Of course this is just my opinion, but I like how commands are set for web browsing with VO. I never had trouble remembering them, or in any case I don't find them any harder than the ones for JAWS, NVDA or others. On Jun 10, 2009, at 1:17 PM, Ryan Mann wrote:
> > It's true that commands have to be learned for every program, but for > web browsing, they are a little more obvious with programs such as > System Access. "h" and shift+h is real easy to remember for moving > through headings, e and shift e for moving between edit boxes. I use > my mac for things such as burning CD's, listening to music and > checking email, but I like System Access on Windows for web browsing. > I will be excited to try web browsing on Snow Lepard though. > > On Jun 9, 2009, at 10:54 PM, James Dietz wrote: > >> >> Nearly everything they point out is negative. It's almost as if >> they're deliberately skipping over what the screenreader does well so >> that they can get right to the bad stuff. My favorite has to be the >> section where they discuss using voiceover with the internet - while >> there are some legitimate problems with group mode and ajax pages >> (which I would've agreed with if they'd been mentioned), it does >> present info in a logical form to me anyway. That's subjective, but >> they they go on to say that commands to move between different >> elements of a page were not readily apparent and had to be learned. >> Commands need to be learned for every program, including JAWS and >> Window-Eyes. Yeesh! They also mentioned the fact that vo+arrowing >> through elements was tedius. This is tricky, but that's pretty much >> how JFW handles it - with the exception that you can pgdn through a >> page to skip bigger chunks. They didn't mention that, so not sure if >> they're being entirely fair. The article raised some good points - >> training would help explain things like the infamous double-sided >> cursor (which they didn't quite realize existed - for the record VO >> was not mis-speaking characters) and use of the mac itself in >> combination with voiceover. Once Apple can sell a mac to blind users >> with some vo-specific training, they might be able to tap into the >> market a little better. Of course it's doubtful they will actually do >> this - blind services buy computers and software for working blind >> people. That means Microsoft Windows and JAWS (or window-eyes I >> guess) >> because that's what workplaces use. Apple seems to have accepted and >> embraced it's market position as the cool slick do-it-all magic box >> for home users. >> >> On 6/9/09, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote: >>> The biggest problem with this article I think is that they are >>> comparing >>> voice over too much to windows screen readers. While I like to >>> compare some >>> things about the mac to elements in windows such as the finder to >>> explorer, >>> and the doc to the windows task bar and quick launch, they did this >>> review >>> with way too much expectation for voice over and the mac to behave >>> like >>> windows. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Michael Reiser >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 6:40 PM >>> Subject: mac voiceover in braille monitor >>> >>> >>> Just thought I'd share this with everyone. The nfb featured vo in >>> the >>> june 2009 issue of the braille monitor. While I agree with some of >>> the >>> concerns here, I disaggree with quite a few especially that vo >>> should just >>> read everything automatically. Ironic that many of the concerns >>> put forth >>> will be addressed in snow lepard. Would love toÎ hear everyone >>> else's take >>> on this. >>> >>> >>> I'll paste the article here for easy reading. Braille Monitor >>> June 2009 >>> (back) (contents) (next) >>> >>> Report on the Ease of Access of the Apple OS 10.5 Leopard >>> Environment with >>> VoiceOver >>> by Wesley Majerus >>> >>> From the Editor: Almost as long as computers have dominated the >>> lives of >>> many Americans, some people have praised the Apple products with a >>> fervor >>> verging on the religious. The operating system has always been more >>> visually >>> intuitive than that of the PC, and manipulating graphics on Apple >>> products >>> is apparently both easy and satisfying. But since the Apple IIe in >>> the early >>> days, which seems to have incorporated some speech access, Apple >>> products >>> have been remarkably inaccessible to blind users. >>> >>> Now for the first time the Apple Macintosh operating system has been >>> equipped with VoiceOver, which provides more speech access than >>> blind people >>> have ever had on Apple products. But how good is it? How efficient >>> is the >>> speech? Does the blind user have access to every computer function? >>> International Braille and Technology Center Access Technology >>> Specialist >>> Wesley Majerus set out to put the Mac and VoiceOver through their >>> paces. >>> Here is his report: >>> >>> Apple's Macintosh computer is one of the only systems to have >>> integrated, >>> full-function screen-access software. Because it is a part of the >>> operating >>> system, it is usable out of the box and on the showroom floor. You >>> can >>> simply walk up to any Macintosh computer running OS 10.5 Leopard >>> and press >>> Command (CMD)+F5 to try out the screen-access software. In this >>> article I >>> outline some of my impressions of VoiceOver after the weeklong >>> evaluation I >>> recently undertook. Throughout this document reference will be made >>> to VO >>> keys or to pressing VO with other keys. These references are to the >>> VoiceOver keys, which are CTRL+Option and are held down in >>> conjunction with >>> other keyboard keys to perform tasks specific to the VoiceOver >>> screen-access >>> software. >>> >>> As I undertook the evaluation of VoiceOver's usability, I identified >>> several important tasks and uses for the Macintosh. These included >>> sending >>> and receiving email; browsing the Web; downloading files; and file >>> management, including moving and deleting files. I also wanted to >>> know >>> whether a user having difficulties could get help from the Mac OS X >>> help >>> utility. Because creating and editing documents is a central reason >>> to use a >>> computer, I evaluated the TextEdit word processing application. In >>> this >>> article these tasks will be presented in order of popularity. >>> People are >>> most likely to use their computers for text editing, email >>> management, >>> browsing the Web, and file management. These tasks will be >>> described in this >>> article, along with our overall opinions of the Mac experience with >>> VoiceOver. >>> >>> For the most part blind computer users take advantage of the Windows >>> operating system for their computing needs, so they are accustomed >>> to the >>> way that operating system delivers prompts, its keystrokes, and its >>> other >>> characteristics. They are also accustomed to the ways in which >>> Windows-based >>> screen-access software delivers information. Because Windows is so >>> entrenched in the blindness community, users need a way to learn a >>> new >>> operating system. The manual that Apple has produced, "VoiceOver >>> Getting >>> Started,” does not provide this comprehensive introduction. Though >>> it lays >>> out the commands for using VoiceOver, it does not explain how those >>> commands >>> can be used in conjunction with OS X to make it friendlier. Email >>> account >>> review and creation get no explanation of layout or use. It would >>> have been >>> better to have a document that combines VoiceOver commands with >>> those of OS >>> X so as to promote the use of the operating system first, with >>> VoiceOver >>> acting as its overlay. As an example, many Windows-based screen- >>> access >>> software manuals go into limited detail about Windows and the way >>> it works >>> with the screen-access software, especially in setting Windows and >>> application-specific preferences to make the screen-access software >>> work >>> better with the operating system or the application. This is not >>> done in the >>> VoiceOver manual. In Safari, for example, you can set up the >>> browser so the >>> Tab key will move you between elements. This is not the default >>> setting and >>> is not outlined anywhere in the VoiceOver documentation. In >>> addition, the >>> instructions for using Apple Mail do not address how to open or save >>> attachments. >>> >>> We have a few other concerns in the training and documentation >>> department. >>> The Apple VoiceOver tutorial is easy to use and is straightforward >>> to bring >>> up. We like the fact that this is offered and that it is integrated >>> into the >>> OS. VoiceOver has an audible learning-mode, but the sound effects >>> that >>> VoiceOver provides are often faint and difficult to distinguish. >>> >>> Two major problems with OS X and VoiceOver are consistency and >>> disorientation. As you are working with the system, especially >>> after editing >>> in dialogs, you often can not tell where you are when you are >>> finished. Many >>> Windows screen-access software packages signify that a dialog has >>> been >>> closed by telling you the window title that just opened or saying >>> "edit" to >>> tell you that you are back in an edit area. They also say “menu” or >>> “leaving >>> menu” as you enter and leave the menu. In VoiceOver, if you are >>> completing a >>> task that causes the computer to work on its own without further >>> input from >>> you, VoiceOver provides no automatic progress report to let you >>> know that >>> the computer is still processing. However, if you focus your >>> VoiceOver >>> cursor on the Progress Bar or other progress notification area, it >>> will >>> audibly click by default whenever this area changes. You can also >>> change a >>> setting in VoiceOver Preferences to have changes announced, but it >>> is >>> important to note that your focus must be on the Progress Bar or >>> other >>> notification area for either of these announcements to occur. >>> VoiceOver has >>> keys that you can use to move through an area. Sometimes in dialog >>> boxes you >>> can tab through controls, but at others you must use the special VO >>> keys. >>> When tabbing, you can often hear the control type (edit field, >>> check box, or >>> popup button) but do not hear what type of information you were to >>> enter. If >>> you use the VO keys, you hear control labels, but they are separate >>> from the >>> controls and control types. From a keystroke standpoint this means >>> that, for >>> each control in a dialog box, you have to move to the right twice >>> to get >>> both its label and the control itself. It would be more useful if >>> the >>> information in the labels could be combined with the control types >>> and >>> values and if you knew when you were required to use VO keys and >>> when you >>> could simply tab. >>> >>> One other aspect of VoiceOver that is problematic is the lack of >>> toggle >>> keys. In many screen-access programs you can toggle keyboard help >>> on and off >>> by pressing the same key. In VoiceOver you cannot do this because >>> CTRL+Option+K turns it on, and then you have to turn it off with >>> Escape. >>> This also happens in other places within the VoiceOver environment >>> such as >>> with Scrolling Mode. In the event that a password is to be entered, >>> no >>> feedback is given as you enter text into the password field. In >>> instances >>> where you simply use the space bar to check a checkbox, you do not >>> get >>> feedback about whether the checkbox is checked or unchecked. A good >>> example >>> of this is on the SMTP server setup page of Apple Mail. In dialogs >>> containing lists, you have to force VoiceOver to read the >>> highlighted item. >>> Moreover, VoiceOver does not tell you how many items are in the >>> list. When >>> working on the dock (the Mac’s version of the Windows task bar), >>> you can use >>> CMD+right and left arrows to move items around. VoiceOver, however, >>> provides >>> no feedback as you work. Clearly the program should provide some >>> indication >>> that items are being moved, and the item’s relationship to others >>> on the >>> dock should be described. >>> >>> Editing Text >>> >>> One of the primary uses for a computer, especially for new users, is >>> creating, editing, and reading documents. TextEdit is Mac OS X’s >>> primary >>> document management solution. A few tasks are particularly >>> important: >>> opening and navigating preexisting documents; creating new >>> documents; >>> spell-checking documents; changing formatting; and adding elements >>> such as >>> headers, footers, and tables. Opening documents works fairly well >>> using >>> VoiceOver. The only problem arises in dealing with the list of >>> files and >>> locations. Often in VoiceOver you are forced to “interact” with an >>> item, >>> which means telling VoiceOver that you want to work with this item >>> and this >>> item only in a dialog. For a longtime screen-access software user, >>> this >>> interaction is a new and foreign concept that adds more keystrokes >>> to an >>> already keystroke-intensive system. Also it is never clear when the >>> user >>> needs to interact with an item and when using arrow keys or other >>> means of >>> manipulation is sufficient. Once the document is open, you must >>> figure out >>> how to edit it. One of the issues that cause Windows users most >>> trouble is >>> the way VoiceOver reports where the cursor is when arrowing through, >>> backspacing, or forward-deleting text. Often, when arrowing across >>> a line of >>> text, VoiceOver repeats characters multiple times and reports an >>> incorrect >>> character under the cursor. When backspacing, it is difficult to >>> know which >>> character is about to be deleted, so sometimes you delete the wrong >>> character. The same problem occurs in forward delete because, >>> instead of >>> removing the character to the right of the cursor, deletion begins >>> with the >>> character under the cursor. >>> >>> Sometimes, when you are inserting text into the document, the >>> string drops >>> in at the wrong place because of incorrect character reporting. >>> Saving a >>> document is easy, as is starting a new document from scratch. Two >>> aspects of >>> the VoiceOver/TextEdit combo that cause difficulty are document >>> navigation >>> and say-all capability. There is no quick way to move to the top of >>> the >>> document or to its bottom with a single keystroke as Windows >>> provides. Later >>> in our research we found a new keystroke. In most edit areas you >>> can use >>> CMD+Up Arrow to move to the top of the document and CMD+Down Arrow >>> to move >>> to the bottom. The fact that this is an OSX keystroke further >>> illustrates >>> the need for documentation that includes both OSX keyboard commands >>> and >>> those for the screen-access software. VO+A is the keystroke denoted >>> for say >>> all, which reads the entire document. Unfortunately, no matter >>> where your >>> cursor is in the document, this keystroke starts at the top and >>> reads the >>> entire document, unless you are interacting with the scroll area. >>> >>> Throughout the operating system it is necessary to deal with data >>> presented in tables. This is especially true on the Internet and in >>> some >>> text documents. VoiceOver’s tutorial outlines keystrokes that can >>> read a >>> table by row or column. Unfortunately, this means that the >>> particular column >>> or row is read in its entirety. There seems to be no provision for >>> reading >>> the table cell-by-cell or to match the data in particular cells to >>> any >>> column or row headers. Reading tables this way can be quite >>> confusing since >>> making sense of the data in the way it is presented is not >>> straightforward. >>> The functionality to read a table cell by cell, reporting column >>> headers, >>> has been available in Windows-based screen readers for quite some >>> time and >>> is an important feature, especially in Internet applications. >>> >>> Making a document look professional is an important use of a text- >>> editing >>> program. This includes adding tab stops, headers, footers, tables, >>> and text >>> attributes to the document. When you are adding tabs by pressing >>> the Tab >>> key, VoiceOver will say “tab” and will let you know where tabs are >>> when you >>> arrow through the document. It provides no indication of how far >>> from the >>> left edge you have moved with each tab as some Windows screen-access >>> software programs report. Blind users cannot add tables to a >>> document. The >>> tables dialog, in which you define the rows and columns for each >>> table you >>> want to insert, reads very poorly. Interaction and use of VoiceOver >>> Keys >>> does not help remedy this poor reading. When adding lists and text >>> attributes to the document, you must first select text, as you do in >>> Windows. Take care when selecting lines of text because, if you are >>> not at >>> the beginning of a line, using the select line command will select >>> text only >>> from the cursor to the end of the line and then to that position on >>> the next >>> line. The command VO+F6 will report the text that has been >>> selected. It >>> would help if this command had a more easy-to-remember keystroke, >>> but it is >>> good that this function exists. When copying and pasting text, the >>> system >>> does say “copied” but does not give feedback when the paste >>> keystroke is >>> pressed. When you cut text, the Mac says “selection deleted.” It >>> should more >>> appropriately say “cut” so that the user knows that the text was >>> not just >>> deleted. >>> >>> Shortcut keys for adding text attributes like bold, italics, and >>> underline >>> work from the main document window. Reviewing the format menu >>> allows you to >>> see the checkmarks in front of options active in the text under the >>> cursor. >>> It would be nice if, like shortcut keys for adding text elements, a >>> simple >>> key stroke could add a list to already selected text. This said, >>> the menus >>> for selecting types of lists to be added are fairly easy to read. >>> It is >>> confusing, however, for similar types of numbered lists. It is >>> difficult to >>> tell whether, for example, you are adding roman numerals or arabic >>> numbers >>> since VoiceOver reads both as “1, 2, 3.” If you want to copy and >>> paste >>> styles, it is possible to do so using the copy and paste commands >>> and >>> options in the menu. VoiceOver contains an option that allows it to >>> read >>> text attributes such as bold, underline, or italics as they change >>> throughout the text. Though this works well in a document, >>> VoiceOver also >>> reads the attributes of the text within dialogs. Changing page >>> options >>> through the Page Setup dialog is impossible with VoiceOver. >>> Interacting with >>> controls within the dialog does not make them usable, and tabbing >>> around the >>> dialog does not provide meaningful feedback. >>> >>> Spell-checking is another important task in document management. >>> Unfortunately, this is one of the most difficult tasks in the Mac >>> environment. One of the biggest drawbacks to spell-checking on the >>> Mac is >>> the lack of a reliable option to check the entire document. In most >>> Windows-based scenarios, a user can choose such a function, and it >>> will >>> prompt at each misspelled word in its own dialog box. In this way >>> the user >>> can choose suggestions from a list and have them spelled >>> automatically. The >>> spell-checker can be instructed to ignore correctly spelled words >>> in a >>> single document or learn words that it has not recognized but that >>> are >>> commonly used. On the Macintosh with TextEdit, the user must deal >>> with each >>> misspelled word individually. CMD+; moves from word to word. Once >>> landed on >>> a misspelled word, you must use the Context Menu key VO+Shift+M to >>> pick >>> available options. Words that are offered as replacements are not >>> automatically spelled as the user moves through them; this is a >>> drawback >>> because an extra key must be pressed to make VoiceOver spell the >>> highlighted >>> suggestion. >>> >>> When TextEdit lands on a word suggestion, it is automatically >>> highlighted. >>> If you are distracted and forget that this is the case, you can >>> inadvertently delete the entire word by pressing any character key >>> on the >>> keyboard. The Mac does have an undo keystroke, which can be used >>> immediately >>> following the mistake if no other action has been performed. The >>> fact that a >>> user can so easily delete text is disturbing, however, because, if >>> the user >>> goes on to write something else without realizing what has >>> happened, the >>> text is gone forever. At times the CMD+; keystroke incorrectly >>> reports the >>> misspelled word. It often reads the last misspelled word, which is >>> now >>> correct, instead of the word the cursor is currently on. For >>> example, let’s >>> say we have the sentence “Mary hda a little lbam, whose fleece was >>> white as >>> snwo.” At the top of the document pressing CMD+ semicolon should >>> report the >>> first misspelled word as “hda” and should offer “had” as a >>> suggestion. This >>> first correction works fine. Press CMD+; again, and “lbam,” >>> corrected to >>> “lamb,” should be the next correction. However, often “had” (the >>> word that >>> was just corrected) will be read instead. This continues throughout >>> the >>> document. >>> >>> Browsing the Web >>> >>> Safari is the only Web browser that works with VoiceOver for >>> browsing the >>> Internet. Internet browsing with Safari and VoiceOver presents major >>> problems. Two of these issues can be somewhat mitigated by changing >>> some >>> settings. Under the Web area of the VoiceOver Utility, ensure that >>> "Move to >>> It When Loading a New Web Page" is enabled. In addition, in the >>> Safari >>> preferences, be sure to check "Press Tab Key to Move to Each Item >>> on a >>> Webpage." This can be found under Advanced Settings. Most screen- >>> access >>> software will read a Webpage when it is fully loaded, but VoiceOver >>> does not >>> do this. This is a problem because it is difficult to know when the >>> page is >>> fully loaded, and the user is often interested in having the screen- >>> access >>> software read the page content aloud automatically. If the user >>> wishes to >>> deal with the page in more detail, he or she can stop this reading >>> or wait >>> until it is finished and then explore the page. >>> >>> Detailed page navigation is extremely cumbersome with VoiceOver. >>> As it is >>> set out of the box, Safari does not use the Tab key to move between >>> links >>> and elements. With this setting changed, you can move between the >>> links and >>> form controls on the Webpage, but at times you are not interested >>> in just >>> the form controls and links. VoiceOver is also set not to move >>> directly to >>> the HTML content area out of the box. If this setting is not >>> changed, the >>> blind user cannot tell where he or she is positioned or how to get >>> to the >>> page content. Navigation by group is not accessible to blind users >>> because >>> the information is not presented predictably or logically, so >>> testing was >>> done primarily with VoiceOver set in Document Object Model (DOM) >>> navigation >>> mode. If you want to browse the Webpage and are not interested in >>> just >>> navigating through the controls, the process becomes quite >>> keystroke-intensive. First, one begins by interacting with the HTML >>> content >>> area. To read the text, keep hitting VO+Right Arrow. This reads the >>> text and >>> stops at any form controls. Then you must hit VO+Right Arrow again >>> to move >>> to and read the link or form control. Repeat these keystrokes until >>> you have >>> the information you want. The process is painstaking, distracting, >>> and >>> cumbersome. Keystrokes are available to move by headings or other >>> page >>> elements, but they are not immediately apparent and had to be >>> pointed out to >>> us. >>> >>> Because the Mac help system is primarily based on HTML, these >>> concerns >>> also apply to the Help Viewer application. While surfing the >>> Internet, it is >>> necessary at times to download and save files. Though Mac OS X >>> allows file >>> downloads, the process is ambiguous with VoiceOver. When you click >>> the >>> download link, the computer automatically downloads the file and >>> places it >>> in the Downloads folder. No indication is given that the download >>> has begun >>> or is complete. This leaves the blind user uncertain whether the >>> file has >>> downloaded or the computer is encountering difficulty. >>> >>> Managing Mail >>> >>> Apple Mail is the mail-reading application in Mac OS X. When using >>> an >>> application like Mail with screen-access software, a blind user >>> should be >>> able to set up the mail account, initiate sending and receiving new >>> messages, read incoming mail, compose and send new messages, attach >>> files to >>> outgoing messages, and deal with attachments that arrived with >>> incoming >>> mail. Apple Mail setup had one major problem. VoiceOver would not >>> read the >>> field labeled “full name,” making the user unsure what goes in the >>> field. >>> Two areas of the setup process contained multipage dialogs. To get >>> to the >>> second and following tabs of these dialogs, the user needs to arrow >>> to the >>> desired tab and then press VO+Space to activate it. It would be more >>> straightforward if there were only one keystroke to move to and >>> activate a >>> tab. If the user only arrows to the tab wanted and then moves away, >>> nothing >>> changes. The lack of audible feedback is confusing because the user >>> does not >>> see the screen change so cannot figure out why moving to the second >>> tab does >>> not bring up new options. This problem occurs when editing the SMTP >>> server >>> list and on the Account Information screen. >>> >>> We found a few problems with receiving mail as well. In each message >>> VoiceOver reads a long text string, including the words “unread,” >>> “body,” >>> “subject,” and “sender.” If a field is blank, the title is still >>> read >>> followed by the word “blank.” Though all of this information is >>> helpful, it >>> could be more concise: "unread, john smith, subject today’s >>> meeting,” for >>> example. Empty field headings and the word “blank” do not need to >>> be read as >>> VoiceOver now does. VoiceOver should also be reporting the presence >>> of >>> attachments as the user looks through the message list. For example, >>> “Attachment John Smith, Subject Meeting.” If a message does have an >>> attachment, it is difficult to figure out how to save it to the >>> computer. >>> The VoiceOver Getting Started manual does not explain how to deal >>> with >>> message attachments. A detailed explanation of saving and opening >>> attached >>> files should be added to the manual. In addition, the Quick Look >>> panel, >>> which presumably allows one to preview an attachment, did not read >>> with >>> VoiceOver. If you are using Mail with multiple accounts, it is >>> extremely >>> difficult to know that mail has been successfully received and into >>> which >>> mailbox new mail has arrived. >>> >>> Dealing with Files >>> >>> It is important to manage efficiently the many files that fill a >>> computer >>> system. This is doable with the Mac, but we have a few concerns. A >>> user must >>> be able to manipulate the table containing the list of files, but >>> doing so >>> adds extra keystrokes. The Mac reports that a file has been copied >>> when you >>> press the Copy command. Then, when you move to the receiving folder >>> to paste >>> the file there, you get auditory feedback that a transfer has taken >>> place, >>> but only by a faint sound, no verbal confirmation. >>> >>> During testing we had to call Apple tech support. One of the first >>> things >>> required was the system’s serial number, which was very difficult >>> to find. >>> The technician did not know how to help a VoiceOver user and could >>> not >>> provide clear instructions. This was another instance in which I >>> was not >>> sure whether I needed to interact with the data in the About this >>> Mac >>> window. I had to use VoiceOver keys, which took a bit of time to >>> figure out. >>> >>> Two other important applications are the address book and the >>> calendar. >>> Calendaring is provided by iCal, Apple’s Calendar application, >>> which appears >>> to be totally inaccessible to VoiceOver. On some levels the calendar >>> recognizes that the date is set properly within the operating >>> system, but >>> VoiceOver keeps announcing December 31, 2000. If you attempt >>> interaction >>> with the Calendar View part of the screen, nothing happens. When >>> you attempt >>> to create an event, the title can be entered, but arrowing, >>> pressing Enter >>> or performing any other keystroke that might make progress toward >>> entering >>> other event data seems to take us out to the Calendar window. >>> Sometimes I >>> can find events, but I can find no pattern for doing so. >>> >>> We also tested the Address Book application that ships with OS X. >>> It was >>> easy to look through the names of people already in the address >>> book, after >>> interacting with the table containing them. We made a mistake in >>> the name >>> area while creating an entry. It took a long time to figure out how >>> to tell >>> OS X that an edit needed to be made and more time to figure out how >>> to get >>> VoiceOver to work with and manipulate the edit controls. Starting >>> and >>> stopping interacting with various parts of the window and clicking >>> options >>> throughout the menus finally allowed the edit. >>> >>> Summary >>> >>> The Apple VoiceOver screen-access software does allow blind users to >>> access most applications that ship with the Macintosh OSX Leopard. >>> Unfortunately, doing so is extremely keystroke intensive. >>> Calendaring is >>> impossible with VoiceOver because nothing is spoken automatically. >>> The >>> Interact process is both inconsistent and foreign to screen-access >>> software >>> users. It also adds many more keystrokes to an already keystroke- >>> intensive >>> screen-reading experience. Browsing the Internet and using Mac help >>> are two >>> of the most cumbersome tasks in VoiceOver because VoiceOver does >>> not begin >>> to read automatically, and, even after interacting with the HTML >>> content >>> area, one must continuously VO+Right Arrow to read even the >>> shortest text >>> between links. Last and most important, the training materials >>> provided for >>> VoiceOver should be modified. Background in using OSX is not >>> provided, and >>> settings that make VoiceOver behave better with applications are not >>> provided anywhere. Though we liked the fact that the tutorial for >>> VoiceOver >>> is tightly integrated into the operating system and easy to invoke, >>> we wish >>> it provided more tips on using OS X with VoiceOver as opposed to >>> just >>> highlighting VoiceOver commands and not relating them to the >>> operating >>> system. As tasks are undertaken, the screen-access software should >>> speak >>> automatically. Examples of this are the newly loaded page in Safari >>> and >>> progress messages while the system is working on long tasks. >>> >>> Though this report is based on Mac OSX 10.5 Leopard, Apple is set to >>> release a new operating system called Snow Leopard sometime this >>> year. >>> Because VoiceOver is a part of the operating system, changes will >>> no doubt >>> be made. We will have to analyze these tasks and the new operating >>> system, >>> its features, and any changes to VoiceOver to evaluate their >>> completion. >>> Anne Taylor, the National Federation of the Blind Jernigan >>> Institute's >>> director of access technology says: "Though we appreciate the fact >>> that >>> Apple has included the VoiceOver screen-access software as a part >>> of the Mac >>> OS operating system, we cannot at present recommend it as a >>> productivity >>> tool for the blind. We cannot recommend any tool, even if it is >>> free, if it >>> hampers the productivity of the blind user." >>> >>> If you are curious about the Macintosh and want to test drive >>> VoiceOver in >>> a store or on a friend or colleague’s Macintosh, here are a few >>> keystrokes >>> that might be helpful: >>> >>> CMD+F5 starts the VoiceOver screen-access software. >>> CMD+Option+CTRL+F8 starts a brief VoiceOver tutorial. >>> Finally, Pressing "VO+F8" (the VO keys are Control and Option) >>> opens the >>> VoiceOver Utility to configure and customize the VoiceOver screen- >>> access >>> software. >>> >>> You can learn more about VoiceOver at >>> <www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover>. Visit the National >>> Federation of >>> the Blind access technology Webpage at <http://www.nfb.org>, then >>> click >>> Products and Technology, then Technology Center. 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