On 2010-11-09, Scott Stanley <amorphous.yet....@gmail.com> wrote: > I've heard a lot of praise for Sparc gear on this thread. Do many of > you have much experience with Sun's amd gear? > > When using the "I'm only referring to Sparc" disclaimer, what's being > implied here (because I know nobody's saying that hardware fails > because of the CPU type, or am I wrong on that)? > > Is it that Sparc boxes are for mission critical apps, and so "let's > use only the best hardware"? > > Anyway, I was considering buying a Sun Fire V20z (amd) as a home > server, and would like to hear about any good or bad experiences with > Sun+AMD (googling yields only media hype and performance reviews, but > not real world stuff).
v20z is a newisys machine not a sun machine. (someone else also oem'd them - maybe ibm?). the integrated disk mirroring works fine (mpi). it can be slightly fussy about PCI cards, mine refused to boot with an ami(4) connected. the management port is a separate embedded linux machine (with its own internal copy of conserver!) and has a dedicated nic, so it does work with OpenBSD on the main machine. if you want to use serial console iirc you'll need to disable console redirection in the bios and just set it up in the boot loader. disks are of course scsi and only 2, so not ideal if you want large volumes of storage. (make sure you get the trays, they are not the standard easily-obtainable sun spud brackets), they're useful machines and not bad - much better than the x2100 - but I'd hesitate to recommend almost any 1U rackmount box as a home server due to the noise levels. For home server use I think most people would be happier with something like an HP ML110 or one of the smaller Dell towers with an sas/sata raid card. OpenBSD 4.8-current (GENERIC.MP) #622: Sun Nov 7 14:57:37 MST 2010 dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP real mem = 4226220032 (4030MB) avail mem = 4099817472 (3909MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.31 @ 0xefc10 (44 entries) bios0: vendor Phoenix Technologies Ltd. version "V1.35.5.1" date 10/22/2008 bios0: Sun Microsystems Sun Fire V20z acpi0 at bios0: rev 2 acpi0: sleep states S0 S1 S5 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP HPET APIC SPCR SSDT SSDT SSDT SRAT acpi0: wakeup devices PCI0(S1) THOR(S1) USB0(S1) USB1(S1) Z000(S5) Z002(S5) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee00000: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 252, 2592.99 MHz cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SSE3,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache cpu0: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative cpu0: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative cpu0: AMD erratum 89 present, BIOS upgrade may be required cpu0: apic clock running at 199MHz cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor) cpu1: AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 252, 2592.62 MHz cpu1: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SSE3,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW cpu1: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache cpu1: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative cpu1: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative cpu1: AMD erratum 89 present, BIOS upgrade may be required ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec00000, version 11, 24 pins ioapic1 at mainbus0: apid 3 pa 0xfd000000, version 11, 4 pins ioapic2 at mainbus0: apid 4 pa 0xfd001000, version 11, 4 pins acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 1 (THOR) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 2 (Z000) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 3 (Z002) acpicpu0 at acpi0: PSS acpicpu1 at acpi0: PSS acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB ipmi at mainbus0 not configured cpu0: Cool'n'Quiet K8 2592 MHz: speeds: 2600 2400 2200 2000 1800 1000 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0 ppb0 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 "AMD 8111 PCI-PCI" rev 0x07 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 ohci0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "AMD 8111 USB" rev 0x0b: apic 2 int 19 (irq 11), version 1.0, legacy support ohci1 at pci1 dev 0 function 1 "AMD 8111 USB" rev 0x0b: apic 2 int 19 (irq 11), version 1.0, legacy support vga1 at pci1 dev 5 function 0 "Trident Blade 3D" rev 0x3a wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) usb0 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0 at usb0 "AMD OHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb1 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 "AMD OHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 amdpcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 "AMD 8111 LPC" rev 0x05 pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 "AMD 8111 IDE" rev 0x03: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility pciide0: channel 0 disabled (no drives) atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: <TEAC, CD-224E, 1.9A> ATAPI 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 amdpm0 at pci0 dev 7 function 3 "AMD 8111 Power" rev 0x05 ppb1 at pci0 dev 10 function 0 "AMD 8131 PCIX" rev 0x12 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 bge0 at pci2 dev 2 function 0 "Broadcom BCM5704C" rev 0x03, BCM5704 A3 (0x2003): apic 3 int 1 (irq 5), address 00:09:3d:11:f4:f3 brgphy0 at bge0 phy 1: BCM5704 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 0 bge1 at pci2 dev 2 function 1 "Broadcom BCM5704C" rev 0x03, BCM5704 A3 (0x2003): apic 3 int 2 (irq 3), address 00:09:3d:11:f4:f4 brgphy1 at bge1 phy 1: BCM5704 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 0 mpi0 at pci2 dev 4 function 0 "Symbios Logic 53c1030" rev 0x08: apic 3 int 3 (irq 11) scsibus1 at mpi0: 16 targets, initiator 7 sd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: <LSILOGIC, 1030 IM IM, 1000> SCSI2 0/direct fixed sd0: 277519MB, 512 bytes/sec, 568358912 sec total mpi0: phys disk 0 Sync at 160MHz width 16bit offset 127 QAS 0 DT 1 IU 1 mpi0: phys disk 1 Sync at 160MHz width 16bit offset 127 QAS 0 DT 1 IU 1 aapic0 at pci0 dev 10 function 1 "AMD 8131 PCIX IOAPIC" rev 0x01 ppb2 at pci0 dev 11 function 0 "AMD 8131 PCIX" rev 0x12 pci3 at ppb2 bus 3 aapic1 at pci0 dev 11 function 1 "AMD 8131 PCIX IOAPIC" rev 0x01 pchb0 at pci0 dev 24 function 0 "AMD AMD64 0Fh HyperTransport" rev 0x00 pchb1 at pci0 dev 24 function 1 "AMD AMD64 0Fh Address Map" rev 0x00 pchb2 at pci0 dev 24 function 2 "AMD AMD64 0Fh DRAM Cfg" rev 0x00 kate0 at pci0 dev 24 function 3 "AMD AMD64 0Fh Misc Cfg" rev 0x00 pchb3 at pci0 dev 25 function 0 "AMD AMD64 0Fh HyperTransport" rev 0x00 pchb4 at pci0 dev 25 function 1 "AMD AMD64 0Fh Address Map" rev 0x00 pchb5 at pci0 dev 25 function 2 "AMD AMD64 0Fh DRAM Cfg" rev 0x00 kate1 at pci0 dev 25 function 3 "AMD AMD64 0Fh Misc Cfg" rev 0x00 isa0 at amdpcib0 isadma0 at isa0 com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo com0: console pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 spkr0 at pcppi0 wbsio0 at isa0 port 0x2e/2: W83627HF rev 0x0d fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2 fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB 80 cyl, 2 head, 18 sec mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support uplcom0 at uhub0 port 1 "Prolific Technology Inc. USB-Serial Controller D" rev 1.10/4.00 addr 2 ucom0 at uplcom0 vscsi0 at root scsibus2 at vscsi0: 256 targets softraid0 at root root on sd0a swap on sd0b dump on sd0b $ sysctl hw.sensors hw.sensors.mpi0.drive0=online (sd0), OK hw.sensors.kate0.temp2=28.00 degC hw.sensors.kate1.temp2=36.00 degC $ sudo bioctl sd0 Volume Status Size Device mpi0 0 Online 290999762432 sd0 RAID1 0 Online 299999999488 0:0.0 noencl <MAXTOR ATLAS10K5_300SCAJNZM > 1 Online 299999999488 0:1.0 noencl <MAXTOR ATLAS10K5_300SCAJNZM >