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2024-08-28 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
In some countries, the phone seller creates a gmail account and logs into the phone, and the customer never knows the account or password, and yeah, such accounts are definitely disposable. As pointed out, such an account is not actually required to use Android devices, and there are about a billi

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-28 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
I presume some wires are getting crossed. It is true that you can have an Android phone without a Google Login. You can use any phone as 2FA via SMS, including a logged out Android phone. Or any device that supports a VOIP number. Or any device that can run a TOTP authenticator app. None of these

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2024-08-28 Thread Michelle Sullivan via mailop
For me.. the only reason for logging in to Google was to download Syngic and Torque Pro…. The two apps on my remote dashboard. Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ If we don't find a way out of this soon, I'm gonna lose it. Lose it... It means go crazy, nuts, insane, bonzo, no longer in posses

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-28 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 28.08.2024 o godz. 09:11:28 Colin Johnston via mailop pisze: > Google does 2fa to phone or tablet so long as the device has WiFi regardless > of sim And how does it do this, if there's no Google account logged in? -- Regards, Jaroslaw Rafa r...@rafa.eu.org -- "In a million years, when

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-28 Thread Colin Johnston via mailop
Google does 2fa to phone or tablet so long as the device has WiFi regardless of sim Sent from my iPod > On 28 Aug 2024, at 09:03, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: > ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-28 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 27.08.2024 o godz. 22:35:41 Atro Tossavainen via mailop pisze: > > Is this the generic advice that all Android device users should take > in order to ensure they will be able to continue to use the Google > account which is essentially mandatory to have in order to use said > device? If so, h

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-28 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 27.08.2024 o godz. 17:54:05 Colin Johnston via mailop pisze: > Have you tried an normal android phone without a sim as Google should send > the 2fa to that as well as sms ? How do you expect anybody/anything to send a SMS to a phone without a SIM card, which means no phone number and no cell

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-28 Thread Chris via mailop
On 2024-08-27 12:35, Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote: There's life at Google. Just pay for GSuite. Is this the generic advice that all Android device users should take in order to ensure they will be able to continue to use the Google account which is essentially mandatory to have in order t

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-27 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
On 2024-08-27 at 15:35:41 UTC-0400 (Tue, 27 Aug 2024 22:35:41 +0300) Atro Tossavainen via mailop is rumored to have said: >> There's life at Google. Just pay for GSuite. > > Is this the generic advice that all Android device users should take > in order to ensure they will be able to continue to

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-27 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop
> There's life at Google. Just pay for GSuite. Is this the generic advice that all Android device users should take in order to ensure they will be able to continue to use the Google account which is essentially mandatory to have in order to use said device? If so, how come it is not suggested wh

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-27 Thread Bryan Holloway via mailop
I appear to have opened a can of worms here, for which I apologize ... Appreciate everyone's thoughts, and yeah -- it's free, so I'm not expecting much. I think the most irritating aspect of all this, is that I KNOW there is a working Recovery Account tied to the e-mail address we're trying t

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-27 Thread Colin Johnston via mailop
Caveat is were logged in beforehand Sent from my iPod > On 27 Aug 2024, at 18:40, Andrew C Aitchison via mailop > wrote: > ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-27 Thread Andrew C Aitchison via mailop
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024, Colin Johnston via mailop wrote: Have you tried an normal android phone without a sim as Google should send the 2fa to that as well as sms ? How would she add the phone to the account *without* the one-time key she wishes to receive ? -- Andrew C. Aitchison

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-27 Thread Colin Johnston via mailop
It should 2fa if logged into a android tablet or android phone, as well as sms On Tue, 27 Aug 2024, 17:58 Michelle Sullivan, wrote: > I don’t have an android phone.. I have a tablet which I’d have to check > to see if it has a sim slot…(3am here). However you’re saying if I connect > via anothe

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2024-08-27 Thread Michelle Sullivan via mailop
I don’t have an android phone..  I have a tablet which I’d have to check to see if it has a sim slot…(3am here). However you’re saying if I connect via another random/unconnected number it’s going to 2FA to that instead of the one in the account?  (If so that would be even more brain dead…!)Michell

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-27 Thread Colin Johnston via mailop
Have you tried an normal android phone without a sim as Google should send the 2fa to that as well as sms ? Colin On Tue, 27 Aug 2024, 17:39 Michelle Sullivan via mailop, wrote: > You make valid and invalid points…. The trouble is I suspect wires are > crossed. Unless I also got the wrong end

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-27 Thread Michelle Sullivan via mailop
You make valid and invalid points…. The trouble is I suspect wires are crossed.  Unless I also got the wrong end of the stick the OP has a Gmail account they are unable to access.  So you get what you pay for is valid.  My account was for and only for the purchase of an App through Google’s version

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2024-08-27 Thread Slavko via mailop
Dňa 27. augusta 2024 15:25:57 UTC používateľ Bill Cole via mailop napísal: >Freemail accounts are free because they provide no reliable value. This has >been understood by many of us for a quarter century. Their broad acceptance >over the years has masked that fact, but it has not changed. Wh

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-27 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
On 2024-08-27 at 11:11:12 UTC-0400 (Tue, 27 Aug 2024 08:11:12 -0700) Aaron C. de Bruyn via mailop is rumored to have said: I'll pull the pin on this grenade and take the flack, but if you aren't paying, why would you expect support? And if you don't expect support, why would you do *anything*

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-27 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn via mailop
There's life at Google. Just pay for GSuite. I'm not sure if you can run into the same issue if you have one (and only one) GSuite administrator (we always have at least 3), but their support is responsive for paid customers. I'll pull the pin on this grenade and take the flack, but if you aren'

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2024-08-27 Thread Michelle Sullivan via mailop
You assume wrongly.I gave up 5 years ago…. I have not seen any sign of improvement since… only further decline.If there is life at Google that can help I’m listening and will stand corrected, however as I have asked more than one time over the last 7 years in other places as well. I expect more of

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2024-08-27 Thread Marcel Becker via mailop
On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 5:03 AM Michelle Sullivan via mailop < mailop@mailop.org> wrote: My current theory is Google accounts are the latest in a long line of > abandonware > it seems to be run by armatures and marketing people now… >From a personal perspective, if it does all go boom, the loss o