Re: [mailop] What Kind of Return-Path's are these? (A1 Telekom)

2024-08-27 Thread Tapio Peltonen via mailop
On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 at 02:05, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote: > Return-Path: > Hm, isn't the local part supposed to be max 64 characters? That's 112 characters, almost twice the RFC 5321 max length. ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https:

Re: [mailop] What Kind of Return-Path's are these? (A1 Telekom)

2024-08-27 Thread Marco Moock via mailop
Am Tue, 27 Aug 2024 15:59:00 -0700 schrieb Michael Peddemors via mailop : > Return-Path: > > Received: from smtpout06.a1.net (HELO smtpout06.a1.net) (80.75.33.6) > ... > From: "myGov-alert" > Maybe this is special version of bounce verification. Other products also support that: https://www.c

Re: [mailop] What Kind of Return-Path's are these? (A1 Telekom)

2024-08-27 Thread Dave Crocker via mailop
On 8/27/2024 3:59 PM, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote: hey should restrict MAIL FROM to only addresses on their email server? why? d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net mast:@dcrocker@mastodon.social ___ mailop mailing list m

[mailop] What Kind of Return-Path's are these? (A1 Telekom)

2024-08-27 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
Return-Path: Received: from smtpout06.a1.net (HELO smtpout06.a1.net) (80.75.33.6) ... From: "myGov-alert" Anyone know the A1 People? They should restrict MAIL FROM to only addresses on their email server? (IP sending this was on their own networks as well) Should be a reminder to everyon

Re: [mailop] [External] Re: Uptick in Google Groups spam?

2024-08-27 Thread Kevin A. McGrail via mailop
On 8/27/2024 3:59 PM, Michael Rathbun via mailop wrote: The latest Goog.spamflood here has been from the "appsheet" system. Users of this have enough "sudden death" spamtraps in their lists that at any moment at least five of the outgoing IPs are in the penalty bin for at least 24 hours. Agre

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-27 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
On 2024-08-27 at 15:35:41 UTC-0400 (Tue, 27 Aug 2024 22:35:41 +0300) Atro Tossavainen via mailop is rumored to have said: >> There's life at Google. Just pay for GSuite. > > Is this the generic advice that all Android device users should take > in order to ensure they will be able to continue to

Re: [mailop] Uptick in Google Groups spam?

2024-08-27 Thread Michael Rathbun via mailop
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 13:37:17 -0500, Robert Giles via mailop wrote: >On the topic of free services that Google provides (with no support or >abuse contact whatsoever), has anyone else noticed an uptick in Google >Groups spam lately? The latest Goog.spamflood here has been from the "appsheet" sy

Re: [mailop] [External] Uptick in Google Groups spam?

2024-08-27 Thread Kevin A. McGrail via mailop
Robert, Hit me off list for a spample and I'll take a look. Regards, KAM On 8/27/2024 2:37 PM, Robert Giles via mailop wrote: RAPTOR REMARK: Alert! Please be careful! This email is from an EXTERNAL sender. Be aware of impersonation and credential theft. On the topic of free services that Go

Re: [mailop] Uptick in Google Groups spam?

2024-08-27 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
Uptick no.. It's been crazy levels for over a year now... The team has a whole slew of custom filters for this type of spam, it would be easier of course if Google took care of them but.. And there has been several discussions on this and other lists about this type of spam.. You might want t

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-27 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop
> There's life at Google. Just pay for GSuite. Is this the generic advice that all Android device users should take in order to ensure they will be able to continue to use the Google account which is essentially mandatory to have in order to use said device? If so, how come it is not suggested wh

[mailop] Uptick in Google Groups spam?

2024-08-27 Thread Robert Giles via mailop
On the topic of free services that Google provides (with no support or abuse contact whatsoever), has anyone else noticed an uptick in Google Groups spam lately? I'm wondering what SpamAssassin rule to boost, but it seems like this operator has mostly covered their bases? KAM_INFOUSMEBIZ migh

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-27 Thread Bryan Holloway via mailop
I appear to have opened a can of worms here, for which I apologize ... Appreciate everyone's thoughts, and yeah -- it's free, so I'm not expecting much. I think the most irritating aspect of all this, is that I KNOW there is a working Recovery Account tied to the e-mail address we're trying t

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-27 Thread Colin Johnston via mailop
Caveat is were logged in beforehand Sent from my iPod > On 27 Aug 2024, at 18:40, Andrew C Aitchison via mailop > wrote: > ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop

[mailop] maximum header size

2024-08-27 Thread A. Schulze via mailop
Hello, today a became aware of messages deferred by our MX. I could nail down the issue to "all headers excced 64k bytes". This limit was enforced by OpenDKIM [1] Deferring is questionable. I would prefer reject but that's an other story. The messages in question were sent by an MS365 tenant. -

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-27 Thread Andrew C Aitchison via mailop
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024, Colin Johnston via mailop wrote: Have you tried an normal android phone without a sim as Google should send the 2fa to that as well as sms ? How would she add the phone to the account *without* the one-time key she wishes to receive ? -- Andrew C. Aitchison

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-27 Thread Colin Johnston via mailop
It should 2fa if logged into a android tablet or android phone, as well as sms On Tue, 27 Aug 2024, 17:58 Michelle Sullivan, wrote: > I don’t have an android phone.. I have a tablet which I’d have to check > to see if it has a sim slot…(3am here). However you’re saying if I connect > via anothe

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-27 Thread Michelle Sullivan via mailop
I don’t have an android phone..  I have a tablet which I’d have to check to see if it has a sim slot…(3am here). However you’re saying if I connect via another random/unconnected number it’s going to 2FA to that instead of the one in the account?  (If so that would be even more brain dead…!)Michell

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-27 Thread Colin Johnston via mailop
Have you tried an normal android phone without a sim as Google should send the 2fa to that as well as sms ? Colin On Tue, 27 Aug 2024, 17:39 Michelle Sullivan via mailop, wrote: > You make valid and invalid points…. The trouble is I suspect wires are > crossed. Unless I also got the wrong end

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-27 Thread Michelle Sullivan via mailop
You make valid and invalid points…. The trouble is I suspect wires are crossed.  Unless I also got the wrong end of the stick the OP has a Gmail account they are unable to access.  So you get what you pay for is valid.  My account was for and only for the purchase of an App through Google’s version

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-27 Thread Slavko via mailop
Dňa 27. augusta 2024 15:25:57 UTC používateľ Bill Cole via mailop napísal: >Freemail accounts are free because they provide no reliable value. This has >been understood by many of us for a quarter century. Their broad acceptance >over the years has masked that fact, but it has not changed. Wh

Re: [mailop] Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-27 Thread Chris via mailop
On 2024-08-26 22:26, Viktor Dukhovni via mailop wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 06:18:01AM +0200, Bryan Holloway via mailop wrote: The password is correct, but it insists on verification from this user's no longer existing cellphone. Yet the back-up account exists. For some reason gmail refuses

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-27 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
On 2024-08-27 at 11:11:12 UTC-0400 (Tue, 27 Aug 2024 08:11:12 -0700) Aaron C. de Bruyn via mailop is rumored to have said: I'll pull the pin on this grenade and take the flack, but if you aren't paying, why would you expect support? And if you don't expect support, why would you do *anything*

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-27 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn via mailop
There's life at Google. Just pay for GSuite. I'm not sure if you can run into the same issue if you have one (and only one) GSuite administrator (we always have at least 3), but their support is responsive for paid customers. I'll pull the pin on this grenade and take the flack, but if you aren'

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-27 Thread Michelle Sullivan via mailop
You assume wrongly.I gave up 5 years ago…. I have not seen any sign of improvement since… only further decline.If there is life at Google that can help I’m listening and will stand corrected, however as I have asked more than one time over the last 7 years in other places as well. I expect more of

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-27 Thread Marcel Becker via mailop
On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 5:03 AM Michelle Sullivan via mailop < mailop@mailop.org> wrote: My current theory is Google accounts are the latest in a long line of > abandonware > it seems to be run by armatures and marketing people now… >From a personal perspective, if it does all go boom, the loss o

Re: [mailop] Gmail not accepting bounces coming from vacation messages because of null sender and SPF/DKIM

2024-08-27 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
I trust Google to check SPF correctly, and can’t confirm that your system is correct because you’ve redacted any useful information. You’ve been told what to do (publish SPF for the domain in the EHLO value) and you’ve even been given the SPF string that will do it. If you want assistance, don

Re: [mailop] Gmail not accepting bounces coming from vacation messages because of null sender and SPF/DKIM

2024-08-27 Thread Eduardo Diaz Comellas via mailop
Hi Laura, Thanks for your help.  I've captured one of the SMTP transactions: SMTP<< 220 mx.google.com ESMTP ffacd0b85a97d-37308269cdfsi4917634f8f.703 - gsmtp  SMTP>> EHLO mailhost.maildomain.net  SMTP<< 250-mx.google.com at your service, [555.555.555.555] 250-SIZE 157286400 25

Re: [mailop] Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-27 Thread Michelle Sullivan via mailop
My current theory is Google accounts are the latest in a long line of abandonware…they “perfected it” so got rid of development and support and don’t care to fix any glaring issues…. It will only be addressed when it impacts the bottom line when it will be terminated or fixed…. Just like the lit

Re: [mailop] Gmail not accepting bounces coming from vacation messages because of null sender and SPF/DKIM

2024-08-27 Thread Paul Menzel via mailop
Dear Eduardo, Am 27.08.24 um 12:56 schrieb Eduardo Diaz Comellas via mailop: I've got a couple of complains from customers saying that the vacation message is not being received by Gmail users. Our email service is quite standard, with dovecot+sieve processing the email storage and autorespo

Re: [mailop] Gmail not accepting bounces coming from vacation messages because of null sender and SPF/DKIM

2024-08-27 Thread L. Mark Stone via mailop
Treat your sending MTA FQDNs as if they were separate customer domains, and configure SPF, DKIM and DMARC records for them. You'll have no problems then. Regards, Mark -- _ L. Mark Stone, Founder North America's Leading Zimbra

Re: [mailop] Gmail not accepting bounces coming from vacation messages because of null sender and SPF/DKIM

2024-08-27 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
You need to authenticate with either SPF or DKIM. As you’re using a null sender, you can set up SPF on the EHLO value. Or you can sign outgoing mail with DKIM, dealer’s choice. laura > On 27 Aug 2024, at 11:56, Eduardo Diaz Comellas via mailop > wrote: > > Hi all, > > I've got a couple of

[mailop] Gmail not accepting bounces coming from vacation messages because of null sender and SPF/DKIM

2024-08-27 Thread Eduardo Diaz Comellas via mailop
Hi all, I've got a couple of complains from customers saying that the vacation message is not being received by Gmail users. Our email service is quite standard, with dovecot+sieve processing the email storage and autoresponders. I've confirmed that the problem is true: 2024-08-27 11:08:09

Re: [mailop] Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-27 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 27.08.2024 o godz. 15:26:44 Viktor Dukhovni via mailop pisze: > > Welcome to two-factor denial of service. I try to resist signing up for > such baked-in disasters as much as I can, but the powers that be (hello > GitHub) have made it impossible in many cases. > > It is a sad state of affai

Re: [mailop] Cloudmark CSI contact?

2024-08-27 Thread James Hoddinott via mailop
Sure, I think I know the IP you're referring to based on your From domain here but please confirm it to me all the same. I can send you more details directly then. On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 at 10:07, Martin Barry via mailop wrote: > Howdy folks > > I have been trying to understand why an IP has been a

[mailop] Cloudmark CSI contact?

2024-08-27 Thread Martin Barry via mailop
Howdy folks I have been trying to understand why an IP has been added the to the CSI blocklist and hope to get it removed. Filled out the form but, other than the confirmation email, nothing heard from them a week later. Anyone have a contact there that might be able to shed light on what

Re: [mailop] Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-27 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
The address is lost. I had that happen with one of my gmail addresses (happily not used for anything important). The kicker was - I could get the “someone tried to log into your address” message at my recovery email address, but I couldn’t get the 2FA key sent to my recovery address. The accou