I've looked into v20z's, but was turned off by the cost of a
replacement power supply. A new one is roughly 200 USD. Or does the
v20z accept a standard 1U power supply?

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On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Stuart Henderson <s...@spacehopper.org> wrote:
> On 2010-11-09, Scott Stanley <amorphous.yet....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I've heard a lot of praise for Sparc gear on this thread. Do many of
>> you have much experience with Sun's amd gear?
>>
>> When using the "I'm only referring to Sparc" disclaimer, what's being
>> implied here (because I know nobody's saying that hardware fails
>> because of the CPU type, or am I wrong on that)?
>>
>> Is it that Sparc boxes are for mission critical apps, and so "let's
>> use only the best hardware"?
>>
>> Anyway, I was considering buying a Sun Fire V20z (amd) as a home
>> server, and would like to hear about any good or bad experiences with
>> Sun+AMD (googling yields only media hype and performance reviews, but
>> not real world stuff).
>
> v20z is a newisys machine not a sun machine. (someone else also oem'd
> them - maybe ibm?). the integrated disk mirroring works fine (mpi).
> it can be slightly fussy about PCI cards, mine refused to boot with
> an ami(4) connected.
>
> the management port is a separate embedded linux machine (with
> its own internal copy of conserver!) and has a dedicated nic,
> so it does work with OpenBSD on the main machine. if you want
> to use serial console iirc you'll need to disable console
> redirection in the bios and just set it up in the boot loader.
>
> disks are of course scsi and only 2, so not ideal if you want
> large volumes of storage. (make sure you get the trays, they are
> not the standard easily-obtainable sun spud brackets),
>
> they're useful machines and not bad - much better than the x2100 -
> but I'd hesitate to recommend almost any 1U rackmount box as a home
> server due to the noise levels. For home server use I think most
> people would be happier with something like an HP ML110 or one of
> the smaller Dell towers with an sas/sata raid card.
>
> OpenBSD 4.8-current (GENERIC.MP) #622: Sun Nov B 7 14:57:37 MST 2010
> B  B dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
> real mem = 4226220032 (4030MB)
> avail mem = 4099817472 (3909MB)
> mainbus0 at root
> bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.31 @ 0xefc10 (44 entries)
> bios0: vendor Phoenix Technologies Ltd. version "V1.35.5.1" date 10/22/2008
> bios0: Sun Microsystems Sun Fire V20z
> acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
> acpi0: sleep states S0 S1 S5
> acpi0: tables DSDT FACP HPET APIC SPCR SSDT SSDT SSDT SRAT
> acpi0: wakeup devices PCI0(S1) THOR(S1) USB0(S1) USB1(S1) Z000(S5) Z002(S5)
> acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
> acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
> acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee00000: PC-AT compat
> cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
> cpu0: AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 252, 2592.99 MHz
> cpu0:
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS
H,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SSE3,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW
> cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB 64b/line
16-way L2 cache
> cpu0: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully
associative
> cpu0: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully
associative
> cpu0: AMD erratum 89 present, BIOS upgrade may be required
> cpu0: apic clock running at 199MHz
> cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
> cpu1: AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 252, 2592.62 MHz
> cpu1:
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS
H,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SSE3,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW
> cpu1: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB 64b/line
16-way L2 cache
> cpu1: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully
associative
> cpu1: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully
associative
> cpu1: AMD erratum 89 present, BIOS upgrade may be required
> ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec00000, version 11, 24 pins
> ioapic1 at mainbus0: apid 3 pa 0xfd000000, version 11, 4 pins
> ioapic2 at mainbus0: apid 4 pa 0xfd001000, version 11, 4 pins
> acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 1 (THOR)
> acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 2 (Z000)
> acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 3 (Z002)
> acpicpu0 at acpi0: PSS
> acpicpu1 at acpi0: PSS
> acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB
> ipmi at mainbus0 not configured
> cpu0: Cool'n'Quiet K8 2592 MHz: speeds: 2600 2400 2200 2000 1800 1000 MHz
> pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0
> ppb0 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 "AMD 8111 PCI-PCI" rev 0x07
> pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
> ohci0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "AMD 8111 USB" rev 0x0b: apic 2 int 19 (irq
11), version 1.0, legacy support
> ohci1 at pci1 dev 0 function 1 "AMD 8111 USB" rev 0x0b: apic 2 int 19 (irq
11), version 1.0, legacy support
> vga1 at pci1 dev 5 function 0 "Trident Blade 3D" rev 0x3a
> wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
> wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
> usb0 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0
> uhub0 at usb0 "AMD OHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
> usb1 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0
> uhub1 at usb1 "AMD OHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
> amdpcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 "AMD 8111 LPC" rev 0x05
> pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 "AMD 8111 IDE" rev 0x03: DMA, channel 0
configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
> pciide0: channel 0 disabled (no drives)
> atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
> scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
> cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: <TEAC, CD-224E, 1.9A> ATAPI 5/cdrom removable
> cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
> amdpm0 at pci0 dev 7 function 3 "AMD 8111 Power" rev 0x05
> ppb1 at pci0 dev 10 function 0 "AMD 8131 PCIX" rev 0x12
> pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
> bge0 at pci2 dev 2 function 0 "Broadcom BCM5704C" rev 0x03, BCM5704 A3
(0x2003): apic 3 int 1 (irq 5), address 00:09:3d:11:f4:f3
> brgphy0 at bge0 phy 1: BCM5704 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 0
> bge1 at pci2 dev 2 function 1 "Broadcom BCM5704C" rev 0x03, BCM5704 A3
(0x2003): apic 3 int 2 (irq 3), address 00:09:3d:11:f4:f4
> brgphy1 at bge1 phy 1: BCM5704 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 0
> mpi0 at pci2 dev 4 function 0 "Symbios Logic 53c1030" rev 0x08: apic 3 int 3
(irq 11)
> scsibus1 at mpi0: 16 targets, initiator 7
> sd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: <LSILOGIC, 1030 IM IM, 1000> SCSI2 0/direct
fixed
> sd0: 277519MB, 512 bytes/sec, 568358912 sec total
> mpi0: phys disk 0 Sync at 160MHz width 16bit offset 127 QAS 0 DT 1 IU 1
> mpi0: phys disk 1 Sync at 160MHz width 16bit offset 127 QAS 0 DT 1 IU 1
> aapic0 at pci0 dev 10 function 1 "AMD 8131 PCIX IOAPIC" rev 0x01
> ppb2 at pci0 dev 11 function 0 "AMD 8131 PCIX" rev 0x12
> pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
> aapic1 at pci0 dev 11 function 1 "AMD 8131 PCIX IOAPIC" rev 0x01
> pchb0 at pci0 dev 24 function 0 "AMD AMD64 0Fh HyperTransport" rev 0x00
> pchb1 at pci0 dev 24 function 1 "AMD AMD64 0Fh Address Map" rev 0x00
> pchb2 at pci0 dev 24 function 2 "AMD AMD64 0Fh DRAM Cfg" rev 0x00
> kate0 at pci0 dev 24 function 3 "AMD AMD64 0Fh Misc Cfg" rev 0x00
> pchb3 at pci0 dev 25 function 0 "AMD AMD64 0Fh HyperTransport" rev 0x00
> pchb4 at pci0 dev 25 function 1 "AMD AMD64 0Fh Address Map" rev 0x00
> pchb5 at pci0 dev 25 function 2 "AMD AMD64 0Fh DRAM Cfg" rev 0x00
> kate1 at pci0 dev 25 function 3 "AMD AMD64 0Fh Misc Cfg" rev 0x00
> isa0 at amdpcib0
> isadma0 at isa0
> com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
> com0: console
> pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
> pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
> pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
> wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
> pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
> spkr0 at pcppi0
> wbsio0 at isa0 port 0x2e/2: W83627HF rev 0x0d
> fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2
> fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB 80 cyl, 2 head, 18 sec
> mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support
> uplcom0 at uhub0 port 1 "Prolific Technology Inc. USB-Serial Controller D"
rev 1.10/4.00 addr 2
> ucom0 at uplcom0
> vscsi0 at root
> scsibus2 at vscsi0: 256 targets
> softraid0 at root
> root on sd0a swap on sd0b dump on sd0b
>
> $ sysctl hw.sensors
> hw.sensors.mpi0.drive0=online (sd0), OK
> hw.sensors.kate0.temp2=28.00 degC
> hw.sensors.kate1.temp2=36.00 degC
>
> $ sudo bioctl sd0
> Volume B Status B  B  B  B  B  B  B  Size Device
> B mpi0 0 Online B  B  B  290999762432 sd0 B  B  RAID1
> B  B  B 0 Online B  B  B  299999999488 0:0.0 B  noencl <MAXTOR
B ATLAS10K5_300SCAJNZM B  >
> B  B  B 1 Online B  B  B  299999999488 0:1.0 B  noencl <MAXTOR
B ATLAS10K5_300SCAJNZM B  >

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