Re: blobs are bad

2006-10-18 Thread Breen Ouellette
Theo de Raadt wrote: But Craig, it's the same with women. They'll only hang out with you if they feel there is enough positive vibe in you. And since you so clearly show that you are a pessimist at heart, you're out of luck too! If you keep saying something good won't happen -- well then you ca

Re: blobs are bad

2006-10-18 Thread Nico Meijer
Hi Eliah, This discussion is starting to lean not to OpenBSD but life in general. ;-) > "Karma" and "the law of abstraction" are very abstract. In my view, they are most certainly not. It's the law of attraction, btw, not abstraction. For instance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Attraction

Re: Aironet MPI-350 Wireless Support?

2006-10-18 Thread Lars Hansson
On Wednesday 18 October 2006 14:16, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > Does anyone know if Ralink/ral has any mPCI cards with the tx/rx power > compareable to the ath(4) one in this link? man ral gives the following mpci cards: Amigo AWI-922W Billionton MIWLGRL Gigabyte GN-WIKG MSI MP54G2 MSI MS-6833 Tonze P

24kHz plays slower on 3.9

2006-10-18 Thread Karel Kulhavy
48kHz, 44.1kHz and 8kHz sampling rate wavs play the right speed on my system. 24kHz play annoyingly slower. I took a 44.1kHz song, resampled to 24kHz using sox rate -ql and checked with audacity, if the sox resampling is not wrong. It isn't, the resulting files have both exactly the same length (me

Re: Aironet MPI-350 Wireless Support?

2006-10-18 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/10/18 01:16, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > Does anyone know if Ralink/ral has any mPCI cards with the tx/rx power > compareable to the ath(4) one in this link? there aren't, you'll have look fairly hard to find even +20dBm on a ralink minipci. they're usually +17dBm (and a bit less sensitive th

Re: 24kHz plays slower on 3.9

2006-10-18 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 10:29:37AM +0200, Karel Kulhavy wrote: > 48kHz, 44.1kHz and 8kHz sampling rate wavs play the right speed on my system. > 24kHz play annoyingly slower. I took a 44.1kHz song, resampled to 24kHz using > sox rate -ql and checked with audacity, if the sox resampling is not wrong

Re: blobs are bad

2006-10-18 Thread mal content
On 18/10/06, Nico Meijer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, there's a lot of New Age bullshit floating around. It's your choice to look beyond that and see the practical implications of it. They do tend to get everywhere, don't they... MC

Re: blobs are bad

2006-10-18 Thread Theo de Raadt
> Pardon me if my Knowledge is lacking, but is there actually *any* > video card vendor that would support Full 3D acceleration and *most* > of the stuff desktop users want? > Maybe the AMD / ATI merger will yield some results in the future, if i > am not mistaken AMD has been a *decent* company a

VPN interoperability problem with Symantec Enterprise Firewall

2006-10-18 Thread Mitja Muženič
Hi! Just a quick question if anybody has had the same problem, or contrary, if anybody has a success story with SEF. I'm trying to establish an IPsec tunnel between OpenBSD 3.9 and Symantec Enterprise Firewall 7.0.4 (NT/2k) which is not under my control. The negotiation goes through normally, bu

MPlayer 1.0pre7-3.3.5 from 3.9 shitty 8kHz MP3

2006-10-18 Thread Karel Kulhavy
I encoded an mp3 at 8kHz 24kbit/s with LAME on OpenBSD 3.9. mplayer cannot play it correctly - it bubbles and skips. mpg321 plays it correctly. All programs are original from obsd 3.9, I didn't compile anything. mplayer even says "Can't rewind stream by 22 bits!" which is a clear sign of corruptio

Re: VPN interoperability problem with Symantec Enterprise Firewall

2006-10-18 Thread Hans-Joerg Hoexer
Hi, could you please provide a pcap of such an exchange? Thanks, HJ. On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 11:57:53AM +0200, Mitja Mu?eni? wrote: > > Just a quick question if anybody has had the same problem, or contrary, if > anybody has a success story with SEF. I'm trying to establish an IPsec > tunnel bet

Re: hostname.wi0 nwflag hidenwid oddity

2006-10-18 Thread viq
On 18/10/06, William Graeber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm just received my 4.0 cd package today and was going through upgrading my system. I have a senao prism2 pcmcia card which is acting up a bit when I try to set the "nwflag hidenwid" option. The card allows me to set it manually by running

Re: Upgrade to -stable and packages

2006-10-18 Thread viq
On 18/10/06, Shohrukh Shoyokubov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi misc@ I am sorry for my lack of knowledge, but I want to update to -stable and I already have 38 packages installed (some of them from ports). I wonder if I will need to reinstall (recompile) them after update. ${PORTSDIR}/infrastr

Re: blobs are bad

2006-10-18 Thread Martin Schröder
2006/10/18, Sam Fourman Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Pardon me if my Knowledge is lacking, but is there actually *any* video card vendor that would support Full 3D acceleration and *most* of the stuff desktop users want? Not really. Matrox is open, but the cards don't do DVI higher than 1280x1024.

/stand still useful?

2006-10-18 Thread Martin Schröder
hier(7) says: /stand/Programs used in a stand-alone environment. It's empty here (3.9). Has it any use, i.e. when is it non-empty? Best Martin

Re: /stand still useful?

2006-10-18 Thread Rod.. Whitworth
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:50:41 +0200, Martin Schrvder wrote: >hier(7) says: >/stand/Programs used in a stand-alone environment. > >It's empty here (3.9). Has it any use, i.e. when is it non-empty? man 7 hier >From the land "down under": Australia. Do we look from up over? Do NOT CC me - I am

Re: blobs are bad

2006-10-18 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/10/18 13:40, Martin Schrvder wrote: > Not really. Matrox is open, but the cards don't do DVI higher than > 1280x1024. They are not. They used to be, but started closing some parts in the dualhead G550 era (istr some feature upgrade being sold as a software-only update which may be the rea

Happy Birthday OpenBSD!

2006-10-18 Thread Melameth, Daniel D.
Oct 18 OpenBSD born, Wednesday 08:37:01 GMT, 1995 "OpenBSD turns not older with years, but newer every day." -Derived from an Emily Dickenson quote

Re: /stand still useful?

2006-10-18 Thread Philip Guenther
On 10/18/06, Rod.. Whitworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:50:41 +0200, Martin Schrvder wrote: >hier(7) says: man 7 hier I can only assume that you either didn't read his message, or you haven't read the manpage you suggest, as he quoted the entire relevant text from

Re: Fast Xorg Performance

2006-10-18 Thread Jeff Quast
On 10/17/06, Karsten McMinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm trying to figure out what needs to be done in order to get fast 2d xorg (and friends) performance. I term fast as not having to wait for window operations, with most every application and xorg opertation taking no longer than 100ms. if an

Re: Vulnerability and Patch Information

2006-10-18 Thread stuartv
Podo, Around here I have had to write up "exception" documents for our OpenBSD servers when we get stuff like this on security audit/scans. Imagine the pain in the ass it is to have to convince a non-technical supervisor that the "HIGH LEVEL" vulnerability (that in one case only effected Debian L

Re: Happy Birthday OpenBSD!

2006-10-18 Thread Edgars
Yee! -Original message- From: "Melameth, Daniel D." [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:40:01 +0300 To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Happy Birthday OpenBSD! > Oct 18 OpenBSD born, Wednesday 08:37:01 GMT, 1995 > > > "OpenBSD turns not older with years, but newer every day." -Derive

pf / pkg_add broken in latest snapshot?

2006-10-18 Thread Michael
Hi, I just installed the latest snapshot and it seems that there are several things that are broken, most importantly pf. When trying to load the rules I get this error message: # pfctl -of /etc/pf.conf No ALTQ support in kernel ALTQ related functions disabled pfctl: DIOCADDRULE: Operation not s

Re: Happy Birthday OpenBSD!

2006-10-18 Thread Bruno Carnazzi
Theo president ! :) 2006/10/18, Edgars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Yee! -Original message- From: "Melameth, Daniel D." [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:40:01 +0300 To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Happy Birthday OpenBSD! > Oct 18 OpenBSD born, Wednesday 08:37:01 GMT, 1995 > > > "Open

Re: Vulnerability and Patch Information

2006-10-18 Thread ropers
On 18/10/06, stuartv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have one firewall that is on an external audit/scan list that the people who actually do our audits doesn't believe really even exists because they can't even find it. Basically it has EVERYTHING locked down tight as a drum and allows only a few

Re: hostname.wi0 nwflag hidenwid oddity

2006-10-18 Thread William Graeber
On 10/17/06, jared r r spiegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 09:38:48PM -0400, William Graeber wrote: > I have managed to gain a bit more information regarding my problem - I > added an echo statement in /etc/netstart to get a copy of the command > which was being run. net

Re: blobs are bad

2006-10-18 Thread ICMan
I have read this thread, and I don't get it. Doesn't it benefit card companies to have open source communities making their drivers better? They get free labour, a larger source of talent, and more stable drivers. Their driver developers can take ideas from ports of their drivers to put into

Re: blobs are bad

2006-10-18 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/10/18 09:56, ICMan wrote: > > I have read this thread, and I don't get it. Doesn't it benefit card > companies to have open source communities making their drivers better? > They get free labour, a larger source of talent, and more stable > drivers. Why on earth would they want stabl

retrieving bootparams

2006-10-18 Thread Francois Visconte
Hello, is there any way to retrieve boot params, like /proc/cmdline under linux ? Cheers, Francois

Re: Vulnerability and Patch Information

2006-10-18 Thread Joe
Podo Carp wrote: Thanks Steve, The scanner does indeed rely on banners (which can be completely unreliable especially on OpenBSD). However, I would like them to not knock over my servers trying to confirm the problem if I can easily determine that the patches are irrelevant. Of course this is

Re: pf / pkg_add broken in latest snapshot?

2006-10-18 Thread Michael
Forgot some things... Michael schrieb: > Hi, > > I just installed the latest snapshot and it seems that there are several > things that are broken, most importantly pf. > > When trying to load the rules I get this error message: > > # pfctl -of /etc/pf.conf > No ALTQ support in kernel > ALTQ re

Re: Happy Birthday OpenBSD!

2006-10-18 Thread ropers
> Oct 18 OpenBSD born, Wednesday 08:37:01 GMT, 1995 > > > "OpenBSD turns not older with years, but newer every day." -Derived from > an Emily Dickenson quote --- index.html 2006-10-18 17:13:43.0 +0200 +++ index.new.html 2006-10-18 17:15:23.0 +0200 @@ -78,7 +78,7 @@

Re: retrieving bootparams

2006-10-18 Thread Marcus Popp
On 2006-10-18T17:27, Francois Visconte wrote: > Hello, > is there any way to retrieve boot params, like /proc/cmdline under linux ? wrong list. hth, Marcus.

Re: retrieving bootparams

2006-10-18 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 05:27:01PM +0200, Francois Visconte wrote: > Hello, > is there any way to retrieve boot params, like /proc/cmdline under linux ? > mount_procfs(8) documents this. jmc

Re: pf / pkg_add broken in latest snapshot?

2006-10-18 Thread Michael
Stuart Henderson schrieb: > On 2006/10/18 16:53, Michael wrote: >> I just installed the latest snapshot > > that doesn't mean much without saying the date and architecture. > did you use bsd and base40.tgz files with the same date/time? i386, latest snapshot that is available from rsync://rsync.d

Re: pf / pkg_add broken in latest snapshot?

2006-10-18 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/10/18 17:51, Michael wrote: > Stuart Henderson schrieb: > > On 2006/10/18 16:53, Michael wrote: > >> I just installed the latest snapshot > > > > that doesn't mean much without saying the date and architecture. > > did you use bsd and base40.tgz files with the same date/time? > > i386, la

Broken partition table

2006-10-18 Thread Kyrre Nygård
Hello! My partition table is messed up. I have a 150 gigabyte S-ATA hard drive, with a single NTFS partition running Windows XP. I've been running gpart /dev/ad0 from FreeSBIE for the last 14 hours now and it's not saying anything. I just want to get my data back. I don't care if I have to rein

Re: /stand still useful?

2006-10-18 Thread Adam
"Rod.. Whitworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:50:41 +0200, Martin Schrvder wrote: > > >hier(7) says: > >/stand/Programs used in a stand-alone environment. > > > >It's empty here (3.9). Has it any use, i.e. when is it non-empty? > > man 7 hier Its generally a good ide

Re: Happy Birthday OpenBSD!

2006-10-18 Thread stuartv
What an interesting idea. I would vote for him, if only to piss off all my friends who fancy themselves as "political" but who really have no clue. Could you imagine Theo telling some foreign leader to quit being a cry baby? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTE

Re: Fast Xorg Performance

2006-10-18 Thread Karsten McMinn
On 10/18/06, Jeff Quast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Documentation is key! http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/CategoryHardwareChipset http://www.xfree86.org/current/manindex4.html It took me about 30 minutes to find a $30 ati card that is well supported. The 9200 looks promising. I was able to find

Re: hostname.wi0 nwflag hidenwid oddity

2006-10-18 Thread Tobias Ulmer
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 08:53:27PM -0400, William Graeber wrote: > I'm just received my 4.0 cd package today and was going through > upgrading my system. I have a senao prism2 pcmcia card which is acting > up a bit when I try to set the "nwflag hidenwid" option. The card > allows me to set it manua

Re: blobs are bad

2006-10-18 Thread Ted Unangst
On 10/17/06, Sam Fourman Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Pardon me if my Knowledge is lacking, but is there actually *any* video card vendor that would support Full 3D acceleration and *most* of the stuff desktop users want? intel, s3, older radeons, older matrox

Re: Broken partition table

2006-10-18 Thread stuartv
Um... dude... formatting = erasing especially if you are changing what filesystem you are using. you = reloading everything (and wishing you had backups) I would feel sorry for you, but you are seemingly posting a windows XP question to an OpenBSD list so is isn't worth it. stuart -Origin

Re: retrieving bootparams

2006-10-18 Thread Marcus Popp
On 2006-10-18T15:58, Marcus Popp wrote: > On 2006-10-18T17:27, Francois Visconte wrote: > > Hello, > > is there any way to retrieve boot params, like /proc/cmdline under linux ? > wrong list. aehmm, sorry got you wrong. so long, Marcus.

Re: blobs are bad

2006-10-18 Thread Nick Price
On 10/18/06, Nick Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 10/18/06, Ted Unangst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 10/17/06, Sam Fourman Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Pardon me if my Knowledge is lacking, but is there actually *any* > > > video card vendor that would support Full 3D accel

Re: hostname.wi0 nwflag hidenwid oddity

2006-10-18 Thread William Graeber
It gives me the exact same error as well. I'm not sure if it is of much significance, but I have firmware 1.7.4 on the card. The machine is a soekris net4511, and it is somewhat unique because of the read-only requirements of the compact flash card. I really don't see how this could cause a probl

Re: Happy Birthday OpenBSD!

2006-10-18 Thread Bob Beck
> Theo president ! :) > > What an interesting idea. I would vote for him... > I wouldn't, and I count him as a friend. The president is a puppet whore of special interest groups and shitheads, made to manipulate to the lowest common denominator so the USA gets the government it de

Re: Vulnerability and Patch Information

2006-10-18 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 05:09:12PM +0200, ropers wrote: > On 18/10/06, stuartv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I have one firewall that is on an external audit/scan list that the people > >who actually do our audits doesn't believe really even exists because they > >can't even find it. Basically it

Re: retrieving bootparams

2006-10-18 Thread fv
I was searching for an equivalent under openbsd to retrieve this information. Anyway, forget my question as a dmesg give this info. Sorry, Francois

Re: Fast Xorg Performance

2006-10-18 Thread Greg Thomas
On 10/18/06, Karsten McMinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 10/18/06, Jeff Quast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Documentation is key! > > http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/CategoryHardwareChipset > http://www.xfree86.org/current/manindex4.html > > It took me about 30 minutes to find a $30 ati card that

Re: hostname.wi0 nwflag hidenwid oddity

2006-10-18 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 10/18/06, Tobias Ulmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 08:53:27PM -0400, William Graeber wrote: > >> I'm just received my 4.0 cd package today and was going through > >> upgrading my system. I have a senao prism2 pcmcia card which is acting > >> up a bit when I try to set t

Re: pf / pkg_add broken in latest snapshot?

2006-10-18 Thread Michael
Stuart Henderson schrieb: > wait for the next snapshot or rebuild pfctl so it's in-sync with the kernel, then. (you'll need up-to-date includes, 'make build' is the safer way). I am not sure what the cause is of this, but I hope it gets fixed soon. Too bad I can't go back to my old snapshot, o

Re: Happy Birthday OpenBSD!

2006-10-18 Thread ropers
On 18/10/06, Bob Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Theo president ! :) > > What an interesting idea. I would vote for him... > I wouldn't, and I count him as a friend. The president is a puppet whore of special interest groups and shitheads, made to manipulate to the lowest common denom

Re: blobs are bad

2006-10-18 Thread bofh
On 10/18/06, Ted Unangst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 10/17/06, Sam Fourman Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Pardon me if my Knowledge is lacking, but is there actually *any* > > video card vendor that would support Full 3D acceleration and *most* > > of the stuff desktop users want? > > int

Re: blobs are bad

2006-10-18 Thread Matthew Weigel
Ted Unangst wrote: > On 10/17/06, Sam Fourman Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Pardon me if my Knowledge is lacking, but is there actually *any* >> video card vendor that would support Full 3D acceleration and *most* >> of the stuff desktop users want? > > intel, s3, older radeons, older matrox

Re: Fast Xorg Performance

2006-10-18 Thread bofh
On 10/18/06, Karsten McMinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > in the other windows managers. I may be preaching to the > choir, but for some reason after years of using X-apps/windows > I just have to know if there a faster way to do xorg that I > may have missed somewhere, some faq, some manpage, > s

Re: Fast Xorg Performance

2006-10-18 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 09:55:10AM -0700, Karsten McMinn wrote: > On 10/18/06, Jeff Quast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Documentation is key! > > > >http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/CategoryHardwareChipset > >http://www.xfree86.org/current/manindex4.html > > > >It took me about 30 minutes to find a

Re: OpenBSD dedicated hosting

2006-10-18 Thread Bryan Irvine
http://www.simpli.biz/ Is based in San Jose. I've been talking to them about hosting for me $59/mo for a full-root server. On 9/16/06, Gilles Chehade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi misc@, I am looking for companies that provide OpenBSD-powered dedicated hosting. Currently, I am being hosted

Re: hostname.wi0 nwflag hidenwid oddity

2006-10-18 Thread William Graeber
I had thought of doing this earlier - Just added nwflag hidenwid to a line below the initial one and it works as expected. I'll keep an eye out for this on the lists. Thanks for the help William On 10/18/06, Stuart Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 10/18/06, Tobias Ulmer <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: How open is Intel?

2006-10-18 Thread Theo de Raadt
> For example, recently Intel was very boastful about demonstrating > their ``ongoing commitment to providing free software drivers for > Intel hardware''[1]. When I first read the announcement, I was > excited, but after re-reading it, I caught on that nowhere did they > mention providing documen

Re: Happy Birthday OpenBSD!

2006-10-18 Thread Bruno Carnazzi
2006/10/18, ropers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On 18/10/06, Bob Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Theo president ! :) > > > > What an interesting idea. I would vote for him... > > > > I wouldn't, and I count him as a friend. The president is a puppet > whore of special interest groups and shi

Re: blobs are bad

2006-10-18 Thread Ted Unangst
On 10/18/06, bofh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 10/18/06, Ted Unangst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: But intel's bad by definition :) Older radeons - those include the laptops with the mobility chips? (MIne's M300, so, probably not). not sure. ati parts are referenced by a large mix of numbers (

Re: blobs are bad

2006-10-18 Thread Ted Unangst
On 10/18/06, Matthew Weigel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > intel, s3, older radeons, older matrox Do any of them work in OpenBSD? I thought DRI was required, and not supported in OpenBSD. no, but they are all capable of working. the drivers are all open source.

Re: blobs are bad

2006-10-18 Thread Paul Irofti
On Wednesday 18 October 2006 16:56, ICMan wrote: > I have read this thread, and I don't get it. Doesn't it benefit card > companies to have open source communities making their drivers > better? You're looking at it all wrong.. making drivers implies putting out docs. Docs will describe the act

Re: OpenBSD dedicated hosting

2006-10-18 Thread Bill Traynor
On 10/18/06, Bryan Irvine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.simpli.biz/ Is based in San Jose. I've been talking to them about hosting for me $59/mo for a full-root server. Check out Geekisp as well. It's one guy who offers many different OpenBSD options. http://www.geekisp.com On 9

getting the source of a snapshot

2006-10-18 Thread Paul Stoeber
The FAQ says: It is sometimes asked if there is any way to get a copy of exactly the code used to build a snapshot. The answer is no. For this to change, it would be sufficient if the output of find src XF4 -path '*/CVS/Entries' -exec perl -ne \ 'm:^(/[^/]*/[^/]*): && print substr($ARGV

Re: blobs are bad

2006-10-18 Thread Jack J. Woehr
On Oct 18, 2006, at 2:25 PM, Paul Irofti wrote: > I'm guessing the main restrain (as far as docs are implied) are the > design flaws found in their hardware. This can destroy a reputation > faster than a "minor" exploit that people don't really care about > because "It could never affect me, what

Re: getting the source of a snapshot

2006-10-18 Thread Theo de Raadt
The FAQ says: It is sometimes asked if there is any way to get a copy of exactly the code used to build a snapshot. The answer is no. For this to change, it would be sufficient if the output of find src XF4 -path '*/CVS/Entries' -exec perl -ne \

Re: blobs are bad

2006-10-18 Thread Damian Wiest
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 01:40:19PM +0200, Martin Schr?der wrote: > 2006/10/18, Sam Fourman Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >Pardon me if my Knowledge is lacking, but is there actually *any* > >video card vendor that would support Full 3D acceleration and *most* > >of the stuff desktop users want? > > N

Re: getting the source of a snapshot

2006-10-18 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 02:49:10PM -0600, Paul Stoeber wrote: | The FAQ says: | | It is sometimes asked if there is any way to get a copy of exactly | the code used to build a snapshot. The answer is no. | | For this to change, it would be sufficient if the output of | | find src XF4 -path '

Re: getting the source of a snapshot

2006-10-18 Thread Ted Unangst
On 10/18/06, Paul Stoeber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Pretty please adopt this practice, for it is inexpensive, and I would recently have loved to have seen a diff between the snapshot source and the checked-out source. as stated, it's not possible. snapshots are generally for people who just w

nokia IP120 problem

2006-10-18 Thread Denis Doroshenko
hello guys, have seen a few mails recently on the least about these routers. i have got my hands on one (sticker at the bottom says it is "IP110", sticker at the top says it is "IP120"). i saw, the mails recently WRT software reboot, but that's the least problem with mine. the poor beast locks s

Re: OpenBSD dedicated hosting

2006-10-18 Thread Gilles Chehade
Bryan Irvine wrote: http://www.simpli.biz/ Is based in San Jose. I've been talking to them about hosting for me $59/mo for a full-root server. On 9/16/06, Gilles Chehade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi misc@, I am looking for companies that provide OpenBSD-powered dedicated hosting. Current

Re: popa3d: to compile from tree or not from tree?

2006-10-18 Thread Ben Calvert
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:25:01 -0500 (CDT) Jacob Yocom-Piatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > that is the question. a quick answer would be appreciated since i have to stay > up all night and get a POP3 mailserver ready that supports the > virtual-domain-farm-style login without having system accounts.

Re: Happy Birthday OpenBSD!

2006-10-18 Thread Wijnand Wiersma
Congrats OpenBSD. Nice, on Opencon they are still celebrating 10 years of OpenBSD: http://www.opencon.org/program.php Does this mean we get two parties?

df reports negative available space on large filesystem

2006-10-18 Thread Derick Siddoway
This is what I see: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ df > Filesystem512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/wd0a 74826724 27903788 4318160039%/ > se-nas01:/fs04/prodstfs01 4181818080 1654186208 -176733542440%/data > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ d

Re: nokia IP120 problem

2006-10-18 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/10/19 00:57, Denis Doroshenko wrote: > i saw, the mails recently WRT software reboot, but that's the > least problem with mine. the poor beast locks solid after random > period of time (that's why it came to me). have thrown that bloody > early-fbsd-hacked-into-ipso and put the latest snaps

ACPI support, donate via payapl here

2006-10-18 Thread Niall O'Higgins
Hi, marco@ could desperately use an IBM Thinkpad for his ACPI work. This work is very important and many of us really want to get him this hardware. Everyone with a laptop running OpenBSD will likely benefit from marco's work. Unfortunately no individual has yet stepped up and given him one.

Re: blobs are bad

2006-10-18 Thread Bambero
open source community answer: http://www.petitiononline.com/nvfoss/petition.html On 10/18/06, Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://news.com.com/Exploit+code+released+for+Nvidia+flaw/2100-1002_3-6126846.html I just wanted to say... "Told you so". Quite amusing. Of course we know th

Re: Happy Birthday OpenBSD!

2006-10-18 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 18/10/06, ropers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 18/10/06, Bob Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Theo president ! :) > > > > What an interesting idea. I would vote for him... > > > > I wouldn't, and I count him as a friend. The president is a puppet > whore of special interest groups

Re: blobs are bad

2006-10-18 Thread Steve Shockley
Damian Wiest wrote: If you're looking to add dual, or triple-headed support or connect your system to a television or A/V receiver, good luck. I've had nothing but problems trying to find a suitable card with BSD support. I'm currently trying a Radeon 9600XT which some people have claimed wil

Re: /stand still useful?

2006-10-18 Thread Nick Guenther
On 10/18/06, Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Rod.. Whitworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:50:41 +0200, Martin Schrvder wrote: > > >hier(7) says: > >/stand/Programs used in a stand-alone environment. > > > >It's empty here (3.9). Has it any use, i.e. when is it non-em

Re: blobs are bad

2006-10-18 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Bambero wrote on Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 10:36:15PM +0200: > open source community answer: > http://www.petitiononline.com/nvfoss/petition.html Did you take the time to actually read that? It asks for source code (instead of documentation) and calls the current solution implemented by Nvidia "the b

Re: Vulnerability and Patch Information

2006-10-18 Thread Podo Carp
Hi Joe, I see that some errata information has CVE included (probably those disclosed before OpenBSD fixed them). Where this information is absent, I am not confident that the errata details are relevant. In the case of the SSL problem, there was a patch released around the time of the original

Re: hostname.wi0 nwflag hidenwid oddity

2006-10-18 Thread jared r r spiegel
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 11:05:51AM -0400, William Graeber wrote: > The up doesn't make a difference if I add it before the inet line :( > output of sh -v /etc/netstart is pretty lengthy, but I can post it > somewhere if someone would like to take a look. output of that is probably no differ

Re: ACPI support, donate via payapl here

2006-10-18 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 11:40:16PM +0100, Niall O'Higgins wrote: > Hi, > > marco@ could desperately use an IBM Thinkpad for his ACPI work. This > work is very important and many of us really want to get him this > hardware. Everyone with a laptop running OpenBSD will likely benefit > from marco'

Re: pf / pkg_add broken in latest snapshot?

2006-10-18 Thread jared r r spiegel
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 08:45:31PM +0200, Michael wrote: > > Too bad I can't go back to my old snapshot, or is there any chance to > get the 4.0 packages before official release so I can downgrade to a > working state? ja; cvs -qd${your_favourite_cvs_mirror}:/cvs co -r OPENBSD_4_0_BASE

bsdstats.org WOW

2006-10-18 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
Check out OpenBSD :) http://www.bsdstats.org/

Re: bsdstats.org WOW

2006-10-18 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 07:37:28PM -0500, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > Check out OpenBSD :) > > http://www.bsdstats.org/ Why? -- Darrin Chandler| Phoenix BSD Users Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ |

Re: bsdstats.org WOW

2006-10-18 Thread Ted Unangst
On 10/18/06, Sam Fourman Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Check out OpenBSD :) http://www.bsdstats.org/ based on the country distributions, i'm gonna guess this isn't quite a representative sample. just a hunch though.

Re: /stand still useful?

2006-10-18 Thread jared r r spiegel
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 10:15:21PM +1000, Rod.. Whitworth wrote: > On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:50:41 +0200, Martin Schrvder wrote: > >hier(7) says: > man 7 hier oops. > Do we look from up over? i don't know if you look like a mop that had been pissed in. > Do NOT CC me - I am subscribed to the

Re: bsdstats.org WOW

2006-10-18 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 18/10/06, Sam Fourman Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Check out OpenBSD :) http://www.bsdstats.org/ For historical reference, info taken from bsdstats.org: If you have any questions, comments, or suggestions, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Operating System Systems This

Re: How open is Intel?

2006-10-18 Thread Jonathan Gray
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 01:31:58PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > Another example appears to be the Intel PRO/1000 MT card. Intel has > > an open source driver for it, but when I search their web site the > > most I find are product briefs and white papers[3]. (I know the link > > is for their P

Re: bsdstats.org WOW

2006-10-18 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 18/10/06, Ted Unangst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 10/18/06, Sam Fourman Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Check out OpenBSD :) > > http://www.bsdstats.org/ based on the country distributions, i'm gonna guess this isn't quite a representative sample. just a hunch though. OpenBSD seems to l

Re: bsdstats.org WOW

2006-10-18 Thread Shane J Pearson
On 19/10/2006, at 11:28 AM, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: OpenBSD seems to lead in most sampled countries, though... Although it is a bit strange that the UK, Russia and Japan are missing from Top 10... Yes, I thought Russia would be up there. http://www.google.com/trends?q=OpenBSD Shane J

Re: ACPI support, donate via payapl here

2006-10-18 Thread Nick Guenther
On 10/18/06, Darrin Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote I'm working on selling my current laptop so I could buy a ThinkPad, which I was thinking of loaning for a time. But that's still in the future, so it doesn't count for anything. Instead, I went ahead and chipped in through paypal. If even a

Re: Vulnerability and Patch Information

2006-10-18 Thread Lars Hansson
Podo Carp wrote: I love the fact that OpenBSD does not compromise the fundamental security and design principles upon which it was founded. Adding clearer documentation of OpenBSD's superior security can only enhance its reputation Are you volunteering to do the work? --- Lars Hansson

setting up NIS

2006-10-18 Thread Gustavo Rios
Dear list members, i am setting a personal NIS server. At the momment; the output for the command line is the following: # ypinit -m mojave Server Type: MASTER Domain: mojave Creating an YP server will require that you answer a few questions. Questions will all be asked at the beginning of the

Re: Vulnerability and Patch Information

2006-10-18 Thread Podo Carp
Touche! I can contribute several hours a week to this effort with the caveat that I wasn't too successful in finding the original fix which spawned this thread. Cheers, Dan On 10/19/06, Lars Hansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Podo Carp wrote: > > I love the fact that OpenBSD does not compro

Re: Aironet MPI-350 Wireless Support?

2006-10-18 Thread Donald Bruce Stewart
james: > I've looked through the mailing list archives and haven't found any recent > information about Aironet MPI-350 Wireless support. I just did a fresh > install of OpenBSD 3.9 on a ThinkPad T40 with this wireless card. Dmesg > outputs this information ""Aironet MPI-350 Wireless" rev 0x00 at

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