Re: [mailop] Hat color of list washers / validators

2018-03-08 Thread Michael Peddemors
Speaking of.. Does anyone know this actor? Is this a list washing service.. Lot's of 'invalid users' however, large amounts of email at once to those invalid users.. Fairly big IP Space.. 63.250.8.14 1 william1.expedite.scanprofile.net 63.250.8.19

Re: [mailop] Hat color of list washers / validators

2018-03-08 Thread Stefano Bagnara
On 8 March 2018 at 16:14, Laura Atkins wrote: > On Mar 8, 2018, at 1:18 AM, Stefano Bagnara wrote: >> PS: that trendmicro article is a bit the opposit of Laura answer I got >> yesterday about "dealing with it offline because making it public is >> not the way to fix the issue" ;-) I liked that ar

Re: [mailop] Hat color of list washers / validators

2018-03-08 Thread Kelly Molloy
On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 10:51 AM, John Levine wrote: > COI is a useful tool but it is not a magic bullet. People abandon > their mailboxes and even though it doesn't bounce and nobody > complains, nobody's reading it either. Also, companies change. My favorite story about that is back when I wa

Re: [mailop] Looking for contacts at Safeserve.com and eircom.net

2018-03-08 Thread Ken O'Driscoll via mailop
On Thu, 2018-03-08 at 13:46 -0500, James Madison wrote: > eircom.net They're the incumbent operator here. If you've already tried postmas...@eircom.net and got no reply after a few days, try calling the main Eir line and ask for internal IT - that *used* work years ago. If you're really stuck, h

[mailop] Looking for contacts at Safeserve.com and eircom.net

2018-03-08 Thread James Madison
Hi All, I have some users of Safeserve.com and eircom.net that are reporting some delivery issues that I would like to get some more information on. Their support teams are not the easiest to get in touch with it seems. Wondering if anyone has been in touch with either of these isp's before or ma

Re: [mailop] onmicrosoft DNS gone awry

2018-03-08 Thread t...@pelican.org
On Thursday, 8 March, 2018 16:28, "Ken O'Driscoll via mailop" said:   > That looks like a problem with your local resolver. My guess is that you > are doing some sort of query forwarding or maybe querying the root servers > in an improper manner. It looks pretty odd from here too.   If you que

Re: [mailop] onmicrosoft DNS gone awry

2018-03-08 Thread Andrew C Aitchison
On Thu, 8 Mar 2018, Lyle Giese wrote: I am unable to get to onmicrosoft.com(hosted exchange), doing a dig +trace onmicrosoft.com ends up: onmicrosoft.com.    86400   IN  NS ns4.bdm.microsoftonline.com. onmicrosoft.com.    86400   IN  NS ns1.bdm.microsoftonline.com. onmicrosoft.

Re: [mailop] onmicrosoft DNS gone awry

2018-03-08 Thread Ken O'Driscoll via mailop
On Thu, 2018-03-08 at 09:51 -0600, Lyle Giese wrote: > I am unable to get to onmicrosoft.com(hosted exchange), doing a dig  > +trace onmicrosoft.com ends up: [...snip...] > ;; BAD (HORIZONTAL) REFERRAL > dig: too many lookups That looks like a problem with your local resolver. My guess is that you

[mailop] onmicrosoft DNS gone awry

2018-03-08 Thread Lyle Giese
I am unable to get to onmicrosoft.com(hosted exchange), doing a dig +trace onmicrosoft.com ends up: onmicrosoft.com.    86400   IN  NS ns4.bdm.microsoftonline.com. onmicrosoft.com.    86400   IN  NS ns1.bdm.microsoftonline.com. onmicrosoft.com.    86400   IN  NS ns2.bdm

Re: [mailop] Hat color of list washers / validators

2018-03-08 Thread John Levine
In article , Stefano Bagnara wrote: >> No. Never. If you do that then the address is tainted and you >> *cannot* legitimately use information as it as evidence that mail >> sent to it was unwanted. > >This is not the place, but I strongly disagree (but is something very >subjective, I admit). > >

Re: [mailop] Hat color of list washers / validators

2018-03-08 Thread Laura Atkins
> On Mar 7, 2018, at 5:42 PM, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: > > > Certainly not with all spam traps, but if someone is reviewing the data, and > trying to decide what to do with a sample, an "Open" message might get sent > in error. I have this weird feeling that some of the “opens are per

Re: [mailop] Hat color of list washers / validators

2018-03-08 Thread Laura Atkins
> On Mar 8, 2018, at 1:18 AM, Stefano Bagnara wrote: > > > PS: that trendmicro article is a bit the opposit of Laura answer I got > yesterday about "dealing with it offline because making it public is > not the way to fix the issue" ;-) I liked that article in 2011. I don’t believe I ever said

[mailop] Timeouts to iinet servers

2018-03-08 Thread Marc Bradshaw via mailop
Hi All, We have been seeing timeouts and failed connects to iinet.net.au (and associated sub ISPs such as adam.com.au) over the past couple of hours.Tests have shown this isn't just from our networks, as similar results have been observed from linode and digital ocean VMs. Is anyone else seeing s

Re: [mailop] Hat color of list washers / validators

2018-03-08 Thread Stefano Bagnara
On 8 March 2018 at 02:43, Steve Atkins wrote: >> On Mar 7, 2018, at 4:38 PM, Stefano Bagnara wrote: >> Let's take into consideration that spamtrap network have to do their >> homework to avoid being identified easily, so if they never do >> opens/clicks they already put a big flash on them. So I