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On Nov 19, 2009, at 12:57 PM, stan wrote:
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 03:08:25PM -0500, Dave Anderson wrote:
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, stan wrote:
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:24:44AM -0500, Dave Anderson wrote:
On Thu, 19 Nov
someone else also just pointed out the diagnostic properties of eye
ache pattern off-list too.
So I guess it's ~/.xinitrc in site.tgz for me then.
/Pete
On 19. nov.. 2009, at 21.24, J.C. Roberts wrote:
As long as you promise not to hate me for taking the other side of
things, the default
It seems the 'r' flag isn't mentioned on the man page.
I glanced at the code and it seems to do something
very similar to 'R'.
I also noticed that you cannot use both flags together.
In FreeBSD and NetBSD this code exists too and again
it isn't mentioned on the man page.
Any special reason for it
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Rodolfo Gouveia wrote:
> It seems the 'r' flag isn't mentioned on the man page.
> I glanced at the code and it seems to do something
> very similar to 'R'.
>
>From man cp ("STANDARDS" section):
Historic versions of the cp utility had a -r option. This
implem
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 04:16:58PM -0600, J Sisson wrote:
> >From man cp ("STANDARDS" section):
> Historic versions of the cp utility had a -r option. This
> implementation
> supports that option; however, its use is strongly discouraged, as it
> does not correctly copy special file
Rodolfo Gouveia wrote on Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 05:06:10PM -0500:
> It seems the 'r' flag isn't mentioned on the man page.
schwa...@gini $ man cp | tail -n 9
Historic versions of the cp utility had a -r option. This implementation
supports that option; however, its use is strongly disco
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 14:06, Rodolfo Gouveia wrote:
> It seems the 'r' flag isn't mentioned on the man page.
> I glanced at the code and it seems to do something
> very similar to 'R'.
> I also noticed that you cannot use both flags together.
> In FreeBSD and NetBSD this code exists too and agai
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 05:06:10PM -0500, Rodolfo Gouveia wrote:
> It seems the 'r' flag isn't mentioned on the man page.
> I glanced at the code and it seems to do something
> very similar to 'R'.
> I also noticed that you cannot use both flags together.
> In FreeBSD and NetBSD this code exists t
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 05:56:15PM +0200, Gregory Edigarov wrote:
> Hello,
>
> just wonder is there any information about it available?
> I mean the source is good to look for details but I would like to have
> a big picture first.
The source code is really rather simple, you should be able to wo
Not all mpi support RAID and not all mpi CAN support RAID. The ones
that do have a FLASH part (can be BIOS) but they require a firmware that
supports it. Either it has the extension of IR (Integrated RAID) on the
version number or in CTRL-C you have RAID properties which means you can
create RAID
On 20/11/2009, at 11:17 AM, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
Rodolfo Gouveia wrote on Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 05:06:10PM -0500:
It seems the 'r' flag isn't mentioned on the man page.
schwa...@gini $ man cp | tail -n 9
Historic versions of the cp utility had a -r option. This
implementation
sup
but still no man pages...
tsk tsk tsk
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:26:05PM +0100, Jacek Masiulaniec wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 05:56:15PM +0200, Gregory Edigarov wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > just wonder is there any information about it available?
> > I mean the source is good to look for detai
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:45:03AM +1300, Paul M wrote:
> This always confused me - Presumably there is some reason why the
> implimentation
> of the -r flag could not be fixed to copy symlinks, FIFOs, etc
> correctly.
Existing scripts could rely on the behaviour of the history -r;
changing it c
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Paul M wrote:
...
> This always confused me - Presumably there is some reason why the
> implimentation
> of the -r flag could not be fixed to copy symlinks, FIFOs, etc correctly.
>
> Anybody have any insight here? Why would a new flag be needed?
To quote the RATIO
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 04:48:06PM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> but still no man pages...
>
> tsk tsk tsk
It's worth noting that thanks to syncing done by eric@ and pyr@ at
c2k9, the imsg lib is now possible, and thus the doc will come when
the lib is done.
Has anyone gotten this system set up so you can use three NICs and connect to
the Service Processor on the fourth?
I got console redirected to the SP easily enough, and have tried disabling and
cloning bge* via config(8) so it only binds to one of the bge ports as opposed
to both of them.
The int
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 07:17:18PM -0600, Chris Bennett wrote:
> I am now going to be setting up occasionally but regularly OpenBSD
> machines for people who only speak Spanish.
>
> I have already found the language packs for kde, openoffice, firefox and
> thunderbird.
>
> I just accidentally f
On 20/11/2009, at 12:09 PM, Philip Guenther wrote:
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Paul M wrote:
...
This always confused me - Presumably there is some reason why the
implimentation
of the -r flag could not be fixed to copy symlinks, FIFOs, etc
correctly.
Anybody have any insight here? Why
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, stan wrote:
>On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 03:08:25PM -0500, Dave Anderson wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, stan wrote:
>>
>> >On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:24:44AM -0500, Dave Anderson wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, stan wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:03:27PM -0500, D
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Bryan Allen wrote:
> Has anyone gotten this system set up so you can use three NICs and connect
to
> the Service Processor on the fourth?
>
> I got console redirected to the SP easily enough, and have tried disabling
and
> cloning bge* via config(8) so it only bind
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:11:23AM +0100, Jacek Masiulaniec wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 04:48:06PM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> > but still no man pages...
> >
> > tsk tsk tsk
>
> It's worth noting that thanks to syncing done by eric@ and pyr@ at
> c2k9, the imsg lib is now possible, and
>From Network World:
NSA helped with Windows 7 development
Privacy expert voices 'backdoor' concerns, security researchers dismiss idea
By Gregg Keizer , Computerworld , 11/18/2009
This story appeared on Network World at
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/111809-nsa-helped-with-windows-7.htm
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Joachim Schipper
wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:55:03PM -0700, Bob Beck wrote:
>> 2009/11/18 Janusz Gumkowski :
>> >> Is it at all possible to have more than 992 simultaneous authpf users ?
>> >>
>> >
>>
>> Yes, use more than one machine.
>>
>> > Digging out a
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On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 16:59, Bryan wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 15:43, Obiozor Okeke
wrote:
>> From Network World:
>>
>> NSA helped with Windows 7 development
>> Privacy expert voices 'backdoor' concerns, security researchers dismiss
idea
>> By Gregg Keizer , Computerworld , 11/18/2009
>>
>
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:40 PM, rhubbell wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:05:04 -0800
> Bryan wrote:
>
>> So glad we don't have these kinds of issues...
>
> New around here, but I'm noticing a lot of tooting of our own horn...so to
> speak. With all the possible vectors for compromising a system
+--
| On 2009-11-19 16:25:47, Brent Jones wrote:
|
| On the old ELOM systems, AFAIK you need to define the ELOM port's
| behavior inside the system BIOS.
| Its hokey, and even Solaris/OpenSolaris have issues with those ELO
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Robert wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:44:51 +0100
> Robert wrote:
>
>> # kdump ktrace.out
> kdump -f ...
>
>
Yeah, you'd have to create a "crunched" binary containing the tools
you'd need to run shell scripts and the like.
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Markus Bergkvist
wrote:
> It was said in
> http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=125139976027774&w=2
> that stacking RAID sets is not a good idea. I.e. this
>
> # bioctl -ih softraid0
> Volume Status Size Device
> softraid0 0 Online 447G
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:02:51 +1100
Aaron Mason wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:40 PM, rhubbell wrote:
> > On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:05:04 -0800
> > Bryan wrote:
> >
> >> So glad we don't have these kinds of issues...
> >
> > New around here, but I'm noticing a lot of tooting of our own
> > horn..
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 2:06 PM, rhubbell wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:02:51 +1100
>
> Definitely not missing the point. Maybe you missed mine. Not "worrying"
> because you trust everything about OpenBSD and everyone that's worked on
> it and every package you've installed and every piece of ha
The web site is in spanish and with good info !
http://www.openbsdcolombia.org/
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 07:17:18PM -0600, Chris Bennett wrote:
> > I am now going to be setting up occasionally but regularly OpenBSD
> > machines for peop
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:06:53 -0800, rhubbell wrote:
8>< snipped for brevity.
>> You miss the point - the reason we toot that particular horn is that
>> you don't have to worry about those sorts of things (well, apart from
>
>Definitely not missing the point. Maybe you missed mine. Not "worrying"
>b
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Jona Joachim wrote:
> I was wondering whether there is a special reason why OpenBSD doesn't
> include the wordexp/wordfree functions. It seems like they are part of
> POSIX.1 and OpenBSD does feature the similar glob(3) function.
No, there's no particular reason.
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:03 PM, John Mendenhall wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:19 PM, John Mendenhall
wrote:
>> > I have several openbsd 4.4 boxes, all of which are running
>> > spamd. I have a cron job which runs a script, which has the
>> > following commands in it:
>>
>> Well, sort is ob
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Aaron Mason
wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Joachim Schipper
> wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:55:03PM -0700, Bob Beck wrote:
>>> 2009/11/18 Janusz Gumkowski :
>>> >> Is it at all possible to have more than 992 simultaneous authpf users
?
>>> >>
>>>
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On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Obiozor Okeke wrote:
> From Network World:
>
> NSA helped with Windows 7 development
> Privacy expert voices 'backdoor' concerns, security researchers dismiss
> idea
> By Gregg Keizer , Computerworld , 11/18/2009
>
Why would NSA need backdoors when they have a fr
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 07:51:50 +0100, Peter Hessler wrote:
>Check out the port net/openbsd_bsdauth. While not PAM auth, it will
>actually work on OpenBSD.
>
Uhhh PH, did you not mean net/openvpn_bsdauth ?
Too many Opens gets confusing quite easily.
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On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:55:03PM -0700, Bob Beck wrote:
> 2009/11/18 Janusz Gumkowski :
> >> Is it at all possible to have more than 992 simultaneous authpf users ?
> >>
> >
>
> Yes, use more than one machine.
>
> > Digging out an old post of mine, still not having any real solution
> > but a c
Hi,
Having just installed 4.6 on my sunblade100 I'm truly very impressed
by the recent advances in OpenBSD's X implementation - after a very
rapid run through the improved install script, X started flawlessly
with a usable (and accelerated) session. The automatic correct
keyboard layout i
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Pete Vickers:
in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 a line "xsetroot -solid gray" above the
xconsole entry ?
The default background is very useful to check whether the monitor
detected correctly by the way. Everyone can change it in their .xinitrc.
Stas
Hi all again
is the question too trivial or nobody is experiencing the same problem? :)
Thank you in advance!
> Dear All,
>
> I am having a doubt about the following scenario. We have two bgp
> routers, arp-balanced with carp. Both routers are running bgpd and
> everything looks nice. But I se
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nobody has that problem. I just ask for two mac entries at IXes.
there is no solution for you (well, you could sit down and code, but -
warning: very much nontrivial, maybe completely undoable)
* Paolo Di Francesco [2009-11-19 13:26]:
> Hi all again
>
> is the question too trivial or nobody is
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 00:58, Abel Abraham Camarillo Ojeda <
acam...@the00z.org> wrote:
> I also don't like too much translating... but can help whenever
> possible (native spanish speaker).
>
> It's just that all the people that I know that can use (thoroughly)
> OpenBSD in my city can also read
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:35:35AM -0300, Hugo Osvaldo Barrera wrote:
>
>I'd very much like to help translate, specially the FAQ and the website.
>However, should this be discussed in misc@ or www@ ?
Please read http://www.OpenBSD.org/translation.html and contact one
of the coordinators.
Maurice
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:35:35 -0300
Hugo Osvaldo Barrera wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 00:58, Abel Abraham Camarillo Ojeda <
> acam...@the00z.org> wrote:
>
> > I also don't like too much translating... but can help whenever
> > possible (native spanish speaker).
> >
> > It's just that all the
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:03:27PM -0500, Dave Anderson wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009, stan wrote:
>
> >On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 05:00:02PM -0500, Dave Anderson wrote:
> >> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009, stan wrote:
> >>
> >> >Can anyone xplain this behavior to me?
> >>
> >> Without access to your nameservers
When your machine does support hardware raid (and you intend to run Open
BSD on it, of course), what is the general consensus about the "Right
Thing To Do"?
The machine is an IBM xSeries 335 (dmesg follows) and the embedded raid
controller gets identified as a"Symbios Logic 53c1030" (supported
Looks like they are sending a delete. I guess I will delete and recreate
this tunnel
isakmpd: Peer 1.1.1.1 made us delete live SA for proto 1,
initiator id: 1.1.1.1, responde
r id: 2.2.2.2
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Christoph Leser
wrote:
> Are you sure that obsd does not try to initiat
If you're doing RAID for redundancy/safety then there are some things to
consider:
* hardware RAID w/ good controller can be very fast and reliable
* if your RAID controller goes out then your data is unreadable unless
you have a backup controller!
* with RAID, you should still do backups
Lik
Hello,
just wonder is there any information about it available?
I mean the source is good to look for details but I would like to have
a big picture first.
--
With best regards,
Gregory Edigarov
2009/11/19 Cor :
> encryption, say, several simultaneous IPSec or ssh users. I'm looking at
> mini-ITX Atom boards as the basis for a multipurpose, CF-booting platform
> (firewall, X-terminal, NAS/backup server) I want to use at work. Each
Most Atom boards have only one nic; some have two but I
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, stan wrote:
>On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:03:27PM -0500, Dave Anderson wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009, stan wrote:
>>
>> >On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 05:00:02PM -0500, Dave Anderson wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009, stan wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Can anyone xplain this behavior to me?
>> >
mpi RAID 1 is pretty darn good. That is, if you have the right firmware
that supports it (IR firmware).
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 03:02:20PM +0100, Mauro Rezzonico wrote:
> When your machine does support hardware raid (and you intend to run Open
> BSD on it, of course), what is the general consen
Martin Schrvder skrev:
2009/11/19 Cor :
encryption, say, several simultaneous IPSec or ssh users. I'm looking at
mini-ITX Atom boards as the basis for a multipurpose, CF-booting platform
(firewall, X-terminal, NAS/backup server) I want to use at work. Each
Most Atom boards have only one nic;
FAQ 15.2.3 (http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html#PkgFind) has links
to the package lists; but these produce a 404. FAQ or server error?
Best
Martin
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:24:44AM -0500, Dave Anderson wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, stan wrote:
>
> >On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:03:27PM -0500, Dave Anderson wrote:
> >> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009, stan wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 05:00:02PM -0500, Dave Anderson wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, 18 N
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 05:24:12PM +0100, Martin Schrvder wrote:
> 2009/11/19 Cor :
> > encryption, say, several simultaneous IPSec or ssh users. I'm looking at
> > mini-ITX Atom boards as the basis for a multipurpose, CF-booting platform
> > (firewall, X-terminal, NAS/backup server) I want to use
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 06:28:14PM +0100, Martin Schr?der wrote:
> FAQ 15.2.3 (http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html#PkgFind) has links
> to the package lists; but these produce a 404. FAQ or server error?
>
According to Stuart Henderson, it's a server issue.
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-ports&m=1
2009/11/19 ZPO :
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 05:24:12PM +0100, Martin Schrvder wrote:
>> Most Atom boards have only one nic; some have two but I know of none
>> that have more than two. Rumour has it that Intel doesn't allow more
>
> You may google: "Compact desktop network appliance with Intel ATOM
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Marco Peereboom wrote:
mpi RAID 1 is pretty darn good. That is, if you have the right firmware
that supports it (IR firmware).
Can you please elaborate on this? I cannot understand what you mean by
"IR firmware"...
"mpi RAID 1 is pretty darn good", said by the developer of the mpi(4)
drive
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, stan wrote:
>On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:24:44AM -0500, Dave Anderson wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, stan wrote:
>>
>> >On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:03:27PM -0500, Dave Anderson wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009, stan wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 05:00:02PM -0500, D
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:32:57 +0100 Pete Vickers
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Having just installed 4.6 on my sunblade100 I'm truly very impressed
> by the recent advances in OpenBSD's X implementation - after a very
> rapid run through the improved install script, X started flawlessly
> with a usable
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 03:08:25PM -0500, Dave Anderson wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, stan wrote:
>
> >On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:24:44AM -0500, Dave Anderson wrote:
> >> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, stan wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:03:27PM -0500, Dave Anderson wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, 18 N
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