Re: split display?

2009-07-17 Thread lee
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 09:51:41PM +0100, Adam Wellings wrote: > Have you looked at nmh? Thanks! Long ago I looked at mh ... I just installed nmh and found it apparently doesn't support maildir. Supporting maildir is a requirement.

Re: split display?

2009-07-17 Thread jacob certain
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 13:14, lee wrote: > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:33:20AM -0700, jacob certain wrote: >> So, I think I understand what you want: gmail. Yes, it's a web >> interface, with limited keyboard commands, but the whole >> basket/basement thing is implemented near exactly as you descri

Re: multipart/alternative question

2009-07-17 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Friday, July 17 at 03:58 PM, quoth lee: > Hm, somehow I've never had that problem. When reading the message, I > find out if something is attached. You're lucky! These days, I usually use the size as an indicator. A message that's 10K or so is

Re: split display?

2009-07-17 Thread lee
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 04:18:28PM -0400, Tim Gray wrote: > It's easy enough to write a shell/python/perl script to scan your mail > directory, ignoring boxes/folders your don't want, and spit out muttrc > lines. Then just call that script from your mutt rc and you are good to > go. Everytim

Re: storing tagged state?

2009-07-17 Thread lee
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 01:53:18AM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > On Thursday, July 16 at 11:52 PM, quoth lee: > >is it possible to store which messages are currently tagged, to do > >something and then to restore the previous tags? > > Sure, it's possible. Not *easy*, but possible. The way I'd sugg

Re: multipart/alternative question

2009-07-17 Thread lee
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 01:38:04PM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > For example, I often get emails from corporate secretaries that use > Outlook and some goofy HTML stationery (complete with background > picture, goofy fonts, corporate logo, etc.). Knowing that it's a > complex MIME structure isn't a

Re: split display?

2009-07-17 Thread Adam Wellings
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009, lee wrote: > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:33:20AM -0700, jacob certain wrote: > > So, I think I understand what you want: gmail. Yes, it's a web > > interface, with limited keyboard commands, but the whole > > basket/basement thing is implemented near exactly as you describe. I

Re: multipart/alternative question

2009-07-17 Thread lee
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 02:04:15PM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > Actually, RFC 2046 is more recent, but says nearly the exact same > thing. It adds: > > Systems should recognize that the content of the various parts [of > multipart/alternative sections] are interchangeable. Systems >

Re: multipart/alternative question

2009-07-17 Thread lee
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 01:56:45PM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > In other words, I think the suggestion here is to count attachments > from only ONE of the alternatives, not from all of the alternatives, > because to count attachments in ALL of the alternatives is > equivalent to being show multipl

Re: split display?

2009-07-17 Thread Tim Gray
On Fri 17, Jul'09 at 2:03 PM -0600, lee wrote: Since you need to tell mutt which folders are maildirs, why can't you tag directories in the directory list to tell mutt that those are maildirs and have mutt write that into its config? Why doesn't mutt optionally ask you when creating a new maildi

Re: split display?

2009-07-17 Thread lee
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:33:20AM -0700, jacob certain wrote: > So, I think I understand what you want: gmail. Yes, it's a web > interface, with limited keyboard commands, but the whole > basket/basement thing is implemented near exactly as you describe. I > think you'd be pretty happy with it, th

Re: split display?

2009-07-17 Thread lee
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 09:31:02AM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > > Yes, but that doesn't mean that there couldn't be an easier way to do > > that than there is now. > > even smaller than 80x25. Mutt tries to accomodate everyone... but on > such small terminal screens, there's a limit to what you c

Re: SSL encrypts for recipients only

2009-07-17 Thread Omen Wild
Quoting Bertram Scharpf on Fri, Jul 17 00:24: > > I'm just beginning to understand SSL encryption but so far > everything works well. Yet, there's one thing I miss: When given > an Fcc field, this recipient (myself) will not be included in the > list handed over to openssl. I created a patch for

Re: multipart/alternative question

2009-07-17 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Friday, July 17 at 01:56 PM, quoth Kyle Wheeler: >On Friday, July 17 at 12:18 PM, quoth lee: >> Is there an RFC that defines how a MUA is supposed to deal with such >> multipart messages? RFC 2183 seems to (reasonably) say only a >> minimum abou

Re: multipart/alternative question

2009-07-17 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Friday, July 17 at 12:18 PM, quoth lee: > Is there an RFC that defines how a MUA is supposed to deal with such > multipart messages? RFC 2183 seems to (reasonably) say only a > minimum about what MUAs should do. Not that I know of... The closes

Re: multipart/alternative question

2009-07-17 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Friday, July 17 at 11:37 AM, quoth lee: > Mutt already supports this in that you can specify what things > should qualify as attachments and be counted. The problem is that > the counting doesn't work right. Agreed! >> What's the utility of yo

Re: multipart/alternative question

2009-07-17 Thread lee
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:37:50AM -0500, David Champion wrote: > * On 17 Jul 2009, lee wrote: > > > > Well, I'm not trying to mislead someone. Where is defined what an > > attachment is for the context of a MUA, and who made the definition? > > Content-Disposition's role is described in RFC 218

Re: multipart/alternative question

2009-07-17 Thread lee
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:39:19AM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > No, I mean that MIME components (aka "entities") have meanings that > affect the interpretation of other MIME entities. ok > I could appeal to something like Wikipedia (which says an email > attachment "is a computer file which is

Re: use current folder name as argument to abitrary command

2009-07-17 Thread Rocco Rutte
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 02:38:52PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: > I repeatedly submitted a patch that did that. It was rejected. > [I don't remember what shortcut "character" I made expand into > the current folder.] I eventually gave up. Hopefully you'll > have better luck. Any reference? We h

Re: Inline text attachments

2009-07-17 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Friday, July 17 at 04:38 PM, quoth Noah Slater: > When I create a new message, mutt creates a file like: > > /tmp/mutt-tumbolia-1000-2303-0 > > Is there no way to hook into the same thing? Not that I'm aware of... but very creative people have p

Re: multipart/alternative question

2009-07-17 Thread David Champion
* On 17 Jul 2009, lee wrote: > > Well, I'm not trying to mislead someone. Where is defined what an > attachment is for the context of a MUA, and who made the definition? Content-Disposition's role is described in RFC 2183. But "attachment" is a very ambiguous term. There is no English analogue

Re: multipart/alternative question

2009-07-17 Thread lee
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 02:36:41PM +0100, Noah Slater wrote: > I guess in some general sense you are correct, but within the > context of a MUA, an attachment has a very specific and well defined > meaning, that is much more narrow than this. Well, I'm not trying to mislead someone. Where is defin

Re: Inline text attachments

2009-07-17 Thread Noah Slater
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 02:35:50PM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > For reference, since people can and do rebind their keys, it's > probably better to refer to things by their function names. In this > case (as you can see from the help menu), it's . Okay, thanks. > You *can* automate the process, b

Re: split display?

2009-07-17 Thread Derek Martin
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 06:25:17PM -0600, lee wrote: > > > 1.) It is awkward. > > > > My point above was that it's going to be awkward regardless; you're > > going to have to take some action to manually mark your messages with > > your category. > > Yes, but that doesn't mean that there couldn't

Re: multipart/alternative question

2009-07-17 Thread Noah Slater
Hey, On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 10:16:57PM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > I 1 [multipart/alternative] > I 2 |-> [text/plain] > I 3 `-> [text/html] [...] > But anyway, I don't consider this message to have ANY "attachments". On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 10:51:44PM -0600,

Re: split display?

2009-07-17 Thread lee
Hm, I need to split this mail because I got it back with a message telling me that only 20k characters are allowed. This is part one. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 09:34:49AM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 09:54:16PM -0600, lee wrote: > > > So, in other words, you would need to m

Re: split display?

2009-07-17 Thread jacob certain
So, I think I understand what you want: gmail. Yes, it's a web interface, with limited keyboard commands, but the whole basket/basement thing is implemented near exactly as you describe. I think you'd be pretty happy with it, though a specialised version for your own domain costs a bit more than mu

Re: multipart/alternative question

2009-07-17 Thread Rejo Zenger
++ 16/07/09 09:03 -0500 - Kyle Wheeler: >> Since mutt is set to prefer text/plain, all I see is the plain text >> message, with no indication that there is an attachment (or even an >> html part). > >First, of course there's no obvious indication that there's an html >part. Why should there be?

Re: multipart/alternative question

2009-07-17 Thread lee
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:48:45AM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > On Thursday, July 16 at 10:51 PM, quoth lee: > >On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 10:16:57PM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > > > >> But anyway, I don't consider this message to have ANY "attachments". > >> The person didn't send me any extra files