On Jan 9, 2008 5:05 AM, Raimo Niskanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 02:00:31AM -0500, Nick Guenther wrote:
> > On Jan 9, 2008 1:22 AM, William Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Dear misc --
> > >
> > > I'm a
> Any suggestions?
Get a Netgear ISDN router - used one for a number of years with no problems.
They come in either single network connection or with 4 port hub.
-N
On Jan 8, 2008 11:40 AM, Sunnz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/1/8, Sam Fourman Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > do you have a website that has pictures, the mail server stripped your
> > attachemnts
> >
> > Sam Fourman Jr.
> >
> >
> I second that, me want see pictures!!!
>
http://icanhascheezburger
> give me X.25 any day, instead of this new fangled ISDN technology.
Don't forget to run uucp over it ;-)
Lars NoodC)n wrote:
I suppose another option is to use pf to filter out all incoming traffic
to the servers originating from Windows computers maybe except to
relevant services like http port or https. If we could see a blanket
ban on connecting Windows machines to the net, things would improve
easy or magic happens, you may end up in big trouble.
btw: at least in my case, the PE2800 with a 4/Di card has no beeper. If
the drive fails, you either need bioctl to tell you or notice the color
change on the display of the machine. "bioctl ami0" makes a really good
line in your daily.local file...
Nick.
ll either go to the machine or use bioctl
anyway, so I'd just rather have the whole thing there.
Fully dmesg follows for the curious. Well, that, and I get my hands on a
cutting-edge three-year-old computer relatively rarely, so I gotta gloat,
even if your new laptop has more processor and R
be the
default of the OS in question, which in this case is 9600bps. That
way, when you reinstall it, you don't forget to edit that parameter
and cause yourself problems.
Remember: the goal is NOT to get the thing running, the goal is to
KEEP it running (i.e., maintainable) throughout its life cycle.
Nick.
tech@ email with subject:
Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: acpicpu needs wide testing]
thx
// nick
it. (hint: FAQ 14).
Personally, I'd move the hard disk. Sure, that doesn't use your USB
drive to much advantage, but I suspect I'd win a race in doing that.
HOWEVER, having OpenBSD on a bootable USB flash disk is very handy at
times...assuming you hang around HW new enough to actually boot from
USB.
Nick.
ed me with making sure
this was plastered all over the things people would be looking at,
and told me to make it clear it was an error, and would be fixed
for the next release. upgrade43.html will include a bit about
removing xbase42.tgz if you had to install it for 4.2)
Nick.
process
to pick it up using exclusively xandros on the eee...
thanks in advance.
-f
see recent thread, "Install OpenBSD from USB".
Don't believe all of of what people said. :)
(short version: just do a normal install to the flash disk)
Nick.
frantisek holop wrote:
hmm, on Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 09:45:27AM -0500, Nick Holland said that
(short version: just do a normal install to the flash disk)
how do i boot bsd.rd to make an install to the flash disk?
chicken egg. i dont have an usb cdrom, nor floppy disk.
only usb media. i need
> I have an upcoming project where I need to be able to automate the upload and
> download of files to/from an HTTPS server (not owned by me). The server says
> it requires 128 bit encryption. I would like to be able to do this using
> python because it is the language that I know the best and it
thing.
Best bit of advice: doctors are not E-Mag specialists, and I can't
think of many E-mags I'd want to have giving me medical advice, so
don't trust anyone's diagnosis or advice blindly. Keep your brain
engaged and do a lot of experimenting. I can speculate as to what
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
So, back to the issue at hand. Anybody have fond memories of great 486
or Pentium-based servers (or other arch equivs)?
Doug.
Back in 1999, I picked up several used HP Vectra Pentium 100 desktops
for use as backup backup dial in administration machines at our remo
irtual raid0 disk.
> Can I safely mount this on a live system or is that a bad idea?
not only is it safe, sometimes it critical to add swap on the fly. :)
Nick.
s probably aren't
want you want. If you are trying to minimize EMF, the higher power
consumption of the disk chassis is probably not what you want. And I
doubt the extra cables between the chassis and the computer are going
to be your friends.
Nick.
a PCI machine, skip the on-board BIOS, and
use an (old) PCI IDE interface board with a boot ROM. Get an old
one to keep the speed down.
Yes, I've put 40G disks on 486 and P90s (and the P90s choked on
anything bigger than 3G, as I recall), and many other machines.
Nick.
at it does shut itself off if you break the RF shielding. :)
If you really want to go that route, look at what the machines are
SELLING for on e-bay, not what people are asking for them. BIG
difference. Offer $50 to the person asking $300 for the machine,
you will probably get a "no way in hell", and the machine a couple
weeks later. :)
Nick.
platform...at the moment. It
is being worked on, slowly, but there be dragons, and they all have to
be slain.
Nick.
you got to give it back.
> I see. Just for my personal reference, was this limitation documented
> somewhere (just want to make sure I didn't miss anything)...?
>
> If not, should it be?
It should probably be in faq12.html. Not something my $100US Sempron64
ever really had to worry about. :)
Nick.
27;ve had an OpenBSD machine firewall run for months with a dead
hard disk, and I've seen a firewall with overly aggressive
logging fill 4G of logging space in three days (but even that
probably had minimal impact on the system performance).
Nick.
ccidentally done a "halt -p" in the wrong window,
annoying, but I could have serial-consoled into the box, tapped a key
and brought it back up. Now I'll have to make an embarrassing phone
call and wait... I find myself doing a "reboot" on my laptop
(which powers off fine, at least with the "machdep.apmhalt" sysctl),
and hitting the power button at the right moment now.
Nick.
7;s call it
proved. It's annoying to look through all the idiots-pretending-
to-be-experts, the idiots stirring shit because they can, and the
developers setting it straight to find people who have honest-to-
goodness questions or problems related to OpenBSD.
Nick.
antic, intolerant, fanatical, insistent,
demanding and relentless: in other words, the perfect people
to be crafting an operating system."
(possibly from Rich Kulawiec, but I've not had much luck confirming
that... and he's wrong: not some, ALL...)
Nick.
this is related to openbsd, but ilo2 wins hands
down to drac, but has a costly advanced license.
Installing openbsd through ilo2 virtual cd works just fine btw.
// nick
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Jussi Peltola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Displaying the name of the file and the matched line nicely like grep -r
> does is not elegant with find + grep without using a script or a long
> and inelegant alias - or if it is, I'd be interested in how it can be
>
years ago. It's still a
mostly pointless curiosity, and I'm still lame at "working the
system".
But yes, if someone has access to your system enough to flood
your system with liquid hydrocarbons and liquid nitrogen...you
got bigger security problems than your memory not forgetting.
Nick.
edia, ssh &
serial are always included. For blades you get kvm & media for free.
// nick
Kasper Revsbech wrote:
I have attached to windows xp clients by crossed cable one to each if
(vr and vr2)
The fun begins here, when i turn on and off the windows machines a
couple of times one of the can't obtain a IP. It actually brings
down the whole interface. I can't attach another BS
e.
The PROPER way of doing this, however, being this is a many
year old, unmaintained install, is to build a new 4.2 or 4.3
system, install the apps, and transfer the data files.
I'm guessing it is a screwed up system, or it would have been
properly maintained and be running 4.2 now. So, why would
you want to blindly migrate a mess to new hardware?
Nick.
ck a lot of vendors
have provided, and they each do it differently. We'd love to have a
nice little system that did the hand-off from redirection to OS port
nicely, but there is no known standard way to do this on every PC
that supports console redirection.
Nick.
If you are lucky. If you were not so
lucky, you just patched and installed a new kernel to fix some
horrible bug...that is still going to bite you because you
thought it was really cool to turn the boot.conf knobs.
Sometimes the way to "avoid" one error opens the door to three
or four others.
Nick.
Nick Holland wrote:
> Don Jackson wrote:
>> I use serial consoles on all my OpenBSD servers for remote serial
>> access to the machines, both during initial install via pxeboot, and
>> later on in regular use after the install.
>> I'm currently running eith
be your first warning sign that something
is very wrong, and rather than migrating or virtualizing your
problems, be a real engineer and FIX the real problem, don't
just change it. Remember, virtualized systems can need Disaster
Recovery, too...
(end Rant)
Nick.
oblem other
than what you are looking at.
Provide useful info, we can provide guidance.
Note: i386 machines I call "old" can't boot from CD. :)
Nick.
ver a general CMS for a few reasons, including
the fact it stuffed the diff in your face and had it there while
you were making the change message, and I found the dated change
files much easier to grep through when looking for when something
changed and why.
Nick.
at it won't work in (I can think of
a few), but since the software RAID partition is just a partition of
the disk, if the system boots (indicating the partitioning is good),
RAID will usually "just work", and it will almost always boot when
moving around on the same platform.
Nick.
nd the thing, how
are they hooked up, and how badly did the designers screw it up in
ways that haven't already been dealt with already.
Unfortunately, until someone tests a machine, it is pretty close to
impossible to find out.
Load OpenBSD on a USB flash drive, stick it in the thing, boot from
it and see what happens...
Nick.
ns with minimal disruption
(even if your solution is the best in the world, someday, something
better may come along...)
*) Design your system right. I could (and may) write an entire book
on that one sentence, but in short: keep it simple, reliable,
maintainable, documented and make sure it can survive past you.
Nick.
opyright law,
so I can determine how it is distributed, modified, etc. or should
be spread as widely as possible with nothing more than attribution,
and much of what I write would probably be best for me if spread
without attribution or buried and never seen again :).
Nick.
based on the fact that I did that today already, let's say I'd
SUGGEST going with amd64, even though I'd probably forget and go with
i386 myself. :)
Nick.
on needs to be cleaned, so repeat the process with the
next partition, and so on, until your system comes up with a
mount -a. Note, this "mount -a" trick attempts to mount
everything in your /etc/fstab file, so if you booted from
bsd.rd, this doesn't work. In that case, you need to look at
your disklabel or the etc/fstab file on your disk.
Nick.
stand their systems need it, and I need
it, so I spend the time working on it. However, it's not
officially recommended process, rebuilding a live system remotely
is just not quite as error tolerant as using an install kernel
locally. We'd be nuts to try to tell you otherwise.
Nick.
ut don't confuse "having fun" with doing
good work. Yes, you learn more by breaking things, but you impress
people more if you break 'em off-line, and use that knowledge to
keep your production stuff running and repaired quickly when it
breaks.
Nick.
pply if you reloaded the whole system
and blew away your /var partition. You did have /var in a separate
partition, right?
Nick.
forgot something:
Nick Holland wrote:
...
> You could also boot bsd.rd, and do something like:
> mount /dev/wd0a /mnt
> cd /mnt
> tar xzpf /path/etc.tgz
er.. one potential problem with that: it will overwrite parts of
your /var partition, which may or may not be a problem for you
(
you will appreciate the time and
effort required to build and reboot off a new kernel (even if compiled
on another machine). You just won't be adding much functionality to
the machine -- there won't be something major you will suddenly be
able to do that you couldn't do before.
Nick.
n was 12M, 8M, or way, way less. I don't know that
I have ever seen an 80387SX chip -- kinda bizarre thing, an expensive
accelerator for a machine you bought because you didn't need much
speed...
Nick.
Does it matter that the subnet mask is configured as a /30, or is it the
media type that controls this behavior? Is there any way to use this
mechanism on an ethernet interfaces?
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:16 AM, Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > We're trying to use the :peer modifier
d in OpenBSD, however, it can (and probably
should be) formatted in Windows. Windows does that ok, as long as it is the
first partition on the disk.
Nick.
se the package
binaries and not the ports tree...
Are you running -CURRENT? I'm very interested in this port too, but
I'm just going to wait 4 months for 4.1 to come out and for gnash to
be in packages.
-Nick
f
you're even running OpenBSD) exposes?
Try again.
-Nick
often
make maintaining the firewall itself annoying (reverse DNS lookups), but it
will also give your ISP a clue that you have a firewall and a bunch of
computers behind it, as THEY will be getting reverse DNS lookups for your
internal addresses. Most ISPs no longer care about this, but some might...
Nick.
achines is because it is hard to get >4G disks narrow SCSI disks, so
/usr/obj is on an old 2G drive on my mac68k build machine... Even there,
where the newfs is significantly faster than a rm -r /usr/obj/*, the
difference in the nearly five-day build time Just Doesn't Matter. :)
Nick.
Things putt along slowly for a while, then suddenly someone puts decides
debugging symbols would make a lot of sense in the libraries, and
BOOM...Nick is off to find another disk for his mac68k build machine. A
great improvement, no doubt, but not without expected side-effects.
Fortunately, my part
lly see that is Business, and there it's all
selfish, unlike here.
-Nick
t one service,
but usually, by the time you have figured that all out, you could have
just rebooted.
See:
http://www.openbsd.org/stable.html
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html , especially sections 5.1, 5.4
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#AddFileSet
Nick.
(who runs ONLY enough -release/-stable to verify the upgradeXX.html
instructions are valid)
all equal, there wouldn't be two different kernels. :)
Nick.
wpa
Kind regards
Didier
I would too, but I remember a while back (but cannot find the message
now) Theo saying that WPA gives a false sense of security and that it
would never be implemented. He didn't explain why. Does anyone else
remember this?
-Nick
ond FFS and aim a little higher?
+++chefren
Chefren,
I'm interested in this topic too, but I know that misc@ is not the
place for it. Anyway, if you want to play with different filesystems
go to linux.
-Nick
Looks like 3.9 and 4.0 are both missing the new DST rules -
src/share/zoneinfo/datfiles/northamerica was patched on Oct 29.
Should this be an errata?
-N
sd.org/faq/faq5.html#ProbXComp :
"Cross-compiling tools are in the system, for use by developers
bringing up a new platform. However, they are not maintained for
general use."
Nick.
at
will make your life unpleasant.
If you gotta ask "how" and "where", the answer is "no". Sorry...
Nick.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but he's not marketing a brand, he's
fulfilling a market request. He's keeping some of the proceeds that he
earned by spending his time, and initially, his money, so that we have
these products available. It doesn't seem quiet unreas
ers.
ON THE OTHER HAND, upDATING (patching) by source is trivial. It Just
Works (when you follow the directions).
Nick.
cards worked and which didn't. That doesn't apply with the I2O
drivers.
Keep in mind, if that's your only 2400A card, if you build yourself
a wonderful RAID5 system and the adapter fails at some time in the
future, you will be hoping you had a good backup. In my mind, that's
a bigger concern.
Nick.
Patrick Useldinger wrote:
> Nick Holland wrote:
>
>> UpGRADING (changing functionality, changing version numbers) from source
>> is HARD. Having thousands of people thinking they should be able to
>> build a new version from some arbitrary old version by source is a
>&
oftware/gnash/> has been added to ports and upon
release it will become a package too.
-Nick
On 1/17/07, Travers Buda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:29:20 -0500
"Nick Guenther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Seeing the hardline the devs take against driver binary blobs it's
> unlikely. However, I am looking forward myself to 4.1,
i get the source and try to compile it on OB 4.0
but some errors stop the compilation
It only supports up to flash 4, and doesn't do sound (it uses OSS;
OpenBSD has an OSS layer but it didn't work for me). I tried to hack
on it for a night once but my sore lack of ioctl skillz killed that
plan.
-Nick
If you haven't already seen it on undeadly.org this might be what
you're after:
http://spootnik.org/hoststated/hoststated_introduction.html
Cheers
On 18 Jan 2007, at 18:08, Jeff Simmons wrote:
I'm setting up some auto-failover web servers (load balancing isn't
needed).
CARP would seem ide
begin advertising as master.
So...what advskew (the variable) is doing is manipulating advbase (the
concept).
However, if that is the author's intention, it isn't as clear as we can
probably make it. There are a couple other oddities in that paragraph, so
I've sent a diff up-stream for comments...
Nick.
pletely negated by the fact that 4.0 won't
work. (though, admittedly, you can't beat the stability and security
of a non-functioning system. :)
Nick.
Can
you reconfig things on the fly? In theory, yes. Should you? No, at
least if you aren't reading the script files to understand how it all
works together, and even then, schedule that reboot SOON so you can
check for fat-fingering...
Nick.
ages and they all say how to create
a VPN between two OpenBSD boxes. Fine, but that's not
what I need. There was a page on openbsd.cz that's not
there anymore.
Please, please help!
You mean, how to set up IPSec on windows? 1 second on google found me:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/ipsec/default.mspx
Have fun
-Nick
rule, your system is pretty darned secure, as
even if someone knocks over httpd, all they can do is LOOK at other
sites, they can't deface them.
Nick.
Patrick Useldinger wrote:
> Otto Moerbeek wrote:
>> How are we supposed to help if you omit all relevant info? dmesg,
>> disklabels, fdisk info...
>
> A good start would be to read my post, all the information is there.
> Except for dmesg, which is not useful in this case.
>
> -pu
Bullshit.
Yo
rts.
Could there be exploits in firmware? Sadly, it might be possible.
But then, the same kind of exploits could exist in the ROM-based
devices; after all, they (usually) have RAM as well to store data, so
a buffer overflow could allow code to be put into the RAM and run.
The firmware vs. ROM really doesn't change anything there.
Nick.
pen.
You could also use the "noatime" option of mount/fstab, see mount(8).
You could use pre-loaded MFS
or you could just not worry about it. :)
At the price these things are hitting now, I'm suspicious the failures
of them won't be due to excess write cycles...
Nick.
as the
amount we are wasting here (5M). In my basement is a PDP-11/23 that
can supposedly (just barely) run an early Unix on its 14" 5M drives.
So yes, it hurts to lose that much space, but they keep telling me to
get over it.
:)
Nick.
? If trunk(4) isn't able to handle this, what would?
Thanks
Nick
irq 10 for native-PCI interrupt
wd4 at pciide2 channel 1 drive 0:
wd4: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 953878MB, 1953542144 sectors
wd4(pciide2:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
...
(yes, one mirroring box, four RAID5 boxes. The mirroring box is for
the OS and some stuff where it might sometime be handy to "break the
mirror", the RAID5 boxes are for "heavy lifting" mass data storage).
Nick.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
dangit... forgot to fix that. 8-/
yes, that was me...
Nick.
owever)
Nick.
laptop were supported, but on -current I'm hard pressed
to find anything that doesn't. I've got apm support and est is working
too.
// nick
s right now. However, to be sure of that now is
the time to help the devs test this new code. If you feel up to it you
can always install a snapshot and see how this new code works for you.
Should you give it a go, then don't forget to start your apmd with
"-f /dev/acpi".
Good luck.
// nick
as looking fine (apart from the
> problem that I didn't get any dhcp offer?).
With problems like these a dmesg will make people be more interested in
your problem. Without that advice is most likely a best guess.
// nick
Henning would be able to help you out more than I would.
Best Regards,
Nick
Lars Hansson wrote:
Nigel Roberts wrote:
Is it possible to configure an area in ospfd.conf to be a stub area?
Yes, use the "passive" option. It's in the ospfd.conf man page.
---
Lars Hansson
HINK their machine is just like
yours, but is very different in subtle but critical ways...
.. OR, since you already have the machine, try it out!
Nothing beats "working fine" tests done on your own hardware on your
own application.
Nick.
thanks for the dmesg, it does seem to be recognizing your
controller and drive properly...
How about your partition tables? Do you have an 'a' partition? How
about showing us the output of 'fdisk sd0' and 'disklabel sd0' after
it chokes?
Nick.
> dmesg:
> OpenBSD
eady in use
> pccom2: irq 5 already in use
And that tells us more.
Note that it's pccom1 and pccom2, but no pccom0... pccom devices are
ISA devices, so they can't share IRQs with PCI devices (though, of
course, PCI devices can share IRQs with each other). So that's why
com0 didn't work, and the IRQ conflict won't make com1 and com2 work
very well...
Take a close look at your machine config (most likely, the BIOS setup
program), you will probably find non-standard configs for the two
serial ports. You might need to "tag" IRQ 3 as "Reserved for ISA" or
similar.
Nick.
wise, but it's not lagging that much behind. I'll take the
cleanness, easy of use & stability any day over a 10% performance
difference. And that's not even going into the free code debate, it's
hard to get more free than openbsd.
// nick
n it comes to randomized
malloc & mmap. The slides from bsdcan 2004 state: "still failry
expensive", the slides from opencon 2005 no longer mention anything
about performance.
// nick
Damon McMahon wrote:
> Thanks for the response, Nick, I'm almost there and just one further query:
>
> On 18/02/07, Nick Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> The Aptiva has an anaemic BIOS program, but by disabling one of the
> two serial interfaces I now app
?
Many thanks in advance...
Nick
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"router", you are probably running PF, so
just filter the services from the outside that you don't want the
outside world to get to (probably, all of them). Don't break your box
on some very misguided attempt to do stupid things in the name of
"security".
Nick.
You and me, both. :)
However,
If it is a multi-processor machine, both would be nice. There are
differences in how OpenBSD "sees" the machine between GENERIC and
GENERIC.MP, so seeing both is useful.
Nick.
d switches (ok, maybe that's just been my luck)
If you really believe it isn't any of the above, tell us how your
machine is hooked up, what you tested, what you expected, what you
saw, etc. Simply saying "it's slow" doesn't help us track it down
much, you understand...
Nick.
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