a) you're wrong
b) you don't know what problem he is trying to solve.
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 5:28 AM, Salim Shaw wrote:
> OpenBSD is a server/router/network service OS, it's not designed for
> desktops. OpenBSD is the pre-eminent platform for Firewalling, IPsec, IPv6.
> Trying to shove OpenBSD
Hi
I'm having problem only one condition/case on which notebooks have dual
video card.
2013/6/12 Ville Valkonen
> ..and it's even more usable with current.
> On Jun 12, 2013 5:41 PM, "Mark Duller" wrote:
>
> > On 14/05/2013 16:18, David Coppa wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Mark
..and it's even more usable with current.
On Jun 12, 2013 5:41 PM, "Mark Duller" wrote:
> On 14/05/2013 16:18, David Coppa wrote:
> > On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Mark Duller
> wrote:
> >
> >> The OP was talking about laptops... Ideally one would buy a laptop that
> >> works well with OpenBS
Mark Duller wrote:
> I wasn't able to get the webcam working this time (in previous versions
> I got it working, though not reliably). I used the 'video' command but
> it just gives 'video: could not find a usable encoding' even trying
> various options. dmesg shows the following but uvideo0 doesn
On 14/05/2013 16:18, David Coppa wrote:
> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Mark Duller wrote:
>
>> The OP was talking about laptops... Ideally one would buy a laptop that
>> works well with OpenBSD, but sometimes choice is limited due to
>> workplace requirements etc.
>>
>> For a "desktop" comput
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 08:34:27AM -0400, Salim Shaw wrote:
> Scott,
>
> I'll be sure not to give up my day job at DUKE Medical Center. We
> have over 20,000 employees in this medical institution and we know
> what works for desktops and we know what works for enterprise server
> environments.
A
The OP stated he was asking about laptops, and went to the trouble of
sending a second email specifying he was talking about scientific
research. I know this is misc@, but can we try and stay on-topic? And
even if sometimes we learn something from 'what-do-you-use-it-for'
discussions, I believe we
2013/5/14 Tomas Bodzar
> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Pau wrote:
>
> > on his/her laptop as *only* OS and uses it daily for scientific work?
> > please contact me off list. Thanks
> >
> >
> I'm not sure if there will be some official readings available (you can try
> BSDmag and similar reso
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez <
alv...@alvaromantilla.com> wrote:
> 2013/5/13 Chris Cappuccio
>
> > Salim Shaw [salims...@vfemail.net] wrote:
> > > OpenBSD is a server/router/network service OS, it's not designed for
> > > desktops. OpenBSD is the pre-eminent platform f
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Mark Duller wrote:
> The OP was talking about laptops... Ideally one would buy a laptop that
> works well with OpenBSD, but sometimes choice is limited due to
> workplace requirements etc.
>
> For a "desktop" computer I totally agree. I wouldn't even want to
> sus
On 14/05/2013 12:09, Stefan Wollny wrote:
>>> My impression is that most people who pretend that OpenBSD is
>>> not suited as a desktop system are either ingnorant or just
>>> outright lazy: - Ignorant on the fine work the developers and
>>> countless porters did and/or - lazy to read the documenta
I agree with your practicalities. We as IT professionals have to be
careful when thrashing people. You never know who you're impacting and I
personally would love to see OpenBSD take over the dominance of Cisco. I
hate closed source with a vengeance, unfortunately we have to support it
due to t
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 08:34:27AM -0400, Salim Shaw wrote:
> Scott,
>
> I'll be sure not to give up my day job at DUKE Medical Center. We
> have over 20,000 employees in this medical institution and we know
> what works for desktops and we know what works for enterprise server
> environments.
D
>Skype: Valid argument - I have to agree that nowadays this is a requirement
>for a "general-purpose desktop system" (let's not discuss 'confidentiality'
>for now...)
Sorry - I couldn't resist:
The German IT-news site http://www.heise.de reported a few minutes ago that
Microsoft reads along mes
Scott,
I'll be sure not to give up my day job at DUKE Medical Center. We have
over 20,000 employees in this medical institution and we know what works
for desktops and we know what works for enterprise server environments.
Be sure to keep your job.
On 05/13/2013 06:59 PM, Scott McEachern wr
>Few cases for obsd not suitable as desktop:
>
>- At home, the WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) for obsd on desktop is negative
>due lack of skype, and flash player.
WAF: Good point! Hard to tackle ... :-)
Skype: Valid argument - I have to agree that nowadays this is a requirement for
a "general-purp
>> My impression is that most people who pretend that OpenBSD is not
>> suited as a desktop system are either ingnorant or just outright
>> lazy: - Ignorant on the fine work the developers and countless
>> porters did and/or - lazy to read the documentation (or if of
>> non-english mothertongue: to
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:18:07AM +0100, Mark Duller wrote:
> > Unless s.o. has to use some proprietary software that is tighly
> > linked to internals of an other OS there is no technical reason to
> > use any other OS as a basis for a desktop system
>
> except for resume from suspend not worki
Hi All,
usage of an OS for "desktop purposes" is quite a broad term.
Few cases for obsd not suitable as desktop:
- At home, the WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) for obsd on desktop is negative
due lack of skype, and flash player.
- At work, need for virtual machines on laptop is a must, not very well
On 14/05/2013 10:15, Stefan Wollny wrote:
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Mai 2013 um 08:31 Uhr Von: "Tomas Bodzar"
>
>
>>> on his/her laptop as *only* OS and uses it daily for scientific
>>> work? please contact me off list. Thanks
>>>
>>>
>> I'm not sure if there will be some official readings avai
Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Mai 2013 um 08:31 Uhr
Von: "Tomas Bodzar"
>> on his/her laptop as *only* OS and uses it daily for scientific work?
>> please contact me off list. Thanks
>>
>>
>I'm not sure if there will be some official readings available (you can try
>BSDmag and similar resources), but i
nt: Tue May 14 08:38:43 CEST 2013
> To: vim.u...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: who is using obsd
>
>
> On 13/05/2013, at 22:12, Pau wrote:
>
> > on his/her laptop as *only* OS and uses it daily for scientific work?
> > please contact me off list. Thanks
>
> Do
On 13/05/2013, at 22:12, Pau wrote:
> on his/her laptop as *only* OS and uses it daily for scientific work?
> please contact me off list. Thanks
Doing statistical consulting for the pharma industry using 99% OpenBSD. Basic
toolkit is LaTeX+R, both edited with vim, and LibreOffice. Plus a lot of
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Pau wrote:
> on his/her laptop as *only* OS and uses it daily for scientific work?
> please contact me off list. Thanks
>
>
I'm not sure if there will be some official readings available (you can try
BSDmag and similar resources), but it's completely possible and
Flame bait. Not even funny.
Salim Shaw wrote:
>OpenBSD is a server/router/network service OS, it's not designed for
>desktops. OpenBSD is the pre-eminent platform for Firewalling, IPsec,
>IPv6.
>Trying to shove OpenBSD onto the desktop is the ultimate case of square
>
>peg/round hole.
>
>
>
>On
You are wrong with your statement that OpenBSD is not designed for the
desktop. We are running several hundred desktop on the enterprise, thin
clients and so on ...
On Mon, 2013-05-13 at 17:28 -0400, Salim Shaw wrote:
> OpenBSD is a server/router/network service OS, it's not designed for
> deskto
On 05/13/13 17:28, Salim Shaw wrote:
OpenBSD is a server/router/network service OS, it's not designed for
desktops. OpenBSD is the pre-eminent platform for Firewalling, IPsec,
IPv6.
Trying to shove OpenBSD onto the desktop is the ultimate case of
square peg/round hole.
You're quite a comedi
On May 13, 2013 4:33 PM, "Chris Cappuccio" wrote:
>
> Salim Shaw [salims...@vfemail.net] wrote:
> > OpenBSD is a server/router/network service OS, it's not designed for
> > desktops. OpenBSD is the pre-eminent platform for Firewalling,
> > IPsec, IPv6.
> > Trying to shove OpenBSD onto the desktop
2013/5/13 Chris Cappuccio
> Salim Shaw [salims...@vfemail.net] wrote:
> > OpenBSD is a server/router/network service OS, it's not designed for
> > desktops. OpenBSD is the pre-eminent platform for Firewalling,
> > IPsec, IPv6.
> > Trying to shove OpenBSD onto the desktop is the ultimate case of
>
Salim Shaw [salims...@vfemail.net] wrote:
> OpenBSD is a server/router/network service OS, it's not designed for
> desktops. OpenBSD is the pre-eminent platform for Firewalling,
> IPsec, IPv6.
> Trying to shove OpenBSD onto the desktop is the ultimate case of
> square peg/round hole.
>
Salim, tha
OpenBSD is a server/router/network service OS, it's not designed for
desktops. OpenBSD is the pre-eminent platform for Firewalling, IPsec, IPv6.
Trying to shove OpenBSD onto the desktop is the ultimate case of square
peg/round hole.
On 05/13/2013 05:12 PM, Pau wrote:
on his/her laptop as *on
PS: scientific: physics, math, bio, etc...
on his/her laptop as *only* OS and uses it daily for scientific work?
please contact me off list. Thanks
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