Re: Group or dom, was Re: Dynamic html and Safari in group mode

2009-06-06 Thread Ignasi Cambra
I think most people who come from Windows screen readers, including myself, use DOM navigation because it's basically the same one that you would use with JFW or Window Eyes. I do like Group navigation, except sometimes it just didn't work for me on certain websites so I definitely switche

Xcode

2009-06-06 Thread Ignasi Cambra
Hello all, Is XCode compatible with VO? Thanks! Ignasi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from

Re: mail question

2009-06-06 Thread Ignasi Cambra
No. Here's what you need to do. From the accounts part of the mail prefs, select the "account information" tab. In there just VO right arrow until you hear "outgoing mail server popup button". Activate the popup button and select "edit server list". Press VO space and you will get to the li

OT: Re: Xcode

2009-06-08 Thread Ignasi Cambra
ioncourtsmusings.blogspot.com > GoodReads: http://goodreads.com/Lioncourt > > On Jun 5, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Ignasi Cambra wrote: > >> >> Hello all, >> Is XCode compatible with VO? Thanks! >> >> Ignasi >> >> >> > > > > --~--~---

Re: mail question

2009-06-08 Thread Ignasi Cambra
ing else in there. > - Original Message - > From: Ignasi Cambra > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 2:48 AM > Subject: Re: mail question > > No. Here's what you need to do. From the accounts part of the mail > prefs, select the &qu

Re: Rare Apple Synth

2009-06-08 Thread Ignasi Cambra
All this stories are so fascinating...! Many of these computers you guys are talking about are way older than me anyway... I started using DOS with a spanish screen reader called Habla. Well I think it was developed in Spain, but I don't know if anyone else ever tried it. It was kind of si

Re: recording sound off the net?

2009-06-08 Thread Ignasi Cambra
Use Audio Hijack pro. It will record sound coming from any program on your computer. Ignasi On Jun 7, 2009, at 11:35 PM, Maurice Mines wrote: > hi I have a somwhat intresting problem with recording internet > streems, I have sound stedo 357 how can I record ainternet streem > setch as > > > >

Re: Apple Mail and IMAP

2009-06-08 Thread Ignasi Cambra
To set up an Imap account, just go to the file menu and select "add account" or something like that. In one of the screens you will be given the option of selecting the incoming mail server type, and you can select imap. Ignasi On Jun 8, 2009, at 11:48 AM, Sean Tikkun wrote: > When you go t

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-08 Thread Ignasi Cambra
It is just great. I'm wordless... I'll try to get an iPhone as soon as I can too. Did you guys read the long article about Snow Leopard accessibility? Web browsing seems to have been enhanced a lot. On Jun 8, 2009, at 6:54 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote: > > I'm still kind of in shock. This is be

Re: Tabular content and Voiceover

2009-06-08 Thread Ignasi Cambra
Hi, I think tables are somehow accessible with Pages 09, but I'm not sure. In any case I have found tables in Ms Word documents to be reasonably understandable in Textedit. The thing is that you need to know that you are in a table, but once you know it, it's doable. What happens is that i

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-08 Thread Ignasi Cambra
Oh, and now that I think about it, does anyone know if existing iPod touch or iPhones can be upgraded to the new system? They all have the necessary touch screen, so hypothetically VO should be able to work on them, unless Apple added a lot of processing power and memory to the new iPhones,

Re: Rare Apple Synth

2009-06-08 Thread Ignasi Cambra
w that there were separate > screenreaders for multiple languages back then. The only synth I'd > ever heard that could handle those was the Apollo. Sothis is > interesting to me at least. > > On 07/06/2009, Ignasi Cambra wrote: >> >> All this stories are so fascinating...! Man

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-08 Thread Ignasi Cambra
ll be included in > that. > On Jun 8, 2009, at 5:11 PM, Ignasi Cambra wrote: > >> Oh, and now that I think about it, does anyone know if existing >> iPod touch or iPhones can be upgraded to the new system? They all >> have the necessary touch screen, so hypothet

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-08 Thread Ignasi Cambra
6 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > Hi, > > I think it will be. > > They will be upgradable for $10 for all the firmware. Unfortunately > they did add CPU power, ... So who knows about VO running on the > older phones. > > Regards, > Alex, > > > On 8-Jun-09, at 8:

Re: safari 4 issue

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
command [ On Jun 9, 2009, at 12:14 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: > > Hey all. i'm having a safari 4 issue. when i try to go back with > command left arrow, it doesn't go back like it did in version 3. is > there a fix for this? > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You receiv

Re: Apple Mail and IMAP

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
ause now aol has a pop3 alternative to imap. And maybe the > company you are dealing with does too. Hope that helps, Max > On Jun 8, 2009, at 12:40 PM, Ignasi Cambra wrote: > > > To set up an Imap account, just go to the file menu and select "add > account" or somethi

Re: Rare Apple Synth

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
ld handle those was the Apollo. Sothis is >> interesting to me at least. >> >> On 07/06/2009, Ignasi Cambra wrote: >>> >>> All this stories are so fascinating...! Many of these computers you >>> guys are talking about are way older than me anyway... I started

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
Listen to the keynote from WWDC at www.apple.com. It's a rather lengthy presentation but really interesting. At some point they specify exactly in which countries the iPhone will be sold, and when it's coming out. In Spain it's coming out this month. On Jun 9, 2009, at 5:09 AM, Krister Ekstr

Re: Rare Apple Synth

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
n 2009 kl. 02.07 skrev Tiffany D: >> >>> >>> Definitely not boring. I didn't know that there were separate >>> screenreaders for multiple languages back then. The only synth I'd >>> ever heard that could handle those was the Apollo. Sothis is >>> inte

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
I will not get rid of my MSP license either, but the fact is that here in Spain we only have GSM carriers, and none of them is really hated by people. If VO on the iPhone works as well as VO on the Mac, I will simply get an iPhone the next time I need to purchase a cell phone. I like VO, I

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
I think on the Apple website it said that all programs that come with the iPhone are accessible, and it specified "including google maps". If google maps is truly accessible, a GPS solution can't be that hard to get to work... On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:49 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > > And what ab

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
Well, and the same goes for Windows Mobile. I have tried apps for that platform many times which aren't read by Mobile Speak at all. On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:56 AM, ben mustill-rose wrote: > > Assuming of course that the developer wants to. Essentially, you'll > end up with the exact same situation

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
Yeah, it's funny how Apple employees are always so willing to learn about VO. None of the ones I've talked to at the store knew how VoiceOver works, and some of them thought that it wasn't really usable by an actual blind person, yet. Just as a joke, after talking to one of them, I turned

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
I might be wrong, but Mac OS X has been around for quite a long time now, and it is possible to create Mac compatible apps without using the Cocoa framework. This is were I might really be wrong, but from what I heard yesterday from the WWDC keynote, and from what I've read, developers who

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
Read the iPhone page on the apple accessibility website. It will answer your questions. On Jun 9, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Jed Barton wrote: > does anyone have the info on the official release notes for it? > Does it work currently, and i would guess it would come with the > iphone? > Also, how would

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
roups.com > ] On Behalf Of Ignasi Cambra > Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 2:33 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: voice over comes to the I phone > > Read the iPhone page on the apple accessibility website. It will > answer your questions. > On Jun 9, 2

Re: P2P file shareing...

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
You can use uTorrent. It's a Bittorrent client and it's completely accessible with VO. I use it and am really happy with it. On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Mike wrote: > > Hi all: > > Anyone know of a VO accessible P2P file sharing program for music and > the like. > I tried the latest LimeWire an

Re: Vo doesn't read text under some radio buttons

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
Try reading the text on the radio buttons with VO+H. If it doesn't work, try VO+L. On Jun 9, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Michael Reiser wrote: > > Hello all, > > Just wanted to report that vo doesn't seem to read text under some > radio buttons. An example of this is my school. They use a thing > calle

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-10 Thread Ignasi Cambra
I don't think Verizon will sell the iPhone because on the keynote they announced the price for the 3GS and clearly said that it was the AT&T pricing in the United States. So if the iPhone is going to be on the VZ network, why wouldn't he have announced that? On Jun 9, 2009, at 9:29 PM, Larry

Re: mac voiceover in braille monitor

2009-06-10 Thread Ignasi Cambra
Oh, so that's what it is...! On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:03 PM, Michael Reiser wrote: > > They have FS and other companies in there pockets, so they have to > discredit someone else. > > Mike > On Jun 9, 2009, at 9:54 PM, James Dietz wrote: > >> >> Nearly everything they point out is negative. It's alm

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-10 Thread Ignasi Cambra
Which means that all of us should start writing them right away about the need of an accessible solution. On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:36 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hi, > > The criteria is that TomTom wants exclusive rights to Turn by Turn > directions. > > So they have them. > > Regards, > Alex, >

Re: Voiceover on iPhone demo was Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-10 Thread Ignasi Cambra
And where is the demo??? On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:38 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hi, > > The voice on the phone is Victoria because of her great workings with > low RAM systems. She is the English US Candidate it seems. > > I saw this in a demo. > > Regards, > Alex, > > > > > --~--~-~--~

Re: My iPhone

2009-06-10 Thread Ignasi Cambra
You won't have much trouble making the iPhone work on T-Mobile. You'll need to jailbreak it, although as of now jailbreaking with OS 3.0 beta installed is impossible, because Apple made some changes on some USB protocol. After 3.0 is released publicly, jailbreaking applications compatible

Re: mac voiceover in braille monitor

2009-06-10 Thread Ignasi Cambra
This happens everywhere. The ONCE in Spain, which is the equivalent of the NFB, does exactly the same. On Jun 10, 2009, at 2:04 AM, Mark Baxter wrote: > > This is typical NFB. Prey on an already oppressed popularion with > scare tactics about what *COULD* go wrong and how helpless they'd be >

Re: mac voiceover in braille monitor

2009-06-10 Thread Ignasi Cambra
Please do that. At least you seem to have the patience to do it. I wouldn't bother... On Jun 10, 2009, at 12:34 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > > Hi Maurice, > > I, too, am a proud (and active) NFB member. That doesn't negate that > this article was not a responsible or accurate portrayal. Do I expe

Re: mac voiceover in braille monitor

2009-06-10 Thread Ignasi Cambra
Of course this is just my opinion, but I like how commands are set for web browsing with VO. I never had trouble remembering them, or in any case I don't find them any harder than the ones for JAWS, NVDA or others. On Jun 10, 2009, at 1:17 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: > > It's true that commands ha

Re: How to dlwnload a file

2009-06-10 Thread Ignasi Cambra
Just press VO+space on the link to the file you need to download, and the downloads window in Safari will open with your file downloading. On Jun 10, 2009, at 3:21 PM, Jed Barton wrote: > > Hey guys, > What's the easiest way to download a file from a web sight? > How should I do a left or a rig

Re: Turning off the screen

2009-06-10 Thread Ignasi Cambra
control+option+shift+f11 On Jun 10, 2009, at 3:22 PM, Jed Barton wrote: > > Hey guys, > Anyone know how to turn on the screen curtin with the macbook? > > Thanks, > Jed > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goog

Re: Mac Mail and multiple accounts

2009-06-11 Thread Ignasi Cambra
I actually have two gmail accounts over here and they both work fine... On Jun 11, 2009, at 1:58 AM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote: > > Hello; After you set up the second account, did you go to mailbox > setting and click take all accounts online? Did you go into advance > settings and make sure you c

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-11 Thread Ignasi Cambra
onaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > ] On Behalf Of Ignasi Cambra > Sent: Tuesday, 9 June 2009 11:21 a.m. > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: voice over comes to the I phone > > It is just great. I'm wordless... I'll try to get a

Re: Multi finger jestures and desktop Macs

2009-06-11 Thread Ignasi Cambra
No, it probably won't work on older macbooks because their trackpads don't support multi tuch. On Jun 11, 2009, at 7:16 AM, ben mustill-rose wrote: > > Surely its just a software thing for all the mb's and mbp's though. > > On 11/06/2009, Justin Harford wrote: >> >> Or for that matter, will ol

Re: Multi finger jestures and desktop Macs

2009-06-12 Thread Ignasi Cambra
It's a hardware issue. I don't know if you already got the answer but oh well... I'm behind reading emails! On Jun 11, 2009, at 7:38 AM, ben mustill-rose wrote: > > But is it a issue of there drivers not supporting multi touch or an > actual hardware one? > >

Re: Safari VS Webkit explanation

2009-06-12 Thread Ignasi Cambra
For what I know, Chrome doesn't work with VO. Don't ask me why... Because theoretically it should. On Jun 12, 2009, at 12:13 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > HI, > > If it is exposed so. The Mac Alpha's are out now. > > Regards, > Alex, > > > On 11-Jun-09, at 7:42 PM, Mike Reiser wrote: > >> >> In

Re: mac voiceover in braille monitor

2009-06-12 Thread Ignasi Cambra
I totally agree. I think the VO quick start that exists in Leopard is enough, because it shows you how to navigate all kinds of controls, which in the end are the ones you find all over OS X and most applications. So what's wrong with it? Personally I found it very useful, along with the k

Re: tool to store and search several data

2009-06-12 Thread Ignasi Cambra
You can try using a database... I think the one that comes with Open Office is supposed to be accessible. On Jun 12, 2009, at 3:29 PM, william windels wrote: > > Hello all, > I am looking for a program to store different types of data and a > quick way to search specific parts of thi data. > >

Re: New IPhone 3GS list regarding accessibility

2009-06-12 Thread Ignasi Cambra
I think it's a good idea. Not everyone that owns a Mac necessarily wants to know about the iPhone, and vice versa. In my case I just send everything from vo-bs, macvoiceover and macvisionaries to the same mailbox using a rule, so many times I don't even pay attention to the list I'm readin

Re: strange issue with adium

2009-06-12 Thread Ignasi Cambra
The same thing happened to me, after I installed 10.5.7. Mail was also doing weird things, but somehow everything out of normal stopped happening at some point. Everything is perfect for me now. Isn't it weird? On Jun 12, 2009, at 7:32 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > Hi all. Has anyone else had

Re: Multi finger jestures and desktop Macs

2009-06-12 Thread Ignasi Cambra
> in March > or so. > > - Original Message - > From: "Ignasi Cambra" > To: > Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 7:29 PM > Subject: Re: Multi finger jestures and desktop Macs > > >> >> It's a hardware issue. I don't know if you already g

Re: Making Firefox Speak on the Mac

2009-06-13 Thread Ignasi Cambra
Firefox is only accessible if you use the Firevox plug-in, which provides very limited functionality. Unfortunately it is not accessible with VO as of now. On Jun 13, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Jane Jordan (GMail) wrote: > > Can someone re-send instructions on what I need to do to get Firefox > speak

Re: Mike With a DVD question.

2009-06-14 Thread Ignasi Cambra
Use Handbrake. It works really well.- On Jun 13, 2009, at 6:45 PM, Michael Huckabay wrote: > > I'm wundering if there is a free excessible program for ripping dvd's > to the mac and what it would be. If enyone would know where I could > find such a thing would they let me know. > Thx. > > > --~

Podcast about VO in Snow Leopard

2009-06-14 Thread Ignasi Cambra
Hello all, Here's the link for a podcast with a demo of VO working in Snow Leopard. Enjoy. http://download.yousendit.com/UmNKOGNUb0JlaFNGa1E9PQ Ignasi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries"