Re: [marxmail] The US ban on Chinese EV's

On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 07:22 PM, Travis Reid wrote: > > The key words are "democratic rights" of which there is little in China, > where workers cannot organize and withhold production for better pay and > working conditions. True. But it is only in the advanced capitalist democracies that work

[marxmail] Austria: Rally and Concert in in Remembrance of the Nakba

*Austria: Rally and Concert in in Remembrance of the Nakba* /Report (with Photos and Videos) from a Rally in Vienna on 15 May 2024, Austrian Section of the RCIT**/ https://www.thecommunists.net/rcit/rcit-activities-in-2024-part-2/#anker_8 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive

Re: [marxmail] The US ban on Chinese EV's

Mark, you may the only one on the list who took my comment seriously.  I found Charlie's concern for democratic rights touching in view of his enthusiastic support for Mao and Stalin whose regimes, rest assured, I do not consider to have been exemplars of proletarian democracy. Neither is Xi's,

Re: [marxmail] The US ban on Chinese EV's

> On May 20, 2024, at 5:04 PM, Marv Gandall via groups.io > wrote: > > I am kidding. Like you, I believe Mao's China and Stalin's Soviet Union were > the closest approximation to proletarian democracy the world has ever seen, When did China have independent trade unions? And Stalin's sovie

Re: [marxmail] The US ban on Chinese EV's

"How to characterize the Chinese state (and USSR before it) has always been contested and based on differing conceptions of socialism and capitalism, but we can agree on the need to support working class struggles for democratic rights wherever they occur." - Marv The key words are "democratic

[marxmail] Ocean water is rushing miles underneath the ‘Doomsday Glacier’ with potentially dire impacts on sea level rise

Thwaites, which already contributes 4% to global sea level rise, holds enough ice to raise sea levels by more than 2 feet. But because it also acts as a natural dam to the surrounding ice in West Antarctica, scientists have estimated

Re: [marxmail] The US ban on Chinese EV's

On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 03:39 PM, Charlie wrote: > > You gotta be kidding I am kidding. Like you, I believe Mao's China and Stalin's Soviet Union were the closest approximation to proletarian democracy the world has ever seen, and such limited but necessary repression which existed was  mainly

Re: [marxmail] The US ban on Chinese EV's

"less to do with a more repressive state apparatus than with what surveys have shown to be a higher level of popular satisfaction with the political leadership and system"  -- You gotta be kidding. * Remember the sudden PRC end to its draconian COVID lockdowns without adequate preparation f

Re: [marxmail] The US ban on Chinese EV's

On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 12:37 PM, Charlie wrote: > > China today is the first capitalist country to carry out most of its > industrialization after a socialist period. Yes, that affects the form of > Chinese capitalism. It is more vicious and more repressive than classic > bourgeois democracies.

Re: [marxmail] The US ban on Chinese EV's

Marv gives us a series of erroneous factual assertions with no proof. "the key industries are mostly state-owned" Just not true. We went through the facts in previous threads. "private corporations are subordinate to the ruling party rather than the other way round as in Western capitalism" Capi

Re: [marxmail] The US ban on Chinese EV's

On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 08:47 AM, Charlie wrote: > > Michael Roberts is full of positive features in his "explanation" of > China's success at monopoly capitalism. Charlie and most others on the list insist China is capitalist, so I must consider it as well. If so, it is indisputably the most a

[marxmail] China on death of Iran's Raisi

AFP: What is the Chinese government’s reaction to the death of the Iranian President? Foreign Ministry spokesperson Wang Wenbin replied: President Xi Jinping has sent a message of condolences to Iran’s First Vice-President Mohammad Mokhber President Raisi made important contribution to ensur

Re: [marxmail] The US ban on Chinese EV's

Perhaps of interest to fans of China's socialism is its vigorous invocation of free market principles. For example: The global industrial and supply chains are shaped and developed by the laws of market and business choices combined. Any deliberate intervention to instrumentalize and weaponize

[marxmail] By Sam Gindin: " A Generational Challenge: Taming Amazon, Renewing Labour

By Sam Gindin at the Socialist Project.ca site of "The Bullet" : Fairly detailed and to me anyway, sound analysis. It starts as follows: "within this ferment were also groups of (mainly) young socialists, small in numbers but large in ambition, who came to more clearly grasp the limits of an elec

[marxmail] Environmentalism from Below: A conversation

Global people’s movements are leading the fight for our planet May 20, 2024: A conversation with Ashley Dawson, author of Environmentalism from Below https://climateandcapitalism.com/2024/05/20/global-peoples-movements-are-leading-the-fight-for-our-planet/ Ian Angus Editor, Climate & Capitalism h

Re: [marxmail] Nakba Day 2024: The Struggle Continuous until All of Palestine is Free!

> On May 13, 2024, at 6:11 PM, RKOB via groups.io > wrote: > > Nakba Day 2024: The Struggle Continuous until All of Palestine is Free! We had several hundred people gather in Portland, Oregon US: https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2024/05/portlanders-protest-occupation-of-palestine-commemo

[marxmail] The ‘NYTimes’ finally publishes a comprehensive indictment of ‘Jewish terrorism’ against Palestinians

The New York Times has astonished its readers by publishing a long indictment of a subject it has purposely ignored for years: “Jewish terrorism” against Palestinians. https://mondoweiss.net/2024/05/the-nytimes-finally-publishes-a-comprehensive-indictment-of-jewish-terrorism-against-palestinians/

Re: [marxmail] Ny times today

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/20/briefing/bipartisanship-congress-neopopulism.html?unlocked_article_code=1.tU0.I7N_.C-934XGL3O1B&smid=url-share ( https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/20/briefing/bipartisanship-congress-neopopulism.html?unlocked_article_code=1.tU0.I7N_.C-934XGL3O1B&smid=url-share )

Re: [marxmail] Ny times today

Is it behind a pay wall? Gary On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 11:05 PM Michael Meeropol via groups.io wrote: > Fascinating article on front page of NY Times today. “New Centrism” > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#30419): h

Re: [marxmail] The US ban on Chinese EV's

Good am Mark. Coincidentally (Or not! Of course all Leftists are following this at least to some extent) - today, Michael Roberts on his blog - carries a piece on the same general area, and focusing on the Chinese state's investment in higher tech infra-structure.  It refers back - correctly - t

Re: [marxmail] Some interesting DDR images, and potentially some names to follow-up of artists.

Thank you hari. Vlad Inviato da iPhone > Il giorno 20 mag 2024, alle ore 07:38, hari kumar via groups.io > ha scritto: > > An impractical exhibition review for those not near Berlin - but a flavour > perhaps of the artistic milieu in former East Germany. > https://mlrg.online/art/exhibi