Re: need advice, network monitor isues on LAN devices..

2012-06-19 Thread Hendrik Meyburgh
cacti with snmp works very well. On 19 Jun 2012, at 10:12 PM, Ton Muller wrote: > normaly i dont write much. > but this time i am stuck with nasty isue. > i want to count send/received packets from each network device i have in > my lan. > and put them in MRTG as nice graps. > however, i cant fin

carppeer and multiple vhid's

2012-06-19 Thread Eric K. Miller
I haven't found any documentation on what is transmitted between peers when using carp and the carppeer parameter. I'm trying to find whether a single IP address pair for the peers can be used for multiple vhids. I'm planning to use a different interface for the carp advertisements than the int

Re: Keeping -Stable updated

2012-06-19 Thread thunderlight1
HI! Thank you for your quick answer. Isn't the patch- the same branch as stable-branch, which is the one I'm using for my production system? According to the FAQ section 5 (http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html ) it says: " *-Stable* is based on *-release*, and is a branch from the main developmen

Re: Following -current through a semi-automatic process: a strategy for encouraging user involvement?

2012-06-19 Thread Andres Perera
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 1:40 AM, Andres Perera wrote: > sorry, but i never sold nm as the sole step granting immunity. i > explicitly presented it as an example. nevertheless, the full list of > things i do do not cover all of possible changes you pointed out. i > constructed it in a way that also

Re: Following -current through a semi-automatic process: a strategy for encouraging user involvement?

2012-06-19 Thread Andres Perera
sorry, but i never sold nm as the sole step granting immunity. i explicitly presented it as an example. nevertheless, the full list of things i do do not cover all of possible changes you pointed out. i constructed it in a way that also works with snapshots: diff include/sys/syscall{args,}.h with

Re: Following -current through a semi-automatic process: a strategy for encouraging user involvement?

2012-06-19 Thread Matthew Dempsky
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Andres Perera wrote: > all of the calls in syscalls.master map to a unique function, and all > of them start with sys_. it's true that nm won't tell me about > argument changes. i just risk it a little by assuming no one's that > evil Okay, granted nm will tell yo

Re: Following -current through a semi-automatic process: a strategy for encouraging user involvement?

2012-06-19 Thread Andres Perera
and that will be an exception that i'll have to deal with, which is entirely reasonable given that they rarely do change another rare exception i could skirt around would be white space changes that would deter me from diffing syscalls.master instead of `nm /bsd` during automation, but the problem

Re: Following -current through a semi-automatic process: a strategy for encouraging user involvement?

2012-06-19 Thread Philip Guenther
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Andres Perera wrote: > all of the calls in syscalls.master map to a unique function, and all > of them start with sys_. it's true that nm won't tell me about > argument changes. i just risk it a little by assuming no one's that > evil Heh. *Yesterday* tedu asked

Re: Following -current through a semi-automatic process: a strategy for encouraging user involvement?

2012-06-19 Thread Andres Perera
since packages are done in synch with snapshots, i do not use the trees because i rather use packages it's not clear whether or not changes in snapshots are allowed to make the packages incompatible with what you find in the repositories. perhaps i would be able to retract what i said as silly (an

Re: Following -current through a semi-automatic process: a strategy for encouraging user involvement?

2012-06-19 Thread Andres Perera
all of the calls in syscalls.master map to a unique function, and all of them start with sys_. it's true that nm won't tell me about argument changes. i just risk it a little by assuming no one's that evil On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Matthew Dempsky wrote: > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 5:44 PM,

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Re: OpenBSD forked

2012-06-19 Thread STeve Andre'
On 06/19/12 22:58, Jay Patel wrote: Hi all users, I am users too. Thanks cody. I am learning C too. from "C primus plus" any thoughts from devs. which we should read? Thanks, Jay. Well, http://openbsd.org/books.html comes to mind. But also start reading code. An absurdly simple example

Re: Following -current through a semi-automatic process: a strategy for encouraging user involvement?

2012-06-19 Thread Luis Useche
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Ted Unangst wrote: > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 21:41, eagir...@cox.net wrote: > >> What may be a slightly faster method of tracking close to current: >> >> http://www.tedunangst.com/snapper.html >> >> I haven't used it in a while, because I used to build the kernel

Temperature script for sensorsd(8)

2012-06-19 Thread Robert Connolly
Hello. I'm not a proficient shell script writer, so I would like advice and criticism for my sensorsd(8) temperature script. In particular, I would like the "above" email to root to include helpful information that would help explain why the temperature went to critical. Anything else that I may

Re: OpenBSD forked

2012-06-19 Thread Jay Patel
Thanks Steve, Ted, bofh .. will take your advice and will start reading code. Also doing something with it. Thanks a lot.

Re: OpenBSD forked

2012-06-19 Thread bofh
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Jay Patel wrote: > Hi all users, > > I am users too.  Thanks cody. I am learning C too. from "C primus > plus" any thoughts from devs. which we should read? Udacity.com had a good python class. Intro, from zero background, to writing a mini-google (crawler + ind

Re: OpenBSD forked

2012-06-19 Thread Ted Unangst
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 08:28, Jay Patel wrote: > Hi all users, > > I am users too. Thanks cody. I am learning C too. from "C primus > plus" any thoughts from devs. which we should read? You will not truly learn C, or any language, until you *do* something with it. Project euler has some proble

Re: Following -current through a semi-automatic process: a strategy for encouraging user involvement?

2012-06-19 Thread Ted Unangst
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 21:41, eagir...@cox.net wrote: > What may be a slightly faster method of tracking close to current: > > http://www.tedunangst.com/snapper.html > > I haven't used it in a while, because I used to build the kernel with NTFS > support, and never got back to using it after th

Re: OpenBSD forked

2012-06-19 Thread Jay Patel
Hi all users, I am users too. Thanks cody. I am learning C too. from "C primus plus" any thoughts from devs. which we should read? Thanks, Jay.

Re: Following -current through a semi-automatic process: a strategy for encouraging user involvement?

2012-06-19 Thread eagirard
At 2012-06-20 0:00:21, Tony Sidaway wrote: Summary: I want to turn my main system into a semi-automatic follower of "-current" and I think this strategy may useful to the project. Is this something that is already being done? My rationale here is that it's a good thing for OpenBSD users who have

Re: acpitz critical temperature is too high

2012-06-19 Thread Robert Connolly
It didn't occur to me to set up sensorsd(8) this way, although it makes perfect sense now. This would also work well for battery monitoring. Thank you On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Artturi Alm wrote: > 2012/6/19 Robert Connolly > >> sensorsd(8)'s "low" goes in the other direction. If I set

Re: Following -current through a semi-automatic process: a strategy for encouraging user involvement?

2012-06-19 Thread Matthew Dempsky
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Tony Sidaway wrote: > Summary: I want to turn my main system into a semi-automatic follower > of "-current" and I think this strategy may useful to the project. Is > this something that is already being done? That's more or less what the snapshot process is, excep

Re: Following -current through a semi-automatic process: a strategy for encouraging user involvement?

2012-06-19 Thread Theo de Raadt
> never mind the premise that snapshots contain changes not found in the > trees, you state things to the effect of "user chooses wether or not > to reboot to new kernel". didn't even bother; e.g., comparing nm > outputs well, hang on. quite often those diffs in snapshots are not yet commited for

Re: Following -current through a semi-automatic process: a strategy for encouraging user involvement?

2012-06-19 Thread Matthew Dempsky
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Andres Perera wrote: > didn't even bother; e.g., comparing nm > outputs Er, what are you expecting to divine by comparing nm output?

Re: Following -current through a semi-automatic process: a strategy for encouraging user involvement?

2012-06-19 Thread Andres Perera
ultimately naive/incomplete approach never mind the premise that snapshots contain changes not found in the trees, you state things to the effect of "user chooses wether or not to reboot to new kernel". didn't even bother; e.g., comparing nm outputs

Re: Following -current through a semi-automatic process: a strategy for encouraging user involvement?

2012-06-19 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Tony, Tony Sidaway wrote on Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 01:00:21AM +0100: > Summary: I want to turn my main system into a semi-automatic follower > of "-current" and I think this strategy may useful to the project. Is > this something that is already being done? No. The main reason being that follo

Following -current through a semi-automatic process: a strategy for encouraging user involvement?

2012-06-19 Thread Tony Sidaway
Summary: I want to turn my main system into a semi-automatic follower of "-current" and I think this strategy may useful to the project. Is this something that is already being done? My rationale here is that it's a good thing for OpenBSD users who have the technical skills to follow development a

Re: Keeping -Stable updated

2012-06-19 Thread Brian W.
If this is a production server I think you want to track the patch branch? On Jun 19, 2012 4:41 PM, "thunderlight1" wrote: > Hi! > I'm quite new to OpenBSD, and just installed 5.1 release which I upgraded > to -stabel according to instruction described on section 5 in the FAQ. > My question is: >

Keeping -Stable updated

2012-06-19 Thread thunderlight1
Hi! I'm quite new to OpenBSD, and just installed 5.1 release which I upgraded to -stabel according to instruction described on section 5 in the FAQ. My question is: Do I need to run all the steps specified on section 5 in the FAQ each day (maybe using a cron-job) to have an updated -stabel release

Re: need advice, network monitor isues on LAN devices..

2012-06-19 Thread Felix
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:12:07PM +0200, Ton Muller wrote: > normaly i dont write much. > but this time i am stuck with nasty isue. > i want to count send/received packets from each network device i have in > my lan. Try nfsen > and put them in MRTG as nice graps. It doesn't use MRTG but has it

Re: 5.1 and snapshots freeze changing between X and console

2012-06-19 Thread Fred Crowson
On 18 June 2012 16:17, Steve wrote: > Hi This is still occurring using latest snapshot. > > On multiple HP compaq pcs. > Message received say inteldrm0 gpu hung. > I am unable to run X -configure. > fails with a seg fault. > Any thoughts ? > > Thanks This might be linked to: http://marc.info/?l=

Re: basic smtpd question

2012-06-19 Thread bofh
Found it. Either of the following in /etc/mail/aliases will cause the problem Tai: tai TAI: tai On the other hand, the following is perfectly fine: "@.@": tai :) On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 5:10 PM, bofh wrote: > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Gilles Chehade wrote: > >> I don't know if it'

Re: basic smtpd question

2012-06-19 Thread bofh
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Gilles Chehade wrote: > I don't know if it's that, but it is then we are facing a bug, it should > work with as many aliases as you want. > > Care to share your /etc/mail/aliases file ? I have confirmed it is the aliases file, by reverting to the original aliases

Re: need advice, network monitor isues on LAN devices..

2012-06-19 Thread Jan Stary
On Jun 19 22:12:07, Ton Muller wrote: > normaly i dont write much. > but this time i am stuck with nasty isue. > i want to count send/received packets from each network device i have in > my lan. netstat -I $iface

Re: need advice, network monitor isues on LAN devices..

2012-06-19 Thread Tomasz Marszal
You can use snmp to collect the data from verious network devices On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:43:24 +0200, Tomasz Marszal wrote: > use netstat > Regards > tom > > On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:12:07 +0200, Ton Muller wrote: >> normaly i dont write much. >> but this time i am stuck with nasty isue. >> i wan

Re: need advice, network monitor isues on LAN devices..

2012-06-19 Thread Tomasz Marszal
use netstat Regards tom On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:12:07 +0200, Ton Muller wrote: > normaly i dont write much. > but this time i am stuck with nasty isue. > i want to count send/received packets from each network device i have in > my lan. > and put them in MRTG as nice graps. > however, i cant find

need advice, network monitor isues on LAN devices..

2012-06-19 Thread Ton Muller
normaly i dont write much. but this time i am stuck with nasty isue. i want to count send/received packets from each network device i have in my lan. and put them in MRTG as nice graps. however, i cant find a program that is able to do what i want. the only program that comes close is darkstat, but

Re: basic smtpd question

2012-06-19 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 01:23:10PM -0400, bofh wrote: > > I don't know if it's me, or what... :( I went back to the original > config. If this is a bug, I'd be happy to submit, if this is a > mistake I made... :) > > # pfctl -d; pkill smtpd; grep -v "^#" /etc/mail/smtpd.conf ; smtpd -dv > pf d

Re: OpenBSD forked

2012-06-19 Thread Pablo Velasco Fernández
I agree with Cody. And I encourage all the OpenBSD developers. You are doing a great work. Im triying to learn C by my self but its a bit complicated hahaha. Greetings from Spain El 19/06/2012 21:24, "cody chandler" escribió: > Hello, > > > I'm not a Developer, Maintainer or anything else. Stri

Re: OpenBSD forked

2012-06-19 Thread cody chandler
Hello, I'm not a Developer, Maintainer or anything else. Strictly a user. 1. Thank you to all the Developers who take time to make a product and frankly give a dam about the work and quality of it. ( Wish car makers did the same! ) 2. Even though I am not a Developer or fully understand wh

Re: basic smtpd question

2012-06-19 Thread bofh
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Gilles Chehade wrote: > sorry for the delay, > > does this issue still exist ? > > can you run smtpd with -dv and send output as you reproduce ? I don't know if it's me, or what... :( I went back to the original config. If this is a bug, I'd be happy to submit,

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Re: OpenBSD forked

2012-06-19 Thread Theo de Raadt
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 12:59:16AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > Ariane wants to be involved as well, but is still waiting to > > see how others in the project feel. > > I've changed from waiting to being involved. > > And in Theo's interest in breaking secrecy: I've stepped down from > maint

Re: 5.1 and snapshots freeze changing between X and console

2012-06-19 Thread Steve
Hi This is still occurring using latest snapshot. On multiple HP compaq pcs. Message received say inteldrm0 gpu hung. I am unable to run X -configure. fails with a seg fault. Any thoughts ? Thanks OpenBSD 5.1-current (GENERIC) #231: Tue Jun 12 18:31:26 MDT 2012     t...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/s

Re: OpenBSD forked

2012-06-19 Thread Ariane van der Steldt
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 12:59:16AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: > Ariane wants to be involved as well, but is still waiting to > see how others in the project feel. I've changed from waiting to being involved. And in Theo's interest in breaking secrecy: I've stepped down from maintaining uvm. Why

Re: acpitz critical temperature is too high

2012-06-19 Thread Artturi Alm
2012/6/19 Robert Connolly > sensorsd(8)'s "low" goes in the other direction. If I set "low" to 60C, it > will go off if the CPU is running at 50C. Sensorsd(8) isn't made for such > fine control as some of us would like. > > If the battery is low, we want the sensor to alert us. If the temperature

Re: Mounting a partition, cdrom, usb as a user

2012-06-19 Thread russell
On 06/19/2012 06:40 AM, Christopher Zimmermann wrote: On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 22:26:57 -0700 russell wrote: quite suprised. no love so far for fbtab(5) The fbtab file is used by login(1) to chown(2) the specified files to the user who has performed a login. Additionally, chmod(2) is

Re: Mounting a partition, cdrom, usb as a user

2012-06-19 Thread Christopher Zimmermann
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 22:26:57 -0700 russell wrote: > quite suprised. > no love so far for fbtab(5) The fbtab file is used by login(1) to chown(2) the specified files to the user who has performed a login. Additionally, chmod(2) is used to set the devices to the specified permissio

Re: lenovo ideapad s100 dmesg + notes

2012-06-19 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 1:04 PM, frantisek holop wrote: > hi there, > > following the fiasco with the acer aspire one D270 netbook, > that comes with the open source hater intel GMA3600 integrated > graphics adapter, i sold off the machine and bought a couple > of generations older levno ideapad s

Re: Mounting a partition, cdrom, usb as a user

2012-06-19 Thread russell
On 06/16/2012 04:39 AM, Mik J wrote: Hello, I'm able to mount a partition as a user if I have kern.usermount=1 # ls -l /dev/wd2* brw-rw 1 root operator0, 0 May 7 21:54 /dev/wd2a # ls -l /mnt drwxrwxr-x 2 myuser operator 512 May 7 22:38 extpart and # grep operator /etc/group ope

lenovo ideapad s100 dmesg + notes

2012-06-19 Thread frantisek holop
hi there, following the fiasco with the acer aspire one D270 netbook, that comes with the open source hater intel GMA3600 integrated graphics adapter, i sold off the machine and bought a couple of generations older levno ideapad s 100 that comes with Atom N570 / GMA3100 that is supported by the X

Re: Manual chpass & passwd have diff descriptions about /etc/passwd

2012-06-19 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 09:52:28AM +0800, f5b wrote: > CHPASS(1) > FILES > /etc/master.passwd user database > /etc/passwd a Version 7 format password file > /etc/ptmp lock file for the passwd database > /etc/shells list of approved shel

Re: acpitz critical temperature is too high

2012-06-19 Thread David Diggles
I think one problem with using syslog triggers is opening op the risk for DOS attack if someuser or some internet connection into a service finds a way to trick syslog to print strings, to.. shutdown a server. On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:36:46PM -0700, Robert Connolly wrote: > Another idea I forgo

Re: Qemu and audio input?

2012-06-19 Thread Alexandre Ratchov
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 08:23:05AM +0200, Tomas Bodzar wrote: > > If audio input/output will be working then it's possible to use > Microsoft Office Communicator and/or Lync for Live meetings. Just idea > for now as it can end quite complicated. But in same time it probably > means that support fo

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Re: acpitz critical temperature is too high

2012-06-19 Thread Mike Larkin
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 05:54:31PM -0700, Robert Connolly wrote: > I want to initiate a shutdown if the temperature gets too high. I have been This already happens if the temperature gets too high. See recent threads on misc@ about this. > using sensorsd(8), but sensorsd(8) only reacts once to t

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