Hi, I assume that this feature just means that you can "Read all" on web pages without the interruptions caused by by problematic HTML elements, and just start and stop VoiceOver (by pressing the Control key).
One of the alternate web page reading schemes I use is to define a shortcut key for "New Window Containing Selection". This is the Services menu option for sending whatever you've selected to a TextEdit window, so if you are at a web page in Safari and press Command-A to select all, followed by whatever shortcut key sequence you assigned to "New Window Containing Selection", a TextEdit window will pop up with the contents and VoiceOver will start reading immediately from TextEdit. Of course, there are no problems with problematic HTML elements in TextEdit, and you can use Find, etc., start and stop VoiceOver, navigate to different portions of the document, etc. since TextEdit is very robust. You can also read special characters and characters from non-Roman alphabets in TextEdit, which is a boon if you want multi-lingual control. This does not put a big load on system resources, since the Services menu redirects the output. Using an assigned shortcut for "New Window Containing Selection" is much simpler and faster than performing the following steps (after doing the "Select All" with Command-A): 1. VO-M to menu bar 2. Right arrow to App menu 3. Arrow down and press "S" to go to Services 4. Right arrow to Services submenu 5. Up arrow to TextEdit 6. Right arrow to TextEdit submenu entry for "New Window Containing Selection" 7. Press enter to send selection to TextEdit If you want to try this, you'll need to go to the Keyboard Shortcuts Tab of the Keyboard & Mouse Menu under System Preferences, and follow these instructions to assign a shortcut • Navigate (VO-Right Arrow) past the table of shortcuts on the "Keyboard Shortcuts" tab to the button for adding shortcuts and press (VO-Space) • In the Dialog window, VO-Right arrow past the pop up button for Application, which should be set to "All Applications", and go to the text edit field after "Menu Title" • Type (or paste in): "New Window Containing Selection" without the quote marks • VO-Right Arrow to the Keyboard Shortcut field and type in your shortcut • Press return or navigate to the "Add" button and press it (VO-Space) • You'll be returned to the Keyboard Shortcuts tab window. Command-W to close the window Shortcuts on the Mac are read from application preference files when applications are opened. When you close each app, the current preferences are re-written from temporary storage. So shortcuts must be assigned when applications are closed, or they will be over-written when you exit the app. For system-wide apps, you need to reboot the system to have the shortcut take effect. You might want to use one of the extended F keys on a full keyboard in combination with Command or Option or Shift. The biggest issue with assigning system-wide shortcuts is the possibility of overwriting an existing shortcut that you eventually want to use. Incidentally, if your TextEdit window is set up for Rich Text Format, you can even click (VO-Shift-Space) on links in the text from the web page (if you know where they are from context), and have Safari open up at the linked page you clicked in TextEdit. Some things may not work -- if they didn't code the full path name in the link, or if the link is to a javascript, for example. I've posted about this before, but for some reason this shortcut never caught interest on this list. Cheers, Esther Woody Anna Dresner wrote: > >Hi, > >I don't care whether VoiceOver starts reading pages when it loads; a >press of Control would stop it if I didn't want it. But I do hope the >changes mean that it will be possible to start reading an article and >have voiceOver read the whole thing without my having to keep pressing >VO-Right or Numpad Right Arrow. That would be a wonderful change IMO. > >Best, >Anna > > >> > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---