I make a mistake by writting this mail, but: On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 09:09:08PM +0000, Roderick wrote: > > On Sun, 30 Jun 2019, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado wrote: > > > Nope, you misunderstood the text. > > No. It is *you* that do not understand what X11 is and want it death. > A very destructive attitude. >
No, it's your attitude is destructive. > > "This doesn't mean that remote rendering won't be possible with Wayland, > > it just means that you will have to put a remote rendering server on top > > of Wayland. One such server could be the X.org server". > > You quote the text and are unable to get the conclusion: having > wayland, if you need X11, then you must implement an X11 server. > > Is it not clear from the text that for upgrading wayland to X11, > you must implement X11, and the autor avoided it for keeping it simple? > > Is it not clear that wayland is *never* a substitute of X11? > > You confuse X11 with a graphical display, such the old ones of > Amiga or MacOS. It was always possible to have it in unix. But > that was never the purpose of X11. The graphic display is only > a byproduct of X11. > > I remember in the 1990s that it was possible to run a comercial > X11 in Macs: They had their graphical display, but that was neither X11 > nor a substituite of it. But you are trying to convince us that > wayland is a substitute of X11, that X11 must die. > > And Xorg / xenocara is not bloat: it runs on meager X11 terminals. > The bloat will come with wayland. > > And X11 imposes an standard. Programs done as X11 clients may run in > any OS display in other. Wayland will bring chaos. > > Rodrigo > You are a liar, the Xenocara is a bloat. X11 is a bloat and its implementation called X.org is a greater bloat. Mesa is a bloat, it's a shit fat C++ library. X Window System is just a shit windowing system while Wayland is a simple, fast and secure display server protocol. (Well, almost simple, this XML dependance is overkill.) You people protecting X make me doubt that OpenBSD aims security, I am agree with Linus Torvalds who called us monkeys.
