Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Microsoft Contact Available?

On 15/9/2015 12:12 πμ, Michael Wise wrote: Sooner or later, your discussions will end there, and the ticketing will begin. There is **NO** way around it; Microsoft Legal has been very clear on the matter. This is interesting, I was just instructed by my server provider to contact del...@m

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Microsoft Contact Available?

If it's Hotmail that is blocking you, my advice stands. If it's"protection.outlook.com" which is a different entity entirely, then delist@ is the way to proceed, yes. Aloha, Michael. -- Sent from my Windows Phone From: G. Miliotis

Re: [mailop] msn/outlook blacklist advice

On 2015-09-14 09:06, G. Miliotis wrote: So the issue remains, what *is* the correct way to migrate to a new IP that's been blacklisted by MS and how long should it take? As a similarly low volume sender, I've never found any real trick other than signing up for every feedback loop in sight (I

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Microsoft Contact Available?

I’m not sure why you cannot have an autoresponder behind the abuse@/postmaster@ with a link in it, to a ticket, containing the info sent in the first place. See abuse.io for example. The rest is just ‘resistance’ in being able to solve issues. David Hofstee Deliverability Management MailPlus

Re: [mailop] Delivery to btinternet.com / cpcloud.co.uk

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 01:05:28PM -0400, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > That's part of it, sure. But having working RFC 2152 role addresses, RFC 2142, sorry for the typo. ---rsk ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org http://chilli.nosignal.org/mailman/lis

Re: [mailop] Protection Outlook..

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 12:00:01PM -0700, Michael Peddemors wrote: > Monitoring from ISP's and Telco's has always shown a lot of leakage > from the servers called.. > > mail-pu1apc01hn0200.outbound.protection.outlook.com I've seen a noticeable uptick in (obvious) spam from the following similarly

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Microsoft Contact Available?

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 09:49:50AM +0200, David Hofstee wrote: > I’m not sure why you cannot have an autoresponder behind the > abuse@/postmaster@ with a link in it, to a ticket, containing > the info sent in the first place. See abuse.io for example. I got ~2,000 spam mails to our abuse address i

Re: [mailop] Protection Outlook..

> On Sep 15, 2015, at 7:14 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > > I've seen a noticeable uptick in (obvious) spam from the following > similarly-named servers in the last 60 days: You left off mail-bn1hn0247.outbound.protection.outlook.com Return-Path: Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.ou

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Microsoft Contact Available?

On 15-09-15 05:27 AM, Matthew Newton wrote: On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 09:49:50AM +0200, David Hofstee wrote: I’m not sure why you cannot have an autoresponder behind the abuse@/postmaster@ with a link in it, to a ticket, containing the info sent in the first place. See abuse.io for example. I go

[mailop] Comcast Block - Request Assistance

Hello, Is there someone from Comcast that would be able to message me off-list to help in resolving a consistent block we're seeing on our IPs? I'd like to take corrective action on the offending sender(s) and help in identifying would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Justin Frechette iContact ___

Re: [mailop] Protection Outlook..

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 2015-09-15 at 08:50 -0500, Chris Boyd wrote: > You left off mail-bn1hn0247.outbound.protection.outlook.com > Return-Path: > Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail- > bn1hn0247.outbound.protection.outlook.com [157.56

Re: [mailop] Comcast Block - Request Assistance

Justin, > Is there someone from Comcast that would be able to message me off-list to > help in resolving a consistent block we're seeing on our IPs? I'd like to > take corrective action on the offending sender(s) and help in identifying > would be greatly appreciated. Please contact me offlist

Re: [mailop] Protection Outlook..

Um, No.[tm] I pointed out the header and value to safely write a rule for the traffic way down thread, and you've chosen to ignore my advice. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Orig

[mailop] Microsoft sending multiple Message-ID headers in password reset links..

Return-Path: Delivered-To: Received: from bay004-omc1s25.hotmail.com (HELO BAY004-OMC1S25.hotmail.com) (65.54.190.36) by with (AES256-SHA256 encrypted) SMTP (7e98ec56-5b63-11e5-9f23-001e67492cec); Mon, 14 Sep 2015 21:37:40 -0700 Received: from CY1SCH030011851 ([65.54.190.59])

Re: [mailop] Microsoft sending multiple Message-ID headers in password reset links..

Is this truly having an immediate negative impact operationally? It seems like this could be feedback you could give them directly, offlist, without having to share it with the rest of us. On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Michael Peddemors wrote: > [...] -- Al Iverson | Minneapolis, MN | (312)

Re: [mailop] Protection Outlook..

About the only way to report it that won't get ignored (presupposing this didn't wind up in the mailbox of a HotMail, AOL, Yahoo, or similar service that we have an ARF-based Feedback Loop with) is via SpamCop. Seriously,

Re: [mailop] Microsoft sending multiple Message-ID headers in password reset links..

I'm considering unsubing from the list. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Al Iverson Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Microsoft Contact Available?

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 01:27:03PM +0100, Matthew Newton wrote: > I got ~2,000 spam mails to our abuse address in the last three > months - so about 8,000 a year. I get about one legitimate mail per year. > > I'm sure that doesn't easily scale when you get to the size of the > big mail providers,

Re: [mailop] Protection Outlook..

I am not ab...@microsoft.com I do not get those emails. You will get *ZERO* satisfaction by complaining at them because their job is not to handle those kinds of complaints. I do not have any control over what happens over there at all. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analys

Re: [mailop] Microsoft sending multiple Message-ID headers in password reset links..

Michael Wise wrote: > I'm considering unsubing from the list. That would be a great loss. Anne ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org http://chilli.nosignal.org/mailman/listinfo/mailop

Re: [mailop] Protection Outlook..

> On Sep 15, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Michael Wise wrote: > > About the only way to report it that won't get ignored (presupposing this > didn't wind up in the mailbox of a HotMail, AOL, Yahoo, or similar service > that we have an ARF-based Feedback Loop with) is via SpamCop. Yes, this is

[mailop] Security contacts needed for libero.it / tin.it / alice.it / tiscali.it / virgilio.it / fastwebnet.it / email.it

Please contact me offlist at Neil Schwartzman set of compromised user credentials. ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org http://chilli.nosignal.org/mailman/listinfo/mailop

Re: [mailop] Microsoft sending multiple Message-ID headers in password reset links..

On 15/09/15 18:24, Al Iverson via mailop.org wrote: Is this truly having an immediate negative impact operationally? It seems like this could be feedback you could give them directly, offlist, without having to share it with the rest of us. Very funny. Feedback to where? Their 1st line su

Re: [mailop] Microsoft sending multiple Message-ID headers in password reset links..

No, it doesn't. After all, technically Message-ID is an optional field. I bitch and moan about that, but nobody cares... They all end up pointing to, "SHOULD", and I can't really do anything but :'( And the information is not pertinent. If this ML is going to become a forum for reporting spam, I

Re: [mailop] Microsoft sending multiple Message-ID headers in password reset links..

> On Sep 15, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Steve Freegard wrote: > > > On 15/09/15 18:24, Al Iverson via mailop.org wrote: >> Is this truly having an immediate negative impact operationally? It >> seems like this could be feedback you could give them directly, >> offlist, without having to share it with t

Re: [mailop] Microsoft sending multiple Message-ID headers in password reset links..

Hi, the archives will quickly tell you the list never was such and thus isn't likely to become one. there's enough value in the list - varying of course by your definition of value. If I were you, I'd stick around the list, perhaps answer a bit less or only when you find things interesting. As a

Re: [mailop] Microsoft sending multiple Message-ID headers in password reset links..

On 15-09-15 11:44 AM, Michael Wise wrote: No, it doesn't. After all, technically Message-ID is an optional field. I bitch and moan about that, but nobody cares... They all end up pointing to, "SHOULD", and I can't really do anything but :'( And the information is not pertinent. If this ML is g

Re: [mailop] Microsoft sending multiple Message-ID headers in password reset links..

On 15/09/15 19:44, Michael Wise via mailop.org wrote: No, it doesn't. After all, technically Message-ID is an optional field. I bitch and moan about that, but nobody cares... They all end up pointing to, "SHOULD", and I can't really do anything but :'( Yeah - it might say SHOULD, but it's exp

Re: [mailop] Microsoft sending multiple Message-ID headers in password reset links..

I’ve been on the list for a while, no need to consult archives. But the recent threads I have found … disconcerting. Yes, there’s a lot of angst, mostly about things that we can’t typically do anything about; those are not topics we should be discussing. Things that can be dealt with, especially

Re: [mailop] Microsoft sending multiple Message-ID headers in password reset links..

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 10:06:31PM +0300, Gil Bahat wrote: > If I were you, I'd stick around the list, perhaps answer a bit less or only > when you find things interesting. …maybe adding a couple of lines to one's killfile(s)… I think it's vital -- for the mail ecosystem -- that there are represe

Re: [mailop] Microsoft sending multiple Message-ID headers in password reset links..

Multiple Message-ID/id headers for MSA mails has been brought to the right people’s (as far as I know) attention. From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Michael Wise Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 12:23 PM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Microsoft sending mult

Re: [mailop] Microsoft sending multiple Message-ID headers in password reset links..

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Steve Freegard wrote: > > On 15/09/15 18:24, Al Iverson via mailop.org wrote: >> >> Is this truly having an immediate negative impact operationally? It >> seems like this could be feedback you could give them directly, >> offlist, without having to share it with th

Re: [mailop] Microsoft sending multiple Message-ID headers in password reset links..

On 16/09/2015 04:44, Michael Wise wrote: If this ML is going to become a forum for reporting spam, I'm gone. Having been here for few years now, I have to say it does seem to be getting worse, this aint anyone's support channel, and perhaps this needs to be entered into the charter! Cheer

Re: [mailop] pobox.com contact?

On 2015-09-14 at 17:42 +, Phil Pennock wrote: > If there's > anyone from pobox reading, could you please reply off-list to me? The problem has now been resolved, we have access back. Thanks, -Phil __

Re: [mailop] Microsoft sending multiple Message-ID headers in password reset links..

Hi Michael, At 11:44 15-09-2015, Michael Wise wrote: No, it doesn't. After all, technically Message-ID is an optional field. I bitch and moan about that, but nobody cares... They all end up pointing to, "SHOULD", and I can't really do anything but :'( It is recommended to add a "Message-ID" f