Re: Assigning OpenBSD server to a single IP to Two NICs , Connect to Two Switches

2012-03-07 Thread Bret S. Lambert
On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 01:25:35PM +0800, Pok Yie wrote: > Hye guys, > > I have an issue to ask here. I have two core switches. Am I able to use a > single IP for two NICs, and each NICs connecting to each core switches to > provide fail-over? > > > Core 1 == NIC 1 [192.168.0.1 ] NIC 2 == Core 2

Assigning OpenBSD server to a single IP to Two NICs , Connect to Two Switches

2012-03-07 Thread Pok Yie
Hye guys, I have an issue to ask here. I have two core switches. Am I able to use a single IP for two NICs, and each NICs connecting to each core switches to provide fail-over? Core 1 == NIC 1 [192.168.0.1 ] NIC 2 == Core 2 So, my client only know a single IP address, regardless core 1 or core

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Kenneth R Westerback
On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 06:19:02PM +0100, David Vasek wrote: > On Wed, 7 Mar 2012, Donald Allen wrote: > > >"While the FAQ is indeed clear, the installer's simplicity appears > >at that point a little deceptive, in that one (I know I was) is > >tempted to think that such a user-friendly installer

Re: X mouse acceleration?

2012-03-07 Thread Alan Corey
On Thu, 8 Mar 2012, Brett wrote: On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 22:41:39 -0500 (EST) Alan Corey wrote: Thanks, I'll look at that. Are your values exact or off-the-cuff? I get that 230 isn't a valid property, but you've got me started reading the xinput man page anyway. I'm playing with properties 236-

Re: X mouse acceleration?

2012-03-07 Thread Brett
On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 22:41:39 -0500 (EST) Alan Corey wrote: > Thanks, I'll look at that. Are your values exact or off-the-cuff? I get > that 230 isn't a valid property, but you've got me started reading the > xinput man page anyway. I'm playing with properties 236-239 mainly. > > > Hi Alan,

Re: current releases not updated?

2012-03-07 Thread Kenneth R Westerback
On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 09:17:27AM +0100, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 09:07:32AM +0100, Didier Wiroth wrote: > > > In the past current os packages were updated more often, is there a > > reason why packages are (somewhat old) or are there some changes in > > current updat

Re: X mouse acceleration?

2012-03-07 Thread Alan Corey
Thanks, I'll look at that. Are your values exact or off-the-cuff? I get that 230 isn't a valid property, but you've got me started reading the xinput man page anyway. I'm playing with properties 236-239 mainly. I remember you used to be able to stick a resolution line in your XFree86.conf a

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Ted Unangst
On Wed, Mar 07, 2012, Nick Holland wrote: > On 03/07/12 18:32, Marc Espie wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 10:10:12AM -0500, Nick Holland wrote: >>> yes, scrollback is something that was sacrificed on the installer to >>> keep it able to fit on a floppy (contrary to another contribution to >>> thi

Re: X mouse acceleration?

2012-03-07 Thread Brett
On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 11:21:55 -0500 (EST) Alan Corey wrote: > I'm trying to speed up my mouse. If I do xset m 10 4 or even xset m 100 > 4, I can see the change with xset q, but the mouse acts the same. It > works under Linux (multiboot) but not here. > I'm using 1920x1080 resolution and I ha

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread R0me0 ***
"*UNIX was not designed to stop its users from doing stupid things, as that would also stop them from doing clever things.*"  Doug Gwyn Em 7 de margo de 2012 11:27, Leonardo Sabino dos Santos < leonardo.sab...@gmail.com>

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Marcos Bento Luna
tl:dr: yes, I agree with the OP - that step could be more informative and it would be a good idea to include further confirmation before effectively writing changes to the disk/MBR. -- Hi everybody, I'm new here and I have been trying OpenBSD for the past couple of weeks, and finally today

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Nick Holland
On 03/07/12 18:32, Marc Espie wrote: > On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 10:10:12AM -0500, Nick Holland wrote: >> yes, scrollback is something that was sacrificed on the installer to >> keep it able to fit on a floppy (contrary to another contribution to >> this thread). Unfortunate, annoying, and unfortuna

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Gerald Chudyk
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:26 AM, Leonardo Sabino dos Santos wrote: > Hi, > > I want to tell you about my experience with OpenBSD. > You would have loved an operating system called IMOS from NCR. They had a useful command that would delete files from a disk. If you forgot to mention which file ( by

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 10:10:12AM -0500, Nick Holland wrote: > yes, scrollback is something that was sacrificed on the installer to > keep it able to fit on a floppy (contrary to another contribution to > this thread). Unfortunate, annoying, and unfortunately, I got no > better ideas. Is it true

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 07:41:47PM +0100, Leonardo Sabino dos Santos wrote: > I also agree with those who pointed out that doing experimental OS > installs on a machine you care about is not a particularly smart thing > to do. It's also fairly stupid to ever do an install without first backing up

Re: openbsd 5.0 lifebook p1110 kernal panic on suspend/standby

2012-03-07 Thread Ted Unangst
As a short term workaround, type -c at the boot prompt, then "disable cbb" at the next prompt, then quit, and see what happens. On Wed, Mar 07, 2012, Kendall Shaw wrote: > Kendall Shaw writes: > >> Hi, >> >> I have a lifebook p1110 which causes a kernel panic related to APM, I >> think. Either b

Re: openbsd 5.0 lifebook p1110 kernal panic on suspend/standby

2012-03-07 Thread Kendall Shaw
Kendall Shaw writes: > Hi, > > I have a lifebook p1110 which causes a kernel panic related to APM, I > think. Either by setting power savings settings in BIOS to suspend or > standby, or > disabling power savings in BIOS and running apmd and apm -z or apm -S > causes a kernal panic. > > Do you h

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:52:45 -0500 Sean Howard wrote: > This error is the best error you can make. Keeps you respecting your system > and your own ability to control it. Leonardo, have you ever started zeroing the wrong /dev/ with dd yet? Backup everything important and hope it saves you more ti

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Dan Farrell
I agree with Holtzman's sentiment, the OP should consider himself lucky that he hit a struggling point as early as he did, lest he hit a much bigger "first brick wall" later down the road. Now he has the benefit of respecting the OS while still getting a feel for it. On Mar 7, 2012 3:21 PM, "daniel

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Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread daniel holtzman
Let's all step back a moment: Leonardo is neither the first nor will he be the last person to be bitten by something in OpenBSD. I say we tell him we are sorry for his troubles, giggle a little bit, give him a hearty pat on the back, and shout, "Welcome to the elite community of OpenBSD users! W

report errors with ports apps

2012-03-07 Thread Mihai Popescu
Hello, What is the proper way to report glitches or errors from applications present in ports only ( not in base) ? Is it ok to discuss those on ports@ ? I want to avoid doing this on misc@ from now on. Thank you.

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Jay Huldeen
On 03/07/2012 07:26, Leonardo Sabino dos Santos wrote: Hi, I joined this mailing list just to tell you this: Right now, I feel like never, ever touching OpenBSD with a ten-foot pole again. A couple of years ago I decided to get back into computing and built a box. I have run through many of

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Benny Lofgren
On 2012-03-07 17.23, Dennis den Brok wrote: > On 2012-03-07, Raimo Niskanen wrote: >> So I think a pronounced confirmation question before touching the disk >> is not a bad thing. It is what many would expect. > As there seems to be much resistance to one more (redundant) question > in the install

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Sean Howard
Somebody claiming to be Leonardo Sabino dos Santos wrote: > > I have to apologize to everyone on this list for the tone of that > first message. I was angry and venting, and I apologize if it offended > anyone. I understand that the installer works the way it does because > that's what's useful to

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Nick Holland
On 03/07/2012 12:55 PM, David Vasek wrote: On Wed, 7 Mar 2012, Amit Kulkarni wrote: ... Use (W)hole disk or (E)dit the MBR? [edit] while the OP did make a mistake, he could modify the default to be edit the MBR. so he would be forced to pay attention while staring at the partition table. i wou

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Leonardo Sabino dos Santos
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Dave Anderson wrote: > To be fair (which is a bit difficult given the tone of the original > message) he has identified what may be the only place in the install > process where a single wrong keystroke can do major damage. Everyplace > else I can think of there's

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Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Diana Eichert
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Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Donald Allen
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:19 PM, David Vasek wrote: > On Wed, 7 Mar 2012, Donald Allen wrote: > >> "While the FAQ is indeed clear, the installer's simplicity appears >> at that point a little deceptive, in that one (I know I was) is >> tempted to think that such a user-friendly installer would not

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread David Vasek
On Wed, 7 Mar 2012, Amit Kulkarni wrote: On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 11:19 AM, David Vasek wrote: On Wed, 7 Mar 2012, Donald Allen wrote: "While the FAQ is indeed clear, the installer's simplicity appears at that point a little deceptive, in that one (I know I was) is tempted to think that such a

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
"Dmitrij D. Czarkoff" writes: > "OpenBSD installer should be tuned so that hitting [Enter] all the way > gets you to a bootable system without side effects" My typical install is almost all hitting Enter (with a couple of obvious exceptions9, and it ends with a bootable and very usable system. B

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Daniel Bolgheroni
On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 02:49:01PM +0100, Leonardo Sabino dos Santos wrote: > Sorry about the tone earlier, but I'm still incredulous that the > install program would do something as serious as overwriting the > partition table by default without confirmation. An installation of an unknown OS, wit

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Amit Kulkarni
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 11:19 AM, David Vasek wrote: > On Wed, 7 Mar 2012, Donald Allen wrote: > >> "While the FAQ is indeed clear, the installer's simplicity appears >> at that point a little deceptive, in that one (I know I was) is >> tempted to think that such a user-friendly installer would not

Re: installation to (W)hole disk - saner default

2012-03-07 Thread James Shupe
> I'm not sure about this part, actually. I won't make statements about > the OpenBSD community as whole, but in my experience using the whole > disk is the most typical action. > Every one of the installs I do uses the whole disk. The installer is best left alone because it fits the typical use

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Mihai Popescu
David Vasek wrote: >Except that the equipment shoudn't direct people to behave in such a >disasterous way. And this the case. This is not the case, don't be ridiculous. There is not a disaster if you wipe out your hardisk by mistake. I think you got it wrong here. The developer can put anything h

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread David Vasek
On Wed, 7 Mar 2012, Donald Allen wrote: "While the FAQ is indeed clear, the installer's simplicity appears at that point a little deceptive, in that one (I know I was) is tempted to think that such a user-friendly installer would not harm one so easily..." I disagree. I think the installer is f

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Richard Thornton
Multi boot systems are definitely more risky to assemble; I prefer use of VM's instead. On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Donald Allen wrote: > "While the FAQ is indeed clear, the installer's simplicity appears > at that point a little deceptive, in that one (I know I was) is > tempted to think t

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Donald Allen
"While the FAQ is indeed clear, the installer's simplicity appears at that point a little deceptive, in that one (I know I was) is tempted to think that such a user-friendly installer would not harm one so easily..." I disagree. I think the installer is fine the way it is and it was not the proble

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Alan Corey
Partitioning the disk is not irreversible. Use the Symantek/Norton utilities and it will make guesses and try to find Windows partitions. Once the newfs (formatting) starts, that's fairly irreversible. Alan On Wed, 7 Mar 2012, Dave Anderson wrote: On Wed, 7 Mar 2012, Stuart Henderson wrot

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> > B Use (W)hole disk or (E)dit the MBR? [whole] You should certainly try Ctrl-C, Esc, Ctrl-alt-del, power switch and never enter in order to not do something. Taking the situation of the cat jumping on the keyboard and you may have an argument except you do have to hit [I] for install first and

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Aaron
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Dennis den Brok wrote: > On 2012-03-07, Raimo Niskanen wrote: >> I just want to defend the OP a wee bit. >> >> Most installers I have encountered; Linux, FreeBSD, ... have a >> very pronounced confirmation question just before making irreversible >> changes to the

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Renzo Fabriek
On Wednesday 07 March 2012 15:27:51 Leonardo Sabino dos Santos wrote: > On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Russell Garrison > wrote: > > I am absolutely intrigued by this story despite my better judgement. > > You were able to cook your own full OpenBSD installer on a USB stick > > with GRUB instead

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Dennis den Brok
On 2012-03-07, Raimo Niskanen wrote: > I just want to defend the OP a wee bit. > > Most installers I have encountered; Linux, FreeBSD, ... have a > very pronounced confirmation question just before making irreversible > changes to the target disk. Especially the ones that start by > collecting con

X mouse acceleration?

2012-03-07 Thread Alan Corey
I'm trying to speed up my mouse. If I do xset m 10 4 or even xset m 100 4, I can see the change with xset q, but the mouse acts the same. It works under Linux (multiboot) but not here. I'm using OpenBSD 5.0 with a vanilla X installed from xbase50.tgz, xetc50.tgz, xfont50.tgz, xserv50.tgz, sh

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Dave Anderson
On Wed, 7 Mar 2012, Stuart Henderson wrote: >On 2012-03-07, Leonardo Sabino dos Santos wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff >> wrote: >>> On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 13:26 +0100, Leonardo Sabino dos Santos wrote: Next, the disk stuff comes up. A lot of partition informati

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 14:49 +0100, Leonardo Sabino dos Santos wrote: > I pressed Enter by mistake there (and realized my mistake a couple of > seconds too late). The kind of confirmation I expected is something > like: "This will erase all partitions, are you sure (y/n)?", or an > opportunity to re

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Nick Holland
On 03/07/2012 07:26 AM, Leonardo Sabino dos Santos wrote: Hi, I want to tell you about my experience with OpenBSD. I'm a Linux user, but have always wanted to try OpenBSD. The last time I'd tried installing it was version 4.6 and I didn't get very far. That version wouldn't install on my notebo

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Donald Allen
"Distributing an installation program that can wipe out the user's hard disk instantly on a single wrong keystroke, without so much as a confirmation prompt is so shortsighted and irresponsible that I can barely believe it. " Doing an installation on a machine that you obviously care about, with t

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 03:57:10PM +0100, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote: > On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 15:27 +0100, Leonardo Sabino dos Santos wrote: > > Then again, partitioning your disk is a bit more serious than "What's > > your hostname?" or "What time zone are you in?". Maybe that one > > question des

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 15:27 +0100, Leonardo Sabino dos Santos wrote: > Then again, partitioning your disk is a bit more serious than "What's > your hostname?" or "What time zone are you in?". Maybe that one > question deserves an extra confirmation, or a less dangerous default. Sorry, but you wrot

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2012-03-07, Leonardo Sabino dos Santos wrote: > On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff > wrote: >> On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 13:26 +0100, Leonardo Sabino dos Santos wrote: >>> Next, the disk stuff comes up. A lot of partition information appears >>> on the screen, followed by the ques

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Leonardo Sabino dos Santos wrote: > Hi, > > I want to tell you about my experience with OpenBSD. > > I'm a Linux user, but have always wanted to try OpenBSD. The last time > I'd tried installing it was version 4.6 and I didn't get very far. > That version wouldn't i

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread James Shupe
> So I think a pronounced confirmation question before touching the disk > is not a bad thing. It is what many would expect. I didn't know that the devs were in the business of holding hands. OpenBSD has the best installer of any OS, hands down. It's tiny, scriptable, to the point, and does exact

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Todd
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 6:26 AM, Leonardo Sabino dos Santos wrote: > Hi, > > I want to tell you about my experience with OpenBSD. > > I'm a Linux user, but have always wanted to try OpenBSD. The last time > I'd tried installing it was version 4.6 and I didn't get very far. > That version wouldn't i

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Anonymous Remailer (austria)
> So I downloaded all the package files, wrote them to a USB stick, > created a bootable image with GRUB, booted into the OpenBSD installer > and off we go. Now, this computer already had Windows 7 and Linux, > plus about 16 GB of unpartitioned space where OpenBSD is going. It's > actually the same

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Leonardo Sabino dos Santos
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Russell Garrison wrote: > I am absolutely intrigued by this story despite my better judgement. > You were able to cook your own full OpenBSD installer on a USB stick > with GRUB instead of downloading an ISO or using PXE, but you failed > disk setup in the installer

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Raimo Niskanen
On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 03:04:33PM +0100, Christer Solskogen wrote: > On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Leonardo Sabino dos Santos > wrote: > > I pressed Enter by mistake there (and realized my mistake a couple of > > seconds too late). The kind of confirmation I expected is something > > like: "Thi

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Warriner, Benjamin
And you didn't read the FAQ because? The OpenBSD Installation Guide is easily found at http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html People wrote this documentation so other people would actually read it and not have your unfortunate experience. Your inability or unwillingness to do your homework before sta

source ./vars and pkitool

2012-03-07 Thread pavel pocheptsov
Hello misc, I know that it is terrible, and many answers on this questions in past, but construction with dot and space before ./vars is work to make ./clean-all and ./build-dh. and something went wrong with ./pkitool # uname -a OpenBSD openbsd 5.0 GENERIC.MP#59 i386 # pwd /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa #

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Zak Elep
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Leonardo Sabino dos Santos wrote: > On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Zak Elep > wrote: >> >> Too bad, a thorough reading of FAQ Chapter 4[0] could have saved you a >> LOT of trouble. >> >> [0]: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html > > I had actually read chapter 4

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Christer Solskogen
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Leonardo Sabino dos Santos wrote: > I pressed Enter by mistake there (and realized my mistake a couple of > seconds too late). The kind of confirmation I expected is something > like: "This will erase all partitions, are you sure (y/n)?", What if you mistyped there

pfsync changes in current?

2012-03-07 Thread Kapetanakis Giannis
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Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Peter Hessler
On 2012 Mar 07 (Wed) at 13:26:41 +0100 (+0100), Leonardo Sabino dos Santos wrote: ... :I'm not actually paying :a whole lot of attention to the questions as this is just a test :installation and I figure I can always explore and configure the :system later. : You should always pay attention to an

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Leonardo Sabino dos Santos
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote: > On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 13:26 +0100, Leonardo Sabino dos Santos wrote: >> Next, the disk stuff comes up. A lot of partition information appears >> on the screen, followed by the question: >> >> Use (W)hole disk or (E)dit the MBR? [whole]

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Russell Garrison
I am absolutely intrigued by this story despite my better judgement. You were able to cook your own full OpenBSD installer on a USB stick with GRUB instead of downloading an ISO or using PXE, but you failed disk setup in the installer? It really would be interesting to see if you can read just http

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant) (even longer)

2012-03-07 Thread Mo Libden
07 PQ Leonardo Sabino dos Santos : > I start answering the installer's questions. Keyboard layout. Root > password. Configuration of network interfaces. I'm not actually paying > a whole lot of attention to the questions as this is just a test > installation and I figure I can always explore and

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread fish . kungfu
You just cut yourself in the shark tank. Good luck. 07.03.12, 07:31, "Leonardo Sabino dos Santos" : > > Hi, > > I want to tell you about my experience with OpenBSD. > > I'm a Linux user, but have always wanted to try OpenBSD. The last time > I'd tried installing it was version 4.6 and I didn'

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Mihai Popescu
> Leonardo Sabino dos Santos wrote: > I want to tell you about my experience with OpenBSD. It seems that you need to get some experience and then talk about it. You have none yet in the area you promote, so why should I be interested about nothing ? > [ put here the "experience" ] To talk about

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Zak Elep
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Leonardo Sabino dos Santos wrote: > I'm a Linux user, but have always wanted to try OpenBSD. The last time > I'd tried installing it was version 4.6 and I didn't get very far. > That version wouldn't install on my notebook at all. The kernel > couldn't recognise my

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 01:26:41PM +0100, Leonardo Sabino dos Santos wrote: > Next, the disk stuff comes up. A lot of partition information appears > on the screen, followed by the question: > > Use (W)hole disk or (E)dit the MBR? [whole] > > At this point I'm actually trying to remember if the

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Rares Aioanei
On 03/07/2012 02:26 PM, Leonardo Sabino dos Santos wrote: [rant...] Distributing an installation program that can wipe out the user's hard disk instantly on a single wrong keystroke, without so much as a confirmation prompt is so shortsighted and irresponsible that I can barely believe it. Thi

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 13:26 +0100, Leonardo Sabino dos Santos wrote: > Next, the disk stuff comes up. A lot of partition information appears > on the screen, followed by the question: > > Use (W)hole disk or (E)dit the MBR? [whole] > > At this point I'm actually trying to remember if there's a

My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-07 Thread Leonardo Sabino dos Santos
Hi, I want to tell you about my experience with OpenBSD. I'm a Linux user, but have always wanted to try OpenBSD. The last time I'd tried installing it was version 4.6 and I didn't get very far. That version wouldn't install on my notebook at all. The kernel couldn't recognise my hard drive becau

Re: xxxterm & http download weirdness

2012-03-07 Thread Remco
Mihai Popescu wrote: > Hello, > > I was starting a download of ports from > http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/openbsd/snapshots/ports.tar.gz to compare > it with an old archive from a mirror. As you can see, the file size is > listed as 20.7M, but what I got is a 220M file which is corrupted as > repo

Re: current releases not updated?

2012-03-07 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 09:07:32AM +0100, Didier Wiroth wrote: > In the past current os packages were updated more often, is there a > reason why packages are (somewhat old) or are there some changes in > current update behavior? There was a similar pause in production of snapshots and their pack

xxxterm & http download weirdness

2012-03-07 Thread Mihai Popescu
Hello, I was starting a download of ports from http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/openbsd/snapshots/ports.tar.gz to compare it with an old archive from a mirror. As you can see, the file size is listed as 20.7M, but what I got is a 220M file which is corrupted as reported by tar. The fact is that artfil

current releases not updated?

2012-03-07 Thread Didier Wiroth
Hello, After checking the ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/amd64 directory for the latest releases, I saw that the latest build is from early/mid February, same with packages directory. In the past current os packages were updated more often, is there a reason why packages are (somewhat