> I always find it amusing how OpenBSD is "audited", yet there's not one > audit > report on the OpenBSD website. The closest answer I've been able to find > on > the mailing list is to review all of the CVS commit logs. Yeah, that's not > opaque in the slightest...
Yes, thats it. The audit of the project is the reputation of Theo de Raadt and the developers in the project. As a coder, you can look at the CVS tree, as a none developer you have to trust the project, as you would trust Microsoft, Apple, Ubuntu or other operating system creators. What helps, if you get a certified by - nothing. On the project website is a line of text kept in red - thats it. Why ? Simple because with every change a user made to the system the audit is destroyed. > The bigger problem with OpenBSD is it's community. In the FreeBSD world, > you > have PC-BSD and pfsense, both of which are generally welcomed by the > community. With OpenBSD, there were two sister projects that tried to > target > a similar audience: GnoBSD and Comixwall. Comixwall was the equivalent of > pfsense for easy router/firewall management and GnoBSD was an attempt to > make an easy-to-use desktop. Both, however, ended up shutting down after > Theo and various users told them that their projects were worthless and > that > they weren't contributing to OpenBSD. I readed only parts of the posts but, the main reason was, that this projects tried to use misc@ for promoting their projects. What they gave back ... code, donations from their userbase ... I don't know. So, if they did, it would maybe change the situation. > Because Theo and various users told them that their projects were > worthless > and that they weren't contributing to OpenBSD? I think worthless is the wrong word. To create a GUI installer is something like to reinvent the wheel. A better way would be a discussion about what people want or need. In OpenBSD are some unwritten rules - I think. OpenBSD had no GUI installer and, will not have one ... for what, the existing does the job well. If a user wants a GUI installer, there is PC-BSD, Ubuntu and so on. Gnome, many people like it and, many hate it. Whats wrong with a cool configured fvwm ? I think, people had to re-learn functionality. If someone wants to create a Live-CD, people could find the project using Google.
