Re: Future of X.org?

2019-06-30 Thread Roderick
On Mon, 1 Jul 2019, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado wrote: Xorg is the most insecure software in base. Why? Because it has bugs? Or because, in oppossite to wayland, it can listen to outside connections if configured so (by default it does not)? If you only care about the remote apps, with

Re: Future of X.org?

2019-06-30 Thread chohag
Roderick writes: > > > On Sun, 30 Jun 2019, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado wrote: > > > You can run (local or remote) X11 applications inside of a Wayland > > compositor. > > The following contradicts your above assertion: > > https://wayland.freedesktop.org/faq.html#heading_toc_j_8 Wayland. The

Re: Future of X.org?

2019-06-30 Thread Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado
On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 09:09:08PM +, Roderick wrote: > > On Sun, 30 Jun 2019, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado wrote: > > > Nope, you misunderstood the text. > > No. It is *you* that do not understand what X11 is and want it death. > A very destructive attitude. You're the only one with a de

Re: Future of X.org?

2019-06-30 Thread Leonid Bobrov
I make a mistake by writting this mail, but: On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 09:09:08PM +, Roderick wrote: > > On Sun, 30 Jun 2019, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado wrote: > > > Nope, you misunderstood the text. > > No. It is *you* that do not understand what X11 is and want it death. > A very destru

Re: Future of X.org?

2019-06-30 Thread Roderick
On Sun, 30 Jun 2019, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado wrote: Nope, you misunderstood the text. No. It is *you* that do not understand what X11 is and want it death. A very destructive attitude. "This doesn't mean that remote rendering won't be possible with Wayland, it just means that you wi

Re: Future of X.org?

2019-06-30 Thread Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado
On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 03:59:55PM +, Roderick wrote: > > > On Fri, 28 Jun 2019, gwes wrote: > > > I regularly run programs on one machine connected to a display > > on another machine. AFAIK, the current state of Wayland makes > > that difficult. I confess to not following it closely. > >

6.5 pkg_add "Fatal error: Can't write session into tmp directory"

2019-06-30 Thread Jonathan Thornburg
I have 6.5/i386 installed on a PC Engines alix board (hostname 'sodium'), acting as a home firewall and router. I'd like to install some packages the firewall it to make system adminstration easier. So... I downloaded the appropriate 6./i386 packages from a nearby OpenBSD mirror, ssh-ed them to /

Re: man bgpd.conf + question

2019-06-30 Thread Mik J
Thank you for your answer Claudio Le samedi 29 juin 2019 à 19:56:41 UTC+2, Claudio Jeker a écrit : On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 10:52:01PM +, Mik J wrote: > Hello, > I have a syntax error with  announce none > group "spam-bgp" { >     remote-as   $spamASN >     multihop 64 >   

Re: Future of X.org?

2019-06-30 Thread Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado
On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 06:55:42PM +, Roderick wrote: > > > On Sun, 30 Jun 2019, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado wrote: > > > You can run (local or remote) X11 applications inside of a Wayland > > compositor. > > The following contradicts your above assertion: > > https://wayland.freedeskto

Re: Future of X.org?

2019-06-30 Thread Roderick
On Sun, 30 Jun 2019, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado wrote: You can run (local or remote) X11 applications inside of a Wayland compositor. The following contradicts your above assertion: https://wayland.freedesktop.org/faq.html#heading_toc_j_8 Rod.

L2TP/IPSec PSK with Android -- INVALID_ID_INFORMATION

2019-06-30 Thread Lévai , Dániel
Hi all! I know (saw) this has come up numerous times, and someone has been successful, others weren't. I thought I'd try this out myself, and not surprisingly it wasn't successful :) I've been using these howtos [1] -- I know these can be outdated and/or simply wrong, I just wanted to get the g

Re: cd command, chdir syscall, shell behavour

2019-06-30 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Edgar, Edgar Pettijohn wrote on Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 07:48:35PM -0500: > Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> If you want to search for a manual page, use man(1). >> If you want to search for packages, use pkglocate(1). > I don't think this would be needed on openbsd as the default > install has everythin

Re: cd command, chdir syscall, shell behavour

2019-06-30 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Ian, ropers wrote on Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 02:18:56PM +0200: > In bash, `help` is a shell builtin and does do something, though IMO, > the something that it does isn't initially as helpful as OpenBSD's > help(1), especially to newbies. [1] Yes. When a user types "help", it is unlikely they ar

Re: Future of X.org?

2019-06-30 Thread Roderick
On Fri, 28 Jun 2019, gwes wrote: I regularly run programs on one machine connected to a display on another machine. AFAIK, the current state of Wayland makes that difficult. I confess to not following it closely. I also do it, and I also have no much idea of what is wayland. But I have the

Re: cd command, chdir syscall, shell behavour

2019-06-30 Thread ropers
Oops, I just mistakenly attributed Ingo's earlier reply to Edgar. Apologies to both, and thanks very much for the help. Ian On 30/06/2019, ropers wrote: > On 30/06/2019, Edgar Pettijohn wrote: Then you need to say (...snip; see earlier email...) > > Thank you. That contained several useful

Re: cd command, chdir syscall, shell behavour

2019-06-30 Thread ropers
On 30/06/2019, Edgar Pettijohn wrote: >>> Then you need to say (...snip; see earlier email...) Thank you. That contained several useful hints I hadn't even figured out I could look for there, although this too seems obvious in retrospect. Maybe I'm not thinking about these things carefully enough