On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 12:47:46PM +0000, Rodrigo Readi wrote: > 2023-02-18 9:47 GMT, Crystal Kolipe <kolipe.c@exoticsilicoom>: > > Now things have changed, > > Have changed for YOU. It is your solution for your specific way of working > at your place, less mobile.
Not really. I just described the way that mail is traditionally handled on a unix workstation, and that still works for a large proportion of users, myself included. > > But locking new users in to using specific programs from ports in order to > > give them a quick answer is not a great solution. In the future they'll > > find > > themselves saying, "I have to use mail client FOO on OpenBSD, because it's > > the only one that supports BAR, which I've come to rely on". > > No. For that there are standards. Here SMTP for sending, IMAP for getting. > You can use any client that follows the standards. But you have found that in practice this is not always the case, because the clients that are available and which broadly implement the standards don't provide the specific sub-features that you want, such as downloading just the text part without attachments over IMAP. > And I repeat, IMAP is not POP3, it is not for retrieving all mails, But it can be used for that purpose, and there are good reasons to prefer it over POP3 for retrieving all mails because it supports push via the IDLE command and therefore avoids the need to poll at short intervals. A very long time ago, I wrote a ~23 Kb perl script to do exactly that, and on the rare occasions that I need to monitor mail from external servers which are not under our direct control and to which I only have POP3/IMAP access, it works fine. > and it was invented for good reasons. > > Unfortunately CLI clients are not being adapted to today's requirements. The OP asked about using mail from the command line without elaborating on his specific configuration, (fixed or mobile, ISP, etc). Since by your own definition, CLI clients are not adapted to your way of working, but rather still favour the traditional way of downloading all mail to a local mail spool, why would it make sense to assume that somebody asking about CLI clients and not mentioning remote or mobile access, has these requirements and has a similar way of working to yours? > Alpine seems to have only one developer. I'm sure they would be happy to receive patches from you :-).
