On 2024-02-25 09:48:23 (+0700), Dave Crocker wrote:
On 2/24/2024 5:25 PM, Philip Paeps via mailop wrote:
On the whole, I think not meddling with the body (and not breaking DKIM) provides an improved mailing list experience.  We don't have to rewrite the From: header, and "reply" works the way the poster intends.  Neither the mailing list software nor the recipient has to guess.

Sounds like a win.

Generally, whatever is typically put in the footer can reasonably be move to a header field, although of course that means users will typically not automatically have it presented to them.

A different issue is that it tends to be helpful for the Subject field to show that a mailing list is involved, though that will typically break DKIM...

We also stopped prefixing the Subject: header with information duplicated from the List-Id header.

Not being able to present information in the Subject: or body clearly isn't ideal, but it's better than breaking DKIM. List-* headers have been in widespread use for over twenty years. I hope MUAs will finally start displaying them.

It's actually encouraging to see the web-MUAs driving improvement in this space. Parsing List-Unsubscribe: to present a button feels like a very obvious thing to do. It's surprising how few traditional MUAs have ever done that.

Philip

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Philip Paeps
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Alternative Enterprises
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