Re: 5.6 arrived

2014-10-29 Thread Tony Abernethy
Harald Dunkel wrote >Hopefully you agree that the file name "snapshots/amd64/install56.iso" >is misleading? Looking at the file name I had assumed/hoped there is some >kind of upgrade path from the "install56.iso" snapshot to the 5.6 release. Who is being misled? (from an outsider) The overriding

Re: openbsdstore: enable javascript and buy something or gtfo

2014-10-06 Thread Tony Abernethy
Matti Karnaattu wrote >How I can have you to be more relaxed? With beer? Just what I need. Life support on drunk programs writ by drunk programmers. Please. You are a threat to my continued existence.

Re: unlink utility

2014-03-26 Thread Tony Abernethy
Ted Unangst wrote > Sometimes I think refusing to implement stupid standards is the only > way to fight back. Thank you. For such as this I lurk on this list, not for help with OpenBSD, but for help with everything else. Something OpenBSD does get right. Good Stuff is not made from more of Bad

Re: Security

2014-01-10 Thread Tony Abernethy
Harry Callahan: A man's GOT to know his limitations. -Original Message- From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of agrquinonez Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 10:20 AM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Security On 01/10/2014 04:44 AM, Nick Holland wrote: > O

Re: cvsync, rsync

2013-09-17 Thread Tony Abernethy
INSUFFICIENT DATA -Original Message- From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of hru...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:28 AM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: cvsync, rsync Marc Espie wrote: > > You have strings A and B, and you know only t

Re: Two primary OBSD partitions on a HDD

2013-08-25 Thread Tony Abernethy
josef.win...@email.de wrote I read fdisk(8) carefully (At least I think so), but I repeatedly failed to install two OBSDS on two primary partitions of a HDD. The idea was to realize a multiboot by toogleing the boot-flag to the primary partition of the particular OBSD system I want to boot. Howe

Re: softraid: adding volumes, CPU requirements, RAID5

2013-07-05 Thread Tony Abernethy
It works. Translation: It has worked (mostly) for me. (A few times) (Seems like Theo has a good quote about gcc) Boris Goldberg wrote: Hello guys, Thursday, July 4, 2013, 12:40:50 PM, Nick Holland wrote: >> If the softraid is so raw yet, why the old good RAIDFrame was removed >> starting the

Re: !!!!

2012-09-05 Thread Tony Abernethy
Eric Furman wrote: >A very simple addition to the FAQ would not be a problem. >WOW! This question seems to be asked a lot! >A simple addition to the FAQ does not seem to be a problem, Nick. >Yes, I know , a very stupid question asked many times. >A simplele FUCJ IR Perhaps because it is a FAQ not

Re: More sensible and consistent rc.conf.local

2012-08-29 Thread Tony Abernethy
Mikkel Bang wrote: >I'm just thinking that from a layman's perspective named_flags="" >doesn't make as much sense as named=YES if all you want to do is start >named. >The way it is right now seems more like monkey patching from the days >before OpenBSD became popular. I acknowledge the whole "it'

Re: nonexistent tables in pf.conf

2012-05-30 Thread Tony Abernethy
Jan Stary wrote: >There is a difference between an empty table and a nonexistent table, >and there is a difference between a table not existing at load time >and table being deleted. Exactly what difference in behavior is expected? This seems too much like NULL pointer exceptions in Java, where th

Re: What generates the OpenBSD page?

2011-12-10 Thread Tony Abernethy
John Tate wrote: >Don't enter a logical debate with me. I am not interested. Kinda says it all, don't your think?

Re: Narcicism?

2011-11-30 Thread Tony Abernethy
Something about gladly making fools suffer as opposed to gladly suffering fools. Actually they are a lot kinder and gentler than I would be. -Original Message- From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of John Tate Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 1:28 AM To:

Re: USB WD HDD 1.5Tb read/write for files larger than 2048mb

2011-11-22 Thread Tony Abernethy
Vitali wrote: >I had some big movie files, development directories and so on which I ... Vital information missing: File system on the USB drive Guessing: The USB Drive is FAT32 which has a size limit of 2G on individual files

Re: Burning DVDs

2011-11-14 Thread Tony Abernethy
You might try reading your own message. -Original Message- From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of John Tate Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 9:19 AM To: Fubar Cc: Richard Toohey; misc Subject: Re: Burning DVDs I have dvd+rw tools and cdrecord still gives

Re: Burning DVDs

2011-11-14 Thread Tony Abernethy
Out of curiosity, WHY should any make install in ports actually DO anything? Seems like the object of ports is to make packages and packages are installed by pkg_add. If you want to be something, say a packager, it helps if you have at least a slight clue what it is all about. -Original Messag

Re: Apache Killer - Does it affect OpenBSD's patched version of Apache?

2011-08-30 Thread Tony Abernethy
frantisek holop wrote: >but for me it's really time to move on. Bye.

Re: I don't get where the load comes from

2011-05-30 Thread Tony Abernethy
Joel Carnat wrote: >But one thing that didn't convinced me is that, if I shutdown apmd and >configure hw.setperf=100, the load drops down to 0.30-0.20. >I don't get how "A high load is just that: high. It means you have a lot >of processes that sometimes run." can show load variation depending on

Re: I don't get where the load comes from

2011-05-30 Thread Tony Abernethy
Joel Carnat wrote >well, compared to my previous box, running NetBSD/xen, the same services >and showing about 0.3-0.6 of load ; I thought a load of 1.21 was quite much. Different systems will agree on the spelling of the word load. That is about as much agreement as you can expect. Does the 0.3-0

Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-08 Thread Tony Abernethy
Methinks this project is somehow about good code, not good moods. > -Original Message- > From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf > Of Mihai Popescu > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:19 AM > To: misc > Subject: Re: is SHA256 file used or not ? > > Hi Hennin

Re: Dynamic web hosting and OpenBSD

2010-10-31 Thread Tony Abernethy
Marcos Laufer wrote > > Is this a prank message? > starting my very own Obviously I take security seriously, and therefore will be using OpenBSD exclusively. One thing is bothering me though. I hope you friendly folks would help me. ---to quote a rabbit "He don't know me do he?

Re: nfsv4?

2010-10-29 Thread Tony Abernethy
Benny LC6fgren wrote: > Oh come on, surely you can't fail to realize that there are actually > benefits to having all your data on one place, always? Especially if > you > have an environment where you might need to access it from several > different platforms. > > Not only in terms of user

Re: i386 and amd64 snapshots - kernel SHA256 mismatch

2010-10-16 Thread Tony Abernethy
Frank Bax wrote: > > Marco Peereboom wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 01:08:25AM +, JC Choisy wrote: > >> That being out of the way, you got me wondering what good is > >> any integrity check which failure is OK. > > > > It is only meant to help uptight people having some sort of false > sens

Re: undeadly article

2010-08-18 Thread Tony Abernethy
Personally, I liked the article. Small change in perspective changes an ordeal into an adventure. Jacob Meuser wrote: > On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 04:28:57PM +0300, Mihai Popescu B.S. wrote: > > Hello, > > > > My post was not intended as a direct hit for the article. I told my > > opinion to misc@ be

Re: mount ffs as msdos, system hangs

2010-07-26 Thread Tony Abernethy
frantisek holop wrote: > my "whining", is a comparison of experiences with others, > questions if someone can reproduce a particular problem > i am having, whether it is considered a problem at all, > and so on. a practice i thought about as the first step > of bug reporting and as such a perfectl

Re: mount ffs as msdos, system hangs

2010-07-25 Thread Tony Abernethy
frantisek holop wrote: > to know the road ahead, ask those coming back. You mean the ones who like it so much they travel it twice?

Re: mount ffs as msdos, system hangs

2010-07-25 Thread Tony Abernethy
frantisek holop wrote: > the borderline between the useful and useless error checking > is sometimes a bit fuzzy i think. Not THAT fuzzy. Foreign file systems NEVER get prime attention. When you do stupid things the results are rather predictable and you compound your error by trying to blame eve

Re: Hardware Spec Search Engine?

2010-07-17 Thread Tony Abernethy
Christian Weisgerber wrote: > > Somewhat embarrassingly, OpenBSD has never had a working Firewire > implementation. > As I understand it, only the malware writers are embarrassed. You don't need a back door when the front door is missing. Any time all of system memory is open to Read/Write access b

Re: PTY allocation error

2010-07-12 Thread Tony Abernethy
Nick Holland wrote: > > On 07/12/10 03:11, czark...@gmail.com wrote: > ... > > This is not about Theo personally, it's about everyone in this > thread. > > > > Peter did't pretend to get a custommer support, neither he said > someone is > > obliged to answer his question. He simply wanted someone f

Re: Silent boot?

2010-07-05 Thread Tony Abernethy
Eric S Pulley wrote: ... and I hate systems that hide that information from me, but that's just me. Nope. Not just you. A system that hides stuff has to be an order of magnitude more correct just to break even.

Re: 1 out of 3 hunks failed--saving rejects to kerberosV/src/lib/krb5/crypto.c.rej

2010-06-21 Thread Tony Abernethy
Ingo Schwarze wrote: > > Hi Tony, > > Tony Berth wrote on Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 08:11:31PM +0200: > > > but FAQ5 is about 'Building the System from Source' which I don't > want! > > I just want to patch an existing system! > > http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq10.html#Patches > > Note that this one does

Re: Installer bug? - Upgrade 4.6 to 4.7 failed to upgrade base47, on i386 and amd64

2010-06-05 Thread Tony Abernethy
Jacob Meuser wrote: we have users that say they follow the install and upgrade guides to the letter and they get fucked. there is a problem. they don't even know /usr/obj exists. What they say. What they did. Two different things. There's lots of things they do not know about. I fail to un

Re: Installer bug? - Upgrade 4.6 to 4.7 failed to upgrade base47, on i386 and amd64

2010-06-05 Thread Tony Abernethy
Jacob Meuser wrote: On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 05:13:19AM -0400, Tony Abernethy wrote: > All I need to break any automated system you devise is to have some programs that I compile myself and use the system directories to hold the sources etc. > then you are on your own, not someone who is

Re: Installer bug? - Upgrade 4.6 to 4.7 failed to upgrade base47, on i386 and amd64

2010-06-05 Thread Tony Abernethy
Jacob Meuser wrote: On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 01:49:46AM -0400, Tony Abernethy wrote: > Jacob Meuser wrote: > ... > > > On 5/06/2010, at 7:31 AM, Nick Holland wrote: > a patch to the upgrade guide would be wrong. > The problem is the patching process (a special case of the use

Re: Installer bug? - Upgrade 4.6 to 4.7 failed to upgrade base47, on i386 and amd64

2010-06-04 Thread Tony Abernethy
IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR ARE DOING, INSTALL A NEW SNAPSHOT Theo de Raadt wrote: > > Miod, Dale, Kurt, Kettenis and I am quite often the first people to > deal with bumping systems forward over bumps. Some bumps are so > difficult that after they are done the rest of us jump over them using > s

Re: Installer bug? - Upgrade 4.6 to 4.7 failed to upgrade base47, on i386 and amd64

2010-06-04 Thread Tony Abernethy
Jacob Meuser wrote: ... > > On 5/06/2010, at 7:31 AM, Nick Holland wrote: a patch to the upgrade guide would be wrong. The problem is the patching process (a special case of the userland build process) assumes a clean obj dir. This has nothing to do with upgrades. If you try to rebuild the same u

Re: Installer bug? - Upgrade 4.6 to 4.7 failed to upgrade base47, on i386 and amd64

2010-06-04 Thread Tony Abernethy
patrick keshishian wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Jacob Meuser > wrote: > > I'm still curious how anything left in /usr/obj can be anything > > but a possible problem after updating system binaries and sources > > to a new release. especially for people who are just "following > > the

Re: Installer bug? - Upgrade 4.6 to 4.7 failed to upgrade base47, on i386 and amd64

2010-06-04 Thread Tony Abernethy
Might be better to read and comprehend ``man patch'' before assuming limitations on the scope of patch's reach. > -Original Message- > From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf > Of Uwe Dippel > Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 11:23 AM > To: misc@openbsd.org > Subj

Re: Installer bug? - Upgrade 4.6 to 4.7 failed to upgrade base47, on i386 and amd64

2010-06-03 Thread Tony Abernethy
Uwe Dippel wrote: > drill it down to some 70 files being of the previous > version. > It might be tiring, but what evidence do you want? The error message(s) you are suppressing (or maybe didn't see) About the only way you can get some files but not all files from a tarball is some fatal error i

Re: traffic management

2010-06-01 Thread Tony Abernethy
Why? (There, I said it.) -Original Message- From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of irix Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 7:38 PM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: traffic management Hello Misc, But at least you can say why? >no kidding. As we've told "ir

Re: State of multiprocessing and multithreading in OpenBSD

2010-05-06 Thread Tony Abernethy
Stas Miasnikou wrote: > Marco Peereboom wrote: > > Wouldn't it be adorable if people learned to program FSMs instead of > > java in those fancy universities? > > Seconded. > Do you seriously expect programmers to learn to program?

Re: State of multiprocessing and multithreading in OpenBSD

2010-05-05 Thread Tony Abernethy
Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > pe...@bsdly.net (Peter N. M. Hansteen) writes: > > > I would think that would be a fair question to ask the person who > told > > you PF is garbage because it is multithreaded: > > eh, "because it is *not* multithreaded:" > Now watch when application programmers use mu

Re: State of multiprocessing and multithreading in OpenBSD

2010-05-05 Thread Tony Abernethy
Lars Nooden wrote: > > On Wed, 5 May 2010, Geoff wrote: > > There's a paper from Berkeley showing how a threaded program can > > never be fully debugged and should be presumed to be broken, > > probably fatally broken. > > Geoff, can you post the URL or any details that might help finding and > ret

Re: unreferenced files from MySQL.

2010-04-25 Thread Tony Abernethy
Andreas Gerdd wrote: > > Hello. > I noticed some unreferenced files from MySQL in my daily output mail; > However, i don't have anything in /tmp or /var/tmp to check/fix the > problem with fsck. > > Does this mean i lost some data from the database(s)? > > How may i fix or remove the reported bad f

Re: Generic Discuss about CPU resource scheduling

2010-04-18 Thread Tony Abernethy
Aaron Lewis wrote: > Yeah , looping time depends the complexity of that loop , i've learned > that , > We use a O(n) to present such complexity of a program. > Counterexample: Simple solution to 9 body problem Any much quicker solution to same problem. Do you really have an O(n) solution to a sort

Re: Generic Discuss about CPU resource scheduling

2010-04-18 Thread Tony Abernethy
Otto Moerbeek wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 09:35:42PM +0800, Aaron Lewis wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > Hi, > > I'm reading Operating System Concepts (7th Edition) , Written by > > Abraham , Peter & Greg. > > > > In chapter 5.3 , it talks ab

Re: OpenBSD culture?

2010-04-16 Thread Tony Abernethy
Donald Allen wrote: > So you believe civility and correctness are mutually exclusive? > Interesting. > Hardly, but if I am given a choice, I will take correctness. You seem to be under the impression that either correctness is irrelevant or that somehow civility implies correctness. As for mutual

Re: OpenBSD culture?

2010-04-16 Thread Tony Abernethy
Donald Allen wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 4:16 AM, Artur Grabowski > wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Donald Allen > wrote: > > > >> Thanks for the compliment, but I'm a *lot* older than nine. > > > > Yet you still believe that it's ok for guests to tell the hosts how > to > > b

Re: OpenBSD culture?

2010-04-15 Thread Tony Abernethy
VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO wrote: > > Please do not take my mesages out of context. Removing sentences, and > twisting what I said can be very convenient to put me in the wrong > whithout factual evidence. > I do not please. Since no message can be completely within context, that implies that your ar

Re: OpenBSD culture?

2010-04-15 Thread Tony Abernethy
Marco Peereboom wrote: > See I told you logic wouldn't work for you. > > Since _my_ definition of freedom for software is different, I > > reach different conclusions. Right. It didn't.

Re: OpenBSD culture?

2010-04-15 Thread Tony Abernethy
VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO wrote: > > Logic works the same for everyone, since it's an abstract > field, but apparently you did not study it. It weems that you did not learn it.

Re: OpenBSD culture?

2010-04-14 Thread Tony Abernethy
Zachary Uram wrote: > > Sorry a lot of people got upset by my message. I will try to learn > OpenBSD on my own since that is the way to do it here. > That is the way to learn most anything that actually matters. I don't think that people were so much upset as they prefer to gladly make foo

Re: OpenBSD culture?

2010-04-14 Thread Tony Abernethy
I am POSITIVE you are a troll. > -Original Message- > From: Zachary Uram [mailto:net...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 7:58 PM > To: Tony Abernethy > Cc: Bret S. Lambert; misc@openbsd.org > Subject: Re: OpenBSD culture? > > As does yours. Tr

Re: OpenBSD culture?

2010-04-14 Thread Tony Abernethy
Zachary Uram wrote: > > You get lost. You seem to think the project exists as an end unto > itself. Develop the most wonderful kernel and userspace in the world > but if no one uses it what is the point? Since your attitude to new > users is "get lost" that reflects very poorly on yourself an

Re: OpenBSD culture?

2010-04-14 Thread Tony Abernethy
Zachary Uram wrote: > > Your attitude proves my point. I was not trolling. Grow up! > Another of the type of statement guaranteed to be false.

Re: ZFS in OpenBSD

2010-03-22 Thread Tony Abernethy
Dan Naumov wrote: > ... I can only suggest therapy, it works > for millions of people. That explains the state of Information Technology. I'll take the code, snide remarks and all. Thanks.

Re: softdeps enabled = poor "concurrent" access?

2010-02-24 Thread Tony Abernethy
Noah McNallie wrote: > please read latest post Doesn't get any lazier than that.

Re: Open Source hardware (Re: can't get vesa @ 1280x800 or nv)

2009-12-05 Thread Tony Abernethy
rhubbell wrote: > Another sensitive type. Guess there are always a few on every list. As distinguished from insensitive twerps like yourself.

Re: Partitioning an external USB drive through OpenBSD -- disklabel

2009-10-30 Thread Tony Abernethy
Sorry for top-posting, but please: Disk sectors start with 1 (unless you are reformatting the entire track and something like Write Record zero still exists) On DOS-FORMATTED disks, the initial sector is at cylinder 0, head 0, sector 1, and contains within the bootstrap loader what DOS and Windows

Re: 4.6 will be released on October 1st?

2009-08-18 Thread Tony Abernethy
Nice Daemon wrote: [nothing of interest] [nothing but bad gas] about 23 times worse than CO2. Amazing how the nicknames are what one should be as opposed to what one is. There are a few exceptions, but not this idiot who cannot tell the difference between a cup holder and a disk drive.

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-06 Thread Tony Abernethy
> >> I've managed by myself so far That's the wierdest idea of "by myself" I've ever seen. Go back to your cup holder.

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Tony Abernethy
Nick Bender wrote: > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:08 PM, PJ wrote: > > Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > >> Once you've cleared that hurdle, It would help a lot with > more details > >> about the hardware, what image file you are using and where it came > >> from (ie is it the i386 one, the amd64 one, off

Re: OpenBSD 4.5 pf port forwarding

2009-07-07 Thread Tony Abernethy
Anathae Townsend wrote: > > I am currently trying to open up a few ports on my firewall > to allow an > internal > windows home server to provide services to the outside world. > > My OpenBSD version is OpenBSD 4.5-current (GENERIC) #6: Sat > May 16 21:50:41 > MDT 2009 > > I am trying to use t

Re: Floating disk geometry

2009-06-30 Thread Tony Abernethy
Sergey Yudin wrote: > > Please can someone tell why disk geometry changed after install > > in installation time on empty sd0: > > Disk: sd0 geometry: 78753/2/911 [143638992 Sectors] I don't know what that is, or where it came from, but I don't think any 80386-type pc-BIOS could handle tha

Re: Can't boot scsi drive from floppy boot prompt?

2009-06-11 Thread Tony Abernethy
Eric d'Alibut > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Kenneth R > Westerback wrote: > > > Try floppyB or bsd.rd or cdrom. You are probably missing the driver > > for your scsi card. Kinda hard to tell since you have provided no > > information. > > I am booting with teh same floppy I used to do the

Re: newfs_msdos alters disklabel?

2009-06-08 Thread Tony Abernethy
Jan Stary wrote: > > This is 4.5 trying to create a FAT partition > on an external (USB) 80G disk. > > > Also, why does disklabel say '16 partitions'? > > Thanks > > Jan fdisk plays with DOS (windows) partitions. There are 4 of them. disklabel plays with OpenBSD partition

Re: Raid controller?

2009-05-18 Thread Tony Abernethy
Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote: > On Fri, 15 May 2009 20:40:44 -0600 (MDT) > Theo de Raadt wrote: > > > > > If any of the people we talked to at 3ware weren't such > > LYING BAGS OF HYPOCRITICAL SHIT we'd support their hardware > > Hard words, Theo. Do you think anyone you talked to > could a

Re: removing a pesky file

2009-05-14 Thread Tony Abernethy
Ryan Flannery wrote: > On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Tony Abernethy > wrote: > > Ryan Flannery wrote: > >> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Jordi Beltran Creix > >> wrote: > >> > rm `ls | grep E` would delete that file leaving others alone. > &

Re: removing a pesky file

2009-05-14 Thread Tony Abernethy
Ryan Flannery wrote: > On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Jordi Beltran Creix > wrote: > > rm `ls | grep E` would delete that file leaving others alone. > > > > Regards, > > > > Just for the list... > I had tried that incantation, and others involving grep, and > they all failed. > > Output (I just

Re: can not use USB drive with recent snapshot

2009-05-14 Thread Tony Abernethy
Robert wrote: > On Thu, 14 May 2009 18:01:25 -0500 > "Tony Abernethy" wrote: > > > Otto Moerbeek wrote > > > > > > Thanks for the report, but please also provide the output > of fdisk. > > > We are working on a more strict mbr validation

Re: can not use USB drive with recent snapshot

2009-05-14 Thread Tony Abernethy
Otto Moerbeek wrote > > Thanks for the report, but please also provide the output of fdisk. > We are working on a more strict mbr validation, but this is all quite > tricky and will take some iterations to get right. > This thing seems to be aimed at reading my mind. Not what is IN my mind, but

Re: problems setting up a firewall with nat

2009-05-09 Thread Tony Abernethy
Dorian B|ttner wrote: > Jean-Frangois SIMON schrieb: > > Hello James, > > If no output to parse means no errors, and verbose mode > just repeat all the > > lines of the pf.conf, then yes it parses. > > > > pflog0 keeps silent, nothing in here while trying to > connect from the subnet > > to the int

Re: HD 'Analysis'

2009-05-07 Thread Tony Abernethy
Marco Peereboom wrote: > >> >> On Monday 04 May 2009 17:56:43 L. V. Lammert wrote: > >> >> > What is the best way to do a surface analysis on a disk? > > >> 2009/5/5 Tony Abernethy : > >> > There is, in the e2fsprogs package, something ca

Re: HD 'Analysis'

2009-05-04 Thread Tony Abernethy
STeve Andre' wrote: > On Monday 04 May 2009 17:56:43 L. V. Lammert wrote: > > Been trying to build a replacement HD for a system, .. and it seems > > impossible to verify whether a disk is bad or not (having > wasted some hours > > rsync'ing data only to have the HD lock up the system when > doin

Re: Plea for HELP on dual boot MAC/OpenBSD disaster with refit that turn really bad!

2009-05-01 Thread Tony Abernethy
Daniel Ouellet wrote: > Tony Abernethy wrote: > >> disklabel, of fdisk > >> to look only, looks like there is only one partition now. > > Dunno if that is looking at MBR in memory or MBR on disk > > If MBR on disk is still the same, should be OK after boot. >

Re: Plea for HELP on dual boot MAC/OpenBSD disaster with refit that turn really bad!

2009-05-01 Thread Tony Abernethy
Daniel Ouellet wrote: > > Hi, > > Now sure if anyone could give me a hint or pointer, but I very much > would appreciated ANY help if there is actually something > possible to do. > > My Son did a mistake on his laptop tonight in trying to upgrade his > OpenBSD partition to 4.5 and he is pret

Re: Transparent firewall (bridge) with DMZ + LAN

2009-04-28 Thread Tony Abernethy
Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote: > > > Isn't this how humans learn? By making mistakes and learning > from them? :) > Nah not really. They watch their brother or sister get burned by a hot stove and decide maybe better not to find out for themselves. They watch one of their playmates drown or get r

Re: Transparent firewall (bridge) with DMZ + LAN

2009-04-28 Thread Tony Abernethy
Now it makes sense. Claudio Jeker wrote: > but it is sitting in the middle of your network passing > packets. I couldn't sleep with such a system in my core. > It is also a lot easier to bypass unnoticed a bridging FW/IDS > then a box > that does actual routing. THAT's why it is called a TRANSP

Re: Transparent firewall (bridge) with DMZ + LAN

2009-04-27 Thread Tony Abernethy
openbsd misc wrote: > > > You can either read the code or listen to somebody who has. I don't > > know you either, but I know Henning and I know the bridge code, and > > the short version is he's right. > > > > > Has anyone noticed > > That if you substitute BIble for code , in the section quot

Re: Transparent firewall (bridge) with DMZ + LAN

2009-04-26 Thread Tony Abernethy
bofh wrote: > ... When you're > told there's a better way to do things, pay attention, instead of > telling the experts here (and I'm talking about the openbsd developers > in this thread - not me, I'm in management now, no brain cells left) ... old age is my excuse ... but it pays to pay attentiio

Re: Question about security

2009-04-26 Thread Tony Abernethy
FRLinux wrote: > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Jean-Francois > wrote: > > This is just to have the taste of how good is the actual > achievement of > > security in openbsd. > > Well, reading from the archives, that should give you a > fairly good taste. > > > Sorry please tell me how to p

Re: svnd is incredible slow... somebody else notice that?

2009-04-26 Thread Tony Abernethy
Sebastian Rother wrote: > > ...but I somehow think I know how to use vnconfig. and it takes too long. way too long. Methinks there's something wrong with that logic. Does the excess time have something to do with bugs in pf? If so what? If not, where is the relevance? Seems like you are being ta

Re: svnd is incredible slow... somebody else notice that?

2009-04-26 Thread Tony Abernethy
26 Apr 2009 14:38:12 -0500 > "Tony Abernethy" wrote: > > > Sebastian Rother wrote: > > > A 16GB backup of /home takes more then 10 hrs to restore. > > > It's like ataching the device, rsync -av SOURCE:/FOO . and > > > wait for 10+ > > &g

Re: svnd is incredible slow... somebody else notice that?

2009-04-26 Thread Tony Abernethy
Sebastian Rother wrote: > A 16GB backup of /home takes more then 10 hrs to restore. > It's like ataching the device, rsync -av SOURCE:/FOO . and > wait for 10+ > hours. That sounds like you are doing something wrong. And then you come whining here because you do not know how to write to a disk? Th

Re: svnd is incredible slow... somebody else notice that?

2009-04-26 Thread Tony Abernethy
sebastian.rot...@jpberlin.de wrote: > > Bonnie is retarded and proves nothing one way or another. > Typical KY > > for masturbation. > > Well then simply tell me how to test/benchmark it? > You could test the svnd on your own BTW because I doubt it's > HW related... > > I asked you serval time

Re: Slow SATA write speeds with SMB

2009-04-20 Thread Tony Abernethy
frantisek holop wrote: > hmm, on Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 05:19:05PM -0500, Tony Abernethy > said that > > frantisek holop wrote: > > > all hw is unrealible to some degree, > > ... and all degrees of unreliability are equivalent? > > Methinks some people like stuff

Re: Slow SATA write speeds with SMB

2009-04-20 Thread Tony Abernethy
frantisek holop wrote: > all hw is unrealible to some degree, ... and all degrees of unreliability are equivalent? Methinks some people like stuff that is LESS unreliable. Even going so far as to make an OS that is LESS unreliable.

Re: Low power OpenBSD machine

2009-04-17 Thread Tony Abernethy
Aaron Stellman wrote: > On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 08:19:11AM +0200, Markus Hennecke wrote: > > Aaron Stellman schrieb: > >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 07:54:11AM +0200, Markus Hennecke wrote: > >>> Generalization is always false. > >>> I killed a 1GB SanDisk CF Card because of excessive logging of > >>

Re: Low power OpenBSD machine

2009-04-16 Thread Tony Abernethy
Markus Hennecke wrote: > Marco Peereboom schrieb: > > I work with people that run io tools against flash parts. > I still have > > to see it fail too. Your puny little firewall will never > write more to > > it than a month long stress test. This write fatigue > argument is very > > silly. >

Re: hello whiners and crybabies

2009-04-03 Thread Tony Abernethy
Marco Peereboom wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 07:04:28PM +0200, RedShift wrote: > > Just because they (the openbsd team) give it away for free, > people aren't allowed to voice their opinions on it? OpenBSD > has its shortcomings, you cannot deny that, and people will > always complain abo

Re: Unfortunate dot was ... missing

2009-02-24 Thread Tony Abernethy
Jason Dixon wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 07:43:18PM +0100, Jean-Francois wrote: > > All, > > > > I just forget the dot !! in the 'rm -r ./dev' so I have no > /dev anymore > > on my server box. > > One can tell me if this is possible to backup the system > without freshh > > install ? > >

Re: bash for root?

2008-12-02 Thread Tony Abernethy
Juan Miscaro wrote: > > I turn off those annoying checks and I use the same password. > Works great. > > /juan > ... until it doesn't.

Re: DHCP question

2008-07-23 Thread Tony Abernethy
Almir Karic wrote" >On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 04:33:27PM +0900, Hari wrote: >> Hello. I just finished installing OpenBSD 4.3. The dhcp setup during >> network configuration was fine, meaning, IP address was properly >> assigned. I went ahead with the default values provided. However, >> after rebooti

Re: DHCP question

2008-07-23 Thread Tony Abernethy
Hari wrote: >On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Tomas Bodzar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Eh,I missed something.Look at /etc/hosts and $hostname >> Why is localhost.WORKGROUP localhost in /etc/hosts and >> mercury.my.domain in $hostname > >I have long suspected that this is the problem. I am a novi

Re: DHCP question

2008-07-23 Thread Tony Abernethy
Hari wrote: >Hello. I just finished installing OpenBSD 4.3. The dhcp setup during >network configuration was fine, meaning, IP address was properly >assigned. I went ahead with the default values provided. However, >after rebooting post installation, I am getting the following messages >that seems

Re: DHCP question

2008-07-23 Thread Tony Abernethy
Hari wrote: >On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:36 PM, Tony Abernethy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Silly question, but WHAT IP is actually assigned during install? >> I think something like ifconfig before the halt might work >> I assume you are installing from CD, not fro

Re: tcpdump -X

2008-07-17 Thread Tony Abernethy
GVG GVG wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:04 AM, J.C. Roberts > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > On Tuesday 15 July 2008, GVG GVG wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:54 PM, David Hill > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 03:42:58PM +0200, GVG GVG wrote: > > > > Use

Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2

2008-07-16 Thread Tony Abernethy
Ted Unangst wrote: >If a command line tool like git has a 'GUI Helper', then that package is >broken (which, I believe, is the case in this situation). The parallel argument is that if any GUI tool has a command line helper function, then that package is broken. (Microsoft Windows still has a co

Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2

2008-07-16 Thread Tony Abernethy
MY APOLOGIES --- getting cross-eyed in my old age. >On 7/16/08, Tony Abernethy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ted Unangst wrote: >> >> >> >If a command line tool like git has a 'GUI Helper', then that package is >> >broken (which, I belie

Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2

2008-07-15 Thread Tony Abernethy
Ted Unangst wrote: > > On 7/15/08, L. V. Lammert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, I'm sending an email to misc when a package depends on > X that should > > **NOT** depend on X. That's what's broken, obviously, if > you're saying I > > should be installing X on a production server. NOT. > >

Re: Wayyyyyy OT: WAS: RE: small, random essay on performance tuning, was: "remove...."

2008-06-12 Thread Tony Abernethy
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 12:56:55PM +, Miod Vallat wrote: > > > God is real, unless declared integer. > > > > > > > > > I thought about this for a while. Given that the Spirit > of God was upon the > > > waters in Genesis 1, I think it's likely that God is float. >

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