L2 frame crc errors

2007-04-09 Thread Dan Farrell
Hello, I'm looking for a way to view L2 frame CRC errors on an interface. I've scoured netstat, but found nothing (from what I've seen it's all Layer 3 anyway). I googled and came up rather empty ("FCS error openBSD", "ethernet frame CRC errors openbsd", etc.) . The purpose for this is to

how to view Ethernet frame CRC errors

2007-04-09 Thread Dan Farrell
Hello, I'm looking for a way to view L2 frame CRC errors on an interface. I've scoured netstat, but found nothing (from what I've known of it it's all Layer 3 anyway). I googled and came up rather empty ("FCS error openBSD", "ethernet frame CRC errors openbsd", etc.) . The purpose for this is to

Re: Why gtk-gnutella stopped working

2007-04-09 Thread Keith Richardson
Karel Kulhavy wrote: Hello gtk-gnutella shipped with OpenBSD 4.0 is now obsolete and obsolete versions are banned after 1 year from the Gnutella network. If you are wondering, why it's suddenly not working, uninstall gtk-gnutella, download the official one, delete ~/.gtk-gnutella, do Configure

how to configure bridge interface [WAS: snort any interface]

2007-04-09 Thread Soner Tari
I cannot see any traffic on bridge0 with "tcpdump -i bridge0", so that's why I don't see any alerts on snort. My physical interfaces are already configured and have their own IP addresses. I need to assign different IPs to all 3 cards (LAN, WAN1, WAN2). And here is what I run on the command line t

Wireless access point being flakey

2007-04-09 Thread Chris Cameron
Have a Soekris with and Atheros AR5212. Wirelessly, out to the internet packets get dropped. Wired, out to the internet, no problem. This is with the same laptop using the same outbound internet connection. Wirelessly, from this laptop to the router no packets are dropped. From the router to s

Re: bcw(4) is gone

2007-04-09 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Fri, 2007-04-06 at 10:22 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > They stated that they don't want Broadcom to take their work and close > it. Why do they care? What possible difference does it make? > Broadcom will get a driver that actually works well? > They're not going to make any money off their

Re: bcw(4) is gone

2007-04-09 Thread Jeroen Massar
Shawn K. Quinn wrote: [..] > Nothing in the GPL prohibits commercial use of code released under the > GPL. It is perfectly fine to sell copies of GPLed code at any price. > What is *not* perfectly fine is to sell copies of GPLed code without > allowing access to the source code. Not exactly. The c

Re: bcw(4) is gone

2007-04-09 Thread Greg Thomas
On 4/9/07, Shawn K. Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 2007-04-06 at 10:22 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > They stated that they don't want Broadcom to take their work and close > it. Why do they care? What possible difference does it make? > Broadcom will get a driver that actually works

The ultimate dance night Vrijdag 13 APRIL "SYLVER"

2007-04-09 Thread the ultimate dance night SYLVER
Hallo, VRIJDAG 13 april 2007, gaat de ULTIMATE DANCE NIGHT terug door na een stilte van 3 jaar in EXPO GOWALT (Wetteren) naar aanleiding van het 10 jarig bestaan Optreden van SYLVER (rond half 1 voorzien) Dj's; RENEGADE (Extasis) RENIER (pancho villa, Vita) KRIS (Enjoy) BREMZY (Insomnia) BJORN (

Re: carp, ospf can't see carp state

2007-04-09 Thread François Rousseau
Hi Claudio, I have double check on my lab and everything work fine for the OSPF part, sorry for my mistake. But at the end, I'm still having the same problem: the server didn't know the right route. OSPF see all the route correctly but the system didn't seem to be updated. If I do "route show"

Re: bcw(4) is gone

2007-04-09 Thread Jessie D
Darren Spruell gmail.com> writes: > Also proving all the more that the GPL is without a doubt an extremely > short-sighted and self-serving reference to software freedom. Poison, > both in the sense of software licensing and developer mindset. What does any of this have to do with the license?!

Re: bcw(4) is gone

2007-04-09 Thread Tobias Weisserth
Hi there, On Apr 9, 2007, at 7:29 PM, Jeroen Massar wrote: ... GPL is good though if you want to force people to give back the code to you so that you can use it in your own dual-licensed projects. For people wanting true freedom of their code use: BSD or ISC it ;) The problem is the word

Re: bcw(4) is gone

2007-04-09 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Mon, 2007-04-09 at 18:29 +0100, Jeroen Massar wrote: > > The GPL is not about limiting commerical use of software. The GPL is > > about preserving freedom (i.e. "share and share alike"). The GNU Ada > > compiler is commerical software, which also happens to be released > > under the GPL. > That

Re: bcw(4) is gone

2007-04-09 Thread Jessie D
fastmail.net> writes: > > > > To ease his work, and to let others in our group to step in in his > > efforts, he committet it to our work area which we call cvs. > > A CVS is not by any stretch of the imagination a public repository > of code for anyone to use. Exactly. > So no code was rele

Re: bcw(4) is gone

2007-04-09 Thread Adam
Tobias Weisserth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The problem is the word "free". BSD people tend to interpret "free" > as "I can do whatever I want with that code! Hell, I can even make it > "unfree" again by turning it into a proprietary product!". Don't believe RMSs FUD. You can't turn code "

Re: bcw(4) is gone

2007-04-09 Thread Robby Workman
Tobias Weisserth wrote: >> GPL is good though if you want to force people to give back the code to >> you so that you can use it in your own dual-licensed projects. >> >> For people wanting true freedom of their code use: BSD or ISC it ;) > > The problem is the word "free". BSD people tend to int

OpenBSD with RBAC?

2007-04-09 Thread Lawal, Banji
I was wondering if anyone out there has used OpenBSD with RBAC. From what I have found out so far RBAC is only deployed with FreeBSD. If anyone has any info about this please let me know. Thanks, Banji

Re: waitpid() thread race

2007-04-09 Thread Brian Candler
On Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 11:09:55AM -0600, Philip Guenther wrote: > Instead of separating the obtaining of the pid from the actual > reaping, you can instead separate the blocking from the return of the > pid+reaping. That lets you lock the datastructure only when you know > wait() won't block. To

Re: OpenBSD with RBAC?

2007-04-09 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 02:46:32PM -0500, Lawal, Banji wrote: > I was wondering if anyone out there has used OpenBSD with RBAC. From > what I have found out so far RBAC is only deployed with FreeBSD. If > anyone has any info about this please let me know. You are right, that doesn't work on O

Re: waitpid() thread race

2007-04-09 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 09:10:39PM +0100, Brian Candler wrote: > I'm not saying that anything is actually wrong with the code you've > provided; rather, that it's difficult for me to understand the subtleties > involved in asynchronous signal-driven programming. And that's with a copy > of the Stev

Re: waitpid() thread race

2007-04-09 Thread Philip Guenther
On 4/9/07, Brian Candler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... Suppose child 1 dies, causing a SIGCHLD to be pending, and then a second child dies, before sigsuspend() unblocks the signal. sigsuspend returns, and one child is reaped. Next time around the loop, will the second child be reaped? If so, why

Re: bcw(4) is gone

2007-04-09 Thread Tobias Weisserth
Hi there, On Apr 9, 2007, at 8:40 PM, Jessie D wrote: fastmail.net> writes: To ease his work, and to let others in our group to step in in his efforts, he committet it to our work area which we call cvs. A CVS is not by any stretch of the imagination a public repository of code for anyone

Re: bcw(4) is gone

2007-04-09 Thread Tobias Weisserth
Hi there, On Apr 9, 2007, at 8:43 PM, Robby Workman wrote: It's not a matter of perspective - forced freedom is not freedom. That statement also is a matter of perspective. ;-) If you mean by "freedom", the liberty to do whatever you want, then BSD is freedom. If you mean by "freedom", th

Re: bcw(4) is gone

2007-04-09 Thread Tobias Weisserth
Hi there, On Apr 9, 2007, at 8:49 PM, Adam wrote: Tobias Weisserth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The problem is the word "free". BSD people tend to interpret "free" as "I can do whatever I want with that code! Hell, I can even make it "unfree" again by turning it into a proprietary product!".

Cruise Master Alaska Specials

2007-04-09 Thread Cruise Master
If the message is not formated, please copy below link in your browser http://www.cruisemaster-me.com/promo/alaska.htm Experience Alaska April 2007 Alaska's pristine lands

Binary kernel and base update

2007-04-09 Thread coolzone
Hi all. I have noticed that the OpenBSD team puts a lot of emphasis on using binary packets rather than building from ports, which I think IMHO is good, but why is it that there is no binary kernel updates, rather than patching the kernel from source? I am asking this not from a point that we fin

Re: bcw(4) is gone

2007-04-09 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 01:48:08AM +0200, Tobias Weisserth wrote: > Hi there, > > On Apr 9, 2007, at 8:43 PM, Robby Workman wrote: > > >It's not a matter of perspective - forced freedom is not freedom. blah blah blah

Re: bcw(4) is gone

2007-04-09 Thread Marco Peereboom
I have to reply to this horse shit. > Everything you said is true, fair and square. But does it really > change anything? A copyright owner can decide whatever he wants when > it comes to /his/ code. If he decides that other people may only use > it if they offer it under the same restrictio

Re: bcw(4) is gone

2007-04-09 Thread Tobias Weisserth
Hi there, On Apr 10, 2007, at 3:20 AM, Marco Peereboom wrote: It is because you do not understand the definition of free. Who the hell do you think you are that you can impose a definition of free on me? Freedom is also a matter of perception and perspective. I have given you a practical

Re: Binary kernel and base update

2007-04-09 Thread Steve Shockley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OpenBSD has really made a cool solution with pkg_add -u, but why not kernel and basesystem binary updates as well? You can do binary updates. On your build machine just update to -stable and do make release, then upgrade your machines.

Re: Binary kernel and base update

2007-04-09 Thread Han Boetes
Hi, Try this URL: http://www.google.nl/search?q=openbsd+binary+upgrade # Han

Re: Binary kernel and base update

2007-04-09 Thread Will Maier
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 01:43:56AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have noticed that the OpenBSD team puts a lot of emphasis on > using binary packets rather than building from ports, which I > think IMHO is good, but why is it that there is no binary kernel > updates, rather than patching the

Re: bcw(4) is gone

2007-04-09 Thread Marco Peereboom
> >It is because you do not understand the definition of free. > > Who the hell do you think you are that you can impose a definition of > free on me? Freedom is also a matter of perception and perspective. I > have given you a practical example which you simply rejected without > even consi

CARP access outside a subnet

2007-04-09 Thread david l goodrich
I have two hosts in a CARP group. on router-meus-cd1, i have the following network configuration: router-meus-cd1# ifconfig xennet1 xennet1: flags=8963 mtu 1500 capabilities=2800 enabled=0 address: 00:16:3e:71:ef:6f inet 10.10.10.2 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.1

Re: bcw(4) is gone

2007-04-09 Thread Darren Spruell
On 4/9/07, Tobias Weisserth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi there, On Apr 10, 2007, at 3:20 AM, Marco Peereboom wrote: > It is because you do not understand the definition of free. Who the hell do you think you are that you can impose a definition of free on me? Freedom is also a matter of perce

Re: bcw(4) is gone

2007-04-09 Thread Greg Thomas
On 4/9/07, Marco Peereboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >It is because you do not understand the definition of free. > > Who the hell do you think you are that you can impose a definition of > free on me? Freedom is also a matter of perception and perspective. I > have given you a practical examp

Re: bcw(4) is gone

2007-04-09 Thread Jason Dixon
On Apr 9, 2007, at 10:16 PM, Greg Thomas wrote: Unfuckingbelievable. Is there something in the GPL water that messes with its fans' brains and twists their realities??? The real hypocrisy is this: GPL advocates claim their license prevents commercial entities from stealing their freedom.

Re: bcw(4) is gone

2007-04-09 Thread Greg Thomas
On 4/9/07, Jason Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Apr 9, 2007, at 10:16 PM, Greg Thomas wrote: > Unfuckingbelievable. Is there something in the GPL water that messes > with its fans' brains and twists their realities??? The real hypocrisy is this: GPL advocates claim their license prevents

Re: bcw(4) is gone

2007-04-09 Thread Artur Grabowski
"Greg Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Nothing in the GPL prohibits commercial use of code released under the > > GPL. It is perfectly fine to sell copies of GPLed code at any price. > > What is *not* perfectly fine is to sell copies of GPLed code without > > allowing access to the source c

Re: bcw(4) is gone

2007-04-09 Thread Artur Grabowski
Tobias Weisserth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi there, > > On Apr 9, 2007, at 7:29 PM, Jeroen Massar wrote: > ... > > > GPL is good though if you want to force people to give back the > > code to > > you so that you can use it in your own dual-licensed projects. > > > > For people wanting true

Re: bcw(4) is gone

2007-04-09 Thread Adam
Tobias Weisserth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who the hell do you think you are that you can impose a definition of > free on me? Freedom is also a matter of perception and perspective. No, its the FSF trying to redefine the word free. The english language has had the word for a long time, and

Re: bcw(4) is gone

2007-04-09 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 08:20:33PM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote: > It is because you do not understand the definition of free. Let me > quote some relevant passages from dictionary.com: > * exempt from external authority, interference, restriction, etc. > * able to do something at will > * ex

Re: bcw(4) is gone

2007-04-09 Thread Lars Hansson
darren kirby wrote: This is not so much a response to you Steven, as to the entire OpenBSD community. Wide-sweeping incorrect generalizations are awesome. Can I make one too? All GPL developers are morons. See? That was fun, wasn't it? Who cares if it's correct, two wrongs make a right, doesn'

All new American Dentist Directory

2007-04-09 Thread Oscar stepwise
Just extracted - all new DENTIST Directory Fields: Dentist/Clinic Name, Postal Address, Phone, Fax, Email and Website Breakdown: 597,959 Total Records 6,494 Emails 6,000 Faxes Special price until Apr 13 - $249 For more information or to place an order please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: bcw(4) is gone

2007-04-09 Thread Lars Hansson
Tobias Weisserth wrote: Who the hell do you think you are that you can impose a definition of free on me? I dunno, who does RMS think he is imposing his definition of free on me? --- Lars Hansson

Problem installing DSPAM (with postfix)

2007-04-09 Thread Jean-Daniel Beaubien
Hi eveyrone, I am having a bit of trouble installing DSPAM with Postfix. The problem seems to be with the unix socket (and my lack of knowledge on the subjecT). Here is a small snippet of the config fordspam and postfix: -

Serial Port Network

2007-04-09 Thread Don Smith
I have 2 older desktop computers (old Pentium 1 processors), and I would like to create a simple network to allow them to ssh each other and share data. Problem is that one of them doesn't have USB, but only a serail port. I did a search of the archives, as well as a google search for "serial po

Re: Serial Port Network

2007-04-09 Thread Adam Hawes
Investigate PPP. You can start a PPP server on one and a PPP client on the other and they will immediately be able to to talk and share data. If all you need is remote login from one to the other investigate putting a console on the serial port of one machine then using something like Kermit or

Re: Serial Port Network

2007-04-09 Thread Marcus Watts
Don Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have 2 older desktop computers (old Pentium 1 processors), ... slip or ppp. You won't be doing much file sharing this way though, unless you're *very* patient. usb doesn't do peer<->peer networking, so I don't see what good that does you. You'd be *much

Re: waitpid() thread race

2007-04-09 Thread Brian Candler
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 01:40:06PM -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote: > On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 09:10:39PM +0100, Brian Candler wrote: > > I'm not saying that anything is actually wrong with the code you've > > provided; rather, that it's difficult for me to understand the subtleties > > involved in asy

Re: bcw(4) is gone

2007-04-09 Thread Timo Schoeler
On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 23:15:36 -0400 Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tobias Weisserth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Who the hell do you think you are that you can impose a definition > > of free on me? Freedom is also a matter of perception and > > perspective. > > No, its the FSF trying to re

Re: Problem installing DSPAM (with postfix)

2007-04-09 Thread Timo Schoeler
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 00:36:08 -0400 "Jean-Daniel Beaubien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi eveyrone, > > I am having a bit of trouble installing DSPAM with Postfix. The > problem seems to be with the unix socket (and my lack of knowledge on > the subjecT). > > > Here is a small snippet of the c

Re: bcw(4) is gone

2007-04-09 Thread RedShift
Marco Peereboom wrote: I have to reply to this horse shit. :-) *snip* Regarding freedom: Take the Linksys routing devices. They ship with GPL software. Taking what you said as an example, it would be OK if Linksys made proprietary changes to the free software and deliver a closed sof