I think it is a vo problem. I had this problem a few days ago, and I thought I
was just messing up because I'm a new Mac user. I couldn't get the settings to
stick, but my sighted husband informed me that they were reading properly, but
vo was reporting them incorrectly.
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Thanks so much, Esther, for all that great info. And yes, get info. That is
what I remember hearing for how to change the default app to open a file.
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www.religiondispatches.org. I know VO has a lot of good features for moving
among headers, links, visited or unvisited, form controls etc. But I haven't
found one that lets you move to the next nonlink text on a page. Am I missing
it?> Or does it just not exist?
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Hi Les,
Thanks for the tip on vo command p to find the next plain text. I looked in the
web section of the vo help menu and didn't see it there. Just double checked
and didn't see it. Where should I have looked to find this one?
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Thanks, Nick. Find menu. I had seen all those commands, but just filed them
away in some mental compartment that relates to finding text in word
processing, not on the web. I'll definitely try this option and hope it does
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bluetooth or rf device whose receiver plugs into the line in on your stereo? I
have no clue if there would be a market for such a thing, especially since
there is Itunes with the Ipod as remote. But that doesn't let you control the
Mac, jus
Hi Les,
Yes, I do read braille, and I saw that about the braille manual from the
Lighthouse. It looked like that was referring to the Leopard manual, but
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Hi Chris,
Yes, I know about wireless headphones. I worked using headphones for 8 hours a
day for 30 years, so I try to avoid them when possible. It could be a
cheap way to find out just how far the keyboard will work reliably, though. 30
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to fake Itunes out and somehow get these things in there and transferred over
to the Ipod? Or am I out of luck? Thanks a lot Apple. Itunes just doesn't seem
to be flexible enough to meet my needs. But am I overlooking something?
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thanks, Esther. How ironic that people in the UK can't get this app!
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7;m glad I have a pc with an active audible account so am not
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st as others have reported. How
come, when I went back to safari 4, the problems didn't go away? I also deleted
the new webkit I had recently installed. No help there. what am I doing wrong?
this is as frustrating as anything I've seen with Windows.
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issions if it doesn't work? And
why wouldn't it work? Maybe that's why those of us with these safari problems
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I'm sorry to report that downloading the safari 5 from the apple site did
nothing for my problems here. I repaired permissions after installing and
loaded the audible site, which caused the restart problem just as it has all
along. I do hope they get this fixed soon.
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Turning off java script in the developer menu seems to have solved the problem
I was having on the audible site. ichat is still messed up, but at least it
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Did turning off java fix ichat for you as well? Here id did nothing useful,
which I suppose I wouldn't expect it to; I don't guess java script is involved
with ichat, is it? anyway, still looking forward to a fix, but half a loaf
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In addition to having to interact twice, you sometimes get taken back to the
start of the chat with no way to get to the end without reading through the
entire thing, very annoying, to say the least! Hoping for a fix.
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thanks, Darcy. Works like a charm. Having never used Safari extensions before,
I'm wondering what else is out there that might be useful and accessible and
where you find these things. A google search is obviously one way, but I'd be
curious if others have actual experiennces.
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Accessing Audible via google also works for me and has allowed me to turn
javascript back on, which has improved functionality o other sites. Still
waiting for the IChat fix.
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Pocket tunes is an iphone/ipod touch app that lets you stream and record radio
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I don't think pocket tunes can record at selected times. If it can, I haven't
found a way to do it. But its such a cool app otherwise. Its catalogue is
really good, as John said.
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No, I did not download a book with java script disabled. I was seeing funky
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it and going in that way. that seems to work, so I was able to re enable java
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Hi Cara,
Neither vo plus space or enter does anything for me when in the doc on the
applications or documents folders. vo shift m brings up the menu that has the
open option in it. enter and vo plus space work on the doanload and other
folders, but not applications or documents. Weird.
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After checking "list" in the menu that comes up when you hit vo shift m on a
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received less publicity than the general issues with the app and websites.
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audible from a google search, even with a cooky and an account should work but
entering it from either a bookmark or by typing it in doesn't, I haven't a clue.
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You can't play library of congress talking books on an Ipod. so if you read a
lot of those books and magazines, you'd need some sort of something to play
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Hi David,
I never enabled time stamp in IChat. It was that way by default from the first
time I used it. I'd like to disable it but have not seen an entry for that.
Looking forward to when the problem with vo and IChat gets squashed.
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Hi Olivia,
I think you said you have an ipod or ipad. Get the apple store app and order
the IPhone that way. Not a fix for this problem, but you'll get your IPhone
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How about Ichat? I tried shutting down and restarting there and its messy,
sometimes sort of works, often not. has anybody found a stable work around
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Control option j takes you to the preview pane and the message is then read
automatically. vo j back to the message list. But I thought Mark said he didn't
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or restoration of my system,
which is faithfully backed up on a frequent basis. With so many of us having
these problems, though, it does not seem like its an individual system thing.
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Hi chris,
I am thankful that the preview pane does not just start reading the next
message automatically. I delete a lot without reading, so for me, starting the
reading of each new message would not be a desired behavior. different strokes,
I guess.
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message. What the heck is this referring to? And since I didn't modify it, how
might a mod happen? is it something that could be causing me problems and how
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I have books in my sources table, but there are audiobooks in there. I was
expecting to see ibooks as a separate category. I assume audiobooks and Ibooks
won't be mixed together in the same table.
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ial concave cells that
Handytech uses. One of the toughest things about deciding n a display, aside
from the money, is getting to really try a variety of them if you don't attend
one of the big conventions. but I'm getting off topic.
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do you have to pair the display anew each time you move to using a different
device? I'm sure that's a silly question. But I've found that assuming can lead
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and some other language. Your
choice is one of the other. Am I understanding that right? Or would it be
possible to check the check box for American English when you aren't doing
anything that requires another language?
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Thanks for the tip, annie. I thikn those Baum displays are sold here under the
Humanware brand; there doesn't seem to be a Baum dealer in the U.S.
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27;s info before you hear the next subject. I'd like to not hear
message status and would like subject prior to sender. Not a big deal unless
you've got hundreds of emails backed up, I suppose. but it would be nice.
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thanks, Cara, for the post from Josh. I don't have a Macbook, so the trackpad
isn't available here. But I do have numpad commander and quicknav. Not much
good here, but good other places. Tradeoffs.
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By they are only set up for computer braille entry, I assume you mean vo, not
the particular display, the bc640? Or did you mean just that display?
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hard drives are 7200 rpm; I wasn't
able to find that in the looking I did, but its probably buried somewhere in
there. The server model is 7200 rpm with duel 500gb drives, but I recall
hearing that that os version isn't vo friendly. What gets me is how much Apple
wants for memory
re all reasons why I can't see
dumping windows for scanning/ocr purposes. If abbyy would come out with a full
version of fine reader, that might be a different story.
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expensive solution doesn't seem
practical. I'm intrigued by the camera idea, but I would never pay a thousand
for an add on or close to twice that for a stand alone solution.
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Hi Peter,
Thanks for your reply about using the braille star. I'd love to see the
Handytech braille cels. Apparently, its a unique design, and people either love
it or hate it. its hard to picture how the concave cells are without getting
your hands on a display.
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Yes, it will be great if they come out with an accessible scanning ocr app for
the IPhone. But I don't think I see such an app being for the most efficient
way to do books. Great for stuff on the go, however.
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reading. is there a way to have the whole thing open like you can in acrobat
reader and just read from start to finish? Alternatively, how do you find the
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For whatever reason, although the view menu in preview was set to view a pdf as
single page continuous, the document I was having problems with wasn't reading
like that. Reopening the document and preview solved the problem; no idea why
it didn't work right the first time.
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safari reader, on the other hand,
worked flawlessly. Right arrowing through to see the various chunks of text
also worked. but vo a certainly did what chris described.
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continues even after a restart. What else might I change to get speech read at
something approximating a speed I'm use to with vo?
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d how to select just those I want. this must e a
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could be deleted. the Russian
voice is pretty decent, better than I thought it would be, as is the Mexico
Spanish voice. Pretty darned cool! I wonder if Ibooks will have foreign
language texts eventually; I suspect I'll wait a long time for anything in
Russian, though.
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hing installed. I see the bookshelf and title, author and category,
which I presume are ways of sorting the material. but my list is said to be
empty, which would seem to indicate the absence of a sample test book with the
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that helps. Web pages also
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Hi Doug,
I looked at the description and reviews for documents 2. It looks like an
incredible app for the price of a mere $2. Some reviewers weren't too happy
with it. but if its accessible with VO, what's not to like?
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Ibooks is now available on the Ipod touch and Iphone, not just hte Ipad. Its
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Simon, Ibooks is for ebooks in the epub format and it will also read pdfs.
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the school system where my husband teaches here in Oregon uses all macs. I
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Can this be done? I just installed the latest webkit, and it has solved the
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Well, it must be time to turn this off and go to bed. I just opened webkit
again, and my Russian links that I swear were not there when I was last in
webkit were there as Esther said bookmarks should be. Definitely time to call
it a night!
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Hi Ben, this is the Springfield school district, right next to Eugene, Oregon
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No, it won't work with the Ipod because the Ipod has no camera with which to
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Hi all,
I have recently installed the stanza app on my Ipod and subsequently went to
the website to look at the faq. For whatever reason, the portion of faq having
to do with transfering files didn't show answers when I clicked on one of the
questions in that section. Anyway, my questions are th
f controls, kind of like speech box mode for JAWS.
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