In article <CAHVBJ+nehqoFyyXToGamhn8H+4A8KvWuou==9ohqczms2hq...@mail.gmail.com>, Stefano Bagnara <mai...@bago.org> wrote: >> No. Never. If you do that then the address is tainted and you >> *cannot* legitimately use information as it as evidence that mail >> sent to it was unwanted. > >This is not the place, but I strongly disagree (but is something very >subjective, I admit). > >Opening a message is not a proof of consent or anything else: it is >just something used by marketers to track performances.
You're tangled up in double negatives here. The reality is with an address like this, maybe the mail is wanted, maybe not. You can't tell. As Steve said, you can learn all sorts of stuff from the mail to traps like these, but you can't just say anyone who mails to it is an evil spammer. >If you have COI then, every few months you sent emails with >unsubscribe links and without bounces, then you have the proof and the >spamtrap would be not legitimate. COI is a useful tool but it is not a magic bullet. People abandon their mailboxes and even though it doesn't bounce and nobody complains, nobody's reading it either. Also, companies change. For example, I got mail yesterday from a company I hadn't heard from for a while. Since I give everyone a unique address, I knew who it was and I knew I'd given them the address at some point, but I still didn't want the mail. That's because when I signed up, they sold direct and they used the address to send order confirmations. Now they sell through stores, I buy the same thing at my local grocery store and I have no interest in ever hearing from the company again. Since they know where I live (they used to ship me stuff) if they had decent data scientists they could easily check that there are stores near me and if they had good data scientists they would know that I stopped buying direct when they started selling locally. R's, John -- Regards, John Levine, jo...@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
