I'd like to correct the record here, because you're Misrepresenting with a
capital "M":
Comixwall shut down beacuse Soner Tari, the guy who put it all together,
got butt-hurt after unsuccessfully trying to advertise his project on this
mailing list. Theo's apparent tough
On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 06:59:32AM -0700, français wrote:
> I always find it amusing how OpenBSD is "audited", yet there's not one audit
> report on the OpenBSD website. The closest answer I've been able to find on
> the mailing list is to review all of the CVS commit logs. Yeah, that's not
> opaqu
> Both, however, ended up shutting down after Theo and various users told them
> that their projects were worthless and that they weren't contributing to
> OpenBSD.
>
I guess they didn't strongly believe in their added value if they cancelled the
project after someone told them it was not worth.
You only need a great deal of memory if you wish to use deduplication,
which is an optional ZFS feature that some people consider worth the
cost. While the complexity and licensing of ZFS make it inappropriate
for inclusion in OpenBSD, at least in the near future, let's not throw
around insults as
owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of
> Peter N. M. Hansteen
> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 6:51 AM
> To: misc@openbsd.org
> Subject: Re: Because Theo and various users told them that the projects
> GnoBSD and Comixwall were worthless and that they weren't contributing to
&g
ney
-Original Message-
From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of
Peter N. M. Hansteen
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 6:51 AM
To: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: Because Theo and various users told them that the projects
GnoBSD and Comixwall were worthles
he bigger problem with OpenBSD is it's community. In the FreeBSD world, you
have PC-BSD and pfsense, both of which are generally welcomed by the
community. With OpenBSD, there were two sister projects that tried to target
a similar audience: GnoBSD and Comixwall. Comixwall was the equivalent of
pf
> have PC-BSD and pfsense, both of which are generally welcomed by the
> community. With OpenBSD, there were two sister projects that tried to
> target
> a similar audience: GnoBSD and Comixwall. Comixwall was the equivalent of
> pfsense for easy router/firewall management and GnoBSD was
Look if you don't want to use OpenBSD don't use OpenBSD. If you are so
easily swayed over just because someone said something then it's your
fault, don't blame others. I like OpenBSD and I will keep using it as long
as there are developers that keep it going. No matter what anyone tells me
I can't
commit logs. Yeah, that's not
> opaque in the slightest...
>
> The bigger problem with OpenBSD is it's community. In the FreeBSD world, you
> have PC-BSD and pfsense, both of which are generally welcomed by the
> community. With OpenBSD, there were two sister projects that trie
with OpenBSD is it's community. In the FreeBSD world,
> you
> have PC-BSD and pfsense, both of which are generally welcomed by the
> community. With OpenBSD, there were two sister projects that tried to
> target
> a similar audience: GnoBSD and Comixwall. Comixwall was the equivalent
blem with OpenBSD is it's community. In the FreeBSD world, you
have PC-BSD and pfsense, both of which are generally welcomed by the
community. With OpenBSD, there were two sister projects that tried to target
a similar audience: GnoBSD and Comixwall. Comixwall was the equivalent of
pfsense for e
"R0me0 ***" writes:
> Someone use comixwall ?
it's been more than a year since that project was announced
'terminated', so i wouldn't be overly optimistic about finding other
users (see http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=126037728930452&w=2 and
referenc
Hello there,
Someone use comixwall ?
Please contact me
Regards,
Yes, I think that's the point.
It's just so sad that ComixWall will be terminated, in fact I doesn't
use it, but it's a very nice thing what Soner Tari have achieved.
It really could be an excellent port to the system, and being a port
certainly would be more useful to OpenB
009 at 03:12:34PM -0200, dark knight neo wrote:
> > Yes ..
> > You have all the reason .
> >
> > I ask .
> >
> > THEO,
> >
> > Which the reason for not announce the Comixwall in the OpenBSD misc list ?
> > I would like to understand.
> >
&
Because it doesn't fucking belong there. How hard is that to get
through your skull?
Now go back to Norway.
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 03:12:34PM -0200, dark knight neo wrote:
> Yes ..
> You have all the reason .
>
> I ask .
>
> THEO,
>
> Which the reason for not
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 03:12:34PM -0200, dark knight neo wrote:
> Yes ..
> You have all the reason .
Seriously, STFU. Take it offlist with individuals if you still have
questions.
--
Jason Dixon
DixonGroup Consulting
http://www.dixongroup.net/
Yes ..
You have all the reason .
I ask .
THEO,
Which the reason for not announce the Comixwall in the OpenBSD misc list ?
I would like to understand.
My best regards
2009/12/12 FRLinux
> On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 3:05 PM, dark knight neo
> wrote:
> > Since when announ
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 3:05 PM, dark knight neo wrote:
> Since when announcing is spam ?
> Being that the Comixwall is OpenBSD
> Why Theo don't announcing or put a link in the OpenBSD website to Comixwall
> website ?
> Why no think in the collective one ?
Regardless of
Since when announcing is spam ?
Being that the Comixwall is OpenBSD
Why Theo don't announcing or put a link in the OpenBSD website to Comixwall
website ?
Why no think in the collective one ?
2009/12/12 J Sisson
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:54 PM, wrote:
>
> > This isn't
Theo
said stop it, and the OP challenged Theo's decision. Theo had every right
to be pissed. I'm not disagreeing there.
2) money. I was responding to a post about the OpenBSD team losing CD sales
due to ComixWall. I fail to see how that doesn't concern money.
J Sisson wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Eric Furman wrote:
>
> > It is simple. ComixWall was a *Distribution*.
> > It directly competes with OpenBSD.
> > People could obtain ComixWall directly from his web site.
> > This means *less* CD sales.
>
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Eric Furman wrote:
> It is simple. ComixWall was a *Distribution*.
> It directly competes with OpenBSD.
> People could obtain ComixWall directly from his web site.
> This means *less* CD sales.
> CD sales are the main source of income for OpenB
Eric Furman wrote:
It is simple. ComixWall was a *Distribution*.
It directly competes with OpenBSD.
People could obtain ComixWall directly from his web site.
This means *less* CD sales.
CD sales are the main source of income for OpenBSD.
Therefore ComixWall *hurts* OpenBSD.
Theo's hostili
he security
> And OpenBSD by yourself already make this.
> Comixwall is only one frontend wrote in php to control some services such
> as
> Dansguardian .
> But no lost the focus of the security
> To me , it's all a big BULLSHIT
> Comixwall don't compete with OpenBSD
I think the follow about this:
The OpenBSD project must and need to keep simple .
The more important is not lost the focus of the security
And OpenBSD by yourself already make this.
Comixwall is only one frontend wrote in php to control some services such as
Dansguardian .
But no lost the focus
It is simple. ComixWall was a *Distribution*.
It directly competes with OpenBSD.
People could obtain ComixWall directly from his web site.
This means *less* CD sales.
CD sales are the main source of income for OpenBSD.
Therefore ComixWall *hurts* OpenBSD.
Theo's hostility is compl
wherever it may sit.
What's wrong with posting OpenBSD-related 'adverts', and in this
special case with ComixWall which is totally free ?
Well, if the principle is that this list is to build and support
community around OpenBSD, it's a question about what's considered
ap
Bayard Bell wrote:
This is levelling down a distinction: there's spam that's definitely
spam
[evil cut]
Conversely, with time spent talking
... time we wont get back, and that wont further either project.
Net gain for everyone? 0.
nically doesn't mean members shouldn't intervene
against a different class of posting.
What's wrong with posting OpenBSD-related 'adverts', and in this
special case with ComixWall which is totally free ?
Well, if the principle is that this list is to build and support
co
Its so sad...
Because of a lack of respect and a little humility all this shit is taking
place.
To make a mistake is human, to forgive is divine.
Respect and honor for who deserve it.
My best regards
Fabio Almeida
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 10:19:38AM +0100, P-O Yliniemi wrote:
> Jacob Meuser skrev 2009-12-10 16:32:
> >On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:21:34PM +, Michal wrote:
> >>So what...someone was wrong
> >what was wrong here was Soner Tari posting private emails to a public
> >mailing lists.
> >
> There are
=?utf-8?q?[blog_deco_et_design]_nouveaut=c3=a9s_my-deco-shop_-_m...@openbsd.org?=
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:30:07 +0100
What's wrong with posting OpenBSD-related 'adverts', and in this special
case with ComixWall which is totally free ?
I agree with a lot of the other posts t
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:19 AM, spamtester spamtester
wrote:
> if you can't see that users come in many shapes and forms you are seriously
> *wrong*.
---
I think the point is that while users are very different, we should
learn how things happen here and respect that by adjusting our
behavio
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:21:34PM +, Michal wrote:
> So what...someone was wrong
what was wrong here was Soner Tari posting private emails to a public
mailing lists.
--
jake...@sdf.lonestar.org
SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 3:19 PM, spamtester spamtester
wrote:
> Seriously, theo wtf ?
> Openbsd slow "masterbating monkies", Always late to the security party
(how
> many years late for PIE ? etc.)
nice troll
Seriously, theo wtf ?
Here is a packaged version of openbsd which doesn't ask for donations
providing something which users clearly want.
if you can't see that users come in many shapes and forms you are seriously
*wrong*. I for one would suggest that comixwall moves to freebsd, due to
So what...someone was wrong, someone's train of thought was wrong...so
what? Someone posts something and it's the wrong place...ok, say this
isn't the place and move on. If this person though they where helping
and people think they are not...well they have a different opinion but
really they haven
Soner Tari writes:
> Due to unexpected reaction from the leader of the OpenBSD project
> (please read below), I am terminating the ComixWall project.
Do you cut yourself when somebody yells at you just to show them?
>>> I will feel stupid continuing with this project whil
Am 9 Dec 2009 um 19:01 schrieb Christopher Zimmermann:
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:38:56 -0500
Jason Dixon wrote:
How does the announcement of new releases for ComixWall
help OpenBSD?
It helps in promoting OpenBSD. And this is the official
purpose of the advocasy mailing list.
So I think that
On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 08:01:05PM +0100, Christopher Zimmermann wrote:
> > How does abstraction of arguably the cleanest, easiest to
> > learn UNIX, help OpenBSD?
>
> It helps in promoting OpenBSD. Promoting OpenBSD will make
> OpenBSD more widely known. This will attract more possible
> develo
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 20:43:59 +0100
Martin Schr__der wrote:
> 2009/12/9 Christopher Zimmermann :
> > On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:38:56 -0500
> > Jason Dixon wrote:
> >
> >> How does the announcement of new releases for ComixWall
> >> help OpenBSD?
> >
>
nBSD more widely known. This will attract more possible
> > developers. They will write code for OpenBSD. This will help
> > OpenBSD.
>
> No. It helps promoting ComixWall and it will attract people to
> ComixWall and those people will contribute to ComixWall.
See there Michiel ..
> So .. in the end, the fact that ComixWall uses OpenBSD as it's
> fundation, _does_ help promote OpenBSD use and expand it's user
> base
Bullshit.
Please get this off our lists.
2009/12/9 Christopher Zimmermann :
> On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:38:56 -0500
> Jason Dixon wrote:
>
>> How does the announcement of new releases for ComixWall
>> help OpenBSD?
>
> It helps in promoting OpenBSD. And this is the official
> purpose of the advocasy mailing
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Christopher Zimmermann
wrote:
> If this is true, it's a pity. Then comixwall just died.
>
> Theo told Soner to cease. Soner came back with "if you don't tell me you
were just joking, I'm going to terminate the Comixwall project".
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Christopher Zimmermann
wrote:
> It helps in promoting OpenBSD. Promoting OpenBSD will make
> OpenBSD more widely known. This will attract more possible
> developers. They will write code for OpenBSD. This will help
> OpenBSD.
If OpenBSD is hard to use, people shoul
OpenBSD. This will help
> OpenBSD.
No. It helps promoting ComixWall and it will attract people to ComixWall
and those people will contribute to ComixWall.
While rereading that I see 'ComixWall' three times, and OpenBSD 0 times.
>
> > > I know I just added some additiona
On Wednesday 09 December 2009 5:01:05 pm Christopher Zimmermann wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:38:56 -0500
>
> Jason Dixon wrote:
> > How does the announcement of new releases for ComixWall
> > help OpenBSD?
>
> It helps in promoting OpenBSD. And this is the officia
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:38:56 -0500
Jason Dixon wrote:
> How does the announcement of new releases for ComixWall
> help OpenBSD?
It helps in promoting OpenBSD. And this is the official
purpose of the advocasy mailing list.
So I think that announcements of ComixWall releases could go
in
misc list, not the ports list. They are different. And
if you looked at those mails, you would see that they had ports
attached, not links to openbsd distributions including the port.
> Anyway, comixwall is not a part of the "official" ports
> tree. So the release announcements
dead. So the
> decision to post the announcement of ComixWall to the misc
> list does not seem too stupid to me.
ComixWall != OpenBSD
> > Do we see release announcements on our lists for Firefox?
>
> comixwall is developed to make using OpenBSD easier. It's
How does
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:37:01 -0700
Bob Beck wrote:
> > COMIXWALL isn't a fork, its just a preinstalled
> > configuration panel for OpenBSD and a collection of
> > nice utilities.
> >
> So it belongs as a a port then. Not as a "distibution" -
> and
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Bob Beck wrote:
> the point is simple:
>
> * Release Announcements For things that are not OpenBSD do not belong
> on OpenBSD lists *
>
In both quoted responses Theo specifically mentioned the lists and for the
OP to quit posting ads. I thought the message was q
This is just silly. If you make a firewall distribution to "promote
OpenBSD" instead of making a firewall distribution, your source of
motivation is wrong.
OpenBSD is free software. You are completely free to use it as a basis
for your firewall distribution.
The project, on the other hand, does n
> COMIXWALL isn't a fork, its just a preinstalled configuration panel
> for OpenBSD and a collection of nice utilities.
>
> And considering (and no offence here) the COMIXWALL developers are
> enthusiasts not paid professional developers.
> So where's the harm asking
This is a VERY sad day :(
Personally I managed to convert quite a few people to using OpenBSD by
coaxing an interest via COMIXWALL.
A grand pity and unfortunately if I were you I'd probably have done
the same :( OpenBSD is possibly the cleanest most delightful OS to
work on and most defin
How
> exactly does this help the _OpenBSD_project_?
COMIXWALL isn't a fork, its just a preinstalled configuration panel
for OpenBSD and a collection of nice utilities.
And considering (and no offence here) the COMIXWALL developers are
enthusiasts not paid professional developers.
S
On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 06:31:05PM +0200, Soner Tari wrote:
> Due to unexpected reaction from the leader of the OpenBSD project
> (please read below), I am terminating the ComixWall project. I will keep
> the project server running until the end of this month. I might
> resurrect th
Due to unexpected reaction from the leader of the OpenBSD project
(please read below), I am terminating the ComixWall project. I will keep
the project server running until the end of this month. I might
resurrect the project in the future with another host OS perhaps.
I am going to unsubscribe
I am pleased to announce the release of ComixWall 4.6. This is the 7th
public release of ComixWall ISG. Please go to http://comixwall.org to
download the installation CD image, via bittorrent.
ComixWall is still the only fully FOSS and freely available UTM firewall
running on OpenBSD. You can use
> Po files to be translated can be downloaded at this link:
> http://comixwall.org/dmdocuments/translations/
Now, you can find the following files at the same place:
template.html: Web filter denied page
template_nobypass.html: Web filter denied page without bypass link
fancydmtemplate.html: WF d
I am planning to release ComixWall 4.6 in December. (Please see further
below for a summary of upcoming release announcement.) I am happy to
announce that I have frozen the web user interface strings as one of the
final few stages of the release process.
The ComixWall ISG project needs your help
On Monday 07 July 2008 09:50:07 Diana Eichert wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008, Rainel Roflo wrote:
> > Good day I have successfully installed comixwall 4.2 on my machine but
> > its default pf rules wil l not allow me to connect to internet but if
> > I'm going to disab
On Mon, 7 Jul 2008, Rainel Roflo wrote:
Good day I have successfully installed comixwall 4.2 on my machine but
its default pf rules wil l not allow me to connect to internet but if
I'm going to disable it I can connect to the internet, here is my
pf.conf after installing comixwall.
This
Good day I have successfully installed comixwall 4.2 on my machine but
its default pf rules wil l not allow me to connect to internet but if
I'm going to disable it I can connect to the internet, here is my
pf.conf after installing comixwall.
This is my first time installing OpenBSD and usi
I am pleased to announce that ComixWall ISG 4.2 has been released.
ComixWall is an Internet Security Gateway (ISG): FOSS UTM firewall
running on OpenBSD, with a user-friendly web interface for
administration and monitoring. ComixWall is unique, first of its kind in
many ways.
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