Has anyone had success finding how to access audio description in the CBS all
axis app on either your iPhone or your Apple TV? I am interested in the new
Star Trek Picard series, and I understand it’s supposedly has audio
description. A friend of mine, who watches this series with sided friends,
The bug is back. It was reported and not fixed.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 27, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
>
> I updated my phone to IOS 13.4 this morning and have noticed that when I
> open a new email and do a two finger swipe up to read all it just goes donk
> donk each t
We also have the Orbi and are happy with it. I think it is the RBK 50, but I’m
not totally sure so I would have to get some checking on that. The app is
reasonably accessible. There’s part of it that isn’t, some sort of map that
shows where your points are and how to optimize them. But it is acc
I don’t know anything about zoom for the Mac, but cant you mute voiceover
speech? It’s easy enough to do on the phone, and I thought there was a way to
do it on the Mac as well. Then if you need to navigate around, just unmute the
speech. I know it’s a workaround, but it should work, just like i
In theory, you double tap on the picker, then you flick up or down, or I have
even occasionally seen them from left to right, to pick the item you want. The
problem which has become more so with iOS 13 is that sometimes when you double
tap on the picker, the list doesn’t pop up. I have no idea w
This is just an API that Apple and Google have built. In order to use it, you
need an app. To the best of my knowledge, only three states have said they are
participating in this program at this time, many have not said, and some have
said no. It will be up to the health authority of each state
For me, the reason I don’t use a Mac anymore has to do with PDF files and web
usage. I found PDFs really difficult to deal with except the short and super
simple ones, and in my view, voiceover just doesn’t cut it as compared to
windows screen readers with various browsers. It gets busy and goes
ies@googlegroups.com On
> Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 1:59 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a
> Mac as a Blind Student
>
> For me, the reason I don’t use a
I have hope everybody who has tried this and found it less than wonderful has
been riding to Apple accessibility and wherever else you might have contact.
It’s ridiculous. This is one of the main components in their stupid bundle that
we have to buy if we want to get a deal. This and the games a
Hi Paul,
I have the same as you, but I use Siri to start and stop workouts. Generally it
works like a charm. Sometimes, Siri can’t do a connection or some dumb thing,
but if I repeat what I want, it generally works. And despite the occasional
missed connection with Siri, I think this is faster t
I have googled this, and follow the suggestions to restart my HomePod and to
sign in and out, or I should say out and in my iCloud on my HomePod using the
Home app. Originally, it was still playing stuff from my library, but I
couldn’t get it to play anything from Apple Music that wasn’t already
Well, I don’t have an official invitation yet, but I did try clicking on the
link that was in the original message where you could supposedly go and get a
group subscription link that way. Except I got the same message that Max did.
You don’t have permission to access this content. You can try l
This used to work reliably. It’s been broken for quite some time, and yes I
have reported it. Occasionally it works. Mostly it does not. Even when I’m
right on the text that says “link“, when I turn my rotor to links and flick up
or down, nothing. I don’t know why, but mostly it’s a Knogo.
Sen
ks as it has always worked for as long as I can
> remember.
>
> - Brad -
>
>
>
>
> On May 5, 2022, at 12:30, Mary Otten wrote:
>
> This used to work reliably. It’s been broken for quite some time, and yes I
> have reported it. Occasionally it works. Most
I couldn’t agree more. Facebook‘s actions over the past few years have proven
that it is a bad actor. Zuckerberg should go. And I’m all for Apple in this
one. I value my privacy. I would never trust Facebook. I signed out of them a
couple or three years ago and will never go back. I don’t need t
I’m sending this on behalf of a friend. He has been unable to back up his phone
since December of last year. When he tries, he gets a message back that says
that some files are not available. And then the whole back up aborts. This is
using iCloud. He has emptied his abs switcher and restarted h
Thanks for the suggestions. I doubt his iCloud is full, because it seems to me
that when my iCloud was almost full, I got a message. And he hasn’t had any
such messages. He also doesn’t have a Mac, which is where I ran into trouble
with the iCloud in the 50 GB plan. Anyway, I’m forwarding all su
Hi Mike,
It may be that the book you are looking for is part of the “take control“
series. Take control of zoom. It’s not written specifically from a blindness
perspective. However, people who use this series say it is very well done and
is good for voiceover users. So I think that might be the
I couldn’t agree more, Donna. I was really disappointed. The problem with the
homePod isn’t the speaker, it’s Apple and that god awful Siri. They really have
not done what they should be doing with that. And there’s no way I’m interested
in any HomePod mini. Why? I bought a pair of HomePods for
Mini in one of the main living spaces of
> the house.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>
>> On Mar 14, 2021, at 9:05 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>
>> I couldn’t agree more, Donna. I was really disappointed. The problem with
>> the homePod isn’t the speaker, it’s Apple and t
playlist with the album, and giving it a different name. But you're
> right, that shouldn't be necessary.
>
> All this said, I don't see how focusing on the Mini is going to fix those
> issues. The albums that won't play on my HomePod, also won't play on the m
As somebody else already said, that decision is up to you, based on your usage
and whether you’re happy with the service. You can save some money if you get a
yearly subscription. I believe the cost for that is $100, or $99.99. That means
that you would be saving about $20 over the monthly price
Hi Tim, related to accessing PDFs on a Mac, using the PDF pen that you
mentioned, can you efficiently and successfully navigate tables and click on
links that take you to websites or elsewhere within a PDF document? I am not
using a Mac presently. One of the reasons I reluctantly went to windows
In all the coverage of the online event today, I have seen absolutely nothing
about anything new for Accessibility, voiceover or otherwise. That’s not
unusual. But sometimes they show stuff on the slides that they don’t announce.
I haven’t seen anything about Accessibility and any of the tech ar
r says, “There’s always
> another secret.” Or something.
> Devin Prater
> d.pra...@me.com
> Https://devinprater.github.io
>
>> On Jun 22, 2020, at 6:39 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>
>> In all the coverage of the online event today, I have seen absolutely
>> not
s of your environment to your hearing needs.
>
> Devin Prater
> d.pra...@me.com
> Https://devinprater.github.io
>
>> On Jun 22, 2020, at 9:06 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>
>> Hi Devon, quite honestly, if this isn’t coming from Apple, it’s not worth
>> very much. So, bef
Or something.
> Devin Prater
> d.pra...@me.com
> Https://devinprater.github.io
>
>> On Jun 22, 2020, at 6:39 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>
>> In all the coverage of the online event today, I have seen absolutely
>> nothing about anything new for Accessibility, voiceov
Hi Donna,
I have not use this display, but if you are interested, there is a mailing list
dedicated to both it and the Chamaeleon, the 20cell variant that has a braille
keyboard rather than a quirky one. You can also see the manual on the APH
mantis dedicated page. If you’re interested in the em
Hi Donna,
Good luck with the cube rail. I had one as a demo right after it came out, and
the software was bad. It really didn’t work with voiceover, which was a massive
problem for me. I understand it is much better now. It’s still just seems kind
of clunky, the way you interact with it in terms
There is some kind of feature in iOS 14 which will speed up having the “use
passcode“, if you’re on a phone that has only Face ID. So there is not going to
be touch ID on the iPhone 12 I am extremely sure. They put this new feature in
14 to try to help with the mask situation.
Sent from my iPh
Hi Donna,
I have no clue about your iPad, but me.com these days it’s just aliased to
iCloud.com. So why not just go for iCloud.com, since it’s the same thing? I
mean it goes the same place
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 20, 2020, at 12:43 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
> wrote:
>
> Hi
You’ve never had a bug in android? That’s really hard to believe, since it’s
an operating system, and I happen to see from time to time bugs reported in the
main stream press, just like they are with Apple. So I find it hard to believe
that you’ve never seen a bug in android or Samsung for that
Are you probably don’t have the back tap on your iPod touch. I know I don’t
have it on my iPhone 7 Plus. As for the neat new recognition features, I think
they’re more of a pain than a neat thing. I’ve turned them off. I haven’t found
anything useful about them. All they do is add extra verbiage
I had high hopes for this feature, and so when I got it on my iPhone 10 R, I
activated it for an app that used to be lovely and accessible and turn totally
useless with lots of things that just said button with no labor. And voiceover
didn’t do anything. The app is in Russian, but I have a Russi
The 20 cell version has braille input rather than typing. A dealbreaker for me.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 7, 2020, at 12:16 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>
> Hi!
> THey should have a 20 cell version.
> /A
>
>> 7 okt. 2020 kl. 20:32 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>> :
>>
>> It's re
I also use Apple Music, because I like the high quality at no extra cost, the
ease of use with Siri, the fact that I have HomePods and iOS devices etc. I
also had it linked to my Amazon, although that went out a little while back and
I haven’t tried it since. I did have Amazon music, but I dropp
I have an updated yet, because I’m still running iOS 15 on my phone. My watch
face is the info graph, which I like because it has eight complications. Has
anybody tried that one? Does it give percentages or numbers? I will not upgrade
if it doesn’t give numbers. Too bad, but I really like number
nna
>
>
>> On Sep 13, 2022, at 6:57 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>
>> I have an updated yet, because I’m still running iOS 15 on my phone. My
>> watch face is the info graph, which I like because it has eight
>> complications. Has anybody tried that one? Does it
>
>> On Sep 13, 2022, at 7:39 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>
>> Hi Donna,
>> Did you mean the info graph face? The one with 8complications? Thanks.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>>> On Sep 13, 2022, at 5:04 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacV
Hi Donna,
I have not seen that problem. I have seen the problem where after I dictate a
message and double tap to stop dictation, it doesn’t stop. Maybe it takes two
or three taps for it to stop. But I haven’t seen what you’re describing, thank
goodness!
Mary.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 18,
Yes. I have the exact same problem with switching between Alex and Samantha. I
can’t figure out when or why it happens. But when it does, it’s annoying, and
as you say, voiceover becomes extremely sluggish.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 12, 2023, at 7:43 AM, Jessica Moss wrote:
>
> I have, min
You can always hope that Google actually keeps its promise and supports the hid
protocol which this device uses. Way too rich for my blood, but really Google.
You were on board with the standard, but when push came to shove, you wouldn’t
do it. Just another reason not to trust Google I guess.
S
I just got a pair of the open fit, and I purchased them from at guys, keep the
money in the blind community when you can if the price is the same or very
close, I say. I ordered them on the weekend and they came today. I live in
Oregon, and I suspect they were shipped from somewhere back east,
I have never had any problems with Apple Pay on my phone, which is the only
place I use it. I do use the Apple Card for a lot of things and I love it,
because you immediately know when anything was charged to your card. I don’t
get that same thing with any other card, so I really appreciate The
Interesting. I have had legitimate purchases declined by my Apple Card. I get a
notification immediately telling me this was declined, did you do it? And if I
go click yes, then it goes through. I’ve never had them not catch something. So
that was very interesting. I have had fraud on two other
This has been a long-standing problem, and it doesn’t mean that the links
aren’t in your rotor. It means that a lot of text messages have links that
simply don’t show up as such. At least that’s been my experience. If I’m in a
text message that acts like this where the rotor doesn’t move to a li
So how did you get your problem resolved, Donna? I know they finally figured
out a way to charge iPhones in the store which is a good thing, since that
caused a big mess. I don’t think they’ve done that with HomePods. So how did
you get yours done? I still have my pair of old HomePods connected
was no way we were giving up those
> speakers. I don’t remember the price of the amp, but it works very well, and
> gives us the option of having my husband’s speakers in our Home setup. Just
> thought I’d let you know that’s an option, in case it’s of interest. 😊
> Cheers,
> Don
I have to agree with Donna about the HomePod. I have had Google nests, the mini ones, and overtime, Google Assistant is actually getting dumber. They’re taking longer and longer to respond and they often don’t have a clue. As for the Amazon devices, they’re OK too I suppose if you don’t mind questi
Hi Donna,
I am probably one of the few who still likes full-size keyboards with lots of
key travel and mechanical switches. To that end, I recently purchased a
Logitech MX mechanical keyboard to use with my iPad mini. It is certainly
larger than most. It has the full number pad. It has some spac
I just saw that language switch thing yesterday. I had never seen it before. In
my case, I have Samantha set, but then it sometimes just switches to Russian,
which I also have. But I don’t want it except if I’m trying to read Russian,
which I don’t usually do on the watch.
Sent from my iPhone
Wow! I haven’t seen a deal from my carrier except if you add a new line. We don’t need another line. So any deals are useless for us. I don’t know how old the SE3 is. But I’d be tempted to go for the 15 just because it’s way newer and therefore probably substantially faster. But how do you feel abo
Would love this info too.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 8, 2016, at 2:34 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> It seems that when I view a group feed in the Facebook app, the individual
> member posts are not necessarily sorted into chronological order, from
> newest to oldest.
>
>
I have the need to collaborate with people on a Google doc, which is apparently
a database sort of thing, where we have to make phone calls and notes. I would
like to use my iPad and the docs app, as that would seem to be the simplest
way. I have a keyboard for my iPad. I could also use a Mac wh
While I personally do not have any plans to purchase a beta, having no clue how
long it will take for the actual final product to come out, this is still a
welcome development on the Mac braille front.
Mary
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Keith Reedy
> Date: July 19, 201
>> Its been a long time coming. Can't see paying for a beta but I will install
>> the demo and see about that.
>>
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>
>>> On 7/19/2016 6:46 PM,
..@icloud.com
>
>> On 7/22/2016 8:58 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
>> I have the windows version. And navigation with a screen reader without a
>> braille display in that version in a translated document is also worthless.
>> I would expect that to be the case unless you ha
s easy.
>
> An email address is also provided which I will make use of when I put the
> app through its paces.
>
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Are We Alone in the Universe?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>
>> On 7/22/2016 9:31 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
>> It is g
I have the latest version of the yelp app on my iPhone. I have been trying to
figure out a way to search for restaurants in a town other than the one where I
am currently located. There is a locations under settings. But there's no way
to add a location. And there doesn't seem to be a way to cha
I recall seeing somewhere that if you buy an iPhone, such as an iPhone SE, and
you don't get a carriers Sim card to go with it, you can't use it. Is that
true? I have an android phone that I never had a Sim card for, and it has
worked just fine as a tablet more or less. I would like to use an iP
the phone is up and running.
>
> Danny
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 25 Jul 2016, at 11:56 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>
>> I recall seeing somewhere that if you buy an iPhone, such as an iPhone SE,
>> and you don't get a carriers Sim card to go with
like on IPhones.
>
> Anyway, this is really getting OT, so I'll end it there, but I just found
> that a bit interesting.
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
>
> clgillan...@gmail.com
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
> - Original
Phone 6+, as well as a 6S, and I'd
> imagine a 6S+. I don't know about an S E, nor a 5C/5. I know however it
> will fit the 5S, as I've done it.
>
> Chris.
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
>
> clgillan..
t to give them another call.
>
> If all this is to much of a headache I have a pile of nano SIMs, I could drop
> one in the mail.
>
>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Chris. When I got the sim from AT&T, which came in the mail, w
No. Absolutely worthless.
Mary
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 28, 2016, at 12:00 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I am using the Kindle App on my iPhone using VoiceOver and it works pretty
> well.
>
> I would like to also read Kindle books on my iMac running the latest El
> Capitan. I
I am sending this to two lists, because I know there are some on the Mac list
who use I-devices and are not subscribed to the iPhone list. I have recently
noticed that voice dream reader will sometimes cut out when I am reading a book
from book share. I thought at first that there was a problem
Are used my phone today to purchase two books in the sale and used to other
credits on the regular site to buy two more books. This was on the phone, not
on the Mac or the PC, so I can't speak to accessibility there. I have actually
never used the Mac to buy an audible book, since the idea of pu
Given the fact that the email address you have is for Peter corn, the excess
ability head guy at Amazon, I wouldn't expect a reply from that address from
him personally. That sounds like something that would not be something he would
directly deal with as head of the whole department.
Mary
Sen
this for a fact or are you speculating? If Peter Korn is not
> the one to take it to, then who or what or where?
>
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Are We Alone in the Universe?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>
>> On 8/16/2016 8:45 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>> Given the fact
n the areas defined as being
> for screen reader use does not reflect well on his leadership.
> Kare
>
>
>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2016, Mary Otten wrote:
>>
>> Given the fact that the email address you have is for Peter corn, the excess
>> ability head guy at
med at?
>
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Are We Alone in the Universe?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>
>> On 8/16/2016 9:13 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>> I know for a fact that Peter corn is the head of the excess ability
>> initiative and Amazon. I don't know who to ta
o deal with accessibility, then is it not
>> obvious they do not know the nuts and bolts thus they need to hear from
>> those these efforts is supposedly aimed at?
>>
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>
with various disability experiences.
> I know he is talented, i still use outspoken for my pro tools machine. But
> how his desires translate into functionality for Amazon remains a mystery
> given what I found last night.
> Karen
>
>
>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2016, Mary Otte
Did you get the Mac app in the Mac App Store?
Mary
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 18, 2016, at 11:20 AM, E.T. wrote:
>
> Hi Karen and others,
> After Amazon MP3 Downloader (Windows) was given the boot, I installed the
> Amazon Music app. I do not recall just what I had to do initially but now
18, 2016, at 2:31 PM, E.T. wrote:
>
> No, from the Amazon site.
>
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Are We Alone in the Universe?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>
>> On 8/18/2016 2:30 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>> Did you get the Mac app in the Mac App Store?
>>
Apple viz. recently published a podcast done by Lisa Sullenger on this topic.
She mentions a specific HDMI to audio converter that she used with her stereo.
The one thing she did not touch upon in her podcast has to do with an issue
that has been raised on these lists before regarding the usabil
Apple patches three zero-day exploits after activist is hacked
TUAW - The Unofficial Apple Weblog
Apple has rolled out a patch for three previously unknown zero-day exploits
that were used to hack into the iPhone 6 of Ahmed Mansoor, an award-winning
human rights activist based in the United Ara
In my experience, the apps do a pretty good job most of the time with the side
of the street. That's true for the GPS in our car, not just blindness apps.
There certainly not perfect. But most of the time, they seem to get it right.
Mary
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 27, 2016, at 7:58 PM, Davi
Janine is correct. I didn't listen to the podcast, but if Mike said that in
general it didn't identify the side of the street for the destination, he was
wrong.
Mary
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 28, 2016, at 11:40 AM, gs wrote:
>
> The provision of information is not condescending. The podca
I would have to actually experience that to believe it.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 28, 2016, at 6:27 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>
> I have a very good friend who built an interface between his dog and a GPS
> mapping package. The dog was then trained to follow a dot that a set of
> goggles
nd music
>> through the sound system with out the tv screan active.
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, 25 August 2016 12:30 PM
>>
Hi Mark,
Of course, only time will tell. But I think you are wrong about the
disappearing headphone jack. For one thing, Samsung put back the storage card
thing, but did not put back the user replaceable battery. Also, if the other
rumor is true, Apple will be including compatible earbuds with t
oof phone
> with no openings at all. The entire surface could be a screen. Not needing
> ports is a good thing over all.
>
>
>
>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>> Of course, only time will tell. But I think you are wrong
n't think they'll be so quick to follow
>>> Apple's lead in the coming future. As one of the executives of Samsung
>>> recently said, "Samsung is at its best when it leads, not when it follows."
>>
>>> My personal position is to just sit back,
e you can
> either listen to wired headphones or charge, not both.
> That means that every VoiceOver user who chooses a wired option appears to
> have to choose between privacy and charge.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and trainin
ould
>>> change the lives of the world. Well, as far as I can tell, my world hasn't
>>> changed one bit either with or without it.
>>>
>>> As far as Samsung is concerned, I don't think they'll be so quick to follow
>>> Apple's
avely misinformed.
> I would just like to download files from Safari to my iPhone such as mp3
> files.
> viewing it as a harddrive like the Android phones.
>> On 2 Sep. 2016, at 1:26 pm, Mary Otten wrote:
>>
>> Samsung tried what? Samsung did not remove the headphone ja
you attached the headphones with an adapter. I could be
> remembering wrong though.
>
>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 11:26 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>
>> Samsung tried what? Samsung did not remove the headphone jack. They took
>> away the storage card slot. And they brought it ba
>
>
>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 11:38 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>
>> Yes. I too would like to be able to plug my eye device into a PC or Mac and
>> access that like I could A thumb drive. I would also like a storage slot,
>> so that damned 16 GB model they sell w
you raise your wrist. I have done
> this, and the watch no longer interrupts my daily living. I can dine for
> example and the watch will not go off. The setting can be found under general
> > wake screen.
>> On 1 Sep 2016, at 17:50, Mary Otten wrote:
>>
>> I guess
watch and the ability to set the WiFi settings separately with
> advanced features. There were rumblings of adding a full cell feature to the
> apple watch but I don’t know if that was included in the upcoming release.
>
>> On Sep 2, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>
e nice to be able to just connect from anywhere with
> out an extra gadget. I know that’s a first world problem, just turning on
> the laptop and going would be nice though. To me I like the idea of
> everything being decentralized but everyone’s use case is different.
>
&g
illing to accept an adapter jutting out of their
>>>>>> phone with its resultant potential to be lost or bent, the adapter will
>>>>>> not solve the problem entirely if it means that you can't charge your
>>>>>> device and use headphones at the sam
es)
>
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Are We Alone in the Universe?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>
>> On 9/2/2016 12:26 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>> Hi Scott,
>> I agree that we don't know what the adapter will do, since it's not out.
>> However, should it t
Saw that. And I looked on the list of cities and lo and behold, Eugene
Springfield is actually there. Nonetheless, I still have a very bad taste in my
mouth from recent experience with Verizon. So I'm not going to be changing.
Mary
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 2, 2016, at 1:08 PM, Scott Granad
.
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Saturday, 3 September 2016 4:59 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue
gt;>>
>>>> Given Apple's issue with iTunes for Windows and its politically ridiculous
>>>> decision to unilaterally put albums in its users' accounts, I'm not so
>>>> certain that just because it decides something it better will make it so
gt; Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
>
>> On 4/09/2016, at 6:15 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>
>> That wouldn't seem to address this problem at all. It requires a headphone
>> jack. Maybe it's a nice device, but not for this
i know the new apple products are
> speaking bluetooth 4.2.
>
>> On Sep 3, 2016, at 4:13 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
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>> I think I misunderstood the post about the headphone jack and where it was
>> regarding this Griffin device. What I want to know, and maybe will find out
an Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org
>>
>>> On 4/09/2016, at 6:15 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
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>>> That wouldn't seem to address this problem at all. It requires a headphone
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