On Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 11:57:53PM -0600, Travers Buda wrote:
> Yes this is quite silly. Stallman insists on "free" software, and
> distributions are only acceptable if they shove that software down
> the users throats in the stead of something else, thus restricting
> the users freedom.
illegal
On Dec 10, 2007 8:14 AM, Amarendra Godbole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It appears that browsing OpenBSD src/ through cvsweb points to old
> src, and not the latest one. For eg.,
> http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/gnu/usr.bin/ turns up many
> utilities which now have been moved und
On Dec 9, 2007 3:45 PM, Aaron Hsu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Thomas,
>
> Thanks for your message
>
> On Dec 9, 2007, at 1:22 PM, Thomas Delaet wrote:
>
> > I tried booting 4.2 i386 images (amd64 did not work) on my macbook. In
> > every case (bsd.rd, bsd and bsd.mp) I got the following as t
Hi,
It appears that browsing OpenBSD src/ through cvsweb points to old
src, and not the latest one. For eg.,
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/gnu/usr.bin/ turns up many
utilities which now have been moved under src/usr.bin/.
Can someone clarify as to why do I see this difference? Or am I
Steve Shockley wrote:
> ... more important than respecting patents.
You need to differentiate there between legitimate patents and US-style
software patents (which include also business methods, formulas, and
algorithms). Let's not throw away our analytical ability here.
In regards to RMS, I hav
Thanks for reminding about BSD-talk. There is a lot of good stuff there
in the archives.
Rico Secada wrote:
> ...
> As I have understood, this isn't true about OpenBSD, or am I wrong?
Maybe there is some problematic stuff in the Ports.
-Lars
* Kevin Stam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-09 23:41:28]:
> Exactly. Distributions need systems to prevent users from installing nasty
> unfree software. Something like...DRM. Oh wait..
>
> On Dec 9, 2007 11:27 PM, Ray Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > So, what Stallman seems to be saying
OK, I'm trying to accomplish this with tags. However, ftp-proxy is always
putting "quick" in the rules, so no further processing is done and my
reply-to tagged rule (located after the anchor) is never matched.
Would it make more sense to not use quick when -T option is used
with ftp-proxy?
GPL is non-free so go figure what it means.
This horse is pretty dead so lets leave it rot in piece.
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 03:15:46AM +0100, Rico Secada wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I have just listed to the interview of Richard Stallman on BSDTalk:
> http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/2007/10/bsdtalk132-richard
Exactly. Distributions need systems to prevent users from installing nasty
unfree software. Something like...DRM. Oh wait..
On Dec 9, 2007 11:27 PM, Ray Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So, what Stallman seems to be saying is that preventing users from
> running the software they choose is m
So, what Stallman seems to be saying is that preventing users from
running the software they choose is more important than respecting
patents.
Slavery is freedom.
Rico Secada wrote:
In the interview he states: "I am unhappy with the various
distributions of BSD, because all of them include, in their
installation systems, the ports system, they all include some non-free
programs. And as a result I can't recommend any of them."
"Include" is an incorrect wo
I believe the religious nut is talking about software in ports/packages. He
seems to see unfree software as something morally wrong, and as a result,
won't recommend any distribution that lets it's users even INSTALL non-free
software. Same reason he doesn't like Debian, even though they're one of
Hi.
I have just listed to the interview of Richard Stallman on BSDTalk:
http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/2007/10/bsdtalk132-richard-stallman.html
In the interview he states: "I am unhappy with the various
distributions of BSD, because all of them include, in their
installation systems, the ports syste
Andy Hayward wrote:
> On 09/12/2007, Mats Erik Andersson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> First, I have OpenBSD 4.2 running on this machine using
>> AMD-K6-2/350 on an AT-mainboard with VIA chipset VT82C598
>> and VT82C586B. (Well, both AT and ATX in fact.) I have not
>> detected any trouble until I p
sorry the error is:
# openssl req -new -x509 -extensions v3_ca -keyout private/cakey.pem -out
cacert.pem
Generating a 2048 bit RSA private key
..+++
...+++
writing new private key to 'private/cakey.pem'
Enter PEM pass phrase:
Verifyi
Thank you Nick. I setup default values for this section, as i read on net, but
it seems it is not working like that.
After i changed the value of "contryName" variable as you pointed (instead of
depending on default value variable for supplying default value), it is NOT
giving that error now.
I have written my first real (I've toyed around quit a bit) set of pf
rules and I was wondering if people on the list would take a minute or
two (ok maybe more than that actually) to evaluate them and let me and
other n00bs to pf, know if I have come even close to what a
complete/sane/efficient
who cares people?
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 12:04:01AM +0100, ropers wrote:
> For the benefit of the archives, the FreeBSD PDF URL given above is
> incorrect. The correct URL is
> http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/7.0%20Preview.pdf or if that
> doesn't work http://tinyurl.com/34nabm
On Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 03:23:27PM -0800, Diego Fernando Nieto Moreno wrote:
> Thanks for the response,
>
> But, How can I play audio and video (i.e. youtube) to 44100Khz ? In Linux and
> FreeBSD it works fine
try gnash or yt or some such from ports/packages.
> I record from FXTV with 16 bits S
On 20/11/2007, Aaron Hsu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I have had quite a few requests to come up with a new guide for the Macbook
> and OpenBSD. I haven't really thought that there was that much to update, so
> I haven't been doing too much on it. However, since there is a new -
I apologize for prolonging this thread, but I had to share this with you:
>From the aforementioned PDF:
"SMPng, step 3: Then make it fast; FreeBSD 7.0
(...)
> Major shift of focus from correctness to optimization, with
impressive results"
LOL.
Greetings :)
Have you considered running a passes with memtest86? I have the feeling one of
those RAM modules is defective, I still own a few K6-2 systems and they work
perfectly. ;)
-Nix fan.
Thanks for the response,
But, How can I play audio and video (i.e. youtube) to 44100Khz ? In Linux and
FreeBSD it works fine
I record from FXTV with 16 bits Signed (LSB) but it record noise :-(
Sincerely
Diego Fernando Nieto
CompumundoHypermegared.org
--- [EMA
On 2007/12/09 13:38, Manuel Ravasio wrote:
> OpenBSD 4.2 installs correctly and detects all hardware, as long
> as no RAID array is configured on the Intel 82801 controller. When
> he tries to configure a "hardware" RAID array, OpenBSD can "see"
> the array as wd0, but no configuration is possible
For the benefit of the archives, the FreeBSD PDF URL given above is
incorrect. The correct URL is
http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/7.0%20Preview.pdf or if that
doesn't work http://tinyurl.com/34nabm
badeguruji wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Is there anything on OpenBSD like the one below for
> FreeBSD. It presents material very clearly and
> cleanly, makes look freebsd very attractive.
>
> http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/7.0 Preview.pdf
>
> Thank you.
>
> -BG
>
> _
On Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 02:38:46PM -0800, Diego Fernando Nieto Moreno wrote:
> Hi
> I can't play audio files with AudioRate 22050Khz.
your hardware (Realtek ALC888) does not support 22050 Hz sampling rates.
no hardware supports 22050Khz, btw.
> I record with 16bits Unsigned (MSB) to 44100 sampl
On 12/9/07, badeguruji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> although i have setup the default country_code to 2 characters only ("US"). I
> was not able to find out why, am i getting below error, while trying to setup
> my own CA:
>
> # openssl req -new -x509 -extensions v3_ca -keyout private/
Hello list.
A friend of mine is trying to install a OpenBSD 4.2 box in order to run it as a
file server, print server, etc.
He bought a Intel DQ965GF MiniATX motherboard and a nice and pretty little case
to store it in.
He also bought 2 SATA disk because he would really like to build a mirrored
Hi
I have a Intel DG33FB, with OpenBSD 4.2-CURRENT Kernel. This motherboard has a
Realtek Audio Chip.
I can't play audio files with AudioRate 22050Khz. For example, in XMMS when I
tried to play a mp3 file (22050Khz) it sounds bad. And I received the following
error.
azalia_open: flags=0x2
az
>There is a comic related to the 4.2 release (which I'm too lazy to
>find and reference at the moment) in which "puffy" and other related
>creatures are in a race. Yes, I know the comic was OpenBSD produced
>and centric, but it hit home anyway.
>
>There is a frame that shows a Daemon (represe
Hello Thomas,
Thanks for your message
On Dec 9, 2007, at 1:22 PM, Thomas Delaet wrote:
I tried booting 4.2 i386 images (amd64 did not work) on my macbook. In
every case (bsd.rd, bsd and bsd.mp) I got the following as the first
kernel message:
"kbc: cmd word write error"
For all kernels, I e
Hello,
although i have setup the default country_code to 2 characters only ("US"). I
was not able to find out why, am i getting below error, while trying to setup
my own CA:
# openssl req -new -x509 -extensions v3_ca -keyout private/cakey.pem -out
cacert.pem
Generating a 2048 bit RSA private
On 09/12/2007, Mats Erik Andersson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> First, I have OpenBSD 4.2 running on this machine using
> AMD-K6-2/350 on an AT-mainboard with VIA chipset VT82C598
> and VT82C586B. (Well, both AT and ATX in fact.) I have not
> detected any trouble until I patched libssl according to
Constantine Kousoulos wrote:
> I have made a clean installation (not an upgrade) of OpenBSD 4.2 on my
pc. I've been using OpenBSD as my one and only os since 4.1 (gettind rid
of windows and linux) without any regrets.
> For web browsing and mail, i use mozilla-firefox and mozilla-thunderbird
instal
Hello all,
I am trying to untangle a strange segmentation fault
created by gcc using AMD-K6-2, but not with Pentium-II.
In particular, any hints on particular information bits
needed to pinpoint the error will be appreciated.
First, I have OpenBSD 4.2 running on this machine using
AMD-K6-2/350 on
I tried booting 4.2 i386 images (amd64 did not work) on my macbook. In
every case (bsd.rd, bsd and bsd.mp) I got the following as the first
kernel message:
"kbc: cmd word write error"
For all kernels, I enabled acpi and disabled apm.
Kernels boot fine, but as you can expect, I was not able to do
first thing first. i am sending emails on this list because i have already made
my decision to use OpenBSD.
my intention is not arguing about which OS is better.
I understand (for myself) that, OpenBSD is best (for me).
But, a good thing (that presentation attempt), is a good thing.
And,
to wish (
Jake Conk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Ultimately it doesn't really matter but I love top posting because it
> goes with the flow of using email.
That is a discussion which has been beaten to death too many times to
matter. One of the better summaries of the pros and cons of various
posting an
Carl Roberso ??:
NetOne - Doichin Dokov wrote:
In fact, we use also a bit more complicated BGP setup. Don't know if it
would be in any help for you
Doichin, your practical, "hands-on" examples are "true gold" for me, really.
Again, thank you very much for your help.
My router/fi
I have made a clean installation (not an upgrade) of OpenBSD 4.2 on my
pc. I've been using OpenBSD as my one and only os since 4.1 (gettind rid
of windows and linux) without any regrets.
For web browsing and mail, i use mozilla-firefox and mozilla-thunderbird
installed from the packages. However,
On OpenBSD 4.1 xorg open display on 1400x1050.
but failed on 4.2 and open 1280x1024
Messages on Xorg.0.log
(II) MGA(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (hsync out of range)
(II) MGA(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (hsync out of range)
Solution on xorg.conf:
Section "Monitor"
#Option
Hi Matthieu,
On 09/12/2007, Matthieu Herrb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How is this performed?
>
> Option "AccelMethod" "XAA" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, in the "Device" section.
> But if you're running with my commit of yesterday in the intel driver,
> you're probably running with XAA already.
I'm
NetOne - Doichin Dokov wrote:
>
> In fact, we use also a bit more complicated BGP setup. Don't know if it
> would be in any help for you
>
Doichin, your practical, "hands-on" examples are "true gold" for me, really.
Again, thank you very much for your help.
My router/firewalls, after your "tun
* Marc Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-08 17:55]:
> and the convention should be that * means 0.0.0.0 for IPv4 only
> stacks and :: for dual or IPv6 stacks.
that is incredibly stupid, and no, that is not the convention.
--
Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BS Web Services,
Edd Barrett wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 09/12/2007, Owain Ainsworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In general, if anyone is seeing some oddness in X, please try setting
>> the acceleration method to XAA instead of EXA. Please forward all
>> problems to matthieu and myself. dmesgs and xorg.{conf,log} apprec
Hi,
On 09/12/2007, Owain Ainsworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In general, if anyone is seeing some oddness in X, please try setting
> the acceleration method to XAA instead of EXA. Please forward all
> problems to matthieu and myself. dmesgs and xorg.{conf,log} appreciated.
>
How is this perfor
In general, if anyone is seeing some oddness in X, please try setting
the acceleration method to XAA instead of EXA. Please forward all
problems to matthieu and myself. dmesgs and xorg.{conf,log} appreciated.
Thanks and regards,
-0-
--
Now and then an innocent person is sent to the legislature.
On 2007/12/08 22:12, Predrag Punosevac wrote:
>
> I also have a question to about HPLIP. I noticed following messages on
> Linux Printing web-site
>
> hplip/hpijs since 2.7.10 IS NOT OPEN SOFTWARE anymore.
>
> It downloads BINARY LIBRARIES and FIRMWARE automatically.
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root rick 42 N
On 2007/12/09 00:26, Predrag Punosevac wrote:
> Did you mean all the packages that made into 4.3 current ports tree will
> be in 4.3 release. I am just aware of
> 4.2 release, 4.2 stable and 4.3 current (of course there is 4.1 release
> and stable branch)?
We have 4.2-release, 4.2-stable, 4
Jake Conk wrote:
>
> I am able to change the MTU of my nic card where my carp address is
> binded to to 9000 but when I try to change the mtu on the carp
> interface I get this error, "ifconfig: SIOCSIFMTU: Invalid argument".
>
Hi Jake.
Best of my knowledge (I'm just an OpenBSD user), by looking
It seems to me that there is some kind of problem that sometimes emerges
in the queues of PF. I know this is a terrible "bug submission", but
this is a problem that I'm not able to systematically reproduce.
Here it is the description I can give:
We have an OpenBSD 4.2-stable amd64 with two sk
Ultimately it doesn't really matter but I love top posting because it
goes with the flow of using email. Usually when people hit reply they
start toping at the top of the email, not the bottom just because
thats about how most of the world uses email and you can keep the
other email replies
On 8-Dec-07, at 10:57 PM, STeve Andre' wrote:
On Sunday 09 December 2007 00:27:01 badeguruji wrote:
Hello,
Is there anything on OpenBSD like the one below for
FreeBSD. It presents material very clearly and
cleanly, makes look freebsd very attractive.
http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/7.
On Sunday 09 December 2007 02:26:26 Predrag Punosevac wrote:
> > If a port has made its way into -current, it will be there when -current
> > turns into the next -release version. Thus all the new additions in
> > 4.2-current will be in 4.3.
> >
> > However, not all software packages in the port
On 12/8/07, STeve Andre' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Really, you want to do a lot of reading on the web site. Do that
> and you'll get good idea of what OpenBSD is "about".
>
That being said, there's nothing stopping anyone from running their
own benchmarks.
-aaron.glenn
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