Exactly. When I said they have to agree, it was about the charset > only. However, muttrc doesn't want to set $charset: The default value is > automatically derived from the current locale. This automatic link was > absent or broken in previ

Re: Subject �üÃ

2007-09-03 Thread dv1445
Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09/03/07 @ 15.22.31 -0400]: > > Ångström. SØren. Cristóbal. Æneid. Straße. Œdipus. Wow, I can see myself that this looks terrible. So does the subject line, which when I composed it was three characters: u with umlaut, i with circumflex, and a with o o

Re: Subject �üîå� charset issue

2007-09-03 Thread dv1445
Thus spake Alain Bench [09/02/07 @ 11.03.22 +0200]: > > > I made all three agree on en_US.UTF-8, and the result was terrible. > > Most accented chars still were garbled. > > Strange: I've seen reports about this very setting working OK on > MacOS-X. The shell command "locale charmap" prints

Re: Subject charset issue

2007-09-01 Thread dv1445
Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09/01/07 @ 14.24.47 -0400]: > I made all three agree on en_US.UTF-8, and the result was terrible. Most > accented chars still were garbled. Plus, I sent a test mail to myself with > some accented chars, and although they looked fine when I sent it, they were > gar

Re: Subject charset issue

2007-09-01 Thread dv1445
Thus spake Alain Bench [09/01/07 @ 11.14.46 +0200]: > > the correctly-shown "from" is the very first time, ever, in my history > > with mutt that an accented character has been displayed. Normally, > > I get either a single question-mark or a double one. > > This means that your terminal does

Re: Subject charset issue (was: merging/linking tagged messages into

2007-08-29 Thread dv1445
Thus spake Alexander Dahl [08/29/07 @ 10.36.07 +0200]: > Hi folks, > > I know, I'm a little off-topic, but I have a question about a charset issue: > > On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 02:39:54PM -0400, Crist??bal M. Palmer wrote: >^^ > > Crist?bal Palmer >