Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-11 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 12:09:19 -0700 (MST) Diana Eichert wrote: > > as an aside. > > anyone know where you can purchase a Portwell CAM-0100 in NA? > > diana > Diana, You might want to give Portwell (in the US) a call: 1-510-403-3399 jcr

Architeture Choose

2010-11-11 Thread Diana Eichert
as an aside. anyone know where you can purchase a Portwell CAM-0100 in NA? diana

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-11 Thread Scott Stanley
> However, you can add one of these for ~30USD: > > sili0 at pci3 dev 1 function 0 "CMD Technology SiI3124 SATA" rev 0x02: apic > 4 int 1 (irq 5) > scsibus1 at sili0: 4 targets > > And an external drive(s) Thanks for the tip (yet another device I didn't know existed). The rackmount hard drive encl

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-11 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 12:11:51AM -0400, Nick Holland wrote: > and a U5 at work that has been running an app for probably the last > ten years with probably less than five hours total downtime (original > disk. I'm scared). In that case you were lucky to have a "good" version of the motherboard

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-10 Thread Eric S Pulley
On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 23:47 +0100, Henning Brauer wrote: > * Scott Stanley [2010-11-09 16:58]: > > I've heard a lot of praise for Sparc gear on this thread. Do many of > > you have much experience with Sun's amd gear? > > avoid at all cost > > > Anyway, I was considering buying a Sun Fire V20z

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-10 Thread Henning Brauer
* Scott Stanley [2010-11-09 16:58]: > I've heard a lot of praise for Sparc gear on this thread. Do many of > you have much experience with Sun's amd gear? avoid at all cost > Anyway, I was considering buying a Sun Fire V20z (amd) as a home > server, and would like to hear about any good or bad e

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-10 Thread Joe McDonagh
On 11/10/2010 12:39 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:45:15 -0500 Joe McDonagh wrote: On 11/10/2010 09:09 AM, Diana Eichert wrote: I just saw the v20z 4.8 dmesg on ajacoutot@ webpage and noticed he was running i386 instead of 64-bit. Curious if that is just a prefere

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-10 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:45:15 -0500 Joe McDonagh wrote: > On 11/10/2010 09:09 AM, Diana Eichert wrote: > > I just saw the v20z 4.8 dmesg on ajacoutot@ webpage and > > noticed he was running i386 instead of 64-bit. Curious > > if that is just a preference on his part or an issue > > with running 6

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-10 Thread Scott Stanley
Thank you all for humoring this caveman's ponderings. I missed one glaring detail about the V20z; SCSI drives ($$). I've got about 800GB of data to serve (very infrequent access; mostly just to stream One Piece episodes to my TV on the weekends, so I figured form factor could take priority over a

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-10 Thread Joe McDonagh
On 11/10/2010 09:09 AM, Diana Eichert wrote: I just saw the v20z 4.8 dmesg on ajacoutot@ webpage and noticed he was running i386 instead of 64-bit. Curious if that is just a preference on his part or an issue with running 64-bit O/S on the box. g.day diana I've had a lot of problems with the

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-10 Thread Felipe Mesquita de Oliveira
Great discussion... I have two deal option: A) Sun V100 - USD$ 350,00 - *Type* Sun UltraSPARC IIi 650.0 MHz - *Cache Per Processor* 512 KB - *Installed Size* 2.0 GB - *Hard Drive* 2.0 x 160.0 GB - Standard - EIDE - 7200.0 rpm B) Sun v20z - USD$ 260,00 Opteron 2x248 2Gb Ram 1x73Gb SC

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-10 Thread Diana Eichert
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010, Landry Breuil wrote: I'm running amd64 on 7 v20z hosts without issues. Landry thanks for the report I'd forgotten these were basically Newisys systems. We had several racks full of the Newisys Opteron servers before they were offically released to the public. Used them

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-10 Thread Landry Breuil
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Diana Eichert wrote: > I just saw the v20z 4.8 dmesg on ajacoutot@ webpage and > noticed he was running i386 instead of 64-bit. Curious > if that is just a preference on his part or an issue > with running 64-bit O/S on the box. I'm running amd64 on 7 v20z hosts

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-10 Thread Diana Eichert
I just saw the v20z 4.8 dmesg on ajacoutot@ webpage and noticed he was running i386 instead of 64-bit. Curious if that is just a preference on his part or an issue with running 64-bit O/S on the box. g.day diana

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-10 Thread Diana Eichert
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2010-11-09, Jeremy Chase wrote: I've looked into v20z's, but was turned off by the cost of a replacement power supply. A new one is roughly 200 USD. A spare v20z probably costs less than that refurbed v20z, US$120 shipped complete server with

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-10 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2010-11-09, Jeremy Chase wrote: > I've looked into v20z's, but was turned off by the cost of a > replacement power supply. A new one is roughly 200 USD. A spare v20z probably costs less than that > Or does the v20z accept a standard 1U power supply? There's no such thing

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-09 Thread Jeremy Chase
I've looked into v20z's, but was turned off by the cost of a replacement power supply. A new one is roughly 200 USD. Or does the v20z accept a standard 1U power supply? -- Jeremy Chase http://twitter.com/jeremychase On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2010-11-09, Scot

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-09 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2010-11-09, Scott Stanley wrote: > I've heard a lot of praise for Sparc gear on this thread. Do many of > you have much experience with Sun's amd gear? > > When using the "I'm only referring to Sparc" disclaimer, what's being > implied here (because I know nobody's saying that hardware fails >

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-09 Thread Eric S Pulley
On Tue, November 9, 2010 8:55 am, Scott Stanley wrote: > I've heard a lot of praise for Sparc gear on this thread. Do many of > you have much experience with Sun's amd gear? > > When using the "I'm only referring to Sparc" disclaimer, what's being > implied here (because I know nobody's saying that

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-09 Thread Amit Kulkarni
We have Sunfire Ultra 40's. I recommended those based on other people buying Sunfire Ultra 20's, V40z, etc in our place. All Ultra 40's run fine after 4 years and its now closer to 5 years. All of them blew their NVidia graphic cards. The other guys have plans to dump them as they follow 5 year ref

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-09 Thread Scott Stanley
I've heard a lot of praise for Sparc gear on this thread. Do many of you have much experience with Sun's amd gear? When using the "I'm only referring to Sparc" disclaimer, what's being implied here (because I know nobody's saying that hardware fails because of the CPU type, or am I wrong on that)?

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-09 Thread SJP Lists
On 9 November 2010 04:44, Christopher Dukes wrote: > On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 14:30 -0400, Joe McDonagh wrote: >> "If your Sun fails" <-- that's a big IF. It's approaching a possibility >> of 0 in my experience. >> >> If performance isn't an issue and stability is your chief goal, none of >> this har

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-08 Thread Felipe Mesquita de Oliveira
Thanks everybodu for the tips... For now, tending to i386/amd64... Found a Sun Fire V20z, 2xOpteron cheaper than the V100... Current candidate for my next server... []'s! On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Joe McDonagh wrote: > On 11/08/2010 12:44 PM, Christopher Dukes wrote: > >> On Fri, 2010-1

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-08 Thread Joe McDonagh
On 11/08/2010 12:44 PM, Christopher Dukes wrote: On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 14:30 -0400, Joe McDonagh wrote: "If your Sun fails"<-- that's a big IF. It's approaching a possibility of 0 in my experience. If performance isn't an issue and stability is your chief goal, none of this hardware is as s

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-08 Thread Bryan Irvine
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Christopher Dukes wrote: > On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 14:30 -0400, Joe McDonagh wrote: >> "If your Sun fails" <-- that's a big IF. It's approaching a possibility >> of 0 in my experience. >> >> If performance isn't an issue and stability is your chief goal, none of >> th

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-08 Thread Christopher Dukes
On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 14:30 -0400, Joe McDonagh wrote: > "If your Sun fails" <-- that's a big IF. It's approaching a possibility > of 0 in my experience. > > If performance isn't an issue and stability is your chief goal, none of > this hardware is as stable as a Sun. Not quite my experience. I

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-07 Thread Eric S Pulley
--On November 5, 2010 9:47:20 AM -0300 Felipe Mesquita de Oliveira wrote: Hi All, I'm long time far from OpenBSD world, but planning to come back. The plan is to buy an old machine, but, maybe try an new platform, if the investment worths... I have these options, all in the same price range:

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-07 Thread Michael Grigoni
On 7 Nov 2010 at 11:32, Henning Brauer wrote: > even the > really ancient ipxes are pbly still ok. can't be bothered to check tho. Still using several ipxes here, online 24/7, one is the obsd border router.

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-07 Thread Henning Brauer
* Nick [2010-11-07 05:16]: > On 11/05/10 14:29, Joe McDonagh wrote: > > "If your Sun fails" <-- that's a big IF. It's approaching a possibility > > of 0 in my experience. > > > > If performance isn't an issue and stability is your chief goal, none of > > this hardware is as stable as a Sun. >

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-07 Thread Jan Stary
> > The idea is to build an server with: WWW/Email/Firewall funcionalities, > > with> better stablity as possible. You might want to consider separating the firewall from everything else. What you want from a firewall machine can be (and probably is) very different than what you want from a "serve

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-06 Thread Nick Holland
On 11/05/10 14:29, Joe McDonagh wrote: > "If your Sun fails" <-- that's a big IF. It's approaching a possibility > of 0 in my experience. > > If performance isn't an issue and stability is your chief goal, none of > this hardware is as stable as a Sun. Good to hear your experience with sun HW i

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-06 Thread Paolo Aglialoro
Hi Felipe, I'd immediately exclude B, as apple hardware is sometimes a nightmare to jack with and, due to lack of proper fresh air inflow, their logic boards (=motherboards) die at a greater range than other vendors' ones. Go on C if you just need bare power and an easy way to find spare parts in

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-05 Thread Bryan Irvine
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Joe McDonagh wrote: > "If your Sun fails" <-- that's a big IF. It's approaching a possibility of 0 > in my experience. > > If performance isn't an issue and stability is your chief goal, none of this > hardware is as stable as a Sun. Agreed I've only seen 3 Sun h

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-05 Thread Felipe Mesquita de Oliveira
Back to tha listing =) Thank you everybody for the answers. About the prices, in Brazil we have MercadoLivre (sort of a eBay) Every kind of equipament here is more expensive because of both shipping and fees.. I've "translated" the prices to US dollar for you to know which choice will be

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-05 Thread Joe McDonagh
"If your Sun fails" <-- that's a big IF. It's approaching a possibility of 0 in my experience. If performance isn't an issue and stability is your chief goal, none of this hardware is as stable as a Sun. On 11/05/2010 01:14 PM, Nick Holland wrote: On 11/05/10 08:46, Felipe Mesquita de Olivei

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-05 Thread Jeremy Chase
> I'm not fond of MacPPC machines for the very reason many people love them: > the style. B The cute cases are a pain in the butt to deal with I second that. I had to replace the HD in my emac and I literally had to take the motherboard out to get access. -- Jeremy Chase http://twitter.com/jeremy

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-05 Thread Nick Holland
On 11/05/10 08:46, Felipe Mesquita de Oliveira wrote: Hi All, I'm long time far from OpenBSD world, but planning to come back. The plan is to buy an old machine, but, maybe try an new platform, if the investment worths... I have these options, all in the same price range: A) Sun Fire V100 Ultr

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-05 Thread Jeremy Chase
I have an emac that I just updated to 4.8 macppc, and it as expected, it works great.B I used to run OpenBSD on an old ultra5, and it also worked great. x86 might be the most common, but the other architectures work very well too. For what you are doing it looks like all these machines will be fin

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-05 Thread LeviaComm Networks
On 05-Nov-10 05:47, Felipe Mesquita de Oliveira wrote: C) Atlhon 64 X2 +5200, 2 GB RAM, 160Gb HD -> US$ 320,00 The idea is to build an server with: WWW/Email/Firewall funcionalities, with better stablity as possible. You'll get a lot more performance out of the AMD X2. Plus both i386 and A

Architeture Choose

2010-11-05 Thread Felipe Mesquita de Oliveira
Hi All, I'm long time far from OpenBSD world, but planning to come back. The plan is to buy an old machine, but, maybe try an new platform, if the investment worths... I have these options, all in the same price range: A) Sun Fire V100 UltraSPARC IIi 650 Mhz - 2x160Gb Hd - 2Gb RAM - CDROM -> US$