Re: /usr/bin/mail under kitty not echoing terminal input

2025-05-04 Thread Jon Fineman
Jon Fineman writes: > I am on OpenBSD 7.7. I just started using kitty a few months ago, so I > am not sure when this started to happen (i.e. 7.6-current or > 7.7-release). > > In a kitty terminal when trying to run /usr/bin/mail after pressing > enter with the subject the

/usr/bin/mail under kitty not echoing terminal input

2025-05-04 Thread Jon Fineman
I am on OpenBSD 7.7. I just started using kitty a few months ago, so I am not sure when this started to happen (i.e. 7.6-current or 7.7-release). In a kitty terminal when trying to run /usr/bin/mail after pressing enter with the subject there is no echo back from the terminal when typing the

Re: Sizing a server for modest web/mail ?

2024-12-11 Thread Implausibility
A quick thank-you to everyone who replied! Given the number of variables, I think my strategy will be to make it easier to rebuild the entire system from backups. This way, I can build a new machine with filesystems that better represent my actual usage, then just dump an image of the filesyst

Re: Sizing a server for modest web/mail ?

2024-12-11 Thread Zé Loff
MySQL > > (MariaDB?) and the webserver have enough space in /var and OpenSMTPd > > has enough space in /var/mail and /home. Just make sure /usr/local > > is big enough for all your installed ports with some space to spare > > and I have done well with a swap partition equal to

Re: Sizing a server for modest web/mail ?

2024-12-10 Thread Janne Johansson
> It will serve myself and a few friends, mostly some very small, relatively > low-traffic WordPress sites, a Wiki, YourLS, a few static sites, and a mail > server. > I'm wonder if there's a way to estimate if the server I have will meet the > needs of these sites

Re: Sizing a server for modest web/mail ?

2024-12-10 Thread Michael
27;ve built a VM in a major cloud provider's datacentre, and > managed to install OpenBSD 7.6. > > It will serve myself and a few friends, mostly some very small, relatively > low-traffic WordPress sites, a Wiki, YourLS, a few static sites, and a mail > server. > > I&

Re: Sizing a server for modest web/mail ?

2024-12-10 Thread Mike Fischer
er chroot(2) can span multiple filesystems …) > Everything else is under 1GB. > >> It may make sense to partition the disk manually so that e.g. MySQL >> (MariaDB?) and the webserver have enough space in /var and OpenSMTPd has >> enough space in /var/mail and /home. Ju

Re: Sizing a server for modest web/mail ?

2024-12-10 Thread Implausibility
rge-ish site (30GB) will live on it's own block storage device. Everything else is under 1GB. > It may make sense to partition the disk manually so that e.g. MySQL > (MariaDB?) and the webserver have enough space in /var and OpenSMTPd has > enough space in /var/mail and /home.

Re: Sizing a server for modest web/mail ?

2024-12-10 Thread Mike Fischer
otprint depends on your needs of course. Only you know what those are. How big are your DocumenRoot directories, databases and mailboxes? It may make sense to partition the disk manually so that e.g. MySQL (MariaDB?) and the webserver have enough space in /var and OpenSMTPd has enough space in

Sizing a server for modest web/mail ?

2024-12-10 Thread Implausibility
c WordPress sites, a Wiki, YourLS, a few static sites, and a mail server. I'm wonder if there's a way to estimate if the server I have will meet the needs of these sites -- the stack I'm using is vanilla 7.6 plus MySQL, Nginx, PHP8.3+FPM, and OpenSMTPd. The hardware is two-cores

Re: E-mail address openly visible in the WWW

2024-08-30 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2024-08-30, Florian Obser wrote: >> Do you recommend using a separate, dedicated e-mail address for >> posting in the misc@ list? > > I would recommend not reading misc. But that might just be me. I fear you may be right. If people would stop replying to stupid messages on-

Re: E-mail address openly visible in the WWW

2024-08-30 Thread Florian Obser
> Do you recommend using a separate, dedicated e-mail address for > posting in the misc@ list? I would recommend not reading misc. But that might just be me. -- In my defence, I have been left unsupervised.

Re: E-mail address openly visible in the WWW

2024-08-30 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 05:06:32PM +0200, rfab...@mhsmail.ch wrote: > I have observed the e-mail addresses of the misc@ contributors are > openly visible in the World Wide Web. I'm not sure whether this might > be a privacy hasard. > > Do you recommend using a separate, dedi

E-mail address openly visible in the WWW

2024-08-30 Thread rfabris
Dear friends I have observed the e-mail addresses of the misc@ contributors are openly visible in the World Wide Web. I'm not sure whether this might be a privacy hasard. Do you recommend using a separate, dedicated e-mail address for posting in the misc@ list? Best regards

Re: Frustrating feature in Evolution mail

2024-07-18 Thread Mark Gary
On Thu, 2024-07-18 at 12:10 +0200, Jan Stary wrote: > > On Jul 18 10:42:23, mwg...@btinternet.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > > https://gnome.pages.gitlab.gnome.org/evolution/help/mail-change-time-format.html > > > > > > > > > > >

Re: Frustrating feature in Evolution mail

2024-07-18 Thread Jan Stary
> > > > > > > I know how to fix this in > > > > > > > FreeBSD by  including LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 etc in a number of > > > > > > > text > > > > > > > files. > > > > > > > However on OpenBSD, this hasn't worked in exactly the same > > > > > > > way. > > > > > > To be clear: "hasn't worked in exactly sam

Re: Frustrating feature in Evolution mail

2024-07-18 Thread Mark Gary
gt; > I'm trying to resolve a trivial, but annoying problem with > > > > using > > > > Evolution mail on my OpenBSD setup. The style of date used in > > > > the > > > > list > > > > of mail in my inbox is in US format, i.e month first, da

Re: Frustrating feature in Evolution mail

2024-07-18 Thread Jan Stary
On Jul 18 10:42:23, mwg...@btinternet.com wrote: > > > > https://gnome.pages.gitlab.gnome.org/evolution/help/mail-change-time-format.html > > > > > > > > > > I did already change that.  However it only changes the header > > > view, on >

Re: Frustrating feature in Evolution mail

2024-07-18 Thread Mark Gary
On Wed, 2024-07-17 at 13:22 +0200, Jan Stary wrote: > On Jul 17 09:59:01, mwg...@btinternet.com wrote: > > HI All, > > > > I'm trying to resolve a trivial, but annoying problem with using > > Evolution mail on my OpenBSD setup. The style of date used in the > &

Re: Frustrating feature in Evolution mail

2024-07-18 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2024-07-17, Crystal Kolipe wrote: > On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 09:59:01AM +0100, Mark Gary wrote: >> /etc/login.conf - yes I did run cap_mkdb. > > Don't. > > On a small personal system there is no point in using the db format for > login.conf. Nor on a big server either, really. Pretty much any t

Re: Frustrating feature in Evolution mail

2024-07-18 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2024-07-18, Mark Gary wrote: > On Wed, 2024-07-17 at 13:13 +0200, Rob Schmersel wrote: >> On Wed, 17 Jul 2024 09:59:01 +0100 >> Mark Gary wrote: >> >> > HI All, >> > >> > I'm trying to resolve a trivial, but annoying problem with using

Re: Frustrating feature in Evolution mail

2024-07-18 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Thu, 2024-07-18 at 09:28 +0100, Mark Gary wrote: > On Wed, 2024-07-17 at 13:13 +0200, Rob Schmersel wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Jul 2024 09:59:01 +0100 > > Mark Gary wrote: > > > > > HI All, > > > > > > I'm trying to resolve a trivial, but a

Re: Frustrating feature in Evolution mail

2024-07-18 Thread Mark Gary
On Wed, 2024-07-17 at 13:13 +0200, Rob Schmersel wrote: > On Wed, 17 Jul 2024 09:59:01 +0100 > Mark Gary wrote: > > > HI All, > > > > I'm trying to resolve a trivial, but annoying problem with using > > Evolution mail on my OpenBSD setup. The style of date

Re: Frustrating feature in Evolution mail

2024-07-18 Thread Jan Stary
On Jul 18 09:21:14, mwg...@btinternet.com wrote: > On Wed, 2024-07-17 at 13:22 +0200, Jan Stary wrote: > > On Jul 17 09:59:01, mwg...@btinternet.com wrote: > > > HI All, > > > > > > I'm trying to resolve a trivial, but annoying problem with using >

Re: Frustrating feature in Evolution mail

2024-07-17 Thread Jan Stary
On Jul 17 09:59:01, mwg...@btinternet.com wrote: > HI All, > > I'm trying to resolve a trivial, but annoying problem with using > Evolution mail on my OpenBSD setup. The style of date used in the list > of mail in my inbox is in US format, i.e month first, day second, and I &g

Re: Frustrating feature in Evolution mail

2024-07-17 Thread Rob Schmersel
On Wed, 17 Jul 2024 09:59:01 +0100 Mark Gary wrote: > HI All, > > I'm trying to resolve a trivial, but annoying problem with using > Evolution mail on my OpenBSD setup. The style of date used in the list > of mail in my inbox is in US format, i.e month first, day second, a

Re: Frustrating feature in Evolution mail

2024-07-17 Thread Crystal Kolipe
On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 09:59:01AM +0100, Mark Gary wrote: > /etc/login.conf - yes I did run cap_mkdb. Don't. On a small personal system there is no point in using the db format for login.conf. Remove the db version and stick to the plain text file.

Frustrating feature in Evolution mail

2024-07-17 Thread Mark Gary
HI All, I'm trying to resolve a trivial, but annoying problem with using Evolution mail on my OpenBSD setup. The style of date used in the list of mail in my inbox is in US format, i.e month first, day second, and I want it is UK format, day first, then month. I know how to fix this in Fr

Re: smtpd outgoing mail configuration

2024-05-18 Thread Ampie Niemand
On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 08:12:27AM +0200, fr...@lilo.org wrote: How to forward outgoing mail to a remote SMTP server with smtpd? I found this page, but it's out of date I think. https://romanzolotarev.com/openbsd/smtpd-forward.html Tks Pascal I have mine setup like this and its working

Re: smtpd outgoing mail configuration

2024-05-17 Thread Janne Johansson
Den fre 17 maj 2024 kl 08:56 skrev Pascal Deveaux : > > The command > # chown root:_smtpd /etc/mail/secrets > Return : group smtpd doesn't exist The error message doesn't match the command at all, and the _smtpd group has been in the group file for some 15 years. Look for

Re: smtpd outgoing mail configuration

2024-05-16 Thread Pascal Deveaux
The command # chown root:_smtpd /etc/mail/secrets Return : group smtpd doesn't exist 17 mai 2024 10:32:19 Otto Moerbeek : > On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 08:12:27AM +0200, fr...@lilo.org wrote: > >> How to forward outgoing mail to a remote SMTP server with smtpd? >> >>

Re: smtpd outgoing mail configuration

2024-05-16 Thread James Watt
On 17/05/24 11:42, fr...@lilo.org wrote: How to forward outgoing mail to a remote SMTP server with smtpd? I found this page, but it's out of date I think. https://romanzolotarev.com/openbsd/smtpd-forward.html Tks Pascal The config looks fine, use:  man smtpd.conf -James

Re: smtpd outgoing mail configuration

2024-05-16 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 08:12:27AM +0200, fr...@lilo.org wrote: > How to forward outgoing mail to a remote SMTP server with smtpd? > > I found this page, but it's out of date I think. > https://romanzolotarev.com/openbsd/smtpd-forward.html > > Tks > Pascal man

smtpd outgoing mail configuration

2024-05-16 Thread fr5dh
How to forward outgoing mail to a remote SMTP server with smtpd? I found this page, but it's out of date I think. https://romanzolotarev.com/openbsd/smtpd-forward.html Tks Pascal

Re: Why the mail filter?

2023-12-25 Thread Mike
Yawn On Mon, Dec 25, 2023, 11:05 a.m. wrote: > > On 2023-12-25 06:32, Jan Stary wrote: > > There's nothing to "confront". Go away. > The classic white belief: > "You're not a real man if you're not an obedient worker drone for muh > society (aka women)" > > Fuck you cunt. > I'm glad the taliban

Re: Why the mail filter?

2023-12-25 Thread mikeeusa
On 2023-12-25 06:32, Jan Stary wrote: There's nothing to "confront". Go away. The classic white belief: "You're not a real man if you're not an obedient worker drone for muh society (aka women)" Fuck you cunt. I'm glad the taliban and Iran have been slaughtering your kind. Guess they're "nothi

Re: Why the mail filter?

2023-12-25 Thread Jan Stary
There's nothing to "confront". Go away. On Dec 25 05:31:13, mikee...@firemail.cc wrote: > Got a problem with my emails? Can't confront me man to man? Like fucking > faggot scum? > >

Why the mail filter?

2023-12-25 Thread mikeeusa
Got a problem with my emails? Can't confront me man to man? Like fucking faggot scum?

Re: Claws Mail and new call for eu locale

2023-11-15 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Daniele B. wrote on Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 06:17:21PM +0100: > I just came accross the last little problem regarding the locale of my > system: in Claws Mail the date in message pane is displayed in %x > format (result=mm/dd/year) to adapt to the current locale. > > I st

Proton Mail Bridge

2023-10-29 Thread Lucretia
Someone reached out to me this morning asking if I use Proton Mail from within my OpenBSD system, but I told them I'm just using it on my iPhone. but I took a look, and their bridge application is open source. https://github.com/ProtonMail/proton-bridge I downloaded and added the nece

Re: mail command - change "from address" for Charlie Root

2023-05-06 Thread Nino Sidoti
ored when the daily output reports are generated. > > That is probably because the root crontab sets HOME to /var/log. > You might try creating a /var/log/.mailrc file (owned by root) and > see if that works for you. If not, you might just edit /etc/daily > and pass the -r option to mail to set the from address. > > - todd

Re: mail command - change "from address" for Charlie Root

2023-05-06 Thread Todd C . Miller
ou might just edit /etc/daily and pass the -r option to mail to set the from address. - todd

Re: mail command - change "from address" for Charlie Root

2023-05-06 Thread Philipp Buehler
Am 06.05.2023 02:03 schrieb Nino Sidoti: Hello, I am trying to work out how to change the “From address” for when the daily output reports are run. I want to use a real email address rather than the default of Charlie Root “root@hostname”. It takes the name from /etc/passwd. See vipw(8) for cha

mail command - change "from address" for Charlie Root

2023-05-05 Thread Nino Sidoti
ignored when the daily output reports are generated. I send the daily reports to my personal email and have configure /etc/mail/aliases so that “root” is using my personal email. I am using openBSD 7.3 AMD64. Thank you

Re: Mail Etiquette: Reply above or below

2023-03-09 Thread chohag
March 7th, 2023 at 03:50, Peter N. M. Hansteen > wrote: > > > For whatever reason, Microsoft's Outlook or possibly earlier Microsoft mail > > client products dragged in a convention of quoting the whole thread (even > > though > > those early clients did not in

Re: Mail Etiquette: Reply above or below

2023-03-09 Thread Eric Johnson
--- Original Message --- On Tuesday, March 7th, 2023 at 03:50, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > For whatever reason, Microsoft's Outlook or possibly earlier Microsoft mail > client products dragged in a convention of quoting the whole thread (even > though > those early c

Re: Mail Etiquette: Reply above or below

2023-03-08 Thread Stuart Longland
and the full > text appear - depending on the client. Some email clients (e.g. both Claws Mail and Thunderbird), allow you to highlight a piece of text in an email, hit reply, and it'll include *just* that block of quoted text. Handy for situations like this. Sadly, not sure about text

[OT] Re: Mail Etiquette: Reply above or below

2023-03-08 Thread Stuart Longland
ile so it's possible to verbatim quote someone's paragraphs and append your reply below unlike dead-tree snail mail, where you'd have to re-write what the other party said (or involving a photocopier, some scissors and some glue in the process). Regards, -- Stuart Longland (aka R

Re: Mail Etiquette: Reply above or below

2023-03-07 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 11:58:14AM +0100, Christer Solskogen wrote: Someone way smarter than me said this: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Why is top-posting such a bad thing? Top-posting. What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? You sure? ... Quoting

Re: Mail Etiquette: Reply above or below

2023-03-07 Thread Daniele B.
I'd like to state that unfortunately sometimes it is simply that we forget to deselect/delete the whole quoted text from the bottom and this why almost in my case both the selected quoted text and the full text appear - depending on the client. Talking about email clients I want to spread the voic

Re: Mail Etiquette: Reply above or below

2023-03-07 Thread Stuff Received
On 2023-03-07 04:50, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote (in part): For whatever reason, Microsoft's Outlook or possibly earlier Microsoft mail client products dragged in a convention of quoting the whole thread (even though those early clients did not in fact have the thread concept) and puttin

Re: Mail Etiquette: Reply above or below

2023-03-07 Thread Johannes Thyssen Tishman
be to offer your own input in several blocks, directly following the > parts you are responding to. > > For whatever reason, Microsoft's Outlook or possibly earlier Microsoft mail > client products dragged in a convention of quoting the whole thread (even > though > those ea

Re: Mail Etiquette: Reply above or below

2023-03-07 Thread Katherine Mcmillan
Hello Johannes, Firstly, others have written helpful and correct responses, please follow these suggestions. Those replies also look perfect and are easy to follow in my personal mail client (which is Outlook). For the record, there are members of this community that couldn't care le

Re: Mail Etiquette: Reply above or below

2023-03-07 Thread 宋文武
Johannes Thyssen Tishman writes: > Hi, Hello, > When I reply to an email I do so above the senders message, however I > see many people in the mailing lists replying below it. Is this the > preferred way or just preference? Thanks. Yes, there are "top-posting", "bottom posting" and "inline pos

Re: Mail Etiquette: Reply above or below

2023-03-07 Thread Christer Solskogen
smarter than me said this: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Why is top-posting such a bad thing? Top-posting. What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? -- chs

Re: Mail Etiquette: Reply above or below

2023-03-07 Thread Zé Loff
On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 09:36:10AM +, Johannes Thyssen Tishman wrote: > Hi, > > When I reply to an email I do so above the senders message, however I > see many people in the mailing lists replying below it. Is this the > preferred way or just preference? Thanks. > > Kind regards, > Johann

Re: Mail Etiquette: Reply above or below

2023-03-07 Thread Johannes Thyssen Tishman
2023-03-07T09:52:48Z 宋文武 : > Johannes Thyssen Tishman writes: > >> Hi, > > Hello, > >> When I reply to an email I do so above the senders message, however I >> see many people in the mailing lists replying below it. Is this the >> preferred way or just preference? Thanks. > > Yes, there are "to

Re: Mail Etiquette: Reply above or below

2023-03-07 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Microsoft's Outlook or possibly earlier Microsoft mail client products dragged in a convention of quoting the whole thread (even though those early clients did not in fact have the thread concept) and putting new text on top. I think this would point to my preference at least. Cue my 2011 rant

Mail Etiquette: Reply above or below

2023-03-07 Thread Johannes Thyssen Tishman
Hi, When I reply to an email I do so above the senders message, however I see many people in the mailing lists replying below it. Is this the preferred way or just preference? Thanks. Kind regards, Johannes

Re: Mail from the command line

2023-02-18 Thread Rodrigo Readi
2023-02-18 13:44 GMT, Crystal Kolipe : > On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 12:47:46PM +, Rodrigo Readi wrote: > Not really. I just described the way that mail is traditionally handled on > a unix workstation, and that still works for a large proportion of users, > myself included. Perh

Re: Mail from the command line

2023-02-18 Thread Crystal Kolipe
On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 12:47:46PM +, Rodrigo Readi wrote: > 2023-02-18 9:47 GMT, Crystal Kolipe : > > Now things have changed, > > Have changed for YOU. It is your solution for your specific way of working > at your place, less mobile. Not really. I just described th

Re: Mail from the command line

2023-02-18 Thread Rodrigo Readi
2023-02-18 9:47 GMT, Crystal Kolipe : > On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 12:50:05AM +, Rodrigo Readi wrote: > When I sit down at my workstation, all of my email is just there. New > mail, complete with all attachments, arrived whilst I was away making coffee > or > whatever, so th

Re: Mail from the command line

2023-02-18 Thread Crystal Kolipe
On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 12:50:05AM +, Rodrigo Readi wrote: > The OP wanted a simple solution The OP just asked how to use '$ mail on the command line'. This is not very specific, which is why I asked exactly what he was trying to do in my first reply. > and the answers

Re: Mail from the command line

2023-02-17 Thread Rodrigo Readi
hy is this an issue in your specific use case? Yes, bandwidth and speed play a big role. Yes, I could download all emails with fetchmail or mbsync. Yes, I could use an Email server, and I have one running, with sendmail and cyrusimap. But my mail does not go through my server, but through 3 party provid

Re: Mail from the command line

2023-02-17 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Rodrigo Readi wrote in : |2023-02-17 19:16 GMT, Steffen Nurpmeso : |>|>> modern requirements (html-mail, attachements). |> |> These both s-nail can (the former likely via mailcap). | |Yes, as I did it with BSD mail. | |But the main problem remains: with s-nail and m

Re: Mail from the command line

2023-02-17 Thread Crystal Kolipe
age, (I.E. you are on a metered connection and want to reduce data usage), or is it due to speed, in other words browsing through your inbox is slower than it needs to be due to downloading all attachments instead of just the text part? Storing your mail long-term on a remote server and accessing

Re: Mail from the command line

2023-02-17 Thread Rodrigo Readi
2023-02-17 19:16 GMT, Steffen Nurpmeso : > |>> modern requirements (html-mail, attachements). > > These both s-nail can (the former likely via mailcap). Yes, as I did it with BSD mail. But the main problem remains: with s-nail and mutt you have to download all attachments even i

Re: Mail from the command line

2023-02-17 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Steffen Nurpmeso wrote in <20230217191605.lu6ph%stef...@sdaoden.eu>: |deich...@placebonol.com wrote in | <11709eb8-1507-4c76-a042-4c1d016e4...@placebonol.com>: ... ||>> And alpine is easier to configure, it works with gmail's xoauth2, Btw i have written a python3 script that can GMail, Outloo

Re: Mail from the command line

2023-02-17 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
deich...@placebonol.com wrote in <11709eb8-1507-4c76-a042-4c1d016e4...@placebonol.com>: |Also take a look at s-nail, it is not an email application, but a very \ |useful utility. It is BSD Mail on steroids i would say in "Theo" mode. (Though a lot is to be done. And unveil() a

Re: Mail from the command line

2023-02-17 Thread deich...@placebonol.com
23-02-16 13:42 GMT, Andrew : >> > Thanks Crystal for your reply and encouragement, >> > I'll explore all your suggestions and references when I have enough time. >> >> If you do not have tine, better install and use alpine. >> >> You can read mail from a prov

Re: Mail from the command line

2023-02-17 Thread Andrew Mitchell
If you do not have tine, better install and use alpine. > > You can read mail from a provider with imap without having to download > the attachements. > Mutt is not able to do that. > > And alpine is easier to configure, it works with gmail's xoauth2, > displays html-mail. > &

Re: Mail from the command line

2023-02-17 Thread Rodrigo Readi
2023-02-16 13:42 GMT, Andrew : > Thanks Crystal for your reply and encouragement, > I'll explore all your suggestions and references when I have enough time. If you do not have tine, better install and use alpine. You can read mail from a provider with imap without having to d

Re: Mail from the command line

2023-02-16 Thread Andrew
cipe for using $ mail on the command line? Or a web > link > > that proposes one.* > > > > The man pages are great but they are meant for people with great > technical > > skills, which I am not. > > What exactly are you trying to set up? > > Local mail w

Re: Mail from the command line

2023-02-16 Thread Crystal Kolipe
On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 12:27:37PM +0100, Andrew wrote: > *Do you know any recipe for using $ mail on the command line? Or a web link > that proposes one.* > > The man pages are great but they are meant for people with great technical > skills, which I am not. What exactly are yo

Re: Mail from the command line

2023-02-16 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 12:27:37PM +0100, Andrew wrote: > > *Do you know any recipe for using $ mail on the command line? Or a web link > that proposes one.* typing "using mail from the command line" into a search engine yields quite a few hits. This one https://phoenixna

Mail from the command line

2023-02-16 Thread Andrew
Hi Misc, I'm so sorry guys if that question has been asked too often. *Do you know any recipe for using $ mail on the command line? Or a web link that proposes one.* The man pages are great but they are meant for people with great technical skills, which I am not. And web pages are fu

Re: Why some mail were lost, is this common?

2023-02-10 Thread Cristian Margine
, February 10th, 2023 at 8:11 PM, Luke A. Call wrote: > > > pair.com also seems to work well as a mail provider (online, pop, or > imap, no weird games). > > On 2023-02-10 12:39:13+0800, Adriel Peng peng.adr...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Hmm I am the person working for em

Re: Why some mail were lost, is this common?

2023-02-10 Thread Luke A. Call
pair.com also seems to work well as a mail provider (online, pop, or imap, no weird games). On 2023-02-10 12:39:13+0800, Adriel Peng wrote: > Hmm I am the person working for email delivery. > don't use mail.ru who blocks a lot of lists mail every day. > Use gmail instead. If gmail

Re: Why some mail were lost, is this common?

2023-02-09 Thread Digua Dong
Thanks! OpenMbox.net has the most suckless interface I've ever seen, I like it. Hope this is the last time I change the mail service. If this don't work well, I'll probably just build my own, (using my friends' domain xd) digua On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 04:39:13AM +, Adri

Re: Why some mail were lost, is this common?

2023-02-09 Thread Adriel Peng
Hmm I am the person working for email delivery. don't use mail.ru who blocks a lot of lists mail every day. Use gmail instead. If gmail is unavailable in your country, then try Fastmail/riseup/GMX etc, or even the new one OpenMbox.net Regards On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 10:06 AM Digua Dong

Why some mail were lost, is this common?

2023-02-09 Thread Digua Dong
hello new to mailing list I'm previously using zohomail.cn and some of email from mailing list are lost. I thought, it is in China, so probably because of GFW? And one weird thing: if I delete Notification folder, I can't receive any mail. Then I switched to mail.ru, but still can

Re: Use daily(8), weekly(8), or monthly(8) but read less mail

2022-12-27 Thread Puru Shartha
ure. I also see > no support for running ROOTBACKUP outside of the daily script. > Of course I could change the scripts, but I would rather not. > Also, once I receive the mail, I don't see an easy way to classify > it as having a failure or not. > > What do you do if you want t

Re: Use daily(8), weekly(8), or monthly(8) but read less mail

2022-12-25 Thread Jason McIntyre
t; the daily, weekly, or monthly mails only on failure. I also see > no support for running ROOTBACKUP outside of the daily script. > Of course I could change the scripts, but I would rather not. > Also, once I receive the mail, I don't see an easy way to classify > it as having a f

Re: Use daily(8), weekly(8), or monthly(8) but read less mail

2022-12-25 Thread Claus Assmann
On Sun, Dec 25, 2022, Ibsen S Ripsbusker wrote: > ... want > to read reports only when something failed? Use a mail filter. #!/bin/sh # filter (in)security mails: # if it's only this: return 1 which causes the mail to be discarded egrep -v '^(Running security|Checking the /e

Re: Use daily(8), weekly(8), or monthly(8) but read less mail

2022-12-25 Thread Stuart Henderson
onthly mails only on failure. I also see > no support for running ROOTBACKUP outside of the daily script. > Of course I could change the scripts, but I would rather not. > Also, once I receive the mail, I don't see an easy way to classify > it as having a failure or not. > > Wh

Use daily(8), weekly(8), or monthly(8) but read less mail

2022-12-25 Thread Ibsen S Ripsbusker
ACKUP outside of the daily script. Of course I could change the scripts, but I would rather not. Also, once I receive the mail, I don't see an easy way to classify it as having a failure or not. What do you do if you want to use the altroot facility (or some other part of the periodic system m

Re: embarrassing mail problem

2022-10-06 Thread Steven Shockley
On 10/5/2022 5:04 PM, Steve Fairhead wrote: I have several OpenBSD email servers, some elderly (Sendmail) and some brand-spanking new (smtpd). Recently I've noticed that some (of both kinds) are failing to deliver mail to some major UK ISPs. (Mostly domestic; business ISPs not so much.)

Re: embarrassing mail problem

2022-10-06 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2022-10-05, Steve Fairhead wrote: > I have several OpenBSD email servers, some elderly (Sendmail) and some > brand-spanking new (smtpd). Recently I've noticed that some (of both > kinds) are failing to deliver mail to some major UK ISPs. (Mostly > domestic; business

Re: embarrassing mail problem

2022-10-05 Thread Jeremy Mates
On Wed, Oct 05, 2022 at 10:04:36PM +0100, Steve Fairhead wrote: > For Sendmail, the error is "TLS handshake failed"; for smtpd, it's > "Network error on destination MXs". one "fix" would be to disable TLS for the domains in question, which at leas

Re: embarrassing mail problem

2022-10-05 Thread Tom Smyth
upgrade to 7.0 btw mxtoolbox.com has some useful tests that could help you diagnose mail flow issues... DMARC + DKIM would be worth looking at... also check the spamhaus PBL... if your isp suddenly added their subscriber ip ranges to the PBL this could negatively impact you if your mail server

embarrassing mail problem

2022-10-05 Thread Steve Fairhead
everal OpenBSD email servers, some elderly (Sendmail) and some brand-spanking new (smtpd). Recently I've noticed that some (of both kinds) are failing to deliver mail to some major UK ISPs. (Mostly domestic; business ISPs not so much.) For Sendmail, the error is "TLS handshake failed";

Re: Mutt cannot sent mail in OpenBsd

2022-07-09 Thread Wim Stockman
Hi, Thanks Stuart, I figured it out. So silly my SMTP server was indeerd serving a different cert than my imap server (DOVECOT). I used the mail.thinkerwim.org.crt instead of mail.thinkerwim.org.fullchain.pem Thank bsd team for helping me :-). See you around Bye Wim Stockman On Sat, Jul 09, 2

Re: Mutt cannot sent mail in OpenBsd

2022-07-09 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2022-07-08, Stuart Henderson wrote: > You are missing the intermediate certificate on the server. visually: imap - presents an intermediate cert, providing a path to the trusted root cert --- Certificate chain 0 s:/CN=mail.thinkerwim.org i:/C=US/O=Let's Encrypt/CN=R3 1 s:/C=US/O=Let's E

Re: Mutt cannot sent mail in OpenBsd

2022-07-08 Thread wim
Indeed , OpenBSD uses LibreSSL 3.5.2 and my Artix Linux runs Openssl The LibreSSL says : Verify return code: 20 (unable to get local issuer certificate) And the OpenSSL says : Verify return code: 21 (unable to verify the first certificate) Here is the diff from both. 4,5c4,5 <  0 s:CN = mail

Re: Mutt cannot sent mail in OpenBsd

2022-07-08 Thread Zé Loff
On Fri, Jul 08, 2022 at 07:22:51PM +0200, Wim wrote: > The strange thing is that the client machine and server are the same... The client's not necessarily the same. Linux might be using OpenSSL, OpenBSD is almost certainly using LibreSSL, there might be differences on the root certificates accep

Re: Mutt cannot sent mail in OpenBsd

2022-07-08 Thread Stuart Henderson
You are missing the intermediate certificate on the server. On 2022-07-08, wim wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I have this weird issue. > I can read the mails with mutt on openbsd but when I want to sent I get > this message from the mutt log: > [2022-07-08 14:33:16] mutt_send_message() Sending mess

Re: Mutt cannot sent mail in OpenBsd

2022-07-08 Thread Wim
The strange thing is that the client machine and server are the same... Maybe Mut looks into the wrong place. I installed mutt from the openbsd package and using openbsd 7.1 Thanks for the help. Kind regards Wim Philipp Buehler schreef op 8 juli 2022 16:31:31 CEST: >Am 08.07.2022 15:49 schrieb

Re: Mutt cannot sent mail in OpenBsd

2022-07-08 Thread Philipp Buehler
Am 08.07.2022 15:49 schrieb Dave Voutila: $ openssl s_client -showcerts -servername mail.thinkerwim.org -connect mail.thinkerwim.org:587 `-starttls smtp` helps a lot. The cert is there (also on :25 ftm) and signed by LE. The rub is that the mutt client machine does not know that issuer, See

Re: Mutt cannot sent mail in OpenBsd

2022-07-08 Thread Dave Voutila
wim writes: > Hi everybody, > > I have this weird issue. > I can read the mails with mutt on openbsd but when I want to sent I > get this message from the mutt log: > [2022-07-08 14:33:16] mutt_send_message() Sending message... > [2022-07-08 14:33:16] raw_socket_open() Looking up mail.thinkerwi

Mutt cannot sent mail in OpenBsd

2022-07-08 Thread wim
Hi everybody, I have this weird issue. I can read the mails with mutt on openbsd but when I want to sent I get this message from the mutt log: [2022-07-08 14:33:16] mutt_send_message() Sending message... [2022-07-08 14:33:16] raw_socket_open() Looking up mail.thinkerwim.org... [2022-07-08 14:33

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