Re: voices on os x

2009-08-24 Thread william lomas
if braille is in other languages in snowleopard i'd be interested to see if foreign braille is there On 24 Aug 2009, at 20:04, James & Nash wrote: > > The voices from Acapella are great but it's rediculous that Apple keep > avoiding the answer on whether or not they will ever include other >

probably dumb itunes question

2009-08-24 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all, When browsing in the ITunes store, How can one tell whether a track is ITunes Plus or not? I don't want to purchase anything with DRM. Thanks, Donna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVi

Re: probably dumb itunes question

2009-08-24 Thread Marie Howarth
drm is extinct, I believe Donna On Aug 24, 2009, at 8:50 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Hi all, > > When browsing in the ITunes store, How can one tell whether a track is > ITunes Plus or not? I don't want to purchase anything with DRM. > > Thanks, > Donna > > > --~--~-~--~~-

Re: ilife on 10.6?

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Howell
ILife will be on the DVD shipped with your machine. So, if you do not receive Snow Leopard on the machine, you can simply perform an upgrade if you wish once you have SL. On Aug 24, 2009, at 3:17 PM, a radix wrote: > Hello my mac will be here by friday (i ordered just too early for > 10.6

Installing the new cat

2009-08-24 Thread Marie Howarth
I was wondering, as I'm sure everyone's either preordered or is going to pre-order the next big cat, how easy it will be to install with no sighted assistance. would someone maybe be so kind to possibly write a guide. I want to be able to do this but I'm a little apprhensive. obviously nev

Re: readiris pro, does it require vuescan?

2009-08-24 Thread hank smith
does your hp all in 1 have a flat bed scanner as well? if so what model? Hank - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" To: Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 12:34 PM Subject: Re: readiris pro, does it require vuescan? > > Anouk, that is more the function of your scanners driver. Unless

Re: probably dumb itunes question

2009-08-24 Thread Esther
Hi Donna, If you'e browsing the iTunes store for music tracks now, everything is DRM-free. This change-over happened on April 1, 2009 (I know, unfortunate choice of date if you want to be taken seriously), and was received in exchange for allowing the record companies to charge at 3 pric

Re: probably dumb itunes question

2009-08-24 Thread Donna Goodin
Oh, yay!!! Thanks, Marie. Donna On Aug 24, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Marie Howarth wrote: > > drm is extinct, I believe Donna > > On Aug 24, 2009, at 8:50 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> >> Hi all, >> >> When browsing in the ITunes store, How can one tell whether a track >> is >> ITunes Plus or n

trackapd

2009-08-24 Thread william lomas
hi can one buy a bluetooth enabled trackpad i wonder to use the new touchpad features on a macbook or imac that does not have the integrated touchpad? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro

say it's not so apple

2009-08-24 Thread Marie Howarth
one feature I just read they have in snow leopard is voice over will now read the whole website to you. I cannot say I'm happy about this, the one thing about VO I love is it does what I want it too not what it thinks I want it too. ugh. apple why listen to them? sorry, but what do others th

Re: Installing the new cat

2009-08-24 Thread william lomas
when you boot up from the dvd by holding down c at startup as the mac boots, you will hear the drive spin. When it stops spinning press command key f5 and voiceover willc ome up and the first screen, I guess, will b, language chooser WIll On 24 Aug 2009, at 20:59, Marie Howarth wrote: > >

Re: say it's not so apple

2009-08-24 Thread Dan
Hello, From what I've read, you will be able to select the different components of a site to read or scrol through. On Aug 24, 2009, at 1:28 PM, Marie Howarth wrote: > > one feature I just read they have in snow leopard is voice over will > now read the whole website to you. I cannot say I'm h

Some questions was Re: snowleopard shipping friday

2009-08-24 Thread Jenny Kennedy (Howard)
Hi everyone, I will not be able to order the new O/S until 1 September. Will the special price still be in effect? Also how do you go about getting the special price? Just order it or do you have to prove you have Leopard? Thanks ~~~*~~~ Best Wishes- Jenny Kennedy (Howard) Olathe, Kansas

Re: curious observation re Cut command

2009-08-24 Thread Chris Blouch
Can you give some more details? What application were you in, what did you select and how did you select it? CB Donna Goodin wrote: > Hello all, > > I have noticed something that seems odd about the Cut command. It > seems never to function. It doesn't matter whether I use Command-X or >

Re: Installing the new cat

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Chesworth
Hey Marie, Well I guess not many people can say for sure right now what the instalation process will be like in detail, seeing as the only people who will have seen it firsthand so far are beta testers and people who grabbed it off torrent sites, and neither will talk about it publically in case

Re: readiris pro, does it require vuescan?

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Howell
Yes it does, it is the OfficeJet Pro L7650 and it is a printer, scanner, and fax machine. On Aug 24, 2009, at 4:13 PM, hank smith wrote: > > does your hp all in 1 have a flat bed scanner as well? > if so what model? > Hank > - Original Message - > From: "Scott Howell" > To: > Sent: Mo

Re: curious observation re Cut command

2009-08-24 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
The cut command is not available in read-only boxes and lists. The copy command should be available in this case. Also, I don't think cut is available in file browser, because generally a cut item is only in the paste-board once cut, and if you cut something else that file would be lost.

Re: say it's not so apple

2009-08-24 Thread Marie Howarth
OK, here's an exerpt from apple's accessibility page with snow leopard. "VoiceOver will begin reading an entire web page automatically" http://www.apple.com/uk/macosx/accessibility/ On Aug 24, 2009, at 9:35 PM, Dan wrote: > > Hello, > From what I've read, you will be able to select the different

Re: Installing the new cat

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Howell
You don't need a guide at all. In fact all you need to do is insert the DVD and either restart the machine and hold down the letter c until you hear the DVD begin being accessed by the Mac, insert the DVD, open System Preferences, select startup disk, and choose the Snow Leopard DVD, sele

Re: Installing the new cat

2009-08-24 Thread Marie Howarth
thanks for that scott. stupid question maybe, but I'm guessing you put the disc in then shut down then turn on with the disc in the drive, while holding down the c key yes? how much room we talking, I got over a hundred gig here as my music stuff is on an external. :) thanks for any answers.

Re: curious observation re Cut command

2009-08-24 Thread Donna Goodin
Ah, that explains it. thanks, Jonathan. Donna On Aug 24, 2009, at 4:50 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > > The cut command is not available in read-only boxes and lists. The > copy command should be available in this case. Also, I don't think > cut is available in file browser, because generally a

Re: curious observation re Cut command

2009-08-24 Thread Donna Goodin
The one common thread I can find is that I was working with files, rather than selecting text. So, I was selecting them by moving through the file table. Whenever I went into the menu, I was always able to copy the file, and the file I wanted always showed up as being selected. For any

Re: probably dumb itunes question

2009-08-24 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Esther, I think you have a URL for everything! :) Thanks for this update. (yes, the date of the switch is rather unfortunate.) I knew that ITunes was going DRM-free, but thought that it was supposed to take longer. Interesting about the pricing structure. I'm a little surprised, sinc

Re: Some questions was Re: snowleopard shipping friday

2009-08-24 Thread Dan
Hello, $29 and $49 are the prices for single and family. On Aug 24, 2009, at 1:21 PM, Jenny Kennedy (Howard) wrote: > > Hi everyone, > I will not be able to order the new O/S until 1 September. Will the > special price still be in effect? Also how do you go about getting > the special price? Ju

Re: Installing the new cat

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Chesworth
You can start the upgrade the way you just said yep. The other option is to put the disc in, it'll appear in the finder, and there's a file you can launch on there that'll be called something really obvious like "install snow leopard" that will restart and boot from cd for you. Whichever works f

Re: voices on os x

2009-08-24 Thread David Niemeijer
Hi, I notice a lot people are complaining that Apple did not include the voices they now include with the iPhone 3Gs also in Snow Leopard. There may be a lot of reasons why they have not done that. I am not sure it is fair to say it is ridiculous of Apple without knowing the reasons behin

Re: say it's not so apple

2009-08-24 Thread Charlie Doremus
The following is copied directly from the Apple site.Find information fast with auto web spots. Many web pages are filled with complex design elements or lack useful HTML tags, making them difficult to convey through a screen reader. So Apple invented new technologies to comprehend and interpret t

Re: trackapd

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Howell
No, not at this time. On Aug 24, 2009, at 4:24 PM, william lomas wrote: > > hi can one buy a bluetooth enabled trackpad i wonder to use the > new > touchpad features on a macbook or imac that does not have the > integrated touchpad? > > > > --~--~-~--~~~--

Re: Installing the new cat

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Howell
First yes, if you reboot the machine, you of course will need to insert the DVD prior to booting. In fact in order for the Mac to boot off the DVD it needs to be in there in advance for you to hold down the c key or set it as the boot disk. As far as space required, I am not sure of the e

Re: Some questions was Re: snowleopard shipping friday

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Howell
Yes you will and you just have to have Leopard and someone already provided pricing. On Aug 24, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Jenny Kennedy (Howard) wrote: > > Hi everyone, > I will not be able to order the new O/S until 1 September. Will the > special price still be in effect? Also how do you go about g

Re: voices on os x

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Howell
David, I couldn't agree more. There are always going to be features, decisions, or other things folks won't like, but the thing is you have options. So, complaining about it will accomplish nothing and as David pointed out, we dont' know all the reasons why the decision was made not to i

acrobat reader accessible on mac?

2009-08-24 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi all, Is the acrobat reader accessible for reading pdfs? Or do i have to revert to preview for those documents? Thanks, and best --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post t

skype and the chat frame

2009-08-24 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi everyone, I've been using skype on the mac for about a month now, and everything is accessible, or the key paths have been memorized. I have a problem though while chatting. The chat frame doesn't refresh, and i have to close the chat window and reopen it again from the contact list to

Re: say it's not so apple

2009-08-24 Thread Justin Harford
I think it's a preference hopefully. Justin On Aug 24, 2009, at 1:28 PM, Marie Howarth wrote: > > one feature I just read they have in snow leopard is voice over will > now read the whole website to you. I cannot say I'm happy about this, > the one thing about VO I love is it does what I want it

Re: Installing the new cat

2009-08-24 Thread Charlie Doremus
According to two Apple trainers and Leo LaPorte "the tech guy" if is best to do a clean install thus avoiding any future difficulty. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote: > > Hey Marie, > > Well I guess not many people can say for sure right now what the > instalation process

Re: say it's not so apple

2009-08-24 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi, I don't care whether VoiceOver starts reading pages when it loads; a press of Control would stop it if I didn't want it. But I do hope the changes mean that it will be possible to start reading an article and have voiceOver read the whole thing without my having to keep pressing VO-Ri

Re: say it's not so apple

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Howell
This is an option the user can select. The page can be automatically read when loaded, but again, you can disable this behavior if you prefer not to have VOiceOver read the page for you automatically. you, but this is a user selectable option. So, if you don't want to have the page read to

Re: skype and the chat frame

2009-08-24 Thread Chantel Cuddemi
Vo shift function right arrow will fix this. It'll bring you to the end of the chat. On Aug 24, 2009, at 5:46 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I've been using skype on the mac for about a month now, and everything > is accessible, or the key paths have been memorized. I have

soft phones on the mac

2009-08-24 Thread Marie Howarth
anyone know of any soft phones that work on the mac with voice over. I use local phone and they rock and they have a windows and mac softphone, sadly the mac doesn't work, lots of unknowns. any ideas would be great. tried x light. setting up is fine, working no go though. --~--~-~-

Re: acrobat reader accessible on mac?

2009-08-24 Thread James & Nash
Preview is very good, is there a specific reason you want to use Adobe's product. Preview has always been very good in my experience. There is also Skim which also has some advantages but I can't remember what they are at the moment. Take care - Original Message - From: "Yuma Antoine

Re: Installing the new cat

2009-08-24 Thread Chris Blouch
One of Apple's marketing claims is the new OS is actually smaller than the old one, so I'd guess the usual 8GB or so. As with previous upgrades, I suspect you can also just put the DVD in and then open the Installer app which will do little more than change the startup device and reboot your ma

Re: say it's not so apple

2009-08-24 Thread erik burggraaf
There is probably a way to turn that off. At least I hope there is. Best, erik burggraaf A+ sertified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 24-Aug-09, at 4:28 PM, Marie Howarth wrote: > > one feature I just read they have in snow leopard

Re: say it's not so apple

2009-08-24 Thread Marie Howarth
thank God! I really really hope you're right. otherwise apple's gone down in my estimations. On Aug 24, 2009, at 10:28 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > > This is an option the user can select. The page can be automatically > read when loaded, but again, you can disable this behavior if you > prefer

Re: Path finder: A nice replacement to Finder

2009-08-24 Thread VaShaun Jones
Strange, I got four two and I am also finding a bunch of unknowns as well. On Aug 24, 2009, at 7:51 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: > > No. I didn't got any busy messages, but that might be because I have 4 > gb ram in my machine. > Best regards: > Søren Jensen > Mail & MSN: > s...@coolfortheblind.dk >

Re: Path finder: A nice replacement to Finder

2009-08-24 Thread VaShaun Jones
But yes you can cut using it according to the info on the apps website. On Aug 24, 2009, at 10:40 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: > > It's a paid app. If it was free, I would use it all the time. :( > Best regards: > Søren Jensen > Mail & MSN: > s...@coolfortheblind.dk > Website: > http://www.coolfortheb

Re: voices on os x

2009-08-24 Thread James & Nash
David I agree with you and Scott. Apple have done a fantastic job with VO and I have not said otherwise. The quality of the third party voices such as the ones you provide David are much better and yes of course i would rather use those than the voices I've heard on the IPhone. However, the re

Re: soft phones on the mac

2009-08-24 Thread Dane Trethowan
Yes! I was recommended a product called Express Talk at http://www.nch.com.au/talk/be.html and its very accessible, well at least the Mac version is. There are 2 versions available, the "Free" version however will only allow you one VOIP provider and to set it once for your audio input, ou

Re: soft phones on the mac

2009-08-24 Thread Steven M. Sawczyn
Try Express talk available from www.nch.com.au . There are a few quirky things with it, but for the most part, it works well. If your provider supports IAX, check out LoudHush, not positive but I believe their address is loudhush.ro . Again, LoudHush is great, but only works with IAX pr

Re: say it's not so apple

2009-08-24 Thread Esther
Hi, I assume that this feature just means that you can "Read all" on web pages without the interruptions caused by by problematic HTML elements, and just start and stop VoiceOver (by pressing the Control key). One of the alternate web page reading schemes I use is to define a shortcut key f

Re: skype and the chat frame

2009-08-24 Thread Justin Harford
Are you using groups mode? If so, the below suggestion won't work at all. This is a defect with groups mode where it does not work with dynamically changing html. Otherwise, I would add to the suggestion and say that at the top of the chat contents, pressing VO shift cmd left arrow can

Re: say it's not so apple

2009-08-24 Thread Donna Goodin
I'd second that. Cheers, Donna On Aug 24, 2009, at 6:13 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: > > Hi, > > I don't care whether VoiceOver starts reading pages when it loads; a > press of Control would stop it if I didn't want it. But I do hope the > changes mean that it will be possible to start reading a

iPhone and syncronization

2009-08-24 Thread Christian
Hi all, Maybe someone on this list is able to help. I have been trying to syncronize the iPhone with my contacts on my computer but no luck. I have selected in the info tab of iTunes to syncronize contact and to syncronize it with Outlook. iTunes says that it's syncronizing the contacts with my

Re: Installing the new cat

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Howell
I'd agree that a clean install is best, but some folks may not have the facilities to do this. I mean this in that to do this right, I'd use an external drive and clone the existing scenarioMacintosh Hd, do a fresh install, and then migrate my stuff over. Now you of course could migrate

Bug with VoiceOver and voice memos

2009-08-24 Thread Christian
Hi all, For those of you who have the iPhone with MMS support I have found a way to have VOiceOver to stop speaking. Try the following and see if you are able to duplicate it: First, record a voice memo for about a minute or so. Then, stop the recording and select to show recordings. Select the v

Re: say it's not so apple

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Howell
You don't have to hope I'm right. On Aug 24, 2009, at 6:24 PM, Marie Howarth wrote: > > thank God! I really really hope you're right. otherwise apple's gone > down in my estimations. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to t

Fwd: Snow Leopard system requirements

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Howell
Folks, although this is an announcement of Snow Leopard, if you read this article, it will provide some interesting links about installing Snow Leopard. I think most of these articles will be pretty accurate since these guys have some very good sources. In any event, this may answer some

Re: say it's not so apple

2009-08-24 Thread Mike Arrigo
Just because the feature is there, doesn't mean you have to use it. There will probably be an option for whether or not to automatically read the entire page, or you could just press v o a On Aug 24, 2009, at 3:28 PM, Marie Howarth wrote: > > one feature I just read they have in snow leopard

Re: voices on os x

2009-08-24 Thread Mike Arrigo
The voices on the iphone are provided by Nuance. That engine is called nuance vocalizer. Those voices are available for windows desktops and that engine is called nuance realspeak. I actually wish these voices were available for the mac, though I would not expect apple to include them. But

Re: A tip for those using Apple Mail

2009-08-24 Thread Cara Quinn
Thanks Dane, for posting this; if I may, I'd like to also add that one can view Mail's activity at any time as well, by VO down arrowing twice from the mailboxes table. when Mail is idle, there will just be the 'Mail Activity' title, but when there's activity to be seen, you can VO rig

RE: snowleopard shipping friday

2009-08-24 Thread Les Kriegler
appen that quickly? What has Apple's history been related to price reductions? Thanks. Les __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4364 (20090824) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http

[Mac-cessibility News] Apple Publishes More Information on Snow Leopard's Universal Access Features

2009-08-24 Thread Maccessibility
Apple Publishes More Information on Snow Leopard's Universal Access Features On the heels of the announcement that Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard will ship this Friday, Apple has provided more details regarding VoiceOver improvements in the new OS on a new Snow Leopard Universal Access page. In addit

readIris and twain-sane?

2009-08-24 Thread John J Herzog
Hi all, Does anybody know how well readIris works with twain-sane? I have a fujitsu scanner with a great document feeder that I would really like to use with the mac. The scanner seems to work well with twain-sane, which is an open source project to emulate scanner drivers for the mac. My

Re: say it's not so apple

2009-08-24 Thread rayna424
Wow, yeah I seriously doubt that Apple would force us to use something. This reminds me of having the option of doing group or dom mode. It'll probably be a setting in the internet area. But, this is why I'm going to wait to by SL until I see what others say. I'm terrified of it working totally di

RE: Installing the new cat

2009-08-24 Thread Les Kriegler
e. I want to be able to do this but I'm a little apprhensive. > obviously never installed an OS before. a little daunting to say the > least. > :) > > > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4364 (20090824) _

Question about reading this group on web only

2009-08-24 Thread rayna424
Hi all, I choose to read this board on the web only, so my email isn't clogged, and because I don't read every topic. It becomes difficult to find a topic I've posted in, because it doesn't seem to keep messages on top in accordance to replies. I tried "clicking the star to watch topic", hoping i

New Os or not?

2009-08-24 Thread Mike
Hi all: I'm going to get Snow Leopard but I have a concern. Is it an Upgrade which has to be installed over a previous version of Leopard or can it be ran as a complete fresh install. I don't like the idea of installing another OS over another. It can be problematic and that sounds vary much like

weather widget?

2009-08-24 Thread Joe Quinn
anyone using a weather widget for OSX 10.5? i know one exists but am not sure what it's called, nor where to get it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send

Re: New Os or not?

2009-08-24 Thread Josh de Lioncourt
My guess, based on the Leopard install, is that regardless, you should be able to have a fresh install if you choose. It'll just archive your old Leopard installation and let you start fresh. You can then delete the archived OS if you wish. I do not know this for certain, it is only a gue

Re: weather widget?

2009-08-24 Thread Mark Baxter
I've used it on occasion, it's temperamental but it can be done. It's called ... wait for it ... wait for it ... Weather. :) Mark BurningHawk Baxter Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ --~--~-~--~~-

Re: New Os or not?

2009-08-24 Thread rayna424
I too, am nervous. Especially since VO is my first screenreader, and it took awhile to learn it. I never buy tech toys when they're brand new; I usually wait to see what others think. I think I'll do this with SL too, just to kind of have some info before I take the plunge. It was discussed earlie

[Mac-cessibility News] RogueAmoeba Posts Snow Leopard Compatibility Details

2009-08-24 Thread Maccessibility
RogueAmoeba Posts Snow Leopard Compatibility Details Today, RogueAmoeba posted a blog entry regarding the compatibility of several of their products which are extremely popular among VoiceOver users. Airfoil, Audio Hijack Pro, and Nicecast all require updates to the optional Instant Hijack compon

Re: New Os or not?

2009-08-24 Thread Mike Arrigo
You can choose to completely erase your drive before installing. Unlike Microsoft which insists on complicating things by having completely separate disks for upgrades or full installs, as far as I know, apple's operating system disks are all the same. On Aug 24, 2009, at 8:40 PM, Mike wrote

Re: say it's not so apple

2009-08-24 Thread william lomas
it will all be customizable i think Again i will wait a few months before upgrading what I havenow is working fine On 25 Aug 2009, at 01:06, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > Just because the feature is there, doesn't mean you have to use it. > There will probably be an option for whether or not to autom

Re: voices on os x

2009-08-24 Thread william lomas
hi all i just hope then that voices from i vox are now available for previously unsupported languages like japanese, chinese, etc On 24 Aug 2009, at 23:39, James & Nash wrote: > > David I agree with you and Scott. Apple have done a fantastic job > with VO > and I have not said otherwise. Th

Trouble printing entire address from Addressbook

2009-08-24 Thread Simon Cavendish
Hello, I've noticed that, when printing an address on an envelope from Addressbook, not all lines of the address get printed. For isntance, although a card contains for example the name of the department in a company, the department line doesn't get printed. Similarly, if a card contains

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