Re: Honesty needed...

2005-07-02 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hello! On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 11:04:34AM +0800, Jeffrey Lim wrote: >how about the mail store then? I suppose there'll have to be some >coordinated (and "thread-friendly") back-end mail store in place for >these front-end mail servers (*i'm assuming simplistic load-balancing >here - at the tcp lev

Re: Honesty needed...

2005-07-01 Thread Jeffrey Lim
how about the mail store then? I suppose there'll have to be some coordinated (and "thread-friendly") back-end mail store in place for these front-end mail servers (*i'm assuming simplistic load-balancing here - at the tcp level, rather than at the application level, or splitting via userid, so tha

Re: Honesty needed...

2005-07-01 Thread Bob Beck
I concur. mail load is ideally suited for dividing up amongst multiple machines (with then multiple i/o busses, etc. etc.). I far prefer this method to the one big machine method. -Bob * Tobias Weingartner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-01 10:11]: > I'm late to the game...

Re: Honesty needed...

2005-07-01 Thread Tobias Weingartner
I'm late to the game... but why not split the load over a number of servers? Using carp for reduncancy, rdr/round-robin and/or hash, you should be able to spread the load some. --Toby. On Wednesday, June 29, Jeffrey Lim wrote: > On 6/29/05, Matt Juszczak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just spoke

Re: Honesty needed...

2005-06-28 Thread Vjacheslav Borisov
We're running FreeBSD at work on our main mail server, which is now crashing 2 times per day. I need to find a new solution soon, or I could risk losing my job which would really stink. http://www.dragonflybsd.org/ From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. In computing, the DragonFly BSD operat

Re: Honesty needed...

2005-06-28 Thread Matt Juszczak
I've replied to Phillip's reply off list. Theo asked a while ago to please take this off list, so I'd appreciate if anyone who has remarks because of my recent thread to address me off list. I'd like to respect his request. Thank you to those who helped me today. Regards, Matt

Re: Honesty needed...

2005-06-28 Thread Phillip Eviston
ECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Juszczak Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2005 5:28 AM To: Matt Rowley Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Honesty needed... > According to > http://www.freebsd.org/security/ > the current estimated EOL for 4.11 is January 31, 2007 > > That said, since you think IPF i

Re: Honesty needed...

2005-06-28 Thread JR Dalrymple
Matt Juszczak wrote: OpenBSD is known for its stability, and I'm wondering what everyone's opinion on stability would be with a SuperMicro Dual Xeon 3.06 ghz (SMP) and 4 GM RAM, running postfix with LDAP and 10,000 users. If I can get a stable system up and running I'll be really happy.

Re: Honesty needed...

2005-06-28 Thread Matt Rowley
According to http://www.freebsd.org/security/ the current estimated EOL for 4.11 is January 31, 2007 That said, since you think IPF is causing problems, have your tried disabling IPF and running either ipfilter or PF (or doing the filtering on a dedicated firewall box)? --Matt --On Tuesday

Re: Honesty needed...

2005-06-28 Thread Matt Juszczak
According to http://www.freebsd.org/security/ the current estimated EOL for 4.11 is January 31, 2007 That said, since you think IPF is causing problems, have your tried disabling IPF and running either ipfilter or PF (or doing the filtering on a dedicated firewall box)? --Matt Yep, I will

Re: Honesty needed...

2005-06-28 Thread Matt Juszczak
I was honoring that very much :) My main discussion was whether or not I should switch to OpenBSD or not, which is why it started on this list. Sorry for any inconvenence. On Tue, 28 Jun 2005, Theo de Raadt wrote: this is an openbsd list. please honour that. What's wrong with FreeBSD 4.1

Re: Honesty needed...

2005-06-28 Thread Theo de Raadt
this is an openbsd list. please honour that. > > What's wrong with FreeBSD 4.11? You said it's stable for you. OpenBSD is > > going to be a big change for you on short notice with little testing. > > Everyone says the 4.x branch is much more stable than the 5.x branch > > anyway. > > > It is,

Re: Honesty needed...

2005-06-28 Thread Matt Juszczak
What's wrong with FreeBSD 4.11? You said it's stable for you. OpenBSD is going to be a big change for you on short notice with little testing. Everyone says the 4.x branch is much more stable than the 5.x branch anyway. It is, but its unsupported. If I go back to 4.11, within 6 months I would

Re: Honesty needed...

2005-06-28 Thread Matt Juszczak
To avoid making CLM's, you should realise these lists are archived indefinitely. You're right :) He'll know I was being very sarcastic with that respect. I hope. I'll be careful. If things are crashing twice a day and you believe SMP is the culprit, disable it to get your immediate problem

Re: Honesty needed...

2005-06-28 Thread Matt Provost
On Jun 28 02:45 PM, Matt Juszczak wrote: > >Either, I think in general SMP is tough to get stable. People with > >more experience will hopefully reply and explain in more detail. For > >now I, personally, would disable smp on freebsd just to keep it > >stable. > > > I just dont know if this will

Re: Honesty needed...

2005-06-28 Thread Jeffrey Lim
On 6/29/05, Matt Juszczak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just spoke with the boss. My boss really "wants to run SMP". He's an > ill-informed business man and thinks that a single 3 ghz with 4 gb RAM > couldn't handle our mail server, which I believe it would have no problems > at all doing. > sou

Re: Honesty needed...

2005-06-28 Thread Rogier Krieger
On 6/28/05, Matt Juszczak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My boss really "wants to run SMP". He [...] thinks that a single 3 ghz > with 4 gb RAM couldn't handle our mail server [...] To avoid making CLM's, you should realise these lists are archived indefinitely. If things are crashing twice a day

Re: Honesty needed...

2005-06-28 Thread Matt Juszczak
Either, I think in general SMP is tough to get stable. People with more experience will hopefully reply and explain in more detail. For now I, personally, would disable smp on freebsd just to keep it stable. I just dont know if this will keep it stable or not. Others are reporting that the bu

Re: Honesty needed...

2005-06-28 Thread Joe .
Either, I think in general SMP is tough to get stable. People with more experience will hopefully reply and explain in more detail. For now I, personally, would disable smp on freebsd just to keep it stable. Joe On 6/28/05, Matt Juszczak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On OpenBSD or FreeBSD? > > O

Re: Honesty needed...

2005-06-28 Thread Matt Juszczak
Just spoke with the boss. My boss really "wants to run SMP". He's an ill-informed business man and thinks that a single 3 ghz with 4 gb RAM couldn't handle our mail server, which I believe it would have no problems at all doing. 10,000 users isn't that many. Either way, if hes set on SMP, t

Re: Honesty needed...

2005-06-28 Thread Brian
Matt Juszczak wrote: Hi all, Some of you have read my posts from the previous few days but I am really stuck right now. Sorry if this is repeated information for anyone. We're running FreeBSD at work on our main mail server, which is now crashing 2 times per day. I need to find a new sol

Re: Honesty needed...

2005-06-28 Thread Matt Juszczak
On OpenBSD or FreeBSD? On Tue, 28 Jun 2005, Joe . wrote: Can you live with just one processor? You would probably have much better luck with SMP disabled. Joe On 6/28/05, Matt Juszczak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, Some of you have read my posts from the previous few days but I am real

Re: Honesty needed...

2005-06-28 Thread Joe .
Can you live with just one processor? You would probably have much better luck with SMP disabled. Joe On 6/28/05, Matt Juszczak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > Some of you have read my posts from the previous few days but I am really > stuck right now. Sorry if this is repeated informa