Re: Hardening OpenBSD : Just delete!

2010-03-14 Thread mehma sarja
hadly hadened (Boston dialect) if Guido is not watching it. Mehma === On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Han Boetes wrote: > Chris Bennett wrote: > > You people have no sense of where security really lies at! > > If you don't remove the hard drive, there is no security at all! > > I simply put m

Re: Hardening OpenBSD : Just delete!

2010-03-14 Thread Han Boetes
Chris Bennett wrote: > You people have no sense of where security really lies at! > If you don't remove the hard drive, there is no security at all! I simply put my servers into armored concrete. After that I dump them somewhere in the middle of the ocean where the level is at least 3 km. That's h

Re: Hardening OpenBSD : Just delete!

2010-03-14 Thread Steve Shockley
On 3/14/2010 5:32 PM, bofh wrote: Amateur. I remove the entire computer for complete security. Sloppy work. You didn't delete the computer's account from Active Directory.

Re: Hardening OpenBSD : Just delete!

2010-03-14 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:54:55 +0100 Robert wrote: > Chris Bennett wrote: > > Matthias Kilian wrote: > >> On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 08:51:05PM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote: > >> > > ( http://geodsoft.com/howto/harden/OpenBSD/remove_files.htm ) > > > He forgot to remove sh(1), un

Re: Hardening OpenBSD : Just delete!

2010-03-14 Thread Robert
Chris Bennett wrote: Matthias Kilian wrote: On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 08:51:05PM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote: ( http://geodsoft.com/howto/harden/OpenBSD/remove_files.htm ) He forgot to remove sh(1), unvis(1) and chmod(1). and getty(8), login(8), and /bsd Better remove th

Re: Hardening OpenBSD : Just delete!

2010-03-14 Thread bofh
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Chris Bennett < ch...@bennettconstruction.biz> wrote: > You people have no sense of where security really lies at! > If you don't remove the hard drive, there is no security at all! > > Amateur. I remove the entire computer for complete security. -- http://www.

Re: Hardening OpenBSD : Just delete!

2010-03-14 Thread Chris Bennett
Matthias Kilian wrote: On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 08:51:05PM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote: ( http://geodsoft.com/howto/harden/OpenBSD/remove_files.htm ) He forgot to remove sh(1), unvis(1) and chmod(1). and getty(8), login(8), and /bsd Better remove the mainboard. That's w

Re: Hardening OpenBSD : Just delete!

2010-03-14 Thread Ozgur Kazancci
- Matthias Kilian wrote: > On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 08:51:05PM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote: > > > > ( http://geodsoft.com/howto/harden/OpenBSD/remove_files.htm ) > > > > > > He forgot to remove sh(1), unvis(1) and chmod(1). > > > > and getty(8), login(8), and /bsd > > Better remove the mainbo

Re: Hardening OpenBSD : Just delete!

2010-03-14 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 08:51:05PM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote: > > > ( http://geodsoft.com/howto/harden/OpenBSD/remove_files.htm ) > > > > He forgot to remove sh(1), unvis(1) and chmod(1). > > and getty(8), login(8), and /bsd Better remove the mainboard. That's way more secure and takes less eff

Re: Hardening OpenBSD : Just delete!

2010-03-14 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 08:36:04PM +0100, Matthias Kilian wrote: > On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 05:43:43PM +0200, Ozgur Kazancci wrote: > > Is this a joke? > > No, just complete idiocy. The person who wrote this bullshit clearly > qualifies for the german parliament. > > > (Removing OpenBSD unnecessa

Re: Hardening OpenBSD : Just delete!

2010-03-14 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 05:43:43PM +0200, Ozgur Kazancci wrote: > Is this a joke? No, just complete idiocy. The person who wrote this bullshit clearly qualifies for the german parliament. > (Removing OpenBSD unnecessary and/or dangerous files) > > http://geodsoft.com/howto/harden/OpenBSD/remove.

Re: Hardening OpenBSD : Just delete!

2010-03-14 Thread Matthew Szudzik
There are different definitions of "security". When OpenBSD is advertised as being secure, it means that users do not have access to root. In contrast, this person appears to equate security with total authoritarian control of what users can do. My favorite quote from http://geodsoft.com/howto

Re: Hardening OpenBSD : Just delete!

2010-03-14 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Ozgur Kazancci writes: > Is this a joke? As far as I can tell from browsing the site, he meant it as he wrote it. It's possible this fit his particular application well, but I find it a bit hard right off to tell what the real purpose was. More importantly, note the dates and versions. This

Re: Hardening OpenBSD : Just delete!

2010-03-14 Thread Igor Sobrado
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Robert wrote: > > There is nothing wrong with cripling an os by deleting files, if one > isn't hurting enough yet. > If some random textfile referencing 2.8 helps you achieve what you > want, go for it. There are very good reasons to remove files from an operating

Re: Hardening OpenBSD : Just delete!

2010-03-14 Thread Robert
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:43:43 +0200 (EET) Ozgur Kazancci wrote: > Hello. > Is this a joke? Uh, yes, i guess your mail could be considered a joke by some people. (: There is nothing wrong with cripling an os by deleting files, if one isn't hurting enough yet. If some random textfile referencing

Re: Hardening OpenBSD : Just delete!

2010-03-14 Thread Ted Unangst
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Ozgur Kazancci wrote: > Hello. > Is this a joke? > > (Removing OpenBSD unnecessary and/or dangerous files) Welcome to the internet. Caution: idiots ahead.

Re: Hardening OpenBSD : Just delete!

2010-03-14 Thread Ross Cameron
Well that depends really. If you dont need something why have it on you're machine? Even if it's not a networked application it may make life easier one someone does crack their way into you're machine. Personally I like to lock things down as much as possible, just because I find that in the

Hardening OpenBSD : Just delete!

2010-03-14 Thread Ozgur Kazancci
Hello. Is this a joke? (Removing OpenBSD unnecessary and/or dangerous files) http://geodsoft.com/howto/harden/OpenBSD/remove.txt ( http://geodsoft.com/howto/harden/OpenBSD/remove_files.htm ) -- Ozgur