Cannot upgrade from 3.8

2007-04-04 Thread Antti Harri
Hello, I have a machine that I'm not able to upgrade because the machine won't boot newer kernels. They're hanging right after SATA init and it also displays different SATA/pciide chip model (VT6420) than with 3.8. I've tried 3.9-release from official CD, 4.0-release and 4.1-release kernels and

Re: Cannot upgrade from 3.8

2007-04-04 Thread Jonas Thambert
I have several servers with the same problem. The solution has always been to disable one or two drivers that conflicts. To be able to upgrade the servers (DL380 G4) we have that uses Adaptec 2101S cards we had to disable iopsp* driver on boot. Before we had to disable the ciss driver on some se

Fw: Security Development Lifecycle (SDL) Banned Function Calls

2007-04-04 Thread Stephan A. Rickauer
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Re: 802.11 Bridge

2007-04-04 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/04/03 21:25, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > > I have a rather simple question. I believe that OpenBSD does not > support 802.11 WDS mode that basically repeats a wireless signial. > > Would it be possible to effectively emulate this with the bridge command? (802.11 implements it's own ACK sc

Re: 802.11 Bridge

2007-04-04 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
On 4/4/07, Stuart Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2007/04/03 21:25, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > > I have a rather simple question. I believe that OpenBSD does not > support 802.11 WDS mode that basically repeats a wireless signial. > > Would it be possible to effectively emulate this with th

Re: 802.11 Bridge

2007-04-04 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/04/04 04:37, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > > > >> is there some way I can put 6 PCI cards in one AP and use a Bridge > >> command to emulate WDS > > > >In the same box? That is not likely to work well, if at all; the radios > >will interfere with each other. > > > in your opinion Would it be bet

wireless on OpenBSD : ath(4) or ral(4) ?

2007-04-04 Thread Vincent GROSS
Hi folks, I've decided to get myself a wireless card to have an opportunity to play with wireless w/o being limited by Intel's licenses and iwi firmware. I looked at http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#37, then http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#39. From 3.7 I retained ral(4) and ath(4), but ath(4

Booting a Thinkpad T23

2007-04-04 Thread sweetnsourbkr
I'm trying into install OpenBSD 4.0 onto my laptop. It's a Pentium 3 1.13 MHz with 768MB RAM. I burned an install CD following the installation instructions. I buned the cd40.iso first, started a multisession CD. Then afterwards, burned the rest of the packages and finished the multisession C

Re: Booting a Thinkpad T23

2007-04-04 Thread Kamil Monticolo
On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 06:23:54 -0700 (PDT) sweetnsourbkr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm trying into install OpenBSD 4.0 onto my laptop. It's a Pentium 3 1.13 > MHz with 768MB RAM. > > I burned an install CD following the installation instructions. I buned the > cd40.iso first, started a multis

Re: wireless on OpenBSD : ath(4) or ral(4) ?

2007-04-04 Thread Nick !
On 4/4/07, Vincent GROSS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1) what is the R.E. level of ath(4) ? fully understood, mainly understood ? 2) Is Atheros still reluctant to disclose documentation for its chips ? 3) If 1)=fully and 2)=reluctant, what should I pick between ath(4) and ral(4) ? ral(4). I h

Re: Booting a Thinkpad T23

2007-04-04 Thread Timo Schoeler
> I'm trying into install OpenBSD 4.0 onto my laptop. It's a Pentium 3 1.13 > MHz with 768MB RAM. > > I burned an install CD following the installation instructions. I buned the > cd40.iso first, started a multisession CD. Then afterwards, burned the rest > of the packages and finished the mu

Re: Booting a Thinkpad T23

2007-04-04 Thread Jussi Peltola
Try pressing the key that brings up the boot device menu (F12 on my ThinkPads, IIRC). I've often found it won't ever boot from CD if there is a valid MBR on the HD without using the menu (that makes it boot faster...) -- Jussi Peltola

Re: wireless on OpenBSD : ath(4) or ral(4) ?

2007-04-04 Thread Marius ROMAN
ral(4) because it's better supported. On 4/4/07, Nick ! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 4/4/07, Vincent GROSS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 1) what is the R.E. level of ath(4) ? fully understood, mainly understood ? > > 2) Is Atheros still reluctant to disclose documentation for its chips ? > >

Re: Booting a Thinkpad T23

2007-04-04 Thread Nick Holland
sweetnsourbkr wrote: > I'm trying into install OpenBSD 4.0 onto my laptop. It's a Pentium 3 1.13 > MHz with 768MB RAM. > > I burned an install CD following the installation instructions. I buned the > cd40.iso first, started a multisession CD. Then afterwards, burned the rest > of the package

wireless on OpenBSD : ath(4) or ral(4) ?

2007-04-04 Thread Vincent GROSS
On 4/4/07, Marius ROMAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ral(4) because it's better supported. On 4/4/07, Nick ! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/4/07, Vincent GROSS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > 1) what is the R.E. level of ath(4) ? fully understood, mainly understood ? > > > > 2) Is Atheros

Re: Booting a Thinkpad T23

2007-04-04 Thread sweetnsourbkr
Timo Schoeler-4 wrote: > > i bet the CD is crap. > I tried burning this CD 3 times and none of them worked, so that's out. I'm almost certain that the CD drive is old enough that it doesn't boot from multisession CDs (that's so unusual for me. ;) ) I will try to burn a cd-rw with cd40.iso firs

Re: Booting a Thinkpad T23

2007-04-04 Thread Igor Sobrado
Check BIOS settings too... Don't know about the current status of OpenBSD on these fine laptops, but you will probably need to boot to UKC and disable ahc0. This change is (was?) required for installation kernels only. GENERIC kernels do not need this workaround to boot... but you will need to b

Re: Booting a Thinkpad T23

2007-04-04 Thread Vincent GROSS
On 4/4/07, Kamil Monticolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 06:23:54 -0700 (PDT) sweetnsourbkr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm trying into install OpenBSD 4.0 onto my laptop. It's a Pentium 3 1.13 > MHz with 768MB RAM. > > I burned an install CD following the installation instruct

Re: Booting a Thinkpad T23

2007-04-04 Thread sweetnsourbkr
Nick Holland wrote: > > Try doing it right: Burn cd40.iso, boot from that. Multi-session adds > unneeded complication. > Thanks Nick. You're probably right. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Booting-a-Thinkpad-T23-tf3525744.html#a9837972 Sent from the openbsd user - mis

Re: Booting a Thinkpad T23

2007-04-04 Thread sweetnsourbkr
Jussi Peltola wrote: > > Try pressing the key that brings up the boot device menu (F12 on my > ThinkPads, IIRC). > I've often found it won't ever boot from CD if there is a valid MBR > on the HD without using the menu (that makes it boot faster...) > I tried that, *and* disabling the hard drive

monitoring raid with mpi

2007-04-04 Thread Thierry Lacoste
I installed OpenBSD on a Dell PowerEdge with a raid1 array controlled by a SAS 5iR controller thanks to the new mpi driver. mpi0 at pci2 dev 8 function 0 "Symbios Logic SAS1068" rev 0x01: irq 5 scsibus0 at mpi0: 63 targets sd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd0: 69618MB, 69618 cyl

Re: wireless on OpenBSD : ath(4) or ral(4) ?

2007-04-04 Thread Bryan
If you have trouble finding ral wireless, Wim's site has ral MiniPCI cards. Just buy an adapter for PCI and you're good to go... www.kd85.com ( he is overseas, but it's worth the wait.) On 4/4/07, Vincent GROSS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 4/4/07, Marius ROMAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ra

Re: Booting a Thinkpad T23

2007-04-04 Thread sweetnsourbkr
Igor Sobrado wrote: > > I will suggest too buying the OS media for 4.1; this way you will be > not only supporting the OpenBSD project but also getting a CD-ROM media > that you know will be bootable. > I have been experimenting with OpenBSD for a couple of years now, on and off. I am now begin

Re: Booting a Thinkpad T23

2007-04-04 Thread sweetnsourbkr
Igor Sobrado wrote: > > I will suggest too buying the OS media for 4.1; this way you will be > not only supporting the OpenBSD project but also getting a CD-ROM media > that you know will be bootable. > I have been experimenting with OpenBSD for a couple of years now, on and off. I am now begin

Re: monitoring raid with mpi

2007-04-04 Thread Chris Black
Thierry Lacoste wrote: > I installed OpenBSD on a Dell PowerEdge with > a raid1 array controlled by a SAS 5iR controller > thanks to the new mpi driver. > > mpi0 at pci2 dev 8 function 0 "Symbios Logic SAS1068" rev 0x01: irq 5 > scsibus0 at mpi0: 63 targets > sd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: SCSI3 0/

Re: Booting a Thinkpad T23

2007-04-04 Thread John Gould
On Wed, 4 Apr 2007, sweetnsourbkr wrote: Timo Schoeler-4 wrote: i bet the CD is crap. I tried burning this CD 3 times and none of them worked, so that's out. I'm almost certain that the CD drive is old enough that it doesn't boot from multisession CDs (that's so unusual for me. ;) ) I wil

Re: Booting a Thinkpad T23

2007-04-04 Thread David Given
sweetnsourbkr wrote: [...] > I tried burning this CD 3 times and none of them worked, so that's out. I'm > almost certain that the CD drive is old enough that it doesn't boot from > multisession CDs (that's so unusual for me. ;) ) I will try to burn a cd-rw > with cd40.iso first, and then insert t

Re: Booting a Thinkpad T23

2007-04-04 Thread a . velichinsky
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 06:23:54AM -0700, sweetnsourbkr wrote: > I'm trying into install OpenBSD 4.0 onto my laptop. It's a Pentium 3 1.13 > MHz with 768MB RAM. > > I burned an install CD following the installation instructions. I buned the > cd40.iso first, started a multisession CD. Then af

Re: monitoring raid with mpi

2007-04-04 Thread Thierry Lacoste
On Wednesday 04 April 2007 17:37, Chris Black wrote: > Thierry Lacoste wrote: > > I installed OpenBSD on a Dell PowerEdge with > > a raid1 array controlled by a SAS 5iR controller > > thanks to the new mpi driver. > > > > mpi0 at pci2 dev 8 function 0 "Symbios Logic SAS1068" rev 0x01: irq 5 > > scs

Re: wireless on OpenBSD : ath(4) or ral(4) ?

2007-04-04 Thread Obiozor Okeke
Yes, good choice. I've had great success with ral(4) supported wireless pci and pcmcia cards i.e. from edimax ew-7608pg/7628ig (cheap cards i know but it works for what i need!) Vincent GROSS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 4/4/07, Marius ROMAN wrote: > ral(4) because it's better supported. > >

Re: Booting a Thinkpad T23

2007-04-04 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Wed, 4 Apr 2007, sweetnsourbkr wrote: > Timo Schoeler-4 wrote: > > > > i bet the CD is crap. > > > > I tried burning this CD 3 times and none of them worked, so that's out. I'm > almost certain that the CD drive is old enough that it doesn't boot from > multisession CDs (that's so unusual for

Re: Booting a Thinkpad T23

2007-04-04 Thread sweetnsourbkr
John Gould wrote: > > Burn a single session CD-R it should just work! Why are you trying to make > and boot a multi session CD? There really is no need! > The packages aren't included in cd40.iso, are they? From what I understand, I must either do what I did, or burn 2 CDs, one for the boot pr

Re: Booting a Thinkpad T23

2007-04-04 Thread sweetnsourbkr
Adi-9 wrote: > > If you try to make a bootable multisession disk, use > mkisofs ... -b path/to/cdrom40.fs ... > for both the first and the last session you're creating, and don't > forget to close the last session. > Are you saying I should burn the cd40.iso image twice? I've never had to

Re: test

2007-04-04 Thread a . velichinsky
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A backwards approach to upgrading.

2007-04-04 Thread Peter Fraser
I use an approach to upgrading that I have not seen written anywhere. It does need additional space in the root partition but with disks these days that is not normally a problem. First copy away the "important parts" of the root partition onto another partition. What is the "important parts" is u

Re: A backwards approach to upgrading.

2007-04-04 Thread Walter Goulet
What problem with the existing upgrade procedures is solved with your new approach? On 4/4/07, Peter Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I use an approach to upgrading that I have not seen written anywhere. It does need additional space in the root partition but with disks these days that is not n

Re: Booting a Thinkpad T23

2007-04-04 Thread a . velichinsky
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 10:41:12AM -0700, sweetnsourbkr wrote: > Adi-9 wrote: > > > > If you try to make a bootable multisession disk, use > > mkisofs ... -b path/to/cdrom40.fs ... > > for both the first and the last session you're creating, and don't > > forget to close the last session. > >

Re: A backwards approach to upgrading.

2007-04-04 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Wed, 4 Apr 2007, Peter Fraser wrote: > I use an approach to upgrading that I have not seen written > anywhere. It does need additional space in the root partition > but with disks these days that is not normally a problem. > > First copy away the "important parts" of the root partition > onto

Re: A backwards approach to upgrading.

2007-04-04 Thread Peter Fraser
Quoting from http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade41.html Upgrading is a convenient way to bring your OpenBSD system up to the most recent version. However, the results are not intended to precisely match the results of a wipe-and-reload installation. Old library files in particular are not removed i

Re: Widescreen flat panel

2007-04-04 Thread Damian Wiest
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 06:33:25PM +0200, Eric Dillenseger wrote: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 10:44:46AM -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote: > > On Sunday 01 April 2007 09:22, Srebrenko Sehic wrote: > > > On 3/31/07, Eric Dillenseger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I tried different ModeLine generators fro

Re: A backwards approach to upgrading.

2007-04-04 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 02:22:46PM -0400, Peter Fraser wrote: > I use an approach to upgrading that I have not seen written > anywhere. It does need additional space in the root partition > but with disks these days that is not normally a problem. [...] I really don't see any benefit compared to t

Re: A backwards approach to upgrading.

2007-04-04 Thread Walter Goulet
On 4/4/07, Walter Goulet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 4/4/07, Peter Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quoting from http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade41.html > > Upgrading is a convenient way to bring your OpenBSD system up to > the most recent version. However, the results are not intended to

Re: wireless on OpenBSD : ath(4) or ral(4) ?

2007-04-04 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
I have both ath and ral, ral is almost alway lower strength but better supported. ath is better strength but it is buggy at best in g mode. Sam Fourman Jr. On 4/4/07, Obiozor Okeke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, good choice. I've had great success with ral(4) supported wireless pci and pcm

Re: A backwards approach to upgrading.

2007-04-04 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
Matthias Kilian wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 02:22:46PM -0400, Peter Fraser wrote: I use an approach to upgrading that I have not seen written anywhere. It does need additional space in the root partition but with disks these days that is not normally a problem. [...] I really don't

Re: Cannot upgrade from 3.8

2007-04-04 Thread Antti Harri
On Wed, 4 Apr 2007, Jonas Thambert wrote: I have several servers with the same problem. The solution has always been to disable one or two drivers that conflicts. In my opinion it should just work. It works with 3.8 so why not newer.. Anyway I tried disabling devices to get something useful i

Re: A backwards approach to upgrading.

2007-04-04 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 03:01:11PM -0400, Peter Fraser wrote: > [...] If you REALLY wish to get rid of all these old > files, you are probably better off reinstalling from scratch. Well, that's of course correct, but there are ways to identify (and remove) obsolete files and libraries after an upg

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Re: ral, ibss and packets larger than 200 bytes

2007-04-04 Thread Paul Metselaar
Stefan Sperling wrote: Does anyone know more about this fragmentation thingy? Could it be some broadcom-specific non-standard "feature" that no-one else supports? It doesn't seem to be broadcom-specific. I have a similar problem connecting a prismgt client (Linux) to a ral accesspoint (OpenBSD

Re: Why gtk-gnutella stopped working

2007-04-04 Thread Ted Unangst
On 4/3/07, Karel Kulhavy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello gtk-gnutella shipped with OpenBSD 4.0 is now obsolete and obsolete versions are banned after 1 year from the Gnutella network. If you are wondering, why it's suddenly not working, uninstall gtk-gnutella, download the official one, delete

Re: Widescreen flat panel

2007-04-04 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Monday 02 April 2007 09:33, Eric Dillenseger wrote: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 10:44:46AM -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote: > > On Sunday 01 April 2007 09:22, Srebrenko Sehic wrote: > > > On 3/31/07, Eric Dillenseger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I tried different ModeLine generators from the net,

Re: Widescreen flat panel

2007-04-04 Thread Stuart Henderson
> > Now I have it working with the right resolution, but I can't go over > > 16bit colors. My photos don't look very good but at least it works > > for most common tasks. Or perhaps it isn't even 16, anyway. > > I'm wondering why X doesn't handle 24 bit, even with videoram > > defined. > > Weird..

Re: Booting a Thinkpad T23

2007-04-04 Thread sweetnsourbkr
Thanks to everyone for your help. I was able to boot OpenBSD and am now following the documentation through the rest of the install process. This distro has amazingly detailed documentation! :) -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Booting-a-Thinkpad-T23-tf3525744.html#a9848729

Re: Booting a Thinkpad T23

2007-04-04 Thread jared r r spiegel
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 10:39:30AM -0700, sweetnsourbkr wrote: > > The packages aren't included in cd40.iso, are they? no. you're correct. no install sets (base40.tgz, comp40.tgz, etc) or packages are in the cdXY.iso. > From what I understand, > I must either do what I did, or burn 2 CDs,

Re: A backwards approach to upgrading.

2007-04-04 Thread Henning Brauer
compared to the regular approach, this is certainly backwards. -- Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting - Hamburg & Amsterdam

dmesg for Asus Striker Extreme Motherboard w/ unknown product

2007-04-04 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
Hello misc@ here is a dmesg of my new system, This post is to let the developers know about the unknown product (not sure why it repeats so many times) I asume it is my Video Card There is a single Nvidia 8800 GTS Video Card in this system also on the Logitech G15 Keyboard keyboard the decimal