Of course this is just my opinion, but I like how commands are set for  
web browsing with VO. I never had trouble remembering them, or in any  
case I don't find them any harder than the ones for JAWS, NVDA or  
others.
On Jun 10, 2009, at 1:17 PM, Ryan Mann wrote:

>
> It's true that commands have to be learned for every program, but for
> web browsing, they are a little more obvious with programs such as
> System Access.  "h" and shift+h is real easy to remember for moving
> through headings, e and shift e for moving between edit boxes.  I use
> my mac for things such as burning CD's, listening to music and
> checking email, but I like System Access on Windows for web browsing.
> I will be excited to try web browsing on Snow Lepard though.
>
> On Jun 9, 2009, at 10:54 PM, James Dietz wrote:
>
>>
>> Nearly everything they point out is negative. It's almost as if
>> they're deliberately skipping over what the screenreader does well so
>> that they can get right to the bad stuff.  My favorite has to be the
>> section where they discuss using voiceover with the internet - while
>> there are some legitimate problems with group mode and ajax pages
>> (which I would've agreed with if they'd been mentioned), it does
>> present info in a logical form to me anyway. That's subjective, but
>> they they go on to say that commands to move between different
>> elements of a page were not readily apparent and had to be learned.
>> Commands need to be learned for every program, including JAWS and
>> Window-Eyes. Yeesh! They also mentioned the fact that vo+arrowing
>> through elements was tedius. This is tricky, but that's pretty much
>> how JFW handles it - with the exception that you can pgdn through a
>> page to skip bigger chunks. They didn't mention that, so not sure if
>> they're being entirely fair. The article raised some good points -
>> training would help explain things like the infamous double-sided
>> cursor (which they didn't quite realize existed - for the record VO
>> was not mis-speaking characters) and use of the mac itself in
>> combination with voiceover.  Once Apple can sell a mac to blind users
>> with some vo-specific training, they might be able to tap into the
>> market a little better. Of course it's doubtful they will actually do
>> this - blind services buy computers and software for working blind
>> people. That means Microsoft Windows and JAWS (or window-eyes I  
>> guess)
>> because that's what workplaces use. Apple seems to have accepted and
>> embraced it's market position as the cool slick do-it-all magic box
>> for home users.
>>
>> On 6/9/09, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote:
>>> The biggest problem with this article I think is that they are
>>> comparing
>>> voice over too much to windows screen readers. While I like to
>>> compare some
>>> things about the mac to elements in windows such as the finder to
>>> explorer,
>>> and the doc to the windows task bar and quick launch, they did this
>>> review
>>> with way too much expectation for voice over and the mac to behave
>>> like
>>> windows.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Michael Reiser
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 6:40 PM
>>> Subject: mac voiceover in braille monitor
>>>
>>>
>>> Just thought I'd share this with everyone.  The nfb featured vo in
>>> the
>>> june 2009 issue of the braille monitor.  While I agree with some of
>>> the
>>> concerns here, I disaggree with quite a few especially that vo
>>> should just
>>> read everything automatically.  Ironic that many of the concerns
>>> put forth
>>> will be addressed in snow lepard.  Would love toÎ hear everyone
>>> else's take
>>> on this.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'll paste the article here for easy reading.  Braille Monitor
>>>                                      June 2009
>>> (back) (contents) (next)
>>>
>>> Report on the Ease of Access of the Apple OS 10.5 Leopard
>>> Environment with
>>> VoiceOver
>>> by Wesley Majerus
>>>
>>> From the Editor: Almost as long as computers have dominated the
>>> lives of
>>> many Americans, some people have praised the Apple products with a
>>> fervor
>>> verging on the religious. The operating system has always been more
>>> visually
>>> intuitive than that of the PC, and manipulating graphics on Apple
>>> products
>>> is apparently both easy and satisfying. But since the Apple IIe in
>>> the early
>>> days, which seems to have incorporated some speech access, Apple
>>> products
>>> have been remarkably inaccessible to blind users.
>>>
>>> Now for the first time the Apple Macintosh operating system has been
>>> equipped with VoiceOver, which provides more speech access than
>>> blind people
>>> have ever had on Apple products. But how good is it? How efficient
>>> is the
>>> speech? Does the blind user have access to every computer function?
>>> International Braille and Technology Center Access Technology
>>> Specialist
>>> Wesley Majerus set out to put the Mac and VoiceOver through their
>>> paces.
>>> Here is his report:
>>>
>>> Apple's Macintosh computer is one of the only systems to have
>>> integrated,
>>> full-function screen-access software. Because it is a part of the
>>> operating
>>> system, it is usable out of the box and on the showroom floor. You
>>> can
>>> simply walk up to any Macintosh computer running OS 10.5 Leopard
>>> and press
>>> Command (CMD)+F5 to try out the screen-access software. In this
>>> article I
>>> outline some of my impressions of VoiceOver after the weeklong
>>> evaluation I
>>> recently undertook. Throughout this document reference will be made
>>> to VO
>>> keys or to pressing VO with other keys. These references are to the
>>> VoiceOver keys, which are CTRL+Option and are held down in
>>> conjunction with
>>> other keyboard keys to perform tasks specific to the VoiceOver
>>> screen-access
>>> software.
>>>
>>> As I undertook the evaluation of VoiceOver's usability, I identified
>>> several important tasks and uses for the Macintosh. These included
>>> sending
>>> and receiving email; browsing the Web; downloading files; and file
>>> management, including moving and deleting files. I also wanted to
>>> know
>>> whether a user having difficulties could get help from the Mac OS X
>>> help
>>> utility. Because creating and editing documents is a central reason
>>> to use a
>>> computer, I evaluated the TextEdit word processing application. In
>>> this
>>> article these tasks will be presented in order of popularity.
>>> People are
>>> most likely to use their computers for text editing, email
>>> management,
>>> browsing the Web, and file management. These tasks will be
>>> described in this
>>> article, along with our overall opinions of the Mac experience with
>>> VoiceOver.
>>>
>>> For the most part blind computer users take advantage of the Windows
>>> operating system for their computing needs, so they are accustomed
>>> to the
>>> way that operating system delivers prompts, its keystrokes, and its
>>> other
>>> characteristics. They are also accustomed to the ways in which
>>> Windows-based
>>> screen-access software delivers information. Because Windows is so
>>> entrenched in the blindness community, users need a way to learn a
>>> new
>>> operating system. The manual that Apple has produced, "VoiceOver
>>> Getting
>>> Started,” does not provide this comprehensive introduction. Though
>>> it lays
>>> out the commands for using VoiceOver, it does not explain how those
>>> commands
>>> can be used in conjunction with OS X to make it friendlier. Email
>>> account
>>> review and creation get no explanation of layout or use. It would
>>> have been
>>> better to have a document that combines VoiceOver commands with
>>> those of OS
>>> X so as to promote the use of the operating system first, with
>>> VoiceOver
>>> acting as its overlay. As an example, many Windows-based screen-
>>> access
>>> software manuals go into limited detail about Windows and the way
>>> it works
>>> with the screen-access software, especially in setting Windows and
>>> application-specific preferences to make the screen-access software
>>> work
>>> better with the operating system or the application. This is not
>>> done in the
>>> VoiceOver manual. In Safari, for example, you can set up the
>>> browser so the
>>> Tab key will move you between elements. This is not the default
>>> setting and
>>> is not outlined anywhere in the VoiceOver documentation. In
>>> addition, the
>>> instructions for using Apple Mail do not address how to open or save
>>> attachments.
>>>
>>> We have a few other concerns in the training and documentation
>>> department.
>>> The Apple VoiceOver tutorial is easy to use and is straightforward
>>> to bring
>>> up. We like the fact that this is offered and that it is integrated
>>> into the
>>> OS. VoiceOver has an audible learning-mode, but the sound effects
>>> that
>>> VoiceOver provides are often faint and difficult to distinguish.
>>>
>>> Two major problems with OS X and VoiceOver are consistency and
>>> disorientation. As you are working with the system, especially
>>> after editing
>>> in dialogs, you often can not tell where you are when you are
>>> finished. Many
>>> Windows screen-access software packages signify that a dialog has
>>> been
>>> closed by telling you the window title that just opened or saying
>>> "edit" to
>>> tell you that you are back in an edit area. They also say “menu” or
>>> “leaving
>>> menu” as you enter and leave the menu. In VoiceOver, if you are
>>> completing a
>>> task that causes the computer to work on its own without further
>>> input from
>>> you, VoiceOver provides no automatic progress report to let you
>>> know that
>>> the computer is still processing. However, if you focus your
>>> VoiceOver
>>> cursor on the Progress Bar or other progress notification area, it
>>> will
>>> audibly click by default whenever this area changes. You can also
>>> change a
>>> setting in VoiceOver Preferences to have changes announced, but it  
>>> is
>>> important to note that your focus must be on the Progress Bar or
>>> other
>>> notification area for either of these announcements to occur.
>>> VoiceOver has
>>> keys that you can use to move through an area. Sometimes in dialog
>>> boxes you
>>> can tab through controls, but at others you must use the special VO
>>> keys.
>>> When tabbing, you can often hear the control type (edit field,
>>> check box, or
>>> popup button) but do not hear what type of information you were to
>>> enter. If
>>> you use the VO keys, you hear control labels, but they are separate
>>> from the
>>> controls and control types. From a keystroke standpoint this means
>>> that, for
>>> each control in a dialog box, you have to move to the right twice
>>> to get
>>> both its label and the control itself. It would be more useful if  
>>> the
>>> information in the labels could be combined with the control types
>>> and
>>> values and if you knew when you were required to use VO keys and
>>> when you
>>> could simply tab.
>>>
>>> One other aspect of VoiceOver that is problematic is the lack of
>>> toggle
>>> keys. In many screen-access programs you can toggle keyboard help
>>> on and off
>>> by pressing the same key. In VoiceOver you cannot do this because
>>> CTRL+Option+K turns it on, and then you have to turn it off with
>>> Escape.
>>> This also happens in other places within the VoiceOver environment
>>> such as
>>> with Scrolling Mode. In the event that a password is to be entered,
>>> no
>>> feedback is given as you enter text into the password field. In
>>> instances
>>> where you simply use the space bar to check a checkbox, you do not
>>> get
>>> feedback about whether the checkbox is checked or unchecked. A good
>>> example
>>> of this is on the SMTP server setup page of Apple Mail. In dialogs
>>> containing lists, you have to force VoiceOver to read the
>>> highlighted item.
>>> Moreover, VoiceOver does not tell you how many items are in the
>>> list. When
>>> working on the dock (the Mac’s version of the Windows task bar),
>>> you can use
>>> CMD+right and left arrows to move items around. VoiceOver, however,
>>> provides
>>> no feedback as you work. Clearly the program should provide some
>>> indication
>>> that items are being moved, and the item’s relationship to others
>>> on the
>>> dock should be described.
>>>
>>> Editing Text
>>>
>>> One of the primary uses for a computer, especially for new users, is
>>> creating, editing, and reading documents. TextEdit is Mac OS X’s
>>> primary
>>> document management solution. A few tasks are particularly  
>>> important:
>>> opening and navigating preexisting documents; creating new  
>>> documents;
>>> spell-checking documents; changing formatting; and adding elements
>>> such as
>>> headers, footers, and tables. Opening documents works fairly well
>>> using
>>> VoiceOver. The only problem arises in dealing with the list of
>>> files and
>>> locations. Often in VoiceOver you are forced to “interact” with an
>>> item,
>>> which means telling VoiceOver that you want to work with this item
>>> and this
>>> item only in a dialog. For a longtime screen-access software user,
>>> this
>>> interaction is a new and foreign concept that adds more keystrokes
>>> to an
>>> already keystroke-intensive system. Also it is never clear when the
>>> user
>>> needs to interact with an item and when using arrow keys or other
>>> means of
>>> manipulation is sufficient. Once the document is open, you must
>>> figure out
>>> how to edit it. One of the issues that cause Windows users most
>>> trouble is
>>> the way VoiceOver reports where the cursor is when arrowing through,
>>> backspacing, or forward-deleting text. Often, when arrowing across
>>> a line of
>>> text, VoiceOver repeats characters multiple times and reports an
>>> incorrect
>>> character under the cursor. When backspacing, it is difficult to
>>> know which
>>> character is about to be deleted, so sometimes you delete the wrong
>>> character. The same problem occurs in forward delete because,
>>> instead of
>>> removing the character to the right of the cursor, deletion begins
>>> with the
>>> character under the cursor.
>>>
>>> Sometimes, when you are inserting text into the document, the
>>> string drops
>>> in at the wrong place because of incorrect character reporting.
>>> Saving a
>>> document is easy, as is starting a new document from scratch. Two
>>> aspects of
>>> the VoiceOver/TextEdit combo that cause difficulty are document
>>> navigation
>>> and say-all capability. There is no quick way to move to the top of
>>> the
>>> document or to its bottom with a single keystroke as Windows
>>> provides. Later
>>> in our research we found a new keystroke. In most edit areas you
>>> can use
>>> CMD+Up Arrow to move to the top of the document and CMD+Down Arrow
>>> to move
>>> to the bottom. The fact that this is an OSX keystroke further
>>> illustrates
>>> the need for documentation that includes both OSX keyboard commands
>>> and
>>> those for the screen-access software. VO+A is the keystroke denoted
>>> for say
>>> all, which reads the entire document. Unfortunately, no matter
>>> where your
>>> cursor is in the document, this keystroke starts at the top and
>>> reads the
>>> entire document, unless you are interacting with the scroll area.
>>>
>>> Throughout the operating system it is necessary to deal with data
>>> presented in tables. This is especially true on the Internet and in
>>> some
>>> text documents. VoiceOver’s tutorial outlines keystrokes that can
>>> read a
>>> table by row or column. Unfortunately, this means that the
>>> particular column
>>> or row is read in its entirety. There seems to be no provision for
>>> reading
>>> the table cell-by-cell or to match the data in particular cells to
>>> any
>>> column or row headers. Reading tables this way can be quite
>>> confusing since
>>> making sense of the data in the way it is presented is not
>>> straightforward.
>>> The functionality to read a table cell by cell, reporting column
>>> headers,
>>> has been available in Windows-based screen readers for quite some
>>> time and
>>> is an important feature, especially in Internet applications.
>>>
>>> Making a document look professional is an important use of a text-
>>> editing
>>> program. This includes adding tab stops, headers, footers, tables,
>>> and text
>>> attributes to the document. When you are adding tabs by pressing
>>> the Tab
>>> key, VoiceOver will say “tab” and will let you know where tabs are
>>> when you
>>> arrow through the document. It provides no indication of how far
>>> from the
>>> left edge you have moved with each tab as some Windows screen-access
>>> software programs report. Blind users cannot add tables to a
>>> document. The
>>> tables dialog, in which you define the rows and columns for each
>>> table you
>>> want to insert, reads very poorly. Interaction and use of VoiceOver
>>> Keys
>>> does not help remedy this poor reading. When adding lists and text
>>> attributes to the document, you must first select text, as you do in
>>> Windows. Take care when selecting lines of text because, if you are
>>> not at
>>> the beginning of a line, using the select line command will select
>>> text only
>>> from the cursor to the end of the line and then to that position on
>>> the next
>>> line. The command VO+F6 will report the text that has been
>>> selected. It
>>> would help if this command had a more easy-to-remember keystroke,
>>> but it is
>>> good that this function exists. When copying and pasting text, the
>>> system
>>> does say “copied” but does not give feedback when the paste
>>> keystroke is
>>> pressed. When you cut text, the Mac says “selection deleted.” It
>>> should more
>>> appropriately say “cut” so that the user knows that the text was
>>> not just
>>> deleted.
>>>
>>> Shortcut keys for adding text attributes like bold, italics, and
>>> underline
>>> work from the main document window. Reviewing the format menu
>>> allows you to
>>> see the checkmarks in front of options active in the text under the
>>> cursor.
>>> It would be nice if, like shortcut keys for adding text elements, a
>>> simple
>>> key stroke could add a list to already selected text. This said,
>>> the menus
>>> for selecting types of lists to be added are fairly easy to read.
>>> It is
>>> confusing, however, for similar types of numbered lists. It is
>>> difficult to
>>> tell whether, for example, you are adding roman numerals or arabic
>>> numbers
>>> since VoiceOver reads both as “1, 2, 3.” If you want to copy and
>>> paste
>>> styles, it is possible to do so using the copy and paste commands  
>>> and
>>> options in the menu. VoiceOver contains an option that allows it to
>>> read
>>> text attributes such as bold, underline, or italics as they change
>>> throughout the text. Though this works well in a document,
>>> VoiceOver also
>>> reads the attributes of the text within dialogs. Changing page
>>> options
>>> through the Page Setup dialog is impossible with VoiceOver.
>>> Interacting with
>>> controls within the dialog does not make them usable, and tabbing
>>> around the
>>> dialog does not provide meaningful feedback.
>>>
>>> Spell-checking is another important task in document management.
>>> Unfortunately, this is one of the most difficult tasks in the Mac
>>> environment. One of the biggest drawbacks to spell-checking on the
>>> Mac is
>>> the lack of a reliable option to check the entire document. In most
>>> Windows-based scenarios, a user can choose such a function, and it
>>> will
>>> prompt at each misspelled word in its own dialog box. In this way
>>> the user
>>> can choose suggestions from a list and have them spelled
>>> automatically. The
>>> spell-checker can be instructed to ignore correctly spelled words
>>> in a
>>> single document or learn words that it has not recognized but that
>>> are
>>> commonly used. On the Macintosh with TextEdit, the user must deal
>>> with each
>>> misspelled word individually. CMD+; moves from word to word. Once
>>> landed on
>>> a misspelled word, you must use the Context Menu key VO+Shift+M to
>>> pick
>>> available options. Words that are offered as replacements are not
>>> automatically spelled as the user moves through them; this is a
>>> drawback
>>> because an extra key must be pressed to make VoiceOver spell the
>>> highlighted
>>> suggestion.
>>>
>>> When TextEdit lands on a word suggestion, it is automatically
>>> highlighted.
>>> If you are distracted and forget that this is the case, you can
>>> inadvertently delete the entire word by pressing any character key
>>> on the
>>> keyboard. The Mac does have an undo keystroke, which can be used
>>> immediately
>>> following the mistake if no other action has been performed. The
>>> fact that a
>>> user can so easily delete text is disturbing, however, because, if
>>> the user
>>> goes on to write something else without realizing what has
>>> happened, the
>>> text is gone forever. At times the CMD+; keystroke incorrectly
>>> reports the
>>> misspelled word. It often reads the last misspelled word, which is
>>> now
>>> correct, instead of the word the cursor is currently on. For
>>> example, let’s
>>> say we have the sentence “Mary hda a little lbam, whose fleece was
>>> white as
>>> snwo.” At the top of the document pressing CMD+ semicolon should
>>> report the
>>> first misspelled word as “hda” and should offer “had” as a
>>> suggestion. This
>>> first correction works fine. Press CMD+; again, and “lbam,”
>>> corrected to
>>> “lamb,” should be the next correction. However, often “had” (the
>>> word that
>>> was just corrected) will be read instead. This continues throughout
>>> the
>>> document.
>>>
>>> Browsing the Web
>>>
>>> Safari is the only Web browser that works with VoiceOver for
>>> browsing the
>>> Internet. Internet browsing with Safari and VoiceOver presents major
>>> problems. Two of these issues can be somewhat mitigated by changing
>>> some
>>> settings. Under the Web area of the VoiceOver Utility, ensure that
>>> "Move to
>>> It When Loading a New Web Page" is enabled. In addition, in the
>>> Safari
>>> preferences, be sure to check "Press Tab Key to Move to Each Item
>>> on a
>>> Webpage." This can be found under Advanced Settings. Most screen-
>>> access
>>> software will read a Webpage when it is fully loaded, but VoiceOver
>>> does not
>>> do this. This is a problem because it is difficult to know when the
>>> page is
>>> fully loaded, and the user is often interested in having the screen-
>>> access
>>> software read the page content aloud automatically. If the user
>>> wishes to
>>> deal with the page in more detail, he or she can stop this reading
>>> or wait
>>> until it is finished and then explore the page.
>>>
>>> Detailed page navigation is extremely cumbersome with VoiceOver.
>>> As it is
>>> set out of the box, Safari does not use the Tab key to move between
>>> links
>>> and elements. With this setting changed, you can move between the
>>> links and
>>> form controls on the Webpage, but at times you are not interested
>>> in just
>>> the form controls and links. VoiceOver is also set not to move
>>> directly to
>>> the HTML content area out of the box. If this setting is not
>>> changed, the
>>> blind user cannot tell where he or she is positioned or how to get
>>> to the
>>> page content. Navigation by group is not accessible to blind users
>>> because
>>> the information is not presented predictably or logically, so
>>> testing was
>>> done primarily with VoiceOver set in Document Object Model (DOM)
>>> navigation
>>> mode. If you want to browse the Webpage and are not interested in
>>> just
>>> navigating through the controls, the process becomes quite
>>> keystroke-intensive. First, one begins by interacting with the HTML
>>> content
>>> area. To read the text, keep hitting VO+Right Arrow. This reads the
>>> text and
>>> stops at any form controls. Then you must hit VO+Right Arrow again
>>> to move
>>> to and read the link or form control. Repeat these keystrokes until
>>> you have
>>> the information you want. The process is painstaking, distracting,
>>> and
>>> cumbersome. Keystrokes are available to move by headings or other
>>> page
>>> elements, but they are not immediately apparent and had to be
>>> pointed out to
>>> us.
>>>
>>> Because the Mac help system is primarily based on HTML, these
>>> concerns
>>> also apply to the Help Viewer application. While surfing the
>>> Internet, it is
>>> necessary at times to download and save files. Though Mac OS X
>>> allows file
>>> downloads, the process is ambiguous with VoiceOver. When you click
>>> the
>>> download link, the computer automatically downloads the file and
>>> places it
>>> in the Downloads folder. No indication is given that the download
>>> has begun
>>> or is complete. This leaves the blind user uncertain whether the
>>> file has
>>> downloaded or the computer is encountering difficulty.
>>>
>>> Managing Mail
>>>
>>> Apple Mail is the mail-reading application in Mac OS X. When using
>>> an
>>> application like Mail with screen-access software, a blind user
>>> should be
>>> able to set up the mail account, initiate sending and receiving new
>>> messages, read incoming mail, compose and send new messages, attach
>>> files to
>>> outgoing messages, and deal with attachments that arrived with
>>> incoming
>>> mail. Apple Mail setup had one major problem. VoiceOver would not
>>> read the
>>> field labeled “full name,” making the user unsure what goes in the
>>> field.
>>> Two areas of the setup process contained multipage dialogs. To get
>>> to the
>>> second and following tabs of these dialogs, the user needs to arrow
>>> to the
>>> desired tab and then press VO+Space to activate it. It would be more
>>> straightforward if there were only one keystroke to move to and
>>> activate a
>>> tab. If the user only arrows to the tab wanted and then moves away,
>>> nothing
>>> changes. The lack of audible feedback is confusing because the user
>>> does not
>>> see the screen change so cannot figure out why moving to the second
>>> tab does
>>> not bring up new options. This problem occurs when editing the SMTP
>>> server
>>> list and on the Account Information screen.
>>>
>>> We found a few problems with receiving mail as well. In each message
>>> VoiceOver reads a long text string, including the words “unread,”
>>> “body,”
>>> “subject,” and “sender.” If a field is blank, the title is still  
>>> read
>>> followed by the word “blank.” Though all of this information is
>>> helpful, it
>>> could be more concise: "unread, john smith, subject today’s
>>> meeting,” for
>>> example. Empty field headings and the word “blank” do not need to
>>> be read as
>>> VoiceOver now does. VoiceOver should also be reporting the presence
>>> of
>>> attachments as the user looks through the message list. For example,
>>> “Attachment John Smith, Subject Meeting.” If a message does have an
>>> attachment, it is difficult to figure out how to save it to the
>>> computer.
>>> The VoiceOver Getting Started manual does not explain how to deal
>>> with
>>> message attachments. A detailed explanation of saving and opening
>>> attached
>>> files should be added to the manual. In addition, the Quick Look
>>> panel,
>>> which presumably allows one to preview an attachment, did not read
>>> with
>>> VoiceOver. If you are using Mail with multiple accounts, it is
>>> extremely
>>> difficult to know that mail has been successfully received and into
>>> which
>>> mailbox new mail has arrived.
>>>
>>> Dealing with Files
>>>
>>> It is important to manage efficiently the many files that fill a
>>> computer
>>> system. This is doable with the Mac, but we have a few concerns. A
>>> user must
>>> be able to manipulate the table containing the list of files, but
>>> doing so
>>> adds extra keystrokes. The Mac reports that a file has been copied
>>> when you
>>> press the Copy command. Then, when you move to the receiving folder
>>> to paste
>>> the file there, you get auditory feedback that a transfer has taken
>>> place,
>>> but only by a faint sound, no verbal confirmation.
>>>
>>> During testing we had to call Apple tech support. One of the first
>>> things
>>> required was the system’s serial number, which was very difficult
>>> to find.
>>> The technician did not know how to help a VoiceOver user and could
>>> not
>>> provide clear instructions. This was another instance in which I
>>> was not
>>> sure whether I needed to interact with the data in the About this  
>>> Mac
>>> window. I had to use VoiceOver keys, which took a bit of time to
>>> figure out.
>>>
>>> Two other important applications are the address book and the
>>> calendar.
>>> Calendaring is provided by iCal, Apple’s Calendar application,
>>> which appears
>>> to be totally inaccessible to VoiceOver. On some levels the calendar
>>> recognizes that the date is set properly within the operating
>>> system, but
>>> VoiceOver keeps announcing December 31, 2000. If you attempt
>>> interaction
>>> with the Calendar View part of the screen, nothing happens. When
>>> you attempt
>>> to create an event, the title can be entered, but arrowing,
>>> pressing Enter
>>> or performing any other keystroke that might make progress toward
>>> entering
>>> other event data seems to take us out to the Calendar window.
>>> Sometimes I
>>> can find events, but I can find no pattern for doing so.
>>>
>>> We also tested the Address Book application that ships with OS X.
>>> It was
>>> easy to look through the names of people already in the address
>>> book, after
>>> interacting with the table containing them. We made a mistake in
>>> the name
>>> area while creating an entry. It took a long time to figure out how
>>> to tell
>>> OS X that an edit needed to be made and more time to figure out how
>>> to get
>>> VoiceOver to work with and manipulate the edit controls. Starting  
>>> and
>>> stopping interacting with various parts of the window and clicking
>>> options
>>> throughout the menus finally allowed the edit.
>>>
>>> Summary
>>>
>>> The Apple VoiceOver screen-access software does allow blind users to
>>> access most applications that ship with the Macintosh OSX Leopard.
>>> Unfortunately, doing so is extremely keystroke intensive.
>>> Calendaring is
>>> impossible with VoiceOver because nothing is spoken automatically.
>>> The
>>> Interact process is both inconsistent and foreign to screen-access
>>> software
>>> users. It also adds many more keystrokes to an already keystroke-
>>> intensive
>>> screen-reading experience. Browsing the Internet and using Mac help
>>> are two
>>> of the most cumbersome tasks in VoiceOver because VoiceOver does
>>> not begin
>>> to read automatically, and, even after interacting with the HTML
>>> content
>>> area, one must continuously VO+Right Arrow to read even the
>>> shortest text
>>> between links. Last and most important, the training materials
>>> provided for
>>> VoiceOver should be modified. Background in using OSX is not
>>> provided, and
>>> settings that make VoiceOver behave better with applications are not
>>> provided anywhere. Though we liked the fact that the tutorial for
>>> VoiceOver
>>> is tightly integrated into the operating system and easy to invoke,
>>> we wish
>>> it provided more tips on using OS X with VoiceOver as opposed to  
>>> just
>>> highlighting VoiceOver commands and not relating them to the
>>> operating
>>> system. As tasks are undertaken, the screen-access software should
>>> speak
>>> automatically. Examples of this are the newly loaded page in Safari
>>> and
>>> progress messages while the system is working on long tasks.
>>>
>>> Though this report is based on Mac OSX 10.5 Leopard, Apple is set to
>>> release a new operating system called Snow Leopard sometime this
>>> year.
>>> Because VoiceOver is a part of the operating system, changes will
>>> no doubt
>>> be made. We will have to analyze these tasks and the new operating
>>> system,
>>> its features, and any changes to VoiceOver to evaluate their
>>> completion.
>>> Anne Taylor, the National Federation of the Blind Jernigan
>>> Institute's
>>> director of access technology says: "Though we appreciate the fact
>>> that
>>> Apple has included the VoiceOver screen-access software as a part
>>> of the Mac
>>> OS operating system, we cannot at present recommend it as a
>>> productivity
>>> tool for the blind. We cannot recommend any tool, even if it is
>>> free, if it
>>> hampers the productivity of the blind user."
>>>
>>> If you are curious about the Macintosh and want to test drive
>>> VoiceOver in
>>> a store or on a friend or colleague’s Macintosh, here are a few
>>> keystrokes
>>> that might be helpful:
>>>
>>> CMD+F5 starts the VoiceOver screen-access software.
>>> CMD+Option+CTRL+F8 starts a brief VoiceOver tutorial.
>>> Finally, Pressing "VO+F8" (the VO keys are Control and Option)
>>> opens the
>>> VoiceOver Utility to configure and customize the VoiceOver screen-
>>> access
>>> software.
>>>
>>> You can learn more about VoiceOver at
>>> <www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover>. Visit the National
>>> Federation of
>>> the Blind access technology Webpage at <http://www.nfb.org>, then
>>> click
>>> Products and Technology, then Technology Center. If you have further
>>> questions, leave a message on our technology answer line at (410)
>>> 659-9314,
>>> option 5.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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