Greetings,
* Slavko via mailop (mailop@mailop.org) wrote:
> Dňa 25. februára 2024 3:10:51 UTC používateľ Philip Paeps via mailop
> napísal:
>
> >Not being able to present information in the Subject: or body clearly isn't
> >ideal, but it's better than breaking DKIM. List-* headers have been i
It appears that Benny Pedersen via mailop said:
>Ken O'Driscoll via mailop skrev den 2024-02-25 21:38:
>> Outlook has supported list-unsubscribe for at least a year, if not
>> longer. But, it's an add-on you need to proactively install so...
>
>waiting for roundcube, since squirrelmail have had th
On Sun, 25 Feb 2024, Ken O'Driscoll wrote:
Outlook has supported list-unsubscribe for at least a year, if not longer.
But, it's an add-on you need to proactively install so...
I'm looking at the list of add-ins and I don't see it. Maybe it's Windows
only and I'm on a Mac?
R's,
John
It app
On 2/24/24 11:23, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. via mailop wrote:
Not to mention that Federal law requires a one-step unsubscribe method.
My understanding is that the requirement is scoped to the 1st party
recipient of messages subject to the requirement. I bet that the same
requirement doesn't ext
Ken O'Driscoll via mailop skrev den 2024-02-25 21:38:
Outlook has supported list-unsubscribe for at least a year, if not
longer. But, it's an add-on you need to proactively install so...
waiting for roundcube, since squirrelmail have had this as a plugin,
just not roundcube, hmp :=)
Outlook has supported list-unsubscribe for at least a year, if not longer.
But, it's an add-on you need to proactively install so...
Ken.
On Sun, Feb 25, 2024, 19:47 John Levine via mailop
wrote:
> It appears that Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop said:
> >Yes. I'm looking at you, thunderbird...
It appears that Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop said:
>Yes. I'm looking at you, thunderbird...
>
>This should be a no-brainer, and it's a shame that the major open source MUA
>doesn't seem to support it. There's
>probably an add-on to do this, I just can't access the thunderbird add-on
>search at
Dňa 25. februára 2024 3:10:51 UTC používateľ Philip Paeps via mailop
napísal:
>Not being able to present information in the Subject: or body clearly isn't
>ideal, but it's better than breaking DKIM. List-* headers have been in
>widespread use for over twenty years.
The bad part is, that eg.
Am 25.02.24 um 04:10 schrieb Philip Paeps via mailop:
It's actually encouraging to see the web-MUAs driving improvement in this space. Parsing List-Unsubscribe: to present
a button feels like a very obvious thing to do. It's surprising how few traditional MUAs have ever done that.
Yes. I'm
On 2/24/2024 5:25 PM, Philip Paeps via mailop wrote:
On the whole, I think not meddling with the body (and not breaking
DKIM) provides an improved mailing list experience. We don't have to
rewrite the From: header, and "reply" works the way the poster
intends. Neither the mailing list softwa
On 2024-02-25 09:48:23 (+0700), Dave Crocker wrote:
On 2/24/2024 5:25 PM, Philip Paeps via mailop wrote:
On the whole, I think not meddling with the body (and not breaking
DKIM) provides an improved mailing list experience. We don't have
to rewrite the From: header, and "reply" works the way t
On 2024-02-24 04:39:46 (+0700), Mark Fletcher via mailop wrote:
I run an email groups hosting service. For many years now, each group
message has included a one click unsubscribe link in the message
footer. We
also include appropriate
List-Unsubscribe-Post: List-Unsubscribe=One-Click
headers.
Dnia 24.02.2024 o godz. 13:16:45 Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. via mailop pisze:
>
> pointing out that Federal law mandates a one-step method; completely
Not everybody is located in the USA, and "federal" law has no meaning to
those who don't.
> two-step method, even though a one-step is implicit in th
IMHO, and I’m not a lawyer like Anne, but I think in common language what she
is trying to explain.
Like in GDPR which makes it so you can decline cookie data, that link is just
one cookie, and they give us the option to decline other cookies but necessary
or leave the site all together. Is thi
> On Feb 24, 2024, at 12:41 PM, Andrew C Aitchison
> wrote:
>
> Do you read "visiting a single Internet Web page"
> as excluding interaction with that page ?
>
> If so, how do I provide my opt-out preferences by ...
> "visiting a single Internet Web page" ?
A strict construction of that lang
>
> You're confusing unrelated things. The one-click unsubscribe is
> literally one click, no intermediate web page or anything returned to
> the user. It's intended for mail systems that do the unsub on the
> user's behalf. The most familiar is Gmail, where you can click the
> junk button, and
On Sat, 24 Feb 2024, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. via mailop wrote:
Not to mention that Federal law requires a one-step unsubscribe method.
As I often seem to get challenged on this, here is the text of the law:
"§ 316.5 Prohibition on charging a fee or imposing other
requirements on recipients who
It appears that Marco Moock via mailop said:
>Am Fri, 23 Feb 2024 13:39:46 -0800
>schrieb Mark Fletcher via mailop :
>
>> My question to you all is, do you think that the
>> List-Unsubscribe=One-Click header is supported well enough these days
>> such that I can replace the one-click unsub link in
It appears that Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. via mailop said:
>
>
>> On Feb 23, 2024, at 4:59 PM, John Levine via mailop
>> wrote:
>>
>> 'd leave the links in the bodies for now. A lot of mail programs give
>> you a way to use the ones in the header, but some major ones like
>> Outlook still don't.
>
> On Feb 23, 2024, at 4:59 PM, John Levine via mailop wrote:
>
> 'd leave the links in the bodies for now. A lot of mail programs give
> you a way to use the ones in the header, but some major ones like
> Outlook still don't.
Not to mention that Federal law requires a one-step unsubscribe meth
Am Fri, 23 Feb 2024 13:39:46 -0800
schrieb Mark Fletcher via mailop :
> My question to you all is, do you think that the
> List-Unsubscribe=One-Click header is supported well enough these days
> such that I can replace the one-click unsub link in the message
> bodies with a link that requires auth
According to Andy Smith via mailop :
>Hi,
>
>On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 01:39:46PM -0800, Mark Fletcher via mailop wrote:
>> My question to you all is, do you think that the List-Unsubscribe=One-Click
>> header is supported well enough these days such that I can replace the
>> one-click unsub link in
On 2/23/24 15:25, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop wrote:
You may want to give your subscribers the option of having a one-click
unsubscribe link in every message (with a properly worded warning that
forwarding such a link is risky) versus a monthly mailing list reminder
which contains a link to
Am 24.02.24 um 00:12 schrieb Mark Fletcher via mailop:
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 3:09 PM Jay Hennigan via mailop
wrote:
There are many systems that scan links in email and falsely unsubscribe.
I'd make it two-click. When clicked, have it go to a page that says:
You are about to uns
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 3:44 PM Mark Fletcher via mailop
wrote:
>
> My question to you all is, do you think that the List-Unsubscribe=One-Click
> header is supported well enough these days such that I can replace the
> one-click unsub link in the message bodies with a link that requires
> authe
On 2/23/24 15:12, Mark Fletcher wrote:
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 3:09 PM Jay Hennigan via mailop
mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote:
There are many systems that scan links in email and falsely
unsubscribe.
I'd make it two-click. When clicked, have it go to a page that says:
You ar
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 3:09 PM Jay Hennigan via mailop
wrote:
>
> There are many systems that scan links in email and falsely unsubscribe.
> I'd make it two-click. When clicked, have it go to a page that says:
>
> You are about to unsubscribe [address] from mailing list [name of list].
> Are you
On 2/23/24 13:39, Mark Fletcher via mailop wrote:
Hi All,
I run an email groups hosting service. For many years now, each group
message has included a one click unsubscribe link in the message footer.
We also include appropriate
List-Unsubscribe-Post: List-Unsubscribe=One-Click
headers. The
Hi,
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 01:39:46PM -0800, Mark Fletcher via mailop wrote:
> My question to you all is, do you think that the List-Unsubscribe=One-Click
> header is supported well enough these days such that I can replace the
> one-click unsub link in the message bodies with a link that require
Hi All,
I run an email groups hosting service. For many years now, each group
message has included a one click unsubscribe link in the message footer. We
also include appropriate
List-Unsubscribe-Post: List-Unsubscribe=One-Click
headers. The problem with including a one-click unsubscribe link in
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