Re: BSD PPPoA Hardware

2005-08-24 Thread Shane J Pearson
Hi Jared, On 25/08/2005, at 1:55 PM, jared r r spiegel wrote: the thread has kinda gone this way already, but i believe the only way you can get true "i don't have NAT" on PPPoA, outside of getting a "business class" service plan (or anything else with static IP WAN and LAN allocatio

Re: 3.8 snapshot laptop sleep issues

2005-08-24 Thread Jan Johansson
"Will H. Backman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Running today's snapshot on an old laptop (Dell Latitude PPL), > and I put the cover down to see if it would go to sleep and > wake up properly. After it went to sleep, I opened the laptop > back up, and it started to come back alive, but the screen >

Re: 3.8 beta requests

2005-08-24 Thread Shane J Pearson
Hi Art, On 24/08/2005, at 9:38 PM, Artur Grabowski wrote: Genadijus Paleckis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Theo de Raadt wrote: Oh well -- we've decided that we will try to ship with this protection mechanism in any case, and try to solve the problems as we run into them. Is that means

Re: BSD PPPoA Hardware

2005-08-24 Thread jared r r spiegel
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 09:55:50PM -0600, jared r r spiegel wrote: > take a phone cord coming in and an ethernet cord going out. > > it's possible > > i suppose > there could be a please forget this train of thought. > > it may be possible to use OpenBSD as a > > *replacement* for t

Re: BSD PPPoA Hardware

2005-08-24 Thread jared r r spiegel
On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 01:54:46AM -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote: > On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 08:20:33 +0100, Simon Farnsworth > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >On Tuesday 16 August 2005 06:34, J.C. Roberts wrote: > >> You seem to be confused on your terms. The term "PPPoA" means > >> Point-to-Point Protoco

Re: RSS feed for errata

2005-08-24 Thread Gerardo Santana Gómez Garrido
2005/8/24, Ray Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 01:03:04AM -0500, Gerardo Santana Gsmez Garrido wrote: > > 2005/8/24, Gerardo Santana Gsmez Garrido <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > This has been discussed before. I think many people here agree this > > > would be very useful. Some

Re: /usr/share/pf/ suggestion

2005-08-24 Thread Uwe Dippel
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 08:53:33 -0700, Bryan Irvine wrote: > Apache of course! ;) This goes off-topic, but there must be something wrong. Somewhere. This is not default behaviour of Apache. Did some research on this two years back, on OpenBSD, P233 and 64 MB, to check its behaviour. It wouldn't cras

Re: OpenBSD T1 router hang

2005-08-24 Thread Sean Knox
Sean Knox wrote: Hi, We had 2 T1 routers freeze a couple days ago and I'm left scratching my head as to why. There was no kernel panic or error message on either console, though both consoles were frozen- neither responded to the keyboard. I rebooted both boxes and they came up fine. The inte

Re: OpenBSD T1 router hang

2005-08-24 Thread Abraham Al-Saleh
It's interesting, I got those same messages on my router with the same sangoma card, my secondary router was down at the time for other reasons, so I don't know if it would have had the same issue. However, as far as I can tell, it continued to operate appropriately. Just as a reminder, you need t

Re: IPsec / routing problem in OpenBSD 3.7

2005-08-24 Thread j knight
--- Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2005/08/25 at 01:20 +0200: (can you try wrap your lines at a reasonable 72 chars?) > No, the rl0 gateway (PC_B) is 192.168.3.254. Client1 is .3.70, PC_B's > internal network is, of course, 192.168.3.0/24. Oops, I should've seen that 3.70 was an ARP entry. It'

OpenBSD T1 router hang

2005-08-24 Thread Sean Knox
Hi, We had 2 T1 routers freeze a couple days ago and I'm left scratching my head as to why. There was no kernel panic or error message on either console, though both consoles were frozen- neither responded to the keyboard. I rebooted both boxes and they came up fine. The interesting log snipp

Re: IPsec / routing problem in OpenBSD 3.7

2005-08-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> --- Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2005/08/24 at 18:35 +0200: > > 1) From Client1, I cannot ping its default gateway (.3.254) anymore. No > > ping replies. ssh connection is frozen. > > What machine and interface is .3.254 on? From the information below it does > not look like it's on PC_B.

Re: raid kernel

2005-08-24 Thread Henning Brauer
* Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-08-24 13:16]: > Edd Barrett wrote: > > Is there any reason why we can not include a raid enabled kernel in > > the distribution? (not as default, but in the same way bsd.mp is). > > I believe this would save me (and others?) time when upgrading OpenBSD > > machines

Re: /bsd: arp: ether address is broadcast for IP address

2005-08-24 Thread Stuart Henderson
--On 25 August 2005 01:42 +0300, Chris wrote: I get the message /bsd: arp: ether address is broadcast for IP address xxx.xxx.xx.xxx excerpt from arp(4) ('man 4 arp'): arp: ether address is broadcast for IP address %s! ARP requested infor- mation for a host, and received an answer i

Re: 3.8 beta requests

2005-08-24 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 11:10:41AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > > A few things that get bitten are some packages doing their own and very > > > different memory management, but can't avoid malloc altogether. > > > That is ports/lang/clisp, that seems to be also gprolog > > Can you describe how

Re: package installation script hints

2005-08-24 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 04:35:13PM -0400, Will H. Backman wrote: > 1. Packages get installed in a sub-optimal order. Quite often one > package on the list will have already been installed as a dependency. I > think my script downloads the redundant package before deciding that it > was already in

/bsd: arp: ether address is broadcast for IP address

2005-08-24 Thread Chris
I get the message /bsd: arp: ether address is broadcast for IP address xxx.xxx.xx.xxx The box is a 3.6 Stable if that helps can someone have a clue whats wrong? Or for what to look for? The box is up for almost a year and still have no problems. # ifconfig -A lo0: flags=8049 mtu 33224

Re: ftp.openbsd.org

2005-08-24 Thread Nico Meijer
Hey -f, > what is happening with ftp.openbsd.org? > it stalls the downloads every couple of minutes. > anybody else experiencing this? Not me. I use a nearby mirror: http://www.openbsd.org/ftp.html. ;-) ... Nico

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 negative free space (?WTF?)

2005-08-24 Thread John Kintaro Tate
Yeah, I just figured it must be some bizarre bug, mainly because I find it hard to belive I used up all my space in a few hours from using one, also because I am running a snapshot. If I had an even bigger brain (which I don't) I would have actually remembered about the negative space thing which I

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 negative free space (?WTF?)

2005-08-24 Thread Tobias Weingartner
On Thursday, August 25, John Kintaro Tate wrote: > > Hrm, I was installing the mono port and I ran into an error. The error > was simple and we all know what it means. > > Trying 62.243.72.50... > Unimplemented command. > 61% |**| 8922 KB04:55

package installation script hints

2005-08-24 Thread Will H. Backman
I'm looking for hints and criticism for a package installation script. I do a full install, and then install a set of packages. To get the list of packages to install on another machine, I just grabbed a directory listing from /var/db/pkg, put them in my script, and then run that script on a fresh

a Medida de Sus Necesidades

2005-08-24 Thread Programacion . de . PC
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Re: 3.8 beta requests

2005-08-24 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hello! On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 12:57:27PM -0500, Andrew Dyer wrote: >It was very frustrating to try and make things better and get ignored. I can share some frustration. About a year ago, I made a port for erlang (the "current" port just doesn't work at all, and it's ancient anyway, so *anything*

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-08-24 Thread Ryan Corder
Diana Eichert wrote: > Bob Sidhu has always been very helpful to me in the past. Iron Systems > even helped me out in one of the hardware fundraisers I did or maybe they > actually provided hardware, gee I can't remember. I too have been getting quotes from them the past few days. Although I can

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 negative free space (?WTF?)

2005-08-24 Thread Frank Bax
At 02:21 PM 8/24/05, John Kintaro Tate wrote: Hrm, I was installing the mono port and I ran into an error. The error was simple and we all know what it means. Trying 62.243.72.50... Unimplemented command. 61% |**| 8922 KB04:55 ETA /: write

Re: IPsec / routing problem in OpenBSD 3.7

2005-08-24 Thread j knight
--- Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2005/08/24 at 18:35 +0200: > 1) From Client1, I cannot ping its default gateway (.3.254) anymore. No ping > replies. ssh connection is frozen. What machine and interface is .3.254 on? From the information below it does not look like it's on PC_B. PC_B is .3.70.

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 negative free space (?WTF?)

2005-08-24 Thread Timothy Donahue
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 03:25 pm, John Kintaro Tate wrote: > Okay. > > I am wondering where all the space nicked off to, since I only > installed it not long ago. I havn't run out of space on a system for a > long time, how do I figure out what the biggest files and stuff are > again? > > Thank

ftp.openbsd.org

2005-08-24 Thread -f
hi there, what is happening with ftp.openbsd.org? it stalls the downloads every couple of minutes. 53% [==> ] 19,162,576 6.98K/s ETA 38:08 and just hangs. then starts again, then hangs... anybody else experiencing this? -f -- it takes about ten years to

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 negative free space (?WTF?)

2005-08-24 Thread Ray Percival
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 08:56:32PM +0200, Erik Wikstrvm wrote: > On 2005-08-24 20:21, John Kintaro Tate wrote: > >Hrm, I was installing the mono port and I ran into an error. The error > >was simple and we all know what it means. > > > >Trying 62.243.72.50... > >Unimplemented command. > > 61% |

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 negative free space (?WTF?)

2005-08-24 Thread Greg Thomas
On 8/24/05, John Kintaro Tate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hrm, I was installing the mono port and I ran into an error. The error > was simple and we all know what it means. > > Trying 62.243.72.50... > Unimplemented command. > 61% |**| 8922 KB

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 negative free space (?WTF?)

2005-08-24 Thread John Kintaro Tate
Okay. I am wondering where all the space nicked off to, since I only installed it not long ago. I havn't run out of space on a system for a long time, how do I figure out what the biggest files and stuff are again? Thanks in advance. Kintaro. On 8/25/05, Bryan Irvine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 negative free space (?WTF?)

2005-08-24 Thread Darrin Chandler
It's in the FAQ, specifically http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#NegSpace John Kintaro Tate wrote: Hrm, I was installing the mono port and I ran into an error. The error was simple and we all know what it means. Trying 62.243.72.50... Unimplemented command. 61% |

Re: proper way to format/use floppies (i386)

2005-08-24 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 16:13:08 +0200, Michael Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Jonathan Schleifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Michael Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > which is the right or preferred way to do so (since there are, as >> > I pointed out several possible ways). >> >> I already a

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 negative free space (?WTF?)

2005-08-24 Thread Bryan Irvine
> WTF is going on here? -30.6M sounds kinda weird. Yup it's true. OpenBSD has put everything in the FAQ. http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#NegSpace :-) --Bryan

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 negative free space (?WTF?)

2005-08-24 Thread Sigfred Håversen
John Kintaro Tate wrote: [snip] So I did the next thing that comes naturally, I aborted and did a df -h... # df -h FilesystemSizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/wd0a 787M778M -30.6M 104%/ WTF is going on here? -30.6M sounds kinda wei

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 negative free space (?WTF?)

2005-08-24 Thread Mathias Wegner
> Hrm, I was installing the mono port and I ran into an error. The error > was simple and we all know what it means. > > Trying 62.243.72.50... > Unimplemented command. > 61% |**| 8922 KB04:55 > ETA > /: write failed, file system is full > >

Re: isakmp vpn configuration

2005-08-24 Thread j knight
--- Quoting Daniel Eyholzer on 2005/08/24 at 08:33 +0200: > Yes, I have tried to filter on VPN client ip addresses on the enc0 > interface. This works, but the problem is that not all users should be > allowed to do the same things. Since the VPN client ip address can be > chosen arbitrary on the

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 negative free space (?WTF?)

2005-08-24 Thread Erik Wikström
On 2005-08-24 20:21, John Kintaro Tate wrote: Hrm, I was installing the mono port and I ran into an error. The error was simple and we all know what it means. Trying 62.243.72.50... Unimplemented command. 61% |**| 8922 KB04:55 ETA /: write fa

Re: Problems with pf+nat+some websites

2005-08-24 Thread Bryan Irvine
> > nice try, but i Don't use pppoe. > > We have a DSL-Router from our providewr and as I mentioned before, we > > had no Problems with the cisco-router doing the firewall job (Nat). > > so, yes you DO use PPPoE. Not necessarily, it could be in bridged mode. --Bryan

Re: 3.8 snapshot laptop sleep issues

2005-08-24 Thread Will H. Backman
> -Original Message- > From: Dave Feustel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 2:29 PM > To: Will H. Backman > Cc: misc@openbsd.org > Subject: Re: 3.8 snapshot laptop sleep issues > > On Wednesday 24 August 2005 12:31, Will H. Backman wrote: > > Running today's snap

Re: 3.8 snapshot laptop sleep issues

2005-08-24 Thread Dave Feustel
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 12:31, Will H. Backman wrote: > Running today's snapshot on an old laptop (Dell Latitude PPL), and I put > the cover down to see if it would go to sleep and wake up properly. > After it went to sleep, I opened the laptop back up, and it started to > come back alive, but

OpenBSD 3.8 negative free space (?WTF?)

2005-08-24 Thread John Kintaro Tate
Hrm, I was installing the mono port and I ran into an error. The error was simple and we all know what it means. Trying 62.243.72.50... Unimplemented command. 61% |**| 8922 KB04:55 ETA /: write failed, file system is full So I did the next thi

Re: 3.8 beta requests

2005-08-24 Thread Andrew Dyer
> The real problem is people who encounter a problem and fail to report > it. They just think "this is crap" and go on to something else. I think the developers need to address the problems that get brought up, too. I took the time to post a complete bug report (good and failing dmesg) about a b

Re: Problems with pf+nat+some websites

2005-08-24 Thread Matty
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Nick Holland wrote: Guido Tschakert wrote: Jonathan Schleifer wrote: I don't see where you set the MTU/MSS? Are you sure you have set them somewhere else? eBay is known to have problems with bad/wrong MTU/MSS. Try adding scrub out on $ext_if max-mss 1414 to your pf.conf an

Re: LSI Logic Ultra320 Scsi Raid Card

2005-08-24 Thread Marco Peereboom
If you guys care about this diff making 3.8 I suggest that someone sends me some feedback. /marco On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 12:19:11PM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote: > Note that pcidevs_data.h and pcidevs.h are part of the diff. I did this for > easy patching and testing. > > Give it a go and let

3.8 snapshot laptop sleep issues

2005-08-24 Thread Will H. Backman
Running today's snapshot on an old laptop (Dell Latitude PPL), and I put the cover down to see if it would go to sleep and wake up properly. After it went to sleep, I opened the laptop back up, and it started to come back alive, but the screen stayed blank. I couldn't switch virtual consoles. Rese

Online Banking and Bill Pay Deactivation Notice

2005-08-24 Thread Bank of the West
[IMAGE] Dear eTimeBanker Customer, This is your official notification from Bank Of The West that the service(s) listed below will be deactivated and deleted if not renewed immediately. Previous notifications have been sent to the Billing Contact assigned to this account. As the Prima

Re: 3.8 beta requests

2005-08-24 Thread Theo de Raadt
> > A few things that get bitten are some packages doing their own and very > > different memory management, but can't avoid malloc altogether. > > That is ports/lang/clisp, that seems to be also gprolog > > Can you describe how these programs manage to seg fault doing their > memory management? H

IPsec / routing problem in OpenBSD 3.7

2005-08-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello! I'm having troubles with IPsec, but I'm not really sure whether it's an IPsec issue, a routing problem or just that I'm missing something big, very big... So any help is more than welcome! Here's the setup: PC_A is acting as a NAT gateway with three network cards. sis0 goes to an

Re: 3.8 beta requests

2005-08-24 Thread Dave Feustel
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 10:56, Marc Espie wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 08:09:36AM -0500, Dave Feustel wrote: > > On Wednesday 24 August 2005 07:04, Hannah Schroeter wrote: > > > > > A few things that get bitten are some packages doing their own and very > > > different memory management, b

Re: Complete disk disaster

2005-08-24 Thread Matty
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Stuart Henderson wrote: --On 24 August 2005 10:37 +0200, Ramiro Aceves wrote: pciide0:0:1: bus-master DMA error: missing interrupt, status=0x61 wd1a: device timeout reading fsbn 1489200 of 1489200-1489203 (wd1 bn 1489263; cn 1477 tn 7 sn 6), retrying wd1: soft error (corre

Re: 3.8 beta requests

2005-08-24 Thread John Kintaro Tate
On 8/25/05, -f <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hmm, on Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 09:23:27AM -0700, Raymond Lillard said that > > Maybe a slogan along the lines of, "Is your software good enough > > for OpenBSD"!! Perhaps it could be worked into the release's > > theme. > > that is truly a brilliant idea

Re: 3.8 beta requests

2005-08-24 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 08:09:36AM -0500, Dave Feustel wrote: > On Wednesday 24 August 2005 07:04, Hannah Schroeter wrote: > > > A few things that get bitten are some packages doing their own and very > > different memory management, but can't avoid malloc altogether. > > That is ports/lang/clisp,

Re: /usr/share/pf/ suggestion

2005-08-24 Thread Bryan Irvine
> What crashed? Apache or OpenBSD? > Apache of course! ;)

Re: stupid wifi question

2005-08-24 Thread Reyk Floeter
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 05:41:15PM +0300, slack _usr wrote: > First of all, I'm sorry for such stupid question. I know, that I need > few details, but I can't figure out what are they. I'm plaing with > Intel(r) PRO/Wireless2200BG wifi card and it's configuration. I have > found different descripti

Re: stupid wifi question

2005-08-24 Thread Will H. Backman
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > slack _usr > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 10:41 AM > To: misc@openbsd.org > Subject: stupid wifi question > > Hi everyone, > > First of all, I'm sorry for such stupid question. I know, that I need

Re: proper way to format/use floppies (i386)

2005-08-24 Thread Michael Adam
Spruell, Darren-Perot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there any reason to use FFS on a floppy? Won't FAT (-12, or whatever) > work fine? Could you just mformat it and be along? Yes, in fact there are: 1. As a matter of principle. 2. I need the FFS file permissions and ownerships on the floppy.

Re: /usr/share/pf/ suggestion

2005-08-24 Thread eric
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 09:15:48 -0400, Timothy Donahue proclaimed... > "A Good Thing"(TM) when done correctly, it is NAT that is not necessarily a > good thing. Filtering incoming (and possibly outgoing traffic) helps do > several things, first it decreases the burden on your hosts. It also all

Re: proper way to format/use floppies (i386)

2005-08-24 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hello! On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 07:57:55AM -0700, Spruell, Darren-Perot wrote: >[...] >Is there any reason to use FFS on a floppy? Won't FAT (-12, or whatever) >work fine? Could you just mformat it and be along? Of course there is. Just take a look at the boot floppies, for example. Or think of t

Re: /usr/share/pf/ suggestion

2005-08-24 Thread Jason Crawford
On 8/24/05, Bryan Irvine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I personally like to 'pass keep state' with a 'scrub all' rule. This > > at least gives me some interesting statistics to poke at when I'm > > bored. Plus, I can firewall who gets to ssh into my machine. > > Another good use is {max-src-state

stupid wifi question

2005-08-24 Thread slack _usr
Hi everyone, First of all, I'm sorry for such stupid question. I know, that I need few details, but I can't figure out what are they. I'm plaing with Intel(r) PRO/Wireless2200BG wifi card and it's configuration. I have found different descriptions for the /etc/dhclient.conf file. I have read "iwi"

Re: proper way to format/use floppies (i386)

2005-08-24 Thread Spruell, Darren-Perot
From: Michael Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > What puzzles me even more is the fact, that in the boot > "Absolute OpenBSD" > by Michael W. Lucas, it is said on page 310, that "FFS file > systems need > a valid partition table on every disk" and then the author > desribes the > following steps:

Re: 3.8 beta requests

2005-08-24 Thread -f
hmm, on Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 09:23:27AM -0700, Raymond Lillard said that > Maybe a slogan along the lines of, "Is your software good enough > for OpenBSD"!! Perhaps it could be worked into the release's > theme. that is truly a brilliant idea ;-) any artists here? make a "designed for puffy" log

Re: pf + malformed packets

2005-08-24 Thread Mike Frantzen
> is there a possibility to tell pf.conf to accept malformed packets. turn off 'reassemble tcp' in your scrub rule if you don't want to validate the packets. > pfctl -x loud tells me: > Aug 24 09:50:43 gw-bonn /bsd: pf_normalize_tcp_stateful: Did not receive > expected RFC1323 timestamp > 09:50

Re: /usr/share/pf/ suggestion

2005-08-24 Thread Stuart Henderson
--On 24 August 2005 07:10 -0700, Bryan Irvine wrote: They were very low bandwidth, but there went all available connections. Low-bandwidth is often worse if it's a dynamic website (especially if it needs a lot of RAM to service a connection), placing an http-accelerator in front can sometime

Re: /usr/share/pf/ suggestion

2005-08-24 Thread Ray Percival
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 09:15:48AM -0400, Timothy Donahue wrote: > On Tuesday 23 August 2005 11:58 pm, eric wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 16:53:25 -0600, Theo de Raadt proclaimed... > > > > > It is plain simple bad advice. And totally ridiculous. > > > > And plus, with ipv6, it's imperative tha

Re: Problems with pf+nat+some websites

2005-08-24 Thread Steve Williams
Nick Holland wrote: Guido Tschakert wrote: Jonathan Schleifer wrote: I don't see where you set the MTU/MSS? Are you sure you have set them somewhere else? eBay is known to have problems with bad/wrong MTU/MSS. Try adding scrub out on $ext_if max-mss 1414 to your pf.conf and adding -mtu

Re: 3.8 beta requests

2005-08-24 Thread Will H. Backman
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Diana Eichert > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 10:08 AM > To: Miscellaneous OBSD > Subject: Re: 3.8 beta requests > > On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Damien Miller wrote: > > > Remember that most of the develop

Re: /usr/share/pf/ suggestion

2005-08-24 Thread Bryan Irvine
> I personally like to 'pass keep state' with a 'scrub all' rule. This > at least gives me some interesting statistics to poke at when I'm > bored. Plus, I can firewall who gets to ssh into my machine. Another good use is {max-src-states ##} for webservers and the like. I have a webserver that w

Re: /usr/share/pf/ suggestion

2005-08-24 Thread Will H. Backman
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Bryan Irvine > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 10:11 AM > To: Misc OpenBSD > Subject: Re: /usr/share/pf/ suggestion > > > I personally like to 'pass keep state' with a 'scrub all' rule. This > > at lea

Re: Problems with pf+nat+some websites

2005-08-24 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Guido Tschakert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW. this morning I tried the suggestions from Jonathan and it didn't > work :-( This is normal. I thought you use the OpenBSD Box for PPPoE and NAT directly, not through another router, which is a hardware box. I noticed in the past that hardware ro

Re: proper way to format/use floppies (i386)

2005-08-24 Thread Michael Adam
Jonathan Schleifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > which is the right or preferred way to do so (since there are, as > > I pointed out several possible ways). > > I already answered that before: > Jonathan Schleifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Floppies u

Re: 3.8 beta requests

2005-08-24 Thread Diana Eichert
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Damien Miller wrote: > Remember that most of the developers run -current throughout the > development cycle (often in production). > > -d and Theo get's really pissed off when someone breaks the tree so it won't compile and/or the change creates disfunction in other parts of

Re: /usr/share/pf/ suggestion

2005-08-24 Thread Timothy Donahue
On Tuesday 23 August 2005 11:58 pm, eric wrote: > On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 16:53:25 -0600, Theo de Raadt proclaimed... > > > It is plain simple bad advice. And totally ridiculous. > > And plus, with ipv6, it's imperative that the filters be pushed down to the > end-host so we can quit relying on stup

Re: 3.8 beta requests

2005-08-24 Thread Dave Feustel
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 08:04, Hannah Schroeter wrote: > Hello! > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 08:02:54AM -0500, Dave Feustel wrote: > >On Wednesday 24 August 2005 07:04, Hannah Schroeter wrote: > >> I *am* a bit sad about the fact that there're no running Lisp > >> implementations for OpenBSD >

Re: 3.8 beta requests

2005-08-24 Thread Dave Feustel
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 07:04, Hannah Schroeter wrote: > A few things that get bitten are some packages doing their own and very > different memory management, but can't avoid malloc altogether. > That is ports/lang/clisp, that seems to be also gprolog Can you describe how these programs mana

Re: Nagios: Premature end of script headers

2005-08-24 Thread Matteo Mancini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Look at this http://www.mand4la.info/index.php/NagiosObsd I've wrote this doc in italian, bat the code is the same :P BTW..try to lunch apache with -u "httpd -u" Bye Matteo Joco Salvatti wrote: > Hi all, > > I installed and configured Nagios on m

Re: 3.8 beta requests

2005-08-24 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hello! On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 08:02:54AM -0500, Dave Feustel wrote: >On Wednesday 24 August 2005 07:04, Hannah Schroeter wrote: >> I *am* a bit sad about the fact that there're no running Lisp >> implementations for OpenBSD >Does (X)emacs work? Yes, but I meant (and neglected to say explicitly

Re: proper way to format/use floppies (i386)

2005-08-24 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Michael Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, as I wrote above, I know about the fdformat program, > and low level formatting is actually not what my question > was aimed at -- it was aimed at the disklabel / filesystem > level of formatting. But this may have got lost in my overly > long email

Re: 3.8 beta requests

2005-08-24 Thread Dave Feustel
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 07:04, Hannah Schroeter wrote: > I *am* a bit sad about the fact that there're no running Lisp > implementations for OpenBSD Does (X)emacs work? -- Tired of having to defend against Malware? (You know: trojans, viruses, SPYWARE, ADWARE, KEYLOGGERS, rootkits, worms an

Re: 3.8 beta requests

2005-08-24 Thread Damien Miller
Genadijus Paleckis wrote: Theo de Raadt wrote: Oh well -- we've decided that we will try to ship with this protection mechanism in any case, and try to solve the problems as we run into them. Is that means that 3.8 might be unstable ? Maybe all who wants/needs stable systems need to run 3.7

Re: Complete disk disaster

2005-08-24 Thread Alexandre Ratchov
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 12:53:45PM +0200, Ramiro Aceves wrote: > > Yes!, I am using a 40 GB (aprox 4 years old) as master, and 1GB (around > 10) as slave. Cable is 40-conductor, I think. Both at the same cable. > hmmm... can you try to put slow devices and fast devices on separate cables. by slo

Re: Problems with pf+nat+some websites

2005-08-24 Thread Guido Tschakert
Nick Holland wrote: Guido Tschakert wrote: Jonathan Schleifer wrote: I don't see where you set the MTU/MSS? Are you sure you have set them somewhere else? eBay is known to have problems with bad/wrong MTU/MSS. Try adding scrub out on $ext_if max-mss 1414 to your pf.conf and adding -mtu 1454 t

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-08-24 Thread Johan P . Lindström
On 7/27/05, Matthew Bettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > Can anyone recommend a decent rack server from HP, Dell, IBM or CDW > that will run OpenBSD for webserver use? I would prefer a machine > that has SCSI drives with Mirror Raid capabilities. I know I can go > piecemeal one from

Re: 3.8 beta requests

2005-08-24 Thread Han Boetes
Artur Grabowski wrote: > Genadijus Paleckis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Theo de Raadt wrote: > > > Oh well -- we've decided that we will try to ship with this > > > protection mechanism in any case, and try to solve the > > > problems as we run into them. > > > > Is that means that 3.8 might be

Re: raid kernel

2005-08-24 Thread Simon Slaytor
One point in favour of a GENERIC RAID Kernel(s), consider when a user posts the following request for help: 'I've compiled my own kernel and Xyz is broken' Now after being on the mailing list for a quite a while I know the stock answer always seems to be 'drop back to GENERIC and stop playing

Re: 3.8 beta requests

2005-08-24 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2005/08/24 14:28:25, Genadijus Paleckis wrote: > well, from base system side I gues it will be minimal problems, but what > about ports ? because almost everyone using it. If software segfaults because of this, it's because it's already doing something wrong, and it could already be giving unp

Re: 3.8 beta requests

2005-08-24 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hello! On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 02:28:25PM +0300, Genadijus Paleckis wrote: >[...] >>>Is that means that 3.8 might be unstable ? Maybe all who wants/needs >>>stable systems need to run 3.7 ? >well, from base system side I gues it will be minimal problems, but what >about ports ? because almost e

Re: Complete disk disaster

2005-08-24 Thread Ramiro Aceves
Alexandre Ratchov wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 10:37:46AM +0200, Ramiro Aceves wrote: > >>First, thank you very much for your interesting responses. >> >>Yesterday in the evening I installed OpenBSD again on the same disk, >>just to be sure if I could reproduce the errors. Yes!, I did not have

raid controller suggestions

2005-08-24 Thread Didier Wiroth
Hello, Can you recommand a performant scsi raid controller (with external connector as it will be connected to an external HD TOWER !!) for use in an OpenBSD3.7 file server? Many thanks for the any comments/recommendations didier

Re: 3.8 beta requests

2005-08-24 Thread Janne Johansson
Theo de Raadt wrote: Of course not. HOW CAN IT? Get real! The hardware is STILL only providing permissions at the page level! If you have aggressive amounts of ram and/or patience you could have something along the malloc.conf "P"-option for ALL sizes. Of course it would suck for any app mo

Re: 3.8 beta requests

2005-08-24 Thread Artur Grabowski
Genadijus Paleckis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Theo de Raadt wrote: > > > Oh well -- we've decided that we will try to ship with this protection > > mechanism in any case, and try to solve the problems as we run into > > them. > > Is that means that 3.8 might be unstable ? Maybe all who wants/

Re: 3.8 beta requests

2005-08-24 Thread Han Boetes
Genadijus Paleckis wrote: > Theo de Raadt wrote: > > Oh well -- we've decided that we will try to ship with this > > protection mechanism in any case, and try to solve the > > problems as we run into them. > > Is that means that 3.8 might be unstable ? Maybe all who > wants/needs stable systems nee

Re: 3.8 beta requests

2005-08-24 Thread Genadijus Paleckis
Antonios Anastasiadis wrote: No,it is clear that he is talking about the problems *other* people's (buggy) software will have. On 8/24/05, Genadijus Paleckis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Theo de Raadt wrote: Oh well -- we've decided that we will try to ship with this protection mechanism in a

Re: raid kernel

2005-08-24 Thread Edd Barrett
> For one, what if you don't want "RAID_AUTOCONFIG"? > It would save YOU time if we set the options you needed. If not, it > would cause more complaints about "how could you chose such an option?" True > > Further, it would probably need to be TWO new kernels -- bsd.raid and > bsd.raid.rd, as y

Re: raid kernel

2005-08-24 Thread Nick Holland
Edd Barrett wrote: > Hi there, > > Is there any reason why we can not include a raid enabled kernel in > the distribution? (not as default, but in the same way bsd.mp is). > > I believe this would save me (and others?) time when upgrading OpenBSD > machines. > > The kernel would need static dev

Re: Problems with pf+nat+some websites

2005-08-24 Thread Nick Holland
Guido Tschakert wrote: > Jonathan Schleifer wrote: >> I don't see where you set the MTU/MSS? Are you sure you have set them >> somewhere else? eBay is known to have problems with bad/wrong MTU/MSS. >> Try adding scrub out on $ext_if max-mss 1414 to your pf.conf and adding >> -mtu 1454 to the route.

Re: Complete disk disaster

2005-08-24 Thread Ramiro Aceves
Alexandre Ratchov wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 10:37:46AM +0200, Ramiro Aceves wrote: > >>First, thank you very much for your interesting responses. >> >>Yesterday in the evening I installed OpenBSD again on the same disk, >>just to be sure if I could reproduce the errors. Yes!, I did not have

Re: 3.8 beta requests

2005-08-24 Thread Antonios Anastasiadis
No,it is clear that he is talking about the problems *other* people's (buggy) software will have. On 8/24/05, Genadijus Paleckis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Theo de Raadt wrote: > > > Oh well -- we've decided that we will try to ship with this protection > > mechanism in any case, and try to sol

Re: 3.8 beta requests

2005-08-24 Thread Genadijus Paleckis
Theo de Raadt wrote: Oh well -- we've decided that we will try to ship with this protection mechanism in any case, and try to solve the problems as we run into them. Is that means that 3.8 might be unstable ? Maybe all who wants/needs stable systems need to run 3.7 ?

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