Hi, Frankie. You can go to
http://www.fda.gov/cder/ndc/database/default.htm and all the NDC numbers
are there. You can look them up or there are files you can download and
use in a database. HTH.
Jeff Thompson
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
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Just a followup. We are MAGIC 5.61 PP 4 and we are not having these
issues. I tried several scenarios and all seemed to work correctly.
Jeff Thompson, RPH
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, Kansas
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Hi, Richard. I've attached an NPR label that we use for our UD labels.
It has 4 lines for dose comments. Hope this helps. Works in MAGIC
5.61.
Jeff Thompson,RPh
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, Kansas 66801
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Yes, we use the AutoPak product. Call me or email with specific
questions. It is heat based and does a good job. Only a few things
can't go through it because of size or "softness". HTH.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
Direct: 620-340-6150
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Charlie and all,
The PENDING function shows up when using Order Sets. (When I noticed
it.) It was added into PHA for POM. Don't see a lot of use since so hard
to change status back to regular.
Here is a quick summary:
Pending Orders Function
Meditech has created an enhancement to allow Orders to
We are using the E4203. I think it uses the same as the big ones.
Jeff Thompson
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, Kansas
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Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:36 PM
To: meditech-l@mtusers.com
Subje
Hi, Alison. We are using them here. You are welcome to call if you
have questions. Look on the MUSE website under the International MUSE
2007 papers and you will find my presentation, "Are you Allergic to the
New Allergy Model" from there. Talks all about it.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharma
Well, the only way I can think of is to enter the order for the 14-day
span (start and stop) and then copy and edit it 11 times to cover the
whole year. (MAGIC)
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
Direct: 620-340-6150
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Carla,
We made the conversion to FDB from Medispan last summer and we have no
problems. Was a good move for us. We did it so we could use the new
MAGIC allergy model. Call if you have questions.
Jeff Thompson, RPh
Project Manager/Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Direct Phone:
We are MAGIC 5.6 PP4 with FirstDataBank. If I understand your question
correctly, you might be talking about Hyzaar 100/25 which FDB would
strength as each for dose checking, etc. In these situations I edit the
drug ID and that shows everywhere that I have found. It seems to work
well for us. I
Here is what we came up with for our Discharge portion. It pulls in the
current hospital meds, the home meds (from a NUR CDS) and then gives a
section for doc to write the new scripts and give to patient for their
pharmacy. In our state, it is valid for controlled medications. We are
MAGIC 5.6 PP
Try this. I think it is set for any cumulative charges for 1 item
during an admit over $1000. We use this to try and catch billing
errors. Hope this helps.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
Direct: 620-340-6150
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You don't say if you are MAGIC or C/S. Here is a MAGIC label that has a
vertical barcode on it. We use it with a Datamax E4208. We are MAGIC
5.6 PP4.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
Direct: 620-340-6150
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Hi, Mike. Make sure you do a search on the L. There is a lot of info
there on 5.6.
I'll start the list and others can jump in. One of the most useful
things I found was on the Meditech website there is a PHA 5.6 Training
manual (not bad, I might add) that talks about everything. Something we
Yes, I am in the Pharmacy but work closely with IS.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
Direct: 620-340-6150
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Mundt
Sent: Monday, July
We converted to FirstDataBank last summer and have been very happy. We
converted so we could use the 1B allergy model in MAGIC. HTH.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
Direct: 620-340-6150
From: [EM
As far as I'm aware, there is no reference.
We have a Charge Type set up called Medicare that basically charges
$0.00 on the bill.
HTH.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
Direct: 620-340-6150
From
Pharmacy splits the tablets for Nursing. We enter a new drug entry with a
doseform like "HALFTAB". The NDC is used of the original drug with an "H" on
the end. This works well for us.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
Direct: 620-340-6150
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I just wanted to remind everyone why this is being done. This
"enhancement" will allow Nursing to pick any drug from the Home
Medication function in EDM to allow for interaction/allergy checking on
the inpatient side. Yes, this may not be the best but at least we have
to be amazed that Meditech t
I would try this to try and "isolate" the problem. Take a problem drug.
Scan it using your 2D scanner into the Windows Notepad. See if you get
the letters/numbers.
If so, then enter an order in PHA and where it is asking for the drug
(some place you can scan from!), scan the drug in and see if t
If you are MAGIC, use the new 1B allergy model. Nurses can then enter
coded allergies by calling the RXM routine and every drug is in there
and can be looked up by the Trade name. There is also only one allergy
(no class,generic, etc.) to pick. It is all NDC number based and works
well. We curr
Here is ours. HTH.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
Direct: 620-340-6150
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Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 10:20 AM
To: me
A solution we did here was to make 2 order types for each order type we
needed. Such as IV (from Pyxis) and IVP (from Pharmacy). We then had
the Pyxis interface block all order types ending in P so they wouldn't
show up.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Emporia
We replaced our dot-matrix printer with a thermal Datamax E series
printer. Since that time we have been unable to figure out the right
CPI/LPI to get the canned-text labels clear to the right. We have a
huge space on the right side of the label and the label hangs off the
left side on some. We
Hi, Bill. I've attached a report (main report is ADM.PAT) and LAB frag
that pulls the data you want. Just do a LC for the abnormal SCr or est
CLCr. HTH.
Jeff Thompson, RPh
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS
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Frankie,
There are several. Major one is Pfizer and you will see others. We
found it worth the cost to get 2D because we could have our own
unit-dosing machine use the Datamatrix format which is a tiny barcode
and give us more room to label.
Jeff Thompson
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, Kansas
I would try ((A1:7D/B1:5D)+(0-1))*100 .
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy
Informatics
Newman Regional
Health
Emporia, KS 66801
Direct:
620-340-6150
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Rhodes-Bridges,BarbaraSent: Monday, October 30, 2006 11:10
AMTo: MEDIT
There is no reason that their HL7 engine that makes the messages for
transmission back to Meditech can't block the duplicate ones generated.
Their competitor's product won't do this. Talk to a different interface
engineer if they give you grief. HTH.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
N
We are MAGIC 5.2.3.
I just wrote a NPR to write out a comma-delimited file that I link from MS
Access to manipulate the data. It works fine. I have heard there are
some 3rd-party OBDC (MS Access can directly link to OBDC) drivers that link
to Meditech but I haven't explored them.
We are using Access eForms to print all forms, which includes the
patient data. These are printed at the time they are needed. That way
we have no more embossers and no more NCRs. The order sheets are then
scanned to Pharmacy.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Em
Title: Acudose STAT/NOW orders showing for only a short time??
We
solved this by setting up a SIG of ONE and a order type of ONE. The Pyxis
interface was then altered so when it saw this combination come in the message
it set the DC date 2 hours from start time and set the ONE DOSE flag.
We are MAGIC 5.5.3. We just moved from Medispan to FirstDataBank. We
moved because FirstData was the only vendor that allowed us to move to
the 1B allergy checking. One difference that we have discovered is that
FirstDataBank doesn't included medications that have been discontinued
greater than 2
We currently Deactivate (DA) the order and then Reactivate (RA) when the
doc writes to do so. This allows us to still show the meds on our
medications transfer form as held and give them a chance to order it
when the patient moves around. We also are Pyxis Profile and it shows
as held there, also
Not quite accurate. Our Pyxis 3000 handles the DA (deactivated) and RA
(reactivated) correctly. The drug shows on the patient profile at the
station but shows on on hold and unavailable to take out.
Jeff Thompson
Newman Regional
Emporia, KS
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Yes, all orders are entered in Meditech by pharmacists. No, there is
not another check by another pharmacist.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
Direct: 620-340-6150
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Aimee, it also happens to us sporadically. We have not been able to
figure it out, either. Anyone have ideas?
We are MAGIC 5.5.2.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
Direct: 620-340-6150
From: meditech
We are MAGIC 5.5.2.
Here's how I did it on IV labels:
This is in the field def:
This is in the following line Line format:
I think there is a KB article describing this. Might search the site.
I've also attached the whole label NPR in case I've forgotten something.
Jeff Thom
When I asked this question at Meditech BMV training, they said Meditech
can't do it but 3rd party vendors could do this. HTH.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
Direct: 620-340-6150
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I REALLY think this should be 2 different orders. We do so and then link them
so they are next to each other on the MAR.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
Direct: 620-340-6150
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Here is a report that I use as a header that has that information on it. I use
it out of ADM.PAT and PHA.PAT. I didn't send the LAB frag since you didn't
mention those values.
HTH.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
Direct: 620-340-6150
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Yes, this has been a problem for us and we haven't been able to find the
common thread causing it. Let me know if you hear something.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
Direct: 620-340-6150
From: medit
2 options that I've been told about.
1) (which I have done)
- write a NPR to dump the data down to a comma delimited file and then
link to it from ACCESS
2) iPeople (www.ipeople.com) has software, iPeople Direct, that you
can attach to it as an OBDC database and directly query agains
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
Direct: 620-340-6150
From: Nielacny, Aimee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 7:29 AM
To: Pivonka, Michelle; Thompson, Jeff; Stephanie Roberts;
meditec
Well, Robert, here is an NPR that pulls the fields I need (so far) to do
some of the comparisons you are talking about. It makes a
comma-delimited file that I then link to from MS Acess and run stuff
against. I really would suggest you link so you don't have to import the
data every time you downl
I've attached out IV piggyback label. It has a vertical barcode that
can go whereever I want it by changing the parameters in the VPRINT.
HTH. We are Magic 5.5.2.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
Direct: 620-340-6150
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Here is the rule I use to show that last admined. We are MAGIC 5.5.2.
It pulls from the Nursing query. Set up to pop-up on picking the med in
RX.
HTH.
MNEMONICACT DESCRIPTIONPRINT PRINT STOCK DATA
FLDS POM? EVALUATE
PCI
Here is our version of this. We are MAGIC 5.5.2. We use it on
transfers to and from levels of care. Seems to work well. Really
customized for how our facility works. HTH.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
Direct: 620-340-6150
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Ave census of 65 and Nursing takes the initial home meds then Pharmacy
does the rest.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
Direct: 620-340-6150
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Seamless. No problems. Just make sure that all your "custom" interface
message manipulations are recoded in the new PIE.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
Direct: 620-340-6150
From: meditech-l@MTUs
We are MAGIC 5.5.2. Here is a report that does what you want and maybe
a little more.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
Direct: 620-340-6150
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The only way I've found that is easiest for is I just keep a patient
open in another screen and enter the drug on the patient and see what
the charge is without saving. HTH.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
Direct: 620-340-6150
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We did the switch late last summer. Had very few issues. Went well and
are very happy with the switch. The only "issue" was the difference in
route dictionary mnemonics such as, Medispan inhalation = "IN" and
FirstDataBank inhalation = "IH". Our main reason for wanting to switch
was so we could
I'll looking at Taper orders and realized that the correct dose was not
printing correctly. Only the "first" dose was correct and that printed
over the life of the order, not the "tapered" dose. This is
unacceptable since it will lead to dosing errors. Here is my reponse
from Meditech about it:
We are MAGIC 5.5.2. We use 1 dictionary since we use perpetual
inventory and using the NONFORM dictionary does not support that.
Jeff Thompson
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
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Sent
Here is a header that I use in PHA that pulls in some of what you want
and the LAB frag that pulls it. HTH.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
Direct: 620-340-6150
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We use VFS ver 2.2.99 and the speed is very nice. I have a 23-tab view
and all tabs load in 15 seconds. However, the first tab is available in
3 seconds and the rest fill in. This is very acceptable for the return
on value.
BTW, it makes a difference if you are in TEST and haven't run a PHA
Susan,
I'm going to respectfully disagree. Speaking from Kansas regulations,
the technician could not make the "judgmental decision" of which order
is appropriate for the patient. Granted identical orders are easy but
many times they are not the same orders. It is the pharmacists that
should ma
Hi, Susan. Go and look at KB article 16856 under the RW application
stuff on meditech.com. I used those codes and it worked for me.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
Direct: 620-340-6150
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I'm needing to put the character "V" in a barcode. MAGIC has the
BAR.CODE and CODE.128 formats. According to some documentation on 128 I
should be able to do this but it will not be as compressed. I can only
get the BAR.CODE to print the V on my labels. Any ideas?
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
P
Hi, Patti. Move to the new 1B allergy model. We MAGIC 5.5.2 (testing
5.6.1). This allows everyone to share the same coded allergy database
and moves it out of PHA to the MIS dictionaries. Works well. We are
with FirstDatabank which does make a difference on availability. Feel
free to call if
Hi, Charlie. Check out the Symbol MC70s. I think they will do
everything you ask for if configured correctly.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
Direct: 620-340-6150
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Move to the new MAGIC 1B allergy model. There is no more
class/generic/drug allergies. There is one dictionary in MIS that would
have caught it. We moved to it last fall and it is so much easier to
use. Another bonus is that Nursing and PHA and ER can share the same
database. Call if you have q
Here is a report that takes stuff from where you want. It calculates
total acetaminophen by patient for a certain time span. HTH.
We are MAGIC 5.5.2.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
Direct: 620-340-6150
Fr
Assuming that you are accurately changing the AWP as they come on the
invoice, there have been SIGNIFICANT reductions in AWP over the last 5
years. Some companies have gotten in trouble for "inflating" the AWP so
they are getting more realistic. If you have FirstDataBank, make sure
you are using
Yes, it shows up frequently. Do a search of the L and you will find a
thread from several months back. These are configured in the
Custom-defined Parameters with several flags that will limit this
somewhat. You need to add the REV function to the pharmacist ACCESS so
the can REView these and cle
Hi, Julie. We did this last January on MAGIC 5.5.2.
PHA must build a TXN rule. Then on the BAR side, they must do something
to pull it in as we present it to them. There is a knowledgebase
article (#18890) on the PHA side that explains it. A query in MIS also
needs to be set up.
Jeff Thompso
Hi, Janice. We are MAGIC 5.5.2.
When we moved to the 1B allergy model for MAGIC, all the environmental
and food allergies were loaded in from FirstData into the MIS Allergen
dictionary and available for use in the modules. HTH.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Hi, Charlie. Respectfully, I'm going to disagree. I think the lookup
is the Brand name of the drug. This makes it easier for non-pharmacy
users to be more exact. I've noticed that if the strength is included in
the Brand name it seems to be there. I do realize that not having DCN
100 doesn't fit
They have access to override. We have a separate override group just for
them. House moms also can override the meds. We monitor to make sure
only in emergent situations.
Jeff Thompson,RPh
Newman Regional Health
Emporia,KS
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We use it here. PHA to MM.PHA. These is little maintenance in Meditech
on the PHA side once you get it going. However there is considerable
time spent on tracking low cost items and reconciling. You can not use
NONFORMULARY dictionary in PHA because it does not support perpetual.
Your IV labels
See in line below.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
Direct: 620-340-6150
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Of Dale, Diane
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 3:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PR
Hello. We use Micromedex. It is available from any computer having
internet access.
In my opinion, it has everything you would want to know about the drug
but is very hard to find the details. The structure is not user
friendly nor intuitive. I would look hard at the alternatives.
Jeff Thom
Hi, Tara. Very easy switch and didn't take long at all. Some lessons
learned here. Meditech can run a utility to "purge" the Medispan data.
However, they are breaking the ties to things. The allergies still
reside on all the drugs just don't do anything because they are purged
in other places.
Hi, Tom. Have your Pyxis engineer block the admission update messages
in their Pyxis interface. (A08's) Ours is set to block all A08's with
an Admit date plus 72 hours less then current time. HTH.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
Direct: 620-340
I agree with Cindy. I think a "new" status showing DCDU would be
useful. The order disappearing with a cancel would seem to be a lot
more work. Autoverifying of the order seems just plain dangerous. Just
my 2 cents.
Jeff Thompson
Newman Regional Health
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We are. Currently MAGIC 5.5.2 going to 5.61 in June. You are welcome to
call or email your questions and I'll try to help. You won't find many
that do this.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, KS 66801
Direct: 620-340-6150
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Try this:
AL BEFORE.PRINT D(27)_"&l3X"^!
Changing the 2 to a 3 will change the number of copies. The rest is PCL
code which is th
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Jiten,
Here is a report that has that in there plus a whole bunch more. We use
this to screen our Pharmacy patients daily. Note
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Sorry, list. I forgot to include the frags for the report so I am
resending the report and frags. These are Magic 5.5SR3. Worked
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Here is a rule we use. It is attached in the CDPs to our Outpatient
Pharmacy facility. It changes as your expect.
Rule Dictionary
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Here is ours:
Mnemonic AGELT2YO Last Edited by PHA.JDT
Date 05/03/2006-0758
Active? Y
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This is one of my biggest "gripes" about MediTech. There are so many
screens to hit enter through. I went to a talk and the lectur
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One thing we ran in to here for pills, was that the 2D format used by
some of them had to be "turned on" in the scanner. The defaul
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We are not a 24-hour Pharmacy.
Nursing handwrites the MAR until Pharmacy opens in the morning.
Remember that they only need to write
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We are going last of July but we are working on the barcoding now.
We use the Accupak software that came with our packager that put
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In Magic 5.5.2:
It would be part of the MAR label format found in the Custom Defined
Parameters on page 4 bottom right. I would pu
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Bob,
We set up a separate drug item in the drug dictionary for 1/2 tabs, etc.
We are perpetual inventory so we do have to do a "move
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We had no problem when we did the same conversion. My suggestion is get
with your Pyxis interface engineer. The first place I would
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Chuck,
Do you get the numbers but then the screen just sits there? If so, you
need to do a scan of the configuration barcode that t
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We had this problem when Nurses were "visiting" the patient back to
their floors to be able to document on them. Meditech applied a
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We are currently seriously looking at Intellidot for BMV use. Anyone
have any stories they's like to share about it? Email or phon
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Anyone have a detailed BMV Request for Proposal that they are willing to
share? Thanks.
Jeff Thompson, R.Ph.
Pharmacy Informatics
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Here is a header we use on the Patient Profile during order entry. It
also has several other things on it that you may find useful.
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We use Pyxis and everything goes through there. The other thing we did
that was really helpful was to put a display for the ER trac
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Anyone figured out how to get the drug profile list for a patient on
Order Processing in PHA to sort by the additive instead of the
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You don't say what printer or software but
For Datamax printers and MAGIC, KB article 16856 fixed the problem here.
Basically
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If anyone has implemented or looked at Carefusion BMV product with
Magic, would you please contact me by phone or email to discuss t
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Please post to list.
Jeff Thompson
Newman Regional Health
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Here is our list of overrides that have accumulated over 10 years.
ALLY Allergy Noted and Assessed - Continue as
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